@@shaaravguha3760 It depends what the job was. Before I retired $90k would have way under paying. My sister make eight figures seven figures would be underpaying.
@@matthewhuszarik4173 In your sisters case 7 figures would not be underpaying her, she's just currently overpaid. No hate to your sister (I respect the hustle) but you cannot seriously convince me that there's a job where someone deserves 7 figures (let alone 8). Obviously there are jobs that offer it, but if those people earning 10 million suddenly 'only' started earning 1 million then I don't think anyone would say they're being underpaid. 90k is more than a liveable wage (atleast in my country, might be different america) so anyone making that is not being underpaid.
@@shaaravguha3760 No one is over paid. You are paid exactly as much is someone is willing to pay you. Don’t be such a fool. If someone else is willing to pay you more, than you are underpaid.
In the United States of America, you can generally fire a person for no reason at all. Or you can come up with a reason. You can quit, they can fire, no reason necessary.
@@friendlyfire3412 bout as fair as it gets. Don't want to employ me? You don't have to. I don't want to work there, you can't make me. That's as close to a free market as you're likely to see.
@@ThePresentation010 Nobody said it's illegal idiot, people said it's frowned upon by companies. And what's a white person thing, being educated & well-paid?
Maxim is right. What was the other stuff? Maybe she is hiding the real reason for her being fired as her revealing her salary. People aren't always honest when they get fired. It's easier to lie about the reason than to admit what actually happened.
Yes you'll get fired if u post about you're salary. Our company would always remind us whenever their is a salary increase or whenever one of us get an incentive. One of my colleagues almost got fired as she ignored the warng & posted her salary increase. Good thing my supervisor saw it & DM her & hastily deleted the post otherwise if other colleagues seen it they would have snitched.
@@josephdanieljirehdimacali4418 doesn't seem legal, you could fight that and you would win in any sane place, you're allowed to disclose your salary, any company trying to silence that obviously isn't paying everyone fairly lol
She's bragging about her salary... That's the internet... Most of the people brag for what they have for them to feel superior than other people lol...😂
And who’s do that most women brag what they have when they didn’t work for it they probably look Into what she actaully did which was nothing and why she got a raise
@@joshuadelgado52 There’s nothing to “look into” when the one’s who fired her are the one’s who gave her a raise in the first place……and as a man, I gotta say, these comments that give off “I hate women” vibes for no reason are getting old.
I was at a job where we all made garbage. Got a 50 cent raise and was told to not tell anybody. I told everybody trying to figure out what they made. Same, most of us don’t work there no more.
While I agree that there is merit to what you say there is also something called experienced employee should be paid more than new one without experience. Not everyone gets this, unfortunately.
@sceptic2061 experience isnt relevant to this debate though. We are talking about being fired for sharing salary info and the reasons why they might do this. Also it's obvious that experience pays more.
@@yehldyehld Agreed that it should be obvious. It should also be obvious that a man is a man and woman is a woman, but it is not. Not that I'm against salary transparency. With logical sound people like you and many here, the transparency is good. The problem will come out with few entitled who think they should yearn the same fresh out of college because colleges taught them equity.
And here I am, from a third-world country with socialist leanings, with broadly accessible social, vocational and education programs-here I was thinking that the employers are slightly ashamed that they are paying an employee this much, I am guessing this much more than the average skilled employee. Where I live, no one discloses their salary. Apart from not wanting to get robbed, there is also the understanding that inequality exists, and while the answer is not going communist and sweating the small stuff, there is some acceptable shame that comes with collecting a salary which you can’t really, rightly deserve. Modesty is the word I think I am looking for. Or discretion, something like that.
Naw its just simple greedconomics! They fear if other employees find out how much she is making they are going be like I would like a raise, I want a raise too I do the same job pay me more too. Knowledge is power and it will empower people to ask for a raise. What they should have done is create a position and then tell her we are giving you a promotion with a new title. That way people would be like, oh she got promoted. That way they won't have to act like fascist and not get sued for firing someone just because she told other people how much she makes at her current job. So much dumb drama could be avoided, I mean like if what Bady said "if that's all she said" lol.
It’s probably written in her employment contract somewhere that she can’t disclose her pay. I’m sure she signed it with out even reading. Lots of jobs I’ve been to have this as a rule. Which is why she’s not pursuing legal actions.
