Shawn Ray Slams Phil Heath & Defends Mr Olympia 

What an amazing interview. Shawn actually wrote back to my best friend in 1989 after he sent him a fan letter. It wasn’t just a quick note, either... he wrote my buddy a two page response. I’ve respected Shawn ever since.

Love him or hate him, but you cannot deny that Shaw is Not a Coward. I respect Him

Shawn's dead on in saying EVERYBODYS lucky Dexter isn't 10 years younger .

Didn’t hear Shawn “slam” Phil. Nor did he seem to be “defending” Olympia. The man was just talking from an educated perspective. Respect to Shawn.

people sometimes forget, this man was one of the best bodybuilders ever

I cant see flaws in Shawn throughout the interview. He knows exactly what he wants to say and control the interview that Patrick has a hard time to take over. One of the best intense interviews!

The reason a lot of bodybuilders didn't like Shawn Ray is evident by how their lives turned out... Most of them only realised too late that he was right in his argument... Very smart man... Articulate and authentic...

“Healthy, Wealthy and Well-Traveled”. A quote I intend to live by.

My god the interviewer trying to pull an arguement every five minutes

Shawn has courage to tell the truth, and he does NOT "SLAM" Phil Heath, if you watch the entire interview he esteems Phil. I gained serious respect for Phil from Shawn.

Not sure why his nickname is "Sugar" since he never sugar coats anything! He tells it like he sees it............have to admire that quality.

How did he get those sunglasses off Shawn 🤔😆

Insanely interesting personality could watch days of his interviews, doesn’t care just says what he believes. And one of the most pleasing physiques to grace the stage. Salutes to you my boi

It seems like the guy just wants to argue with Shawn. But Shawn's answers all seem reasonable to me.

I hate it when interviewers think it makes them seem more important or thoughtful if they are holding a pen in their hands.

This was a very intense interview, very impressed by this. Hat's off to you Patrick on another awesome video !!

No man ever takes another man's girlfriend. The girlfriend simply chooses another man. Take the L, Man-Up and go find another girlfriend. Love Shawn's take on that.

Best bodybuilding interview yet! Shawn will always be the guy nobody wants to listen to but everyone should. Always speaks with 100% sense and clarity, absolute legend

Anyone who hates Shawn is insecure and overly sensitive. This guy is a successful and proud guy. Respect to him!

Shawn Ray and Flex Wheeler had almost flawless physiques. The mass monsters were just in Vogue at the time.

This guy is as real as it gets. We need more people like this.

I don’t think he slams Phil Heath How about “Shawn Ray his honest opinion “

I cant believe I watched 2 hours and was never bored. This interview was epic

Patrick lowkey can't handle the interview 😂. Shawn knows where he stands while patrick just annoyed by his smart answers he starts cutting him off. Lmaoooo

Shawn Ray is always on the money when he speaks. Incredible physique too. 90's era of bodybuilding was just unbelievable.

The sport of bodybuilding needs more people like Shawn Ray who says it like it is and does not sugar coat anything 🇺🇸 👍

Shawn is 100% right about the pay having to go beyond the top 10. It's a joke that Pro Athletes who have to actually PAY an entrance fee to enter competitions, PAY yearly to renew their IFBB memberships, and PAY for everything involved including travel & hotel expense, not to mention the enormous cost of getting ready for these events. Promoters are charging big money for spectators to attend.... This reminds me of the way NCAA treat their players while generating a fortune. If you want to compare this to Capitalism, if feels a bit more like Apple setting shop in Asia employing Child Labour. Great show as always Patrick!!!

Shawn is 54 years old. He looks a bit younger!

Thank you Patrick for these interviews! I went to an amateur bodybuilding contest in Minneapolis in 1991 and I was hooked! I was already training, but now got serious. I wanted to train to compete! Then I blew my shoulder out and I was done. Now I'm 51 years old and consciously put the "gym intensity" into my relationship with God and my family...and I'm blessed! Now, hopefully you can interview the Lee's...Haney & Lebrada...my favorites.

Most epic and informative 2 hours bodybuilding interview! Much respect for Shawn Ray! Beautiful personality.

Been waiting for the full interview. All the clips have been teasing me.

