I don’t think rapist or muderers can change their ways. Once they’ve crossed that threshold of violating human rights to that extent it’s like they can’t go back. They become inhuman
I think it’s in them from the start… if someone chooses to purposely do that to someone I don’t believe they ever had value for human life and are capable of doing it again
@@KPbouj It makes sense because killers more often than not have a specific motive, they'll kill someone in particular for a personal reason (unless they're serial killers), whereas rapists only do it for self gratification. They will do it again if given the chance because they don't need a specific set of circumstances or a particular victim in mind, they act on their impulses.
I guess motive matters. What was his motive for strangling the prostitute ? I understand he was on coke but not everyone who does drugs kills people. Not to victim blame but it wasn’t a good idea to start a relationship with this man. She was a smart woman who could have done better. May be there is a dark side to the true crime community. May be some people get so involved in some of these cases, they start to glamorize the people involved in their heads.
That's what I was thinking like he drove over an hour to the exact bush area and it's an "educated guess." Not a funny topic but the stupidity is hilarious
@@jimmyzhao2673 i know that trope. i hate when entertainment media propagates it too. the good girl whose love saves a bad boy. when the good girl "fixes" the bad boy with her love. us, women need to stop romanticising it honestly. it's so unhealthy to think & believe we need to "fix" the person we're with. growing & becoming a better person together is fine. but this saviour complex does no good to anyone. if anything, it mostly ends with the woman suffering. this case just proved that.
@@Shreya-zt2ne Bro the "bad boys" are just a high school phase, they are not convicted criminals, jesus christ. Falling for a brooding teenager is not even close falling in love with a murderer. I really don't wanna victim blame here and RIP to Louise but what the fuck was she thinking? I will never understand.
I can’t even imagine trusting a man who was in prison for murder. She clearly was a very naïve person. Nobody deserves to lose their life, it’s so sad.
I worked with the police to convict my ex-husband, and it was terrifying. He had inappropriate child images and I suspected him of hurting our kids, which has been confirmed but not convicted. I was the one who reported him and gathered evidence for them. He had guns, and made a bunch of comments like, "I'm not going to prison for this," and implied that he would take himself and me out before the cops came to get him. I was so scared he would find out before he was arrested. Marie is incredibly brave to go through that, knowing that the guy she was hanging out with was already a murderer, I imagine the fear would be so much worse O.O
We need more people like you and Marie. Ultimately, choose to swallow fear in order to protect vulnerables and society, and do the right thing. That was awesome of you both.
The fact that he got ONLY 10 years for murdering someone, and then only served 8 is disgusting. And the fact that she helped him leave prison early, after he MURDERED someone, is disappointing of her.
She had some issues of her own obviously. Still hanging out with an on again off again fling and then being at all interested in a murderer is not really great thinking 😩😩
Man kill a prostitute: no shit, just give him 8 yrs. Man kill a doctor/medic/lawyer etc etc: REAL SHIT! LOCK HIM FOREVER 200 YRS IN JAIL!!!. Double standars -_-
this is a bittersweet case. I'm sad for Louise that she met such a brutal end but she was well aware he was a murderer serving an abysmal sentence of 10 years that she shortened by getting him released early, thus, shortening the justice for the victim he strangled. I'm in awe of Marie and her bravery and her final message to him was perfect! again, it's bittersweet because no one deserves to be killed like that.
I've never felt more anxious listening to one of these true crime episodes... I was expecting him to literally attack Marie any second the entire time. She has BALLS.
He probably liked her. She is pretty. Also he trusted her and respected. So he couldn't just rape her. She knew that until she sleeps with him, she had power over him. Also she started slightly teasing him and trapped him eventually. Just a very smart woman
Honestly I hope this story stops women from falling for men that are behind for murder… especially considering he admitted to doing it! So messed up. That detective was soooo BRAVE, omg she deserves everything and anything. R.I.P to the victim, this is sooo sad!
She helped that man getting out of prison early and contributed to the victim not getting the justice she deserved. It's very sad that she was murdered and I hope she never met that man but it still makes me very angry that she helped him get out early
This story is insane! Marie is brave to put herself in that situation. I can’t believe police moved on so quickly from the killer without further investigation. The case could’ve been solved so much quicker. It’s a shame when police get that sort of “tunnel vision” and just move on. He seemed suspicious from the start and he was already a convicted killer, how could they just let that go?! The bank statements were an immediate identifier.
