A little known fact is dx was essentially created as a way to appease hbk. He wanted to go to wcw to hang out with his friends. So Vince let him start his own stable with his best friend.
His life may have turned out very bad. Shawn getting injured in the WWF and taking the 4 years away from wrestling help him turn his life around. If that does happen, I think he ends up on a darker path. Most likely, he would have ended up another wrestler who died too young from their demons.
Yeah he might have been able to do what Ric Flair was doing have 15 minute+ matches, however I think he would have been like Scott Hall and it's possible he would have died knowing some of the substance abuse problems he had.
I'm glad Shawn stayed at WWF. With that said everything about him fitted WCW during that time, his attitude, his promos, even the fact that he used a real name (not his own buy still) rather than a tag name. I don't think he would've been buried by Hogan either because if Shawn can control Vince to a certain extent, he can defo get his way with Eric (especially with Hall and Nash there too).
I know know it wasn't him but I could have sworn there was a guy in between from when Rockers were fired and they went back to The AWA and then returned to WWE,somewhere in that time there was a guy in WCW it might have been when it turned over from Jim Crockett that looked just like him. He was there only like a week or 2.
You know... I feel like you're right. Shawn said that Vince told him that he "wouldn't have as much creative control." I don't believe that for a second. They would've, if even for a short time, let him control his own angles. He was a big enough star. Hall & Nash controlled their stuff.
That would only work if he went to WCW at the same time Nash and Hall did. Sean Waltman follow them afterwards and did not see the same result. Sure he gets the freedom to do whatever he wants with his character and he got a good paycheck out of it but in the end if he couldn't even make a return or show potential to compete then he's out the door and that's exactly what happen. HBK would fare better had he left with Hall and Nash cause after that he was involve in career ending matches like the Hell in the Cell he had with Undertaker. HBK going to WCW after that wouldn't help him much in WCW if he did decided to go around that time in 1997-1999. The injury he sustain in WWF will hamper him in WCW and it would be like Sean Waltman situation all over again.
Vince had a big man crush on HBK he wasn't go to let him go to WCW he spoiled the shit out of Shawn and let him get away with so much even when Shawn was doing drugs and other stuff
The two superstars Vince McMahon didn't want to lose to WCW were Shawn Michaels and Owen Hart. Both are similar in that in Shawn's case his friends were in WCW but not him and in Owen's case the entire Hart Foundation left for WCW but Owen remains in the WWF.
Bischoff says he would not know what to do with him but KEVIN SULLVAN literally stated he would have let him DO WATEVER HE WANTED and give him control in his matches. To just think the dream matches. Super easy way to book him. Comes in pretending to reunite with hall/nash but turns super kicks both of them and blames his hatred for hogan for it. STREET FIGHT REMATCH hello IN UR HOUSE against NASH. ladder match #3 against scott hall Then the match that never happened in wwe SHAWN VS MACHO MAN. Ric flair makes him a horseman. Shawn vs curt hennig To lead to shawn vs hogan SHAWN was money.. Vince knew it. Nash gained power. Only issue might have been hogan. Otherwise i saw all other matches working
Everything you mentioned is why 1997 was the best year of WWE in my opinion. Thats the year the WWF turned it around. The attitude era really kicked off right about summerslam 97. And then he just went out of control in the ring with DX. Not to mention when at one house shows Shawn was said to have caused a riot by refusing to come out and perform. To your point the creative control you mentioned you believe shawn would have got in WcW, yeah he probably would have got it if he left in 96. But by 97 despite the success of NWO, Bischoff said he was getting pressured by turner execs about all those contracts and couldnt do stuff like that anymore (which is why Rick Rude was so mad because Eric couldnt pay back the Loyds of London insurance policy so Rick could make his in ring return). So to me its unlikely he would have got endless zeros on his contract and creative control both. Besides, Hogans creative control overruled everyone elses, and you know Michaels would have wanted a match against Hogan. Just like what eventually happened years later, Hogan would beat Shawn, but when it came time for Hogan to do the same for Shawn, you know Hulk would say: "That doesnt work for me brother". Besides, Shawn would want to have great matches and I believe would get frustraited with all the laziness of the then main event talent WcW had. Those guys just wanted to get paid and go home. They didnt give a shit about putting on a great show (as Kevin Nash has said in MANY shoot interviews). Plus too many top guys in WCW would have fought to keep shawn midcard, just like they tried to do with Bret in order to protect their "spot".
If they let him go, WWE still beats WCW. My opinion of what would've happened: WCW - Sting beats Hogan clean - NWO the next night on Nitro kicks out Hogan - Nash becomes the leader with Shawn being introduced as the new NWO member - Hogan becomes Red & Yellow again - Goldberg beats Shawn in Atlanta - Nash still beats the streak WWF Pretty much stays the same, but I doubt Owen becomes the Blue Blazer. A Bret/Jericho feud would've been money.
