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She Can Type Faster Than You: Here's How! | Matt Gray is Trying: Stenography 

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@MattGrayYES
@MattGrayYES 8 месяцев назад
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@ragnkja
@ragnkja 8 месяцев назад
To those of us who use closed captioning regularly, it’s quite clear that AI isn’t up to the task yet, because it tends to fail right when we need the captions the most: ambiguous words and jargon.
@petergerdes1094
@petergerdes1094 8 месяцев назад
I suspect that is more a function of economics than capability. You need more processing power to run bigger models and much more data to train a more accurate model and, currently, that doesn't make economic sense.
@UntrackedEndorphins
@UntrackedEndorphins 8 месяцев назад
And rarely works with any other language than isn't english
@lifthras11r
@lifthras11r 8 месяцев назад
AI captioning does help trivial but time-consuming tasks. I have seen enough streamers who actively use AI captioning as a draft for the final caption. But that's still only a draft and has to be cleaned up. Streamers do know what they have said so such cleanup is not very hard, but it is generally hard to verify and fix AI-generated captions.
@speedstyle.
@speedstyle. 8 месяцев назад
The models used on youtube etc aren't great. Whisper is as good as professional transcribers, try the colab notebook
@insederec
@insederec 8 месяцев назад
I'm quite glad to have AI captioning for the many millions of videos out there that don't have dedicated stenographers for them, it's quite impressive how far it's come. Even if there's no replacing a skilled steno, I wouldn't want to go back to before AI captions.
@Mochi.Rin_Official
@Mochi.Rin_Official 8 месяцев назад
Matt: "I'm a child" you are, and don't let go of that part of you.
@hoej
@hoej 8 месяцев назад
He also has excellent stroking and hand positions.
@harriehausenman8623
@harriehausenman8623 8 месяцев назад
I had to giggle so much 🤭
@Gakulon
@Gakulon 6 месяцев назад
Keeping that sense of joy and wonder is a fantastic thing to do (also, off topic, but i love your profile picture!!)
@goesfarfliesnear1447
@goesfarfliesnear1447 3 месяца назад
Right? Don't grow up, it's a trap!
@benjaminshropshire2900
@benjaminshropshire2900 8 месяцев назад
I used to work at a company that had weekly all hands meeting that went over a lot of technical content. One week the live captioning on the web stream was notably worse than usual. Turns out a different person was doing it that week. The reason the normal person wasn't their was she was at the international championship for Stenography. She won.
@Finat0
@Finat0 5 месяцев назад
Okay that's realy awesome. I love that
@blancfilms
@blancfilms 8 месяцев назад
12:01 "the naughty word would come up but you'd have to double stroke it" 👀
@Beany87
@Beany87 5 месяцев назад
🤣
@TheNerdyArcher
@TheNerdyArcher 8 месяцев назад
As someone who's been curious about how stenography works, this was really interesting to see!
@fedsavi
@fedsavi 8 месяцев назад
Not being able to recommend new Tom Scott stuff, RU-vid freaked out and recommended me Tom Scott adjacent stuff. Great video btw
@Teverell
@Teverell 8 месяцев назад
I think that's what happened to me, too, not sure I would have found this otherwise! Really interesting to actually see how's it done.
@itskdog
@itskdog 8 месяцев назад
Check out the past episodes, Matt's done a couple before this, basically doing TechDif Adventures but without the others reacting. It's great stuff and really interesting.
@harriehausenman8623
@harriehausenman8623 8 месяцев назад
Yeah! This is the first time I heard about this channel, which is quite concerning, tbh.
@1One2Three5Eight13
@1One2Three5Eight13 8 месяцев назад
I can imagine that stenographers have a similar visceral reaction to "just use AI" as tech people would to "we should vote online!" or the like.
@limejet
@limejet 8 месяцев назад
or indeed as tech people would to "just use AI"
@HALLish-jl5mo
@HALLish-jl5mo 8 месяцев назад
It will get there. Though, more realistically, courtrooms could just record audio. It doesn’t need to be written down in real time. For that application we’ve solved it with technology already. Captioning the news live though, that requires a stenographer for now.
@MacCalder86
@MacCalder86 8 месяцев назад
Many courts do use audio - then it gets transcribed - often using text to speech programs with manual corrections.
@vatnidd
@vatnidd 8 месяцев назад
@@HALLish-jl5mo Very often in courtrooms lawyers and judges might want clarification of what was just said a minute ago, so court reporting still needs to be in real time.