Patrick asks a question: Some bodybuilding legends: look man...situation is...you know how it works... Some others: nah man, he is cool, they are really good...it's fine, times change... ... *(no)Sugar(coating) Shawn Ray: These guys wouldn't make top10 back in the day! This other guy is literally accountable for many pros living with 1 kidney...we are not friends and never were!* I love the honesty of Shawn, I think he's a great guy. An asshole in a sense, but this overly PC world needs intelligent assholes like him!

I've always liked Shawn Ray. He does seem arrogant at times, but I think he deserves respect.

Shawn seems like a pretty genuine knowledgeable guy. There is difference between cocky and confident. Shawn is confident in the sport and what he knows about the sport. And it shows.

the interview started out ok - but then the host wanted to debate Shawn as if he knew more than Shawn.. com'on man show some respect for your guest next time - people want to watch an interview not a freaking debate.

You’re not top 1%, you’re not the top 1% of 1%, you’re the top 1% of 1% of 1% the-one-of-a-kind.

Something I feel about Shawn is he's so professional he the only guy that act as if bodybuilding mainstream. He can carry himself and the sport very well.

The best bodybuilding interview I've seen on your show so far. Shawn has a lot of personality and does not hold back.

Shawn was A major inspiration to me as a smaller weightlifter. Always in shape, always beautiful to look at, and smart. Good for him for calling out all the political BS. A giant killer and should have been a once or twice Olympia.

Shawn can hold his own in any discusion. But Lee Priest is not running from anything. He is just being Lee and i love it!

This was by far the best bodybuilding interview on this channel so far. Good enough to consider contacting Shawn as a guest on a regular basis. He's always well-spoken, honest and provocative enough to not let the conversation get stale. I agree with Patrick in a sense that Olympia should do more as a brand but Ray is good at pointing out that there should be some more "meat" behind that argument so that it would not dilute into cheap populism. As Branch Warren, another famous bodybuilder once said - nobody owes you a God damned thing. So maybe both the bodybuilders and the Olympia should listen to the "be so good and present that they can't ignore you even if they wanted to" philosophy. I think that's what helped Shawn in his career as a competitor and an analyst. Olympia should maybe consider having their own channel with dedicated podcasts, talking to current and former champions, possible challengers and updating us on a regular basis about who is qualified through interviews and reviews. Maybe even have a sweet video round table with notable bodybuilders to preview and conclude the event. Also it should lean more heavily on its "crown jewel" characteristic. Mr. Olympia is THE bodybuilding competition, the world cup - if any brand has the clout, integrity and authority to speak about current bodybuilding events and cover exciting news in the sport...well maybe it's "the event"... Solomon already had a great internet radio-show with Chic and if I'm not mistaken they were able to talk with all the Mr.Olympia champions throughout their seasons on air. It's a sport that is entering this digital era in a sluggish manner. And if there's a banner to rally around and speed the process up - it's the Olympia banner. They don't have to be spectacular from the start - but start is what they have to do.

Always knew this would be the greatest bodybuilder interview ever. No one is as candid as The Stingray. Plus let's face it...No bodybuilder is this articulate and accomplished at the same time. Loved every minute of it.

Something is slightly off with the audio Mario. it's making patrick sound like a robot

Great interview/conversation. I love how these two completely disagree but can still civilly make their points. I also love how they both are willing to listen to each other. Love to both guys.

All things considered. ALL. THINGS. CONSIDERED. Shawn Ray is bodybuilding. He has worn every hat and worn it at the highest levels. Competitor, agitator, businessman, promoter, media, commentator, emcee, etc.

Would love to see Kevin Levrone soon. As he is the only legend from the 90's thats not been on the show. But still the best interview was that of Shadow and Ronnie

shawn ray back in the 90s would wipe the floor at the Mr O today, no doubt about that. he had a beautiful aesthetic physique, better than todays fuglies.

Awesome stuff Pat your interviews are always wonderful. The sound though is not as good as other videos..

This was genuinely interesting to watch. Always appreciated Shawn speaking his mind. Great bodybuilder and one of my favourites from the older generation.

Shawn is very authentic and well spoken... he was absolutely right to call out Chad Nichols and anybody who disagrees with him doing so, doesn't really care about the competitors in the sport....