I hate police, and consider them to be untrained, lazy and prejudice. However (and we know this), these men can be so incredibly manipulative. What annoys me most is that we are relying on police to assess situations- relying on idiots. But we need to have actual experts talk with the man during the investigation- like a psychologist or someone with education and training. People who paid to go to university and an education. People who have skills and intelligence. Louise was an intelligent woman and she was manipulated by this man. Obviously police were going to be. But if there are checks and balances made by actual professionals upon the investigation and instructing police... maybe these things wouldn't CONSTANTLY happen. Private investigators are not only trained, they get extreme background checks. Police in Australia train for 24 weeks. Still- it is a lot longer than the 16 weeks NZ police train for. The system needs to be fixed
Bless you for doing solves cases!! My heart can’t handle the ones that are still cold and it just makes me look forward to your videos that much more!!
as someone who was violently stranged by an abusive ex... i have a hard time not being angry at Louise, im sorry but you dont get to forgive someone for strangling and killing a sex worker, thats on the victim who was killed to forgive him, not for Louise.
We don’t know what lies he told her when he was in jail. I can guarantee that she wouldn’t have helped him get out if he said “yes I killed a prostitute and enjoyed it.” What’s wrong with people blaming her? We don’t know what mindset he had put in her. We don’t know what lies he told. After all, even the cops and investigator believed him at first. But This is not her fault. She was a victim.
I'd like to know more about Marie and what she did afterward, did she go on to do private detective work? She should have been hired on the spot onto the police force if I'm in charge.
just looked it up. she apparently had to move back to Scotland and go into hiding for two years after the case but it seems like she continued being a private investigator
SSoup, I was worried for her during AND after she openly got involved with his case. Knowing that she returned to Scotland after he was arrested was smart and really fortunate that he died within two years, of hepatitis and freed from his mind.
Yeah I kinda wonder this to as she called herself a feminist that woman he murdered was a human being with family who loved her and a life she had to live she didn’t really seem to put much thought into that which did bother me a little still not her fault she was murdered of course but I agree with you
honestly, i don’t understand how she trusted someone who strangled and killed someone unprovoked. like… that’s not something that stable people do, i don’t know why she thought he wouldn’t do the same to her.
We don’t know what lies he told her when he was in jail. I can guarantee that she wouldn’t have helped him get out if he said “yes I killed a prostitute and enjoyed it.” What’s wrong with people blaming her?
@@karinavelazquez1255 I don’t think it matters what he told her. She clearly had a bias towards incarcerated people having written about them. Probably assumed very naively that he was a good man because he helped exonerate someone.
I just found out I was mistakenly unsubscribed to you for the last 7-9 months and now I have so much to binge watch on yaaaay! and a new video too! must be my lucky day
Sometimes the subscriptions disappear, which makes no sense. But I check daily for Bella just to be on the safe side so I don't miss anything. I got my group of regulars I watch so I am checking those frequently. I 've heard other influencers talk about subscriptions disappearing on other channels.
@@Zoeylite been really busy this year so i guess it’s my fault I didn’t check my fav RU-vidrs regularly. But i did search her channel today and i’m kinda glad i was unsubscribed and have lots to catch up on!
This is seriously one of the “best” cases I’ve heard! The way Bella tells this story unfolds a crime movie in my mind!!🍿 They should do a movie on this!! Marie is such strong human being for doing what she did!!🙏
i don’t wanna blame the victim at all but Louise knew he was in prison for murder & still got close to him. it’s hard because obviously she was an amazing woman for trying to help him turn his life around but it’s a shame that he ended up doing that to her. i just don’t know what you think would happen if you’re getting involved with a killer.
I agree. I understand wanting to help people, but sometimes you have to do it from a distance and not get personally involved. She should have left it at the thank you letter and maybe put a little cash on his books but that's it.
it’s hard to put yourself in her shoes, especially when she seemed to think he showed real change by helping get another murderer convicted and getting someone out. as awful as he was, rehabilitation happens. it just doesn’t seem fair to blame her when the justice system clearly had judged him as not a threat and she can’t defend herself now
Saw this case on an episode of Murder She Solved. You’re so good at this that you kept me entertained the whole time even though I’ve heard the story recently. What a case. What a shame.