@vatnidd
@vatnidd 8 месяцев назад
@@MacCalder86 Especially in countries where their languages don't have established steno theories.
@CrilG-Games
@CrilG-Games 8 месяцев назад
MATT!!! well done with getting a sponsor!! (hoping this series can continue!!) also edit: is that the studio/hall used for tech diff things?
@Quacky_Batak
@Quacky_Batak 8 месяцев назад
i was thinking the same. It looks like the new hall for tech diff. Would be fun to see tech diff team react to "Matt gray trys"
@barneylaurance1865
@barneylaurance1865 8 месяцев назад
@@Quacky_Batak Could well be Limehouse Town Hall.
@johnkeefer8760
@johnkeefer8760 8 месяцев назад
It is the same hall! Tom has also used it in a number of his videos. My theory (although I don’t know if it’s true) is that Tom owns the building as his “headquarters” or office where he stores his equipment, can use the facility, film, etc. But I would love to hear what Tom/Matt say about it!
@3thanguy7
@3thanguy7 8 месяцев назад
it's also definitely the hall Tom used in the video where he used the skeleton lie detector
@currykingwurst6393
@currykingwurst6393 8 месяцев назад
@@barneylaurance1865 It does say "Location: Limehouse Town Hall" in the description.
@TheMan83554
@TheMan83554 8 месяцев назад
The bit at the end about recording and machine transcription, computer tools are good for places where there is error tolerance, alexa and siri can be error tolerant, you just ask again. Court rooms need to be very accurate and we still can't beat a human brain on accuracy.
@beth12svist
@beth12svist 8 месяцев назад
Ditto for automatic translation. There's a lot of nuance in usage and context and languages by no means phrasing the same thought the same way that automatic translation can still introduce an awful lot of misleading errors that an experienced human translator can immediately catch. Doubly so in specialist fields with specialist terminology. ETA: And I really, really don't want this to be read as "the way to go is automatic translation checked by humans" because that, in effect, is highly expert people being paid less than minumum wage for what is often still a complete rephrasing and complete translation from scratch of whatever garbage the computer wrote. 🙄
@thomasdalton1508
@thomasdalton1508 8 месяцев назад
What you can do is have a computer transcribe and then get a human to check it. Even with a human stenographer, they will often record the proceeding as well so they can check their work afterwards. If you watch live TV with subtitles, you'll often see the subtitles being corrected in real time - I think that's often a human correcting the computer (although the computer may be relying on a human respeaking everything since humans are better at isolating a voice from background noise). The technology is just about there to replace the live stenography, but you still need the checking afterwards. We may only be a few years away from being able to dispense with the checking for all but the most critical uses, though.
@route2070
@route2070 8 месяцев назад
Especially when someone is frustrated or confused. You have lay people dealing with professional lawyers where the lawyer is trying to get the layperson witness to say something and that can be a rough experience so they go from a normal and calm voice to being aggravated, and I don't know if tech can work with that.
@JessicaKStark
@JessicaKStark 8 месяцев назад
@@thomasdalton1508 That's what dictaphones were for, yeah. They'd record the speech and then you played it back with a foot pedal. So you can basically do one word at a time as fast as you can type.
@thomasdalton1508
@thomasdalton1508 8 месяцев назад
@@JessicaKStark Dictaphones were mostly used for dictating for a secretary to type up rather than a stenographer. The secretary would just be using a regular qwerty keyboard. I think that's why you need the foot pedal - a secretary with a normal keyboard won't necessarily be able to keep up.
@amyshaw893
@amyshaw893 8 месяцев назад
The thing I love about this series is you watch a professional do it and it looks easy, but Matt is the average person (in this situation) to show how hard it is. It's like the thing I see occasionally about just picking randomly from the population for the Olympics, to show how hard the games actually are
@strabbie9548
@strabbie9548 8 месяцев назад
I wonder who came up with all these shortcuts and how they decided which ones to use. I came in here with one question "what even is stenography" and came out with a bunch of language optimisation questions. Absolutely amazing thanks. Also, first time I was happy to see a sponsor.
@efhiii
@efhiii 8 месяцев назад
There are a lot of different "theories" on how the shortcuts work, and as stenographers go through their careers, it's normal for people to develop their own modifications that fit their particular style and the types of words they see the most in their work. I personally use the RWG Theory aka Robert Walsh Gonzalez Theory which was developed by Allen Roberts, John Walsh, and Jean Gonzalez. The theory is mainly taught at South Coast College in Orange County in California, and Jean Gonzalez still works there. Other well known theories include StenEd, Plover Theory (which is open source and based on StenEd), Phoenix, and Magnum.