@@vicwalton9041 Any time you get a job in the us or in other parts of the world you often almost always sign an employment contract. This makes legally employed by a company and gives you rights as ab employee this contract also may contain specific requirements for the job so that the company is legally protected if you say don't preform your work or dmage company property.
I live in the UK and once had a contract like this. Here's the thing, at least in the UK - it's still illegal. Yes, your employer can put something in the contract to not disclose your salary. But it's not legally enforceable. They'll be relying on scare tactics and the employee's ignorance. They'll also be hoping there's no union presence to actually inform them of this. Just because your contract says it doesn't mean it's legally enforceable - but employers very rarely get punished for trying it anyway and it is enough to scare most people.
That's an interesting approach. As long as you can have a worker dependent on the wage to sign what you dictate to them, it suddenly has no wronhood attached to it. It's a good loophole to cross reason. Reminds me of the video of model flown to Dubai where her contract said the 12 year old brother can also have sex with her.
Most companies have a social media policy that covers general information on what someone can/cannot share on social media, and that usually applies if the postings can tie a person back to their employer.
She has a right to be stupid, and if she just got a raise, than that's proof of her meetung her companies performance exoectations; so it should be very easy for her to win a lawsuit against the company!
@@michaelcheli5842 Firing her for that reason *is* illegal according to Federal Law, but corporations get around this by firing you for 'other' reasons. I guarantee you they have a clause in their employee guidelines that say something along the lines of not discussing job related information on social media. They know how to cover their asses against lawsuits.
Firing aside, bragging about your salary (or anything for the matter) on the internet is not something to look up to in the first. Pride comes before the fall
She wasn't bragging. She was celebrating. Let's be real, going from 70k to 90k is a big deal, you're going to celebrate. Social media is just how people do that, now.
@@toheeb07 I’m sure all the materialistic upper-middle-class young womans associated with unique vocal and California dialect features, from the Los Angeles commuter communities of the San Fernando Valley that she intended the video for were interested gtfo bro 😂
Nope. Don't broadcast your salary. You're not supposed to discuss that, let alone tell the world how much you make. You're asking for all sorts of trouble, not least risk of robbery.
Companies don't want you to make your salary public because someone in the same position with more experience can be earning less and since you switched you can be earning higher.
These young people have become so ignorant to the reality of privacy, and the fact that they display their lives on TikTok (and other social media sites), only to find out the consequences afterwards. Stop all this silliness, and keep your life private, and more importantly, don’t complain about later.
Salary Transparency is a thing. Let people earn money they deserve by their skill, not by kissing boss ass. There was a huge action in EU basically telling people to not answer job offers without given salary or telling employers to include salary in offer. It also include man and woman salary disproportion, in EU its on average 14%.
It is ILLEGAL for an employer to forbid you from discussing your pay with coworkers (protected action, right to organize) UNLESS that condition is specifically stated in your contract or NDA. I would file a complaint with the Department of Labor for wrongful termination. HOWEVER, if they can prove that she somehow violated their social media policy, she's screwed. Either way, I'd report it and let the lawyers hash it out
Yeah, but they can also just fire you because they don't like the color of your shirt. Only a moron would state that they're firing someone for an illegal reason. Just fire em with no cause. It's legal that way.
@@lancegardner8560 In what backwards country can you fire people for no reason? Maybe Im just used to the idea that employees are protected by the law from arbitrary whims of employers but this sure does sound illegal.
In the U.S. it's actually illegal for a company to tell you that you can't talk about your salary. It's one of the few ways to prove whether you're getting paid fairly or not. However, companies prefer you to not talk about it because it can cause drama. Like at my job I've worked 6 months less than my colleagues but I'm already making more than they are. I show up early, I work non stop without hiding in the bathroom or screwing around on my phone, I WANT to learn everything and I volunteer to do jobs that others don't want to. I've made myself an asset, instead of an employee. If I let others know they'd get pissy and probably say I only got the raises because I was white when the reality of it is, I got the extra money because I work my ass off.
Colorado follows the "at-will" employment law. Any employee can be fired for any reason as long as it's not breaking any rules on discrimination. If the boss didn't like the color of your new car, they could legally fire you.