I sometimes watch cases on different channels to get a different POV. Can be very eye opening. It is extremely dodgy becoming involved with someone behind bars for ACTUAL killing while under the influence of drugs. No matter how good they seem, they HAVE KILLED.
Im from Ottawa and I've never heard of this case before! I was only 5 when this happened but it feels close close home because well, it is. I loved chickadee magazine and now my own kids do. I think because it happened within the same city I automatically feel closer to the victim and thr case in general. I also have have point out that Marie is one bad ass woman, I'm so impressed by her bravery. Taking Louise away at the prime of her life no less is an absolute tragedy, she seemed like the kind of person who just wanted to make a difference, make others happy and see justice where it was due. I don't doubt the impact she would have made on the world, had her life not been stolen by someone so ungrateful for the help she gave him. He did the world a massive disservice by stealing Louise's future, she truly seemed to be a beautiful soul♥ r.ı.p
this frustrates me because I really think if media wasn't so focused on the whole "woman fixes a bad man" dynamic in movies, less women would try to save dangerous men. it's so sad.
Brett is obviously a narcissistic murderer who gets aroused by killing and revisiting the scene. Had Marie said anything that made her look suspicious, he would have killed her too, because in a way, she was his next best available target. Marie was really brave to actually "work" with him. What I'm curious about is that, if he was in a hurry to cover up Louis' murder, would he be so organized? Wouldn't he have left some sort of physical evidence? Because he'd have to keep up with her schedule. Maintain the time, calculate when she would leave, at what time she was to reach, and how long it would take her if she used a particular route (from the dump site to John's place)- which he has to cover in a small time frame. I'm even more curious about his thought process than how he committed the crime. Very intriguing and more scary
❤️❤️ love your energy. Even on the terrible stories, you seem to make them easier to understand. You have a great way of explaining and detailing everything. Thanks for always uploading and having respect for the victims.
There's a novel called 'The Innocent Wife' by Amy Lloyd that shares some similarities with this case. Really good for anyone who enjoys psychological thrillers!
It’s so sad what happened to Louise, but I can’t understand how anyone can fall in love with a murderer. So sad that a seemingly selfless and kind person was murdered for trusting someone. Marie is awesome. “How does it feel to be taken down by a woman?” Savage. I love it.
I honestly don't see how investigators, other types of police, nurses, EMTS, paramedics, and doctors, other types of medical people and therapists have enough patients whenever they help people. Kudos to them. You don't know how much I appreciate you guys.
@@Semiemily apparently you dont get it like the 59 other people. So people who help people in hospitals, doctors' offices, police offices and so forth have a ton of patients. I couldn't have that much with what they do
It would’ve been a lot easier to understand if you had spelled the word “patience” correctly, but instead you spelled it as “patients”, which is even more confusing because doctors and nurses and everybody else you mentioned do have both kinds of “patients/patience”. This is a situation where one little misspelled word makes a world of difference.
Marie is incredible. Out of all his super sus behavior I found it also really telling that his plan was for just him and Marie to search the woods for Louises body. Usually, if you think your loved one could be kept or buried somewhere in a huge and hard to search place like the woods, you'd try to get as many people involved in the search as possible. On a sidenote, it might just be me but convicting him for 10 years for the murder of his first (?) victim and letting him off after just 8 years sounds incredibly disrespectful towards the woman he killed. And to me it felt like her murder didn't matter much because she's been a sex-worker. Sad thing is that I wasn't able to even find her name.
Wow, just thinking about being so close to an evil killer and trying to pretend to trust and like him just gives me the hebbie jeebies with a scary twist running up my spine. The case might not have been solved though, had she not been such a baddy!!
I’m so happy you popped up on my suggested list! I watch a lot of people talk about crimes but none are Aussie, nice to see a fellow Australian doing these. 😍
Yeah. Glad they tied him to two other murders like you said in the end. He definetly sounds like he had murdered others before and/or since Louise. May she rest in peace
Marie is honestly such a brave woman, she went into this case (nevertheless being her FIRST CASE) trying to help figure out the case so she can get this horrid man in jail. Props to her! Edit: and she went into the woods ALONE! She's honestly a great person. She must've been terrified!