@Kulpo
@Kulpo 8 месяцев назад
Depends on the theory. There are many competing theories that differ in some aspects that I couldn't tell you. The basics stay mostly the same though and for most words that you end up hearing but arent covered by your theory. You just update the dictionary yourself with what you feel is the best stroke for that word!
@louis1001
@louis1001 8 месяцев назад
What I want to do now is learn a little about this and figure out how to make it a syllabic writing system for English. When they described being able to type syllables, words or sentences my first thought was how similar of a concept it sounds to Korean Hangul.
@efhiii
@efhiii 8 месяцев назад
​@@louis1001 Stenography was originally exclusively written. It wasn't until about the early 1900s that machine steno became a thing. Gregg Shorthand and Pitman Shorthand were the standard for a decently long time for English transcribing, and written shorthand goes back a very long way.
@louis1001
@louis1001 8 месяцев назад
@@efhiii oh, interesting. Thanks!
@SeanBZA
@SeanBZA 8 месяцев назад
My sister was a court transcriber, though she would work off cassette tapes of the proceedings, and in the beginning she was using a Selectric typewriter, and only after the court got fast enough computers, as the original AT and 386 machines were too slow to use, as she would out type the keyboard buffer regularly, so needed something past 50MHz running MSDOS and Word Perfect. Lots of macros as well, and a whole lot of muscle memory as well. Peaked at around 200WPM at times, and would churn out at least a case a day as well. Took her a while to adapt to Word, and she does go through keyboards, using them to the point the entire keyboard was worn down to plain caps, only the touch type bumps left on F and J as guide. Now out of practise, she is only around 80-100WPM now, doing lots of data entry and invoicing, plus lots of other work.
@beebware
@beebware 8 месяцев назад
Ah, the delay on early x86 machines. I remember a pre-Window word processing program which would very very slightly stall at the end of the line: as I was already touch typing at 120wpm+ at that point, the first letter or two of every line would be missing.
@flippetskater
@flippetskater 8 месяцев назад
WordPerfect's hotkeys (macros) were amazing. I used to be a clerk for a county drug identification lab, responsible for typing the reports from the chemists' notes for drug court use. The hotkeys made it SO fast and easy, with all the typical phrases that were used repeatedly. We kept using WordPerfect long after most people had switched to Word, because the macros were just not the same.
@natalyadell5099
@natalyadell5099 8 месяцев назад
As a deaf person who uses verbatim captioning (and hates AI speech recognition captioning 'respeaking' as now used commonly on TV) this is a great video. Leah is brilliant, I have seen her work before, she's very very fast AND accurate and a lovely person to boot. Trying to read respeaking captioning is nearly impossible cos it constantly corrects while coming up on the screen which gives me a huge headache, it's also a lot slower, it can't really go above 150-180 wpm, whereas good STTR (speech to text reporting) done by Steno or Palantype (two different chorded systems) can do 200 minimum and I've seen them go to 280-300+ wpm accurately. I just wish I'd known about STTR sooner, when I was a student as I really struggled and burned out not hearing properly and from listening effort. Good STTR increases my audio capacity by about 5x.
@harriehausenman8623
@harriehausenman8623 8 месяцев назад
Thanks for the insightful share! 🤗
@goesfarfliesnear1447
@goesfarfliesnear1447 3 месяца назад
That's so interesting. I asked one of my steno teachers about why the TV captions were so just wrong at times and she said it was due to AI. I'm still learning and have the option to eventually go into verbatim captioning. Thanks for posting, it was an informative insight.
@crunchyplasma1876
@crunchyplasma1876 8 месяцев назад
If you want to try out stenography without spending thousands on a machine, there is a program called plover which you can use to write steno with a regular keyboard. You just need to make sure your keyboard has n-key rollover.
@satibel
@satibel 8 месяцев назад
And if you start getting serious, you can make a steno keyboard for fairly cheap, you basically need someone with a 3d printer or a printing service, a soldering Iron and soldering wire, keys, an Arduino atmega32u4, diodes and wires. All in all, depending on how much material you have and your experience, count 30 min to 4 hours and 30 to 100 bucks (though you can now get a good resin 3d printer for fairly cheap, so you might just want to get that if you're using a few times instead of a printing service. Also it's a great first soldering project tbh, lots of easy soldering, and you don't risk shorting stuff out. If you want tactile but silent keys, the ones I'd recommend are the durock/jwick taro, very stable and have a great detent. You can add o-rings on your keys if you want to avoid hard bottoming out. I don't have experience with clicky or linear switches so can't recommend specific ones kailh makes decent affordable switches though but not sure if they're the best.