@missmayflower "at-will" goes both ways, like a double-sided blade. Employees can also walk out of their job anytime they like. Unions are a different kind of balance, like a double-sided blade dipped both sides in very slow acting neurotoxin.
The salary transparency thing should be common because it ensures trust among workers, if someone does more work than the other pay them more, you don't have to hide it unless you have a unfair way of paying them.
no. it's also about the perception of an unfair way of paying them. there is of course no problem if the employees have good judgement, but that's not always going to be the case
its literally just her company that is scummy and doesnt want their other workers to know they are being paid less than half of what she is... like most companies
It's a policy here, too, but companies have managed to instill a sense of privacy about the topic as an alternative to outright disallowing it, since that would get them into trouble. It'll take a generation or two to fade away, unfortunately.
As a male HR manager, the majority of issues I deal with are the result of women being too focused on feelings and attention when they could've been working, or that they lie so much that they lose track of what lie / story they are currently operating under. I do not have personnel issues with male employee's except for the occasional workplace injury. You'd also be surprised to know that I have never had a male with a hygiene issue but I've had double digits of females that I had to tell to shower and use deodorant. Make women great again.
Companies don’t want employees discussing salaries mostly to prevent morale issues ove pay equity. Some people didn’t ask or negotiate for as high salary. Others may get bonuses for better performances. They might start drama because if there is a limited rise pool, more valued employees might get a higher percentage and participation trophey winners will complain about not getting paid the same for the same job when very few people benefit the company equally. I agree with the company on their assessment of her professionalism and maturity.
**It is unlawful for your employer to have a work rule, policy, or hiring agreement that prohibits employees from discussing their wages with each other, or that requires employees to get the employer's permission to have such discussions. Even informal, unwritten policies or practices, such as when supervisors urge employees not to discuss pay, are illegal under the NLRA. **In addition, if you communicate about your pay with other employes, is unlawful for employers to punish or retaliate against you in any way, or to interrogate you, threaten you, or put you under surveillance. If your employer violates the NLRA, you may file a charge against them with the NLRB .
Tips are NOT part of your salary; so it's really disingenuous to use this example as a way of showing people that maybe they're worth more than they're getting paid. People make better tips by being better at their job...or I guess, better looking, if you work at a place like Hooters. Also, two hundred and sixty something dollars isn't even that much money for a shift at Hooters. I made nearly that much (over $200) working the breakfast shift at Denny's in 2001; and I didn't even have to objectify myself to do it! I just had to be really good at my job!
so with Hooters girls making 260 a shift, plus the base hourly... that's more money than i do and i've a university degree and professional job... time to reduce our tipping when waitresses make more than i do.
Y do people think they should flex on the internet? In this case the girl gets fired in other instances people have been murdered because someone was so jealous of an individual after seeing their money, and possessions on social media. People need to learn to keep their personal assets off social media instead of flaunting it to make people envious. People are too crazy nowadays!!
The reason people don't reveal their salaries is primarily coz you don't want a queue outside your house of 'family and friends' asking for 'help'. The reason these kids are revealing is coz they are kids. And they too will learn this lesson.
I have noticed that if others hear about a bonus or a raise, they are suddenly broker and need help. Lol. Best to keep very quiet if you ever want to improve your life with your own merit
pfft, a lot of this is to make workers fight each other and even accepting lower wages than they should get. You're not supposed to be informed, if you are you might just as well fight for yourself and others
@@TheRealSyrett agree one guy asked me money for his entire sister marriage and I felt guilt for saying no . I stopped bragging after that lesson learned
I remember when you could research salaries on glassdoor and get a ballpark idea of what companies paid for certain positions. Then women started reporting their "salaries" and now it's a total crap shoot trying to figure out who is paying what where.
The NLRA still applies in at-will states, and employers cannot fire employees for salary discussions or any other protected activity. Termination for such a reason will still be considered an unfair labor practice and may result in legal action.Jan 18, 2023
"promoted to Customer" lol but yeah, People should share their salary for leverage against the company. Management shouldn't play favorites specially with the girl he F-ed in the restroom and fired for lol True story. They got caught by maintenance and also saw that he was giving himself and the girl insane pay raises.
Man, American companies are weird as hell, were I work everyone knows each other salary, even the top bosses. If this was in my country the company would be in deep trouble (if revealing the salary was the only reason she got fired).