He doesn't strike me as an exceptionally smart chap. Why did he freak about that helicopter when he was playing it innocent and having nothing to be afraid of? 🤷🏻♂️
Guilty conscious, mate. He is a criminal who had killed 2 women, spent almost a decade in prison. If there's one thing he is good at, it's being guilty.
That’s Cool how it’s morning for you and it brightens your day, it’s nighttime here in the UK and I’m just about ready to let Bella talk to me until I fall asleep 🤣🙈🥰 xx
@@charlie-mariebell8751 it is actually 5 pm so it’s not morning right now, but it is crazy how many time differences and we all watch it no matter what time it is.
Just a personal preference: I liked it better when the name of the video was just "Case of...", instead of the way you've been naming them lately. Other than that, loveeee your videos
I actually appreciate that she titles the cases this way bc I can't watch the ones that are unsolved. They leave me super anxious & upset afterwards knowing the criminal(s) got away w it & knowing they're still out there. Even if we know the case was solved it's still suspenseful bc we don't know who the killer is initially 🤷🏽♀️
Marie is the real M.V.P this was her first case and she gave it everything she had risking her own life to find peace for someone else's family members KUDOS to Marie if she's watching 💕💕💯💯🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾 Sidebar I wonder if Marie ever felt as if she needed to get tested for Hep C since she kissed him?😭🤮🤢
8 years for killing a woman!? I’m a Canadian and it makes me so mad how easy these people get off here. There’s been so many times where they shouldn’t have been let out and the Canadian justice system just gives them a slap on the wrist
For me, what I learned or better said confirm from this case is that murders murder again, that's why the should stay in jail forever. I understand that sometimes people deserve a second chance but not in those cases where the second chance could end in murdering again
Wow! Thanks for sharing this case, Bella. This was a really interesting one & one I’ve never heard of before now. Marie was so very brave & truly said & did all the right things, except kissing him, I couldn’t have went there.😬🤮 I can’t imagine how unnerved she must have been around him at times, but she did such a great job with this care, especially this being her first case as a PI!😳 Just insane! So glad he was caught before he killed again. It’s just so sad for Louise, though. She had a giver’s heart, but unfortunately, helped the wrong person & he obviously didn’t appreciate all she did for him at all.🤬😤😓💔 Anyhow, hope you & Kerrie have a wonderful weekend! Cheers!🤗💞
Maria in the bushes alone with a killer it felt like he was trying to trap her in the bushes and bury her as well. Maybe he thought she was suspicious and then changed his mind 🥲
I made the mistake on dating an ex-con who was still on probation and he tried to scam me but thankfully I ended things before it got outta hand. Being a single mother, one is so vulnerable especially when it comes to the wantingness of a companion. I will never judge anyone for the decisions they make because we simply do not know their mental space. I felt nothing but so much hurt for the woman who lost her life all because she saw the Good in evil. 😮💨
I think he knew what was going on when looking for Louise then went to the police station to play the part of trying to implicate the ex. Marie should have been armed that's a big risk to take and people would have been in hot water if he killed her.
He murder a woman with bare hands, why was let out, then how does a woman fall in love with murderer. Crazy hard feel for her, as she help him get out, imagine he killed more women
Omg the rainy background sounds so beautifully relaxing. My kids and I sleep so good when a middle of night storm comes in. Especially when the hard sounding rain lasts until early morning.
I love it when I get a notification that Bella has uploaded a new video! Marie is incredibly brave and Louise was an absolutely kind and caring woman. This is such a tragic story.
You should cover the Jayna Troxel Murray case! (lululemon murder) I would love to hear your view on it! Love the way you talk about cases and you have so much respect for everyone❤️
Oookkk I’m sorry but immediately hearing that she tried to get someone out of jail who MURDERED someone so you can DATE… HOOWWWW is that not a red flag????? What is wrong with people
Why do women fall in love with murderers, especially even getting him out of jail. Once a murderer always a murderer. Oh man. Marie is really awesome though. I'm glad nothing happened to her it could've easily turned bad really quickly.
I avoided the comments for this one because I was lowkey hoping that it wasn't him lol, but wow I'm absolutely blown away by Marie and her courage. Was terrified for her - especially when she was essentially forced to kiss him and that moment when they found Louise's body - but gosh. What an icon.