@dawnless852
@dawnless852 8 месяцев назад
A company called stenokeyboards sells stenotypes for just a 100 dollars, and they recently launched a Kickstarter for an even cheaper steno! I definitely recommend getting a machine like that, as keyboard steno isn't very pleasant. Plus, the uni 4 that they sell supports built in steno software using javelin! You can plug it in anywhere and it just works, without any set up on the pc
@amartini51
@amartini51 8 месяцев назад
There are also a bunch of free learning materials around Plover too!
@sirBrouwer
@sirBrouwer 8 месяцев назад
I have seen others buy a very cheap (musical) keyboard they could plug in to a screen. As the finger movement bare more similar.
@codenamelambda
@codenamelambda 8 месяцев назад
@@sirBrouwer IIRC there's an Italian machine stenography system that actually uses a keyboard that is essentially just a musical keyboard - that said, I think mapping (most) English steno (systems) onto a musical keyboard may be difficult reg. all the combinations of keys you have to be able to hit with a single finger though - presumably you'd need a dictionary specifically for that input method I think?
@gillianboate
@gillianboate 8 месяцев назад
When ye are talking about the word "F*ck" and one's like "so now I *double stroke* for that" had me giggling!
@PinkSupervisor
@PinkSupervisor 8 месяцев назад
This is not only a great series, this also looks so fun to me. The concept of "Man, I barely know anything about XY, I wish I could just try it - so I did" is so appealing.
@harriehausenman8623
@harriehausenman8623 8 месяцев назад
And Matt is the perfect host 🤗
@singerofsongs468
@singerofsongs468 8 месяцев назад
My great grandmother was a stenographer for the US Supreme Court, presumably a long time before any of these special stenography machines were around. Consequently, the mental image I (and I think many others) have of stenographers and the profession in general is like 70 years out of date! It was really cool to hear about the tech that’s currently in use and get an inside peek at this important form of record keeping.
@ToppyTree
@ToppyTree 8 месяцев назад
what incredible guests
@evilmorganfreeman2726
@evilmorganfreeman2726 8 месяцев назад
obviously alot of these videos wouldve already been filmed, but I would love more in doing "blue collar" jobs, I've always been really fascinated by the processes, like the line painting one, just little insites into the skills. Still loved this video and looking forward to see what comes next
@duncanhw
@duncanhw 8 месяцев назад
specifically in the theme "better than AI"
@Gulliolm
@Gulliolm 8 месяцев назад
Matt i love your brain. You are interested in the same topics that i am but you are more invested in learning about them than i am. (also, i miss(ed) your dirty jokes from the very old tech diff stuff :D )
@ethmodecroft7233
@ethmodecroft7233 8 месяцев назад
Videos like these are amazing because if nothing else they help demystify aspects of it that I would have no clue where to look for answers or to even begin questioning
@jollyfish84
@jollyfish84 8 месяцев назад
They were lovely ladies! I love their enthusiasm for something that on the surface looks like it could be quite dull but actually isn't at all. I also clapped when I saw the ad come on (which is weird, because who claps for ads usually?!) but I hope that will mean more of these in the future.
@ThePoxun
@ThePoxun 8 месяцев назад
You know what might be fun... a Stenography-off with another youtuber with say 3 months to learn :D
@devttyUSB0
@devttyUSB0 8 месяцев назад
I love how Leah turned red at the finger-in-the-crack joke. What a great video and experience!!
@EcceJack
@EcceJack 8 месяцев назад
I'll watch the whole thing later, but just a note on the title card: The Royal Institution's Christmas Lectures were on the topic of AI this winter. This is the second year they've livestreamed the recording of them to some science centres around the UK. Last year they used AI to get live subtitles for these livestreams. This year - despite the topic being AI - they opted for humans to do that work, because they were just... simply much better at it :D
@i.gaskoid
@i.gaskoid 8 месяцев назад
Love the clear visuals and step-by-steps -- makes it easier for novices to visualise what looks like such a difficult occupation to master! Wow. Shout out to stenographers everywhere
@charliespinoza1966
@charliespinoza1966 8 месяцев назад
Stenography and shorthand always seem kind of like magic, this was very cool. These vids are such a lift!