The thing is they were never there all at the same time. Shawn Michaels is clearly WWE exclusive, his friends however are all over the place with Triple H being the only one that remains with Shawn in WWF until his return in 2002. Also it makes sense why Hall and Nash were in WCW, they were in WCW before they came to the WWF so to return to a company they are very familiar helps them a lot. I'll be honest though if HBK didi jump ship to WCW around the late 90s, Triple H may likely follow as well since he was previously from there.
Oh wow never found it far-fetched if you really get to sit back and look at the situation entirely I mean Hunter came from wcw diesel razor & kid left for wcw so it would've been only right & only fitting for him to wanna go jump ship right
Uh uh, Shawn was never in WCW. You're wrong, you must be thinking of Kevin Nash. He was Diesel, you know, and was Shawn's "bodyguard" in WWF. You should research this stuff first because there's people on here who will just tell you you're wrong and write an explanation of how you're long that's way too long and gets off subject, and the next thing you know....Hulk Hogan was also in both WWF and WCW.
@@codyhinnant7904 Shawn would had been fired by Bischoff just like Waltman. Remember HBK is still recovering from a back injury he had with the Undertaker from their Hell in a Cell match in 1997. Even though he still compete up til the moment he lose the title, his injury got the best of him and put him out of action for nearly 4 years. If he did go to WCW around the time of 1997 - 1999, he would had gotten fired by Bischoff on the spot or face a career ending situation like Bret did when he fought Goldberg and got botched kick in the face causing his life long concussion.
It's not 'the WCW' otherwise you are saying 'the World Championship Wrestling. The phrase does not scan as a correct sentence. You cannot use 'the WWF' and 'the WCW' as a comparison, just 'WCW' is sufficient.
@@histochronos as did Bret Hart, and we can all agree that WCW missed a golden opportunity with Bret. Before you knew it he was just another part of the NWO, and in Hogan's shadow. HBK would've gone through the same shit.
There is no way in hell Michaels would have been happy creatively in WCW if he wanted to be a "top guy". I know Michaels was a huge star but no one his size was ever pushed as the guy. Guys like Jericho, Guerrero and Benoit all had to come to the WWE to utilize their talent to it's full potential. I know Benoit won the World title before he came to the WWE but that was clearly a ploy to get him to stay.
I'm still, till this day, convinced 100%, that Shawn Micheals was intended to be the original 3rd man, at Bash at the Beach '96! It's pretty obvious that Bischoff wanted the clique to be the NWO. He had damn near all of them, except HHH & Shawn Micheals. So Micheals confirming that he considered jumping, doesn't surprise me, but rather confirms my long held suspicions. It's pretty well known by now, that Hogan was not the original choice for the 3rd man. He was only considered, when the bookers were completely out of options. I definitely believe that Shawn was the original choice. Good luck ever getting Bischoff to admit to this, though, LMAO!!
Not really...Shawn was the WWF Champion at the time Hall & Nash showed up in WCW so why would anybody have expected Shawn to show up as the 3rd man? If anybody from WWF was expected to be a possibility it would have been Bret Hart as he was off WWF TV at that point...but like has been said by somebody else, the 3rd man was going to be Sting if Hogan turned it down
It was Bret the original idea to be the 3rd man, but he re-signed with the WWF, so he had to go with Hogan. It turned out to be a marvelous move, though!
Wouldn't make a difference in WCW, in the end Shawn Michaels would had still return to WWF in 2002 as an nWo member anyways. The only difference this time is that Bret will definitely be there.
@@misawa8629 Possibly...im not sure if the Mr McMahon character's birth solely rested on what happened at Survivor Series 1997. Vince left commentary before Survivor Series so his character could possibly have still emerged if the Bret thing did not happen, the seeds of Austin Vs McMahon were already growing in 1997 and McMahon being the owner on the WWF was still being alluded to on screen and before the Screwjob
Voan Siam that would be interesting because Shawn and Bret would have likely had a final wrestlemania match probably at wrestlemania 18 Which was in Canada! Could you imagine that 😮
Hogan was deserving of being the top heel and part face of the company from 1996-1999. the nWo was a huge fucking success ...If it was a flop and still being forced anyway then you could say something but Hogan as champ, leader of the nWo that lit the wrestling world on fire. It was more than 3x's bigger than The Shield .. Hogan still had it. And that's my favorite version of Hogan the late 90's nWo
No it makes sense that shawn wouldn't like wcw, look at the booking of wcw, every match they did had some kind of a run in interference, and we know how much shawn hates giving up his titles u think that would change because hulk hogan said so? Fat chance.
SIJW SHAWN MICHAELS WAS NEVER IN WCW AND YOU DON’T KNOW WHAT YOU’RE TALKING ABOUT!!!! Is what someone who didn’t watch the video would say 😂 great vid as always!