To be really authentic and true to ones self, you have to make peace with not being liked by everyone.

I like Shawn now. I didn't dislike him before, but I like and and definitely respect him more now.

Love him or hate him, Shawn is one of the smartest guys in body building and to be honest, I agree with most of what he says...

This guy is trying to create an argument out of everything Shaun Ray says.

Shawn ray is a class act he just wants everyone who competes to eat & get paid decent money 400 grand to the winner zero to the the lasts places it’s a disgrace Shawn is right

Headphones in, the sound is not right. Just an FYI

I cannot wait to hear this interview. Shawn Ray is one of the best that never won the Mr O. He is also one of the best posers ever too. You cannot see a great posing routing without watching at least watching a Shawn Ray clip.

I cant remember the last time i sat down to watch a whole interview for 2hrs! purely entertaining and very informative! u gotta love shawn, love these interviews would love to see arnold, haney, jay and def big ramy!

Now THAT'S an interview worth watching and I watched all 2 hours, 9 minutes and 22 seconds. I could have easily watched 3 hours or more of content with you and Shawn. Well done. 💪 😎👍

Wow. I fallowed Ray's entire career, I had a entire misconception of him. He is an advocate and a voice for bodybuilding. A very amazing man.

Love him or hate him Shawn is an intelligent man who doesn't take any bullshit. Literally tells it like it is regardless if you're his friend or worst enemy. Respect for Shawn Ray.

1:06:00 Interviewer blowing his own horn again. Every interview this happens

I actually met Shawn Ray at the airport once, and he was the nicest guy ever!

Shawn speaks well and he is right. To me, Shawn had one of the best most symmetrical physiques

Kevin levrone,shown ray,flex wheeler. the legends the mhyts

1:08:53, Shawn Ray is dead ass correct about the Brand and Phil Heath. The Interviewer is not only wrong, he is acting like an emotional women who cannot accept the man's opinion on the subject. Let it go, Cupcake.

Shawn is more relevant to bodybuilding retired than 99% of current competitors!!

Great interview. I love the segment where he talks about his father. Shawn's story reminds me of Barry Sanders talking about how HE didn't want to work for his father's roofing company.

Shawn is very articulate. No stammering. No loss of words. Highy intelligent. He's a class act and an advocate for fairness and support of the athletes in his sport. The Weiders had a good influence on him. As other people have noted, Pat, usually great with his comments, questions and analysis, is rather contentious and, to be honest, heartless in this interview. Shawn stays very calm and holds his own. At TIME 1:04:30, Pat is totally trying to bully and insult Shawn. Shawn stays cool. Never seen Pat like this. He clearly doesn't like Shawn Ray becasue Ray isn't rolling over to Pat's display of male dominance.

Straight forward voice no sugar coating

When I was younger I used to HATE this man no matter what he was saying because more often than not he was speaking against my favorite bodybuilder....how ignorant I was 🤦🏾‍♂️ because Shawn literally EMBODIES what speaking out against bullshit really means 💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾 his approach may be repulsive at times but you have to admit he knows exactly wtf he's talking about 🧘🏾‍♂️

So where did Shawn slam Phil? I've only heard positive words from Shawn throughout the whole video, and yes, I watched the whole video. Sure, he may have criticized him here and there, but it was constructive, it was true, and he did so with other bodybuilders as well. I hope it's not click bait because you're ruining people's initial image for Shawn, especially knowing Shawn's already existing not-like-able image.

My only issue with these recent interviews is that it’s pretty clear the host has little insight into the core aspects of bodybuilding. I don’t see how he can attempt to debate Shawn. This is more of an interview with the host’s attempts of interjection. When he gets backed into a corner, he’ll bring up sports he knows about. Bodybuilding is unlike any other sport, so the parallels are not as clear as the host might think.

I actually love how Shawn put Samir in his personal 'top 5' best bodybuilders of all time. I gained so much respect for Shawn after this interview.

The most incredible interview I ever seen in bodybuilding.. so realistic.

Best statement he said was "These guys are lucky Dexter is not 10 years younger" that is a FACT!! He would be up there with Ronnie or Haney.

Hope he interviews Lee Priest next.