@nickfosterxx
@nickfosterxx 8 месяцев назад
Bought a book on shorthand in about 1976 thinking it would be great for university - verbatim lectures! Took one look and thought.... aaah crap no chance. Was given a portable typewriter two years later. Obvs completely unsuitable for lectures, but with hindsight wish I'd given it a go on April 1st. My markers must have been grateful though because my handwriting looked like Arabic.
@y_fam_goeglyd
@y_fam_goeglyd 8 месяцев назад
Imagine being taught this early in highschool, particularly with the new machines. You could become really proficient before you go into the "exam years" where prep for your various major school-leaving/going to uni exams requires a _lot_ of note taking! Ditto with taking notes in uni lectures. This could have saved me a whole load of agony from RSI and later on, osteoarthritis! On top of which, training to become a pro stenographer wouldn't take nearly as long 😊. Fascinating video, Matt. Many thanks to the ladies for their help and expertise. I'm thoroughly enjoying this series; each job is so different from anything I've done and some (already!) are ones I've wondered about, particularly stenography. Whatever you do next, have fun!
@harriehausenman8623
@harriehausenman8623 8 месяцев назад
Exactly! Why even bother talking about these other "layouts" when this is working perfectly.
@cosmicjenny4508
@cosmicjenny4508 8 месяцев назад
The slow zoom when you started talking about how complicated it was going to get was very funny. And yes, this is way more complicated than I thought! Amazing.
@felixsmdt
@felixsmdt 8 месяцев назад
The fact that just because you said Alexa, my Alexa (that isn't even set to English) went off and turned the lights in the room off proves why AI isn't there yet
@LaRocheSews
@LaRocheSews 8 месяцев назад
Woah suddenly I want to become a stenographer
@tessiepinkman
@tessiepinkman 4 месяца назад
I've always been incredibly fascinated by stenography. I must confess that I'm a little bit jealous that you got the chance to learn a bit from these two fabulous ladies! I'd really like that. It seems unbelievably hard. It's just like you said in the beginning, it looks like they are playing an instrument rather than writing. It's so cool!
@57thorns
@57thorns 8 месяцев назад
AI will have a hard time for a while yet, and voice recordings will not help with instant subtitling. In court rooms voice recordings are great for archiving, but again, the near instant typing really helps. Sure, you can claim "I did not say that", but then going back to the recording will show that yes you did, and with a good stenografer there will be fewer instances of someone mishearing a statement.
@JQSHl
@JQSHl 8 месяцев назад
Ah, a new Matt Gray video! Today is a good day!
@superrabbit224
@superrabbit224 8 месяцев назад
how do stenographers write names? because those aren't in the dictionary
@FelineFurKin
@FelineFurKin 8 месяцев назад
They can use the steno language to write everything as they hear it, they just have the expected stuff ready in the dictionary.
@MattGrayYES
@MattGrayYES 8 месяцев назад
They create custom dictionaries including names, relevant terms, and other shortcuts for each project (eg. a court case) to supplement the words they already have in there!
@stevieinselby
@stevieinselby 8 месяцев назад
Matt: It's all phonetic, you just write the sounds and don't worry about the spelling. Me: Matt: So "understanding" is written as U+P+B+S Me: 🤔😮😵‍💫🤯😵
@CraftsWithEllen
@CraftsWithEllen 7 месяцев назад
Finally got around to watching this, so interesting!! And such lovely ladies.
@HarelDan
@HarelDan 8 месяцев назад
Let's all agree to not enshittify the court system with AI.
@NonTwinBrothers
@NonTwinBrothers 4 месяца назад
As a current steno student I am contractually obligated to comment on how nice the captions are :D
@RossParker1877
@RossParker1877 8 месяцев назад
The Tech Diff town hall in use again. You'll be on mates rates by now Matt 😂❤
@MercenaryPen
@MercenaryPen 8 месяцев назад
not sure there would be mates rates considering its likely owned by a public body of some description and they tend to be notoriously short of cash...
@sirBrouwer
@sirBrouwer 8 месяцев назад
@@MercenaryPen they are also often notoriously cheap on the off peak hours. (peak hours would be after school/work hours during the week and the weekend it self) If you can rent it out during work hours the small bit extra cash is welcome if the rest of the building has to stay open anyways.
@insu_na
@insu_na 8 месяцев назад
Another reason why you don't want AI transcribing court proceedings is that the person transcribing takes on the responsibility of accuracy. With a stenographer you have a person you can point to when something is wrongly transcribed, but with an AI there is no person with legal liability, and especially no person who can vouch for accuracy.