I've had dreams that Shawn Michaels was WCW Champion during the Monday Night War era. I also had dreams that Booker T competed in TNA (before that time) and he _unlocked his dreads and silked his hair out_ :P
When I grew up watching wrestling, I refused to watch WCW. I had to be one of the only kids who loved HBK more than any other wrestler in 1996. HBK and Austin are by far by two favorite all-time wrestlers.
SIJW: Did you know Shawn Michaels wanted to wrestle for wow? Me: YES!!! Because I'm a smarky smark now talk about this subject that I have already heard about multiple times and add your unique takes in a pseudo booking scenario yes entertain me
*Vince lied to Bret cause he told him, he didn't have enough money to honor his contract to him while making the company public and making millions leading to the Montreal Screw Job and Bret Hart signing on with wcw*
Idk I feel like Shawn knew wcw would eventually crumble we can say that freely knowing it did now but even back then you can’t give every guy millions of dollars and still make money I mean wcw paid everyone way too much to be profitable and I think hbk knew that if he went there he would be white hot for a few years where as if he stayed loyal with wwe he could have a long career also Shawn has said he did wanna go but that Vince gave him everything he has and the life he has and that he ultimately made the decision to stay loyal to Vince knowing that at that time he was the guy the only thing stopping wcw from putting wwe out of business besides the undertaker but let’s be real without hbk and taker wwe would have went out of business before stone cold and the rock even existed I mean 1995 and 1996 before stone cold in late 96 well him and taker were the rock standing between wcw and owning the market
hey shawn was never in wcw... kidding. i liked this video. honestly i would love to see what would have happened if he had went to wcw. meaning we never get dx really. and wwf losing them would of been a huge blow. but again they had austin, taker, rock among others. i would of loved to see how this all would play out.
Danga Langman WCW died because Ted Turner lost controlling interest in his company when he merged with AOL. They wanted nothing to do with wresting. Shawn Michaels wouldn’t have changed that.
How do you guys know any of that would have happened? Him joining coulda changed the whole future of the company up. They might not have ever needed to hire Russo nor would Ted have wanted to sell the company.
@Jacques Malan Smarkass :p but you right. I been rewatching 98-99 WWF and watching The Rock go from being booed to getting major ass pop within like a week or two was insane. Dude got over quick af. And the Austin vs McMahon shit is just stupid good. I'ma just a dubyaceedubya fanboy yo. Always have been always will be.
IDT he went because of how they treated Syxx/X- PAC(Kliq).... Also Hollywood was running the show... No show stopping was happening in WCW... I'm not Shawn Michaels fan but I did and do respect the body of work put in... He still an ass tho! (4ever HART)
WCW is where his wife worked as a Nitro Girl. And yes if Eric Bischoff would have gotten the whole kliq WCW would have won the war but (as a WCW fan I'm glad he did not) because HBK would have never got his life together and would never have became a Christian.
There's plenty of validity to what Vince said because Hogan was running the asylum and he would have NEVER put Michaels over. Put over one of the Rockers, brother?!
Bro can you imagine the fucking pop though if Shawn Micheals would have came into WCW and right into NWO shortly after Hulk Hogan. Talk about losing your mind twice.
Shawn was deliberately trying to get fired so he could jump to wcw with his friends so of course vince would not let him go if vince had let shawn go to wcw that might have been just the edge wcw needed to get over on the wwf it could have changed alot but vince aint stupid shawn was going nowhere also FYI vinces hand shakes dont mean shit just ask Bret.
Ok If Shawn Michaels would of went to world championship wrestling WCW . Shawn and stone cold wouldn’t face each other at wrestlemania 14 that’s my mind opinion.
I don't think Triple H had any heat with The Rock since he and Rock both came to the WWF around the same time. HBK; however, clearly did had heat with the Rock though. When WWF attempt to make a star out of Rock, that's when HBK took himself out of the picture. He's not willing to work with someone who is influence by Bret Hart at the time.
Always entertaining sir never stop what what you doing when I was in my twenties I was a big fan of HBK now that I'm in my 40s I realize what a douchebag he's been all along
I don't understand why everybody talks about Bret Hart like he was in the same category as everybody else... I think the powers that be wanted him to be in that category but I don't think the world likes him nearly as much as they like Hulk Hogan or Kevin Nash or Scott Hall or Shawn Michaels or a lot of guys really... I think Bret Hart got buy more on his name than anything else...
Which is why he didn't do well in the WCW, that had a more realistic feel to it... Nobody was going to believe the pink and black guy was going to be beating up a bunch of tough guys who seemed normal.
SHAWN MICHAELS WAS NEVER IN WCW AND YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT! unliked, unsubbed, unfollowed blocked, and reported. Lol in all seriousness, that was quite a video
@@TheeKingRayzor LaToya Wrestleology well, I'm guessing you didn't watch, or at least the part at 10:59, or you would see I was referring to that part of the video with my comment, and that my comment was a joke...