Shawn Ray is the sole reason I started taking working out serious. Similar height and everything. Thanks man

Philip: you are quick to forget that you were calling out judges... Shawn: and I never missed a contest in 32 years. SLAM DUNK!

Shawn ray was probably more honest to himself than other bodybuilders.🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️

This interview was a massive eye opener on this sport and the industry as a whole, thanks Patrick.

I've never seen an interview before where the host talked more than the guest.

This interview made the last two days worth of cardio a damn breeze. Thank you, Shawn was amazing!

I met Shawn Ray in San Jose California, he is the coolest body builder I met. I highly recommend if you see him to go talk to him. Very approachable man. I also met Lee Priest, he was ok, Met Mike Matarrazzo not very nice guy, kind of a person that would belittle you. I know Mike Mattarrazzo passed away and it’s traditionally only say nice things about the dead, I’m not going to follow tradition and be truthful again. Out all these guys I met, Shawn Ray I would hang out with. I have a picture with Shawn Ray and Lee Priest.

Shawn Shawn Ray has always been to me, one of the ideal and aesthetically , one of the most symmetrical , and eye pleasing examples, at what body building should look like. To me when the judges started looking at Dorian, they missed the mark ,and the point of what they were supposed to be looking at? I understand size and wow factor of the extreme look? But genetically , Dorian in comparison to Shawn, I would of took Shawn's well balanced and pleasing to look at body over Dorian any day, to me that's when every everything changed, and the judge has started looking purely at the size and freak factor? I like Dorian but his genetics in my opinion we're not nearly as good, especially comparing each muscle and the genetics and balance of each muscle? To me that's when the Tide's changed? And the the judges factored in the freak aspect , when they shouldn't reward because of pure size? And now look at all the that has passed away because of it? Pushing purely or adding in the size factor? If it were my body with no consideration of weight and size? I would have much rather had Shawn's genetics. And probably most women also would agree to that? I remember when I was young my parents and I would look at bodybuilding magazines, and when Dorian came on the scene, she said that looks gross, he's too big and it don't look right. And I understood what she saying. That's to me the point where it made a turn.

This series is so good man

Shawn Ray is my favorite bodybuilder and person in the fitness industry. You just can’t find someone as honest as this in the industry.

I didn't like him before, but now after listening to him speking and the way he analyse things i change my opinion. Very smart guy and i love his logic of treating different situation Big respect ✌

Not just the best bodybuilding interview but one of the best interviews I've ever seen. Always been a fan of Shawn

Never thought I would say this but; Shawn made more sense than this narrator attempted to make during this discussion. Shawn is very much underrated in his ability to communicate.No its not arrogant, its reality, No champion can dictate to an organization as established as the Olympia. Yelling got this guy nowhere...Every time Shawn makes a valid point here, the narrator goes off comparing the case in point to another completely different scenario. I found it annoying and Shawn earns props here in my mind.

Shawn had one of the most impressive physiques in bodybuilding ever. These days they want huge monsters with big bubble guts. I miss 90's bodybuilding.

listening to Shawn Ray makes you wanna better yourself These are the guys i enjoyed listening to Growing up ... Battle for the olympias and magazines kept me going with life and training in the gym...God bless S.Ray!

Why was Patrick arguing with him about what the Olympia has to do going forward. Was this an interview or an argument?

Interviewer looks like he’s on speed or adderall...wide eyed and intense. Relax guy..it’s just a conversation

*I choose truth before political correctness*

Great interview and a very knowledgeable and eloquent man is Shawn Ray. Along with Samir, Paris, Makkaway, Arnold, Demey, one of the best physiques and intelligent minds that ever graced the Olympia stage!. Long live 80s bodybuilding. Undoubtedly the best era!

Shawn is a class act and a very smart guy one of the greatest for sure best show ever please have him back

How is this interview slamming anyone? Jesus he is just being honest. No slamming....

I have actually never heard of Shawn Ray before, a lot of the big names are recognized. But I'm a fan now this guy just impress the hell out of me great interview

Wow! Great interview. I have definitely changed my opinion on Shawn Ray. He's very articulate and really a visionary for the sport of bodybuilding. I hold him up there with the best. Amazing!