@lwinklly
@lwinklly 8 месяцев назад
video from matt gray yay I've wanted to learn stenography too but never got the hang of it on my heavy-switch keyboard
@lwinklly
@lwinklly 8 месяцев назад
inb4 Plover comments
@quehablo
@quehablo 8 месяцев назад
Yeah, it's super important to use lighter switches or your hand gets exhausted lol. My main steno machine has 20g springs lol
@Zadster
@Zadster 8 месяцев назад
Fascinating stuff! It definitely fits into the "I would love to try this but I have absolutely no idea why" category. Good to see you have a sponsor, hopefully this will mean you get to do more things like this. Glad I'm not the only person who reads colours as resistor (and capacitor) values!
@muenstercheese
@muenstercheese 8 месяцев назад
matt, i'm LOVING this series. i've always wondered about these... maybe i'll go out and try it myself after this!
@piethein4355
@piethein4355 8 месяцев назад
The really really bad C wod, meanwhile in Australia
@memyselfiamweird
@memyselfiamweird 8 месяцев назад
Wow, I'd heard of stenography but never known what it was. In another lifetime, I may have pursued this as a career. Not where I thought your next video was going to go, but excellent nonetheless! Thank you!
@_interficere
@_interficere 8 месяцев назад
Bravo Matt, and three cheers for Mary and Leah. Great video, great channel. Best of luck with future endeavours.
@advanceringnewholder
@advanceringnewholder 8 месяцев назад
I'm jealous, I also wanna learn stenography
@pwhnckexstflajizdryvombqug9042
@pwhnckexstflajizdryvombqug9042 8 месяцев назад
So it's sort of like a system where every word is associated with a combination of key presses. There is obviously a logic to it, otherwise it would be impossible to learn, but at the core it's just using the fact that there are so many permutations of keys you can press that you can use it to get every word in the english language. I think the part I still don't understand, how do you write words, letters or numbers that are not "standard english". I guess you would have to input them as special phrases into the device dictionary before you start, means you can get yourself in to trouble if you forget one. What happens with two words that have the same phrasing but can be spelt differently? Or the complications of trying to spell people's names correctly.
@LearnedB
@LearnedB 8 месяцев назад
Yes, words from other languages can be a problem and we have to write them differently. Before starting a case, we prepare job dictionaries, so we can prepare for those words/names
@biaroca
@biaroca 8 месяцев назад
This is so interesting! I wonder how it works in other languages! Are the keys the same (and the language pack changes) or does every language have a different keyboard? I have to go this up now or my brain won't get a rest!
@LearnedB
@LearnedB 8 месяцев назад
(Copied from my reply above: The layout of the keys on a US English steno machine is based on the frequency of sounds in the language. This can make writing foreign language words difficult. Other countries do have their own steno machines, with the keys assigned as diffferent sounds
@Hupfen
@Hupfen 8 месяцев назад
With the mention of stenographic typing being all syllables and phonemes and such, I gotta wonder if their development connected with developing Shavian or other phonetic alphabets. Just imagining using a phonetic keyboard for a phonetic alphabet, yet it's all English under the hood. Language is cool and it's cool what stenographers can do with it
@Kummahndough
@Kummahndough 8 месяцев назад
Court stenography was always something I wanted to know about. Thank you for bringing it more into the public eye!
@blisphul8084
@blisphul8084 8 месяцев назад
You should cover Open Source Stenography, Plover. It is free, and hobbyist machines are cheap. Also, it can do many more languages, including Asian languages with different characters. You can also use it for everyday typing and computing.
@l3gacyb3ta21
@l3gacyb3ta21 8 месяцев назад
Matt really does look like a stenographer /pos
@harriehausenman8623
@harriehausenman8623 8 месяцев назад
ONe question I had was: How do they handle the situation (esp. in court) if they actually do not understand what someone said? Like assume some barely comprehensible certain physics professor in Nottingham, with a strong scottish accent talking way too fast - hypothetically 😆
@hantuchblau
@hantuchblau 8 месяцев назад
Shoutout to the open source software plover, which lets you try steno on any n-key-rollover keyboard. It also works with proper steno machines, and there are a number of open 3d printed steno keyboards which you can buy or build yourself. Court reporting steno machines are *really* expensive.
@goesfarfliesnear1447
@goesfarfliesnear1447 3 месяца назад
Matt! I'm a steno student learning court reporting on the other side of the pond. It was sooooo helpful to see these ladies explain some of these things. Plus, you are very entertaining! Thank you and you should give this a go, I think you're a natural! Me, I'm not too sure about, grrr. Cheers from Seattle!
@harriehausenman8623
@harriehausenman8623 8 месяцев назад
So this settles the old question, if QWERTY, Dvorak or Colemak is better: None of them! 😆
@x9x9x9x9x9
@x9x9x9x9x9 8 месяцев назад
I know Tom has retired but this would have been so cool for him since he is into phonetics. I had to go to court for a traffic thing once but they were also doing some other larger court things there and the stenographer sat there and stared at me the whole time. It was really awkward until I realized she wasn't staring at me she was just staring off into space while listening/typing. It was fairly impressive. But I do have to wonder how much longer stenography will be a thing since computers have gotten so good at listening and converting speech to text. I know he mentions in the video but there is no way the art lasts another 20 years. Technology is getting better every day and eventually it will be foolproof.
@aqwek
@aqwek 3 месяца назад
it was great to see this video! being a stenographer myself, not only is it great to see others trying it, but it's great to see professionals, not just hobbyists, in this video! i was surprised when Mary's dictionary used P for "approximately" but i see why, it's pretty common
@tttITA10
@tttITA10 7 месяцев назад
This is great! I have been dreaming of learning how to do this for so long! But also how in the everliving f*k does UPBS translate to "understanding"?!
@moatl6945
@moatl6945 8 месяцев назад
In German speaking countries machine-stenography never got implemented. So stenography in parliaments is done with pen(cil) and paper. In courts the protocol is written on computer.
@in2itivity
@in2itivity 8 месяцев назад
From the video description: “as RU-vid doesn't let you set custom names for caption tracks” Actually, they do! Once you've uploaded your caption track under your desired language, click on its options menu and select “Rename.” Then you can add a custom name which will be shown next to the language. Bonus, when you set a custom name for a caption track, it lets you upload another caption track under the same language, so you can have multiple named tracks under the same language.
@animyosfox8617
@animyosfox8617 7 месяцев назад
The German parliament stenographs all of its debates, including the interjections. For this purpose, the stenographers have their own table facing the ranks. These protocols are truly fascinating, and they contain many things that just could not be heard on the recording.
@jmcb0089
@jmcb0089 8 месяцев назад
Clicked expecting a video on steganography and got something very different
@v6243_____
@v6243_____ 8 месяцев назад
these ladies are so patient and sweet! wonderful guests to your fun little antics
@dianahellman9254
@dianahellman9254 8 месяцев назад
I'll chime in and agree - I've always been curious about stenography and how those machines work! Thanks so much for trying this out and for finding these experts!!! Also, I'm happy to see the sponsor!!
@martina5296
@martina5296 8 месяцев назад
I hope they get paid alot, they deserve it. Stenography is even more confusing than I thought. 😂 Glad there are people who do that job. They have incredible brains to concentrate on their jobs and listening to everything.
@o0Pezinator0o
@o0Pezinator0o 8 месяцев назад
This is so awesome. The perfect blend of interesting, detailed explanations and fun duck/truck/lucking around!
@Thawney
@Thawney 8 месяцев назад
matt truly is making his way across the list of things I want to try lol
@BraxtonMeyer
@BraxtonMeyer 8 месяцев назад
you should also check out something called plover if you want to learn this yourself. As a steno machine dedicated like shown here can cost hundreds if not thousands of dollars.
@libsifywriter2471
@libsifywriter2471 8 месяцев назад
Oh my god! This has answered so many questions for me… but now I really want a stenography machine 😂
@COPKALA
@COPKALA 8 месяцев назад
During an international conference (during corona) we had 'automatic' recognition of the things which were spoken, I read some of the transcripts. The sentence had sense, but It had nothing to do with what it was said. Not even the subject was near the mark. I must say that not all the sentences were wrong, but 'not few' were off...
@raynlaze1339
@raynlaze1339 7 месяцев назад
Wow i've never heard or seen this stuff before, learn something new every day.
@FallingofftheGrid
@FallingofftheGrid 3 месяца назад
That was absolutely wonderful and so wholesome! 💖
@beth12svist
@beth12svist 8 месяцев назад
I only in maybe the last week found out that modern stenography was done with typing on a keyboard, so this was an excellent video with excellent timing for me!
@peema10
@peema10 8 месяцев назад
"What is stenography?" Hiding data in plain sight isn't it? (No, it's not)
@douglasboyle6544
@douglasboyle6544 8 месяцев назад
20 years ago I dated a stenographer, they are indeed a strange breed ;) She tried to teach me how to use the machine, it was insanity! I have nothing but the utmost respect for people who do this.
@IzzyIkigai
@IzzyIkigai 8 месяцев назад
Matt just completely taking over Tom Scott's role while also having more of the wonder you see in a child's eyes while learning about new things is the best thing that happened in 2024. This is so much better.
@Cats-TM
@Cats-TM 8 месяцев назад
I would love to learn stenography, it is just so cool and probably useful.
@really-quite-exhausted
@really-quite-exhausted 8 месяцев назад
Not only does the keyboard function like a musical instrument, i suspect that learning stenography is probably similar to learning a new musical instrument in terms of brain processes. Fascinating stuff
@ricdavid
@ricdavid 8 месяцев назад
Very neat, you basically learn an entirely new (and not entirely intuitive) spelling scheme for English. I suppose after learning it you could write essentially coded messages in steno that only people who knew how to do steno would be able to read.
@LearnedB
@LearnedB 8 месяцев назад
KWREP = yep
@saaaaaaaar
@saaaaaaaar 8 месяцев назад
I don't know why RU-vid brought me to a video about stenography, but I'm glad they did. Nice work!
@magicmulder
@magicmulder 8 месяцев назад
13:10 What she didn't mention about how she "would just write it" if it came up even though she took it out of the dictionary: She'd use a technique called finger spelling where you can type any word not in the dictionary by actually spelling it letter by letter, with each letter being one stroke. Inefficient but indispensible when you're dealing with things like names.
@LearnedB
@LearnedB 8 месяцев назад
Yes, or as Leah mentioned, she has the words in her dictionary, but she has to stroke them twice or three times
@alexjh47
@alexjh47 8 месяцев назад
This looks similar to learning to send Morse Code, where spacing between characters and words is timing. Ie dah-dah-dah could be T T T or O depending on how fast you're sending.
@FelineFurKin
@FelineFurKin 8 месяцев назад
This is a lovely video, such enthusiasm. I’ve known these ladies a long time, used to edit documents for a few stenographers, so this is really fun to see.
@icefox13
@icefox13 8 месяцев назад
Nice video Matt, as always! Does anyone know how do they deal with homophones? (e.g. raise vs. rays vs. raze)
@ragnkja
@ragnkja 8 месяцев назад
Good question, especially since that’s one of the things AI tends to get wrong.
@vatnidd
@vatnidd 8 месяцев назад
Yesssss! I've been learning stenography for over a year now and really fascinating! I'm so glad you're having fun with it.
@Eddyspeeder
@Eddyspeeder 8 месяцев назад
6:00 I think that in British English, the "T" button should phonetically stand for "tea".
@efhiii
@efhiii 8 месяцев назад
There are two T buttons, one on the left and one on the right. In the theory I use, the left one by itself means "it" and the right one by itself means "the". For the word tea, I do "TAE". It would definitely be doable to make one of the T keys mean "tea", but it'd be a bit silly to do that.
@jayzo
@jayzo 8 месяцев назад
the "T" is the word "the", so it's a Northern Accent then.
@0LoneTech
@0LoneTech 8 месяцев назад
8:15 The particular value of 150 ohms is brown green brown, as on the punsch-roll pastry (brown chocolate and green marzipan).
@PopeGoliath
@PopeGoliath 8 месяцев назад
nOt to be confused with steganograpHy. what's thAt? well, It's a secret!
@muenstercheese
@muenstercheese 8 месяцев назад
o hai!
@anewbimproves5622
@anewbimproves5622 8 месяцев назад
Ah, I see. Keeping your fingers on the crack means you can stroke faster?
@emh7769
@emh7769 7 месяцев назад
Love the video Matt ❤ keep up the good work!!!
@eleanormally
@eleanormally 8 месяцев назад
To anyone who watched this and went “I’d like to try that”, there’s an incredible piece of free software called plover that turns any standard keyboard into a steno capable one! Granted, it works much better if you have a keyboard without staggered keys, but it’s still a great thing to mess around with without the massive investment of a stenography machine.
@MashedPotatoeComedy
@MashedPotatoeComedy 8 месяцев назад
Loved this Matt! Hope this new show works out for you, it is brilliant
@607
@607 8 месяцев назад
I disagree with you about the shortcuts (eg. R for 'are') being good examples of being a phonetic keyboard. After all, 'K A T' becomes 'cat', and not 'katy'! Great video, lots of fun, and an interesting subject!
@piethein4355
@piethein4355 8 месяцев назад
Wait is that a PS2 port on those steno machines?
@IfEnjoinder
@IfEnjoinder 8 месяцев назад
Never not gonna love you and your vibe.
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