It's the raw humanity shown in this and other scenes that really make the show for me. Showing a very human reaction without feeling the need to spend large chunks of episode/s philosophizing and guilt-tripping over it.
@@AuthorDodgeMerrin They spent plenty of time showing guilt and regrets, but they didn't make perfect characters living in a perfect universe of black and white. Just people of different races doing the best they can.
While it's true in most regimes the majority of people are just going along with it out of fear. Once you reach the darkest depths of it that's where you find the people who live to serve and further its ideals. Those guards weren't misguided souls just following orders, they chose to be there and do what they do, do Sheridan mag dumping him? No moral debate to be had.
@@ReaverLordTonus definitely. The Clark regime certainly forced and often enslaved otherwise good people to do its bidding, but the willing collaborators and supporters made their choice.
The darn well always had 'em. One of the best examples is Be'lanna "operating" on the Doctors' emitter on the ep where they were on that "zoo" ship. Her tunic has the front pocket. The thing is that the openings are right at the "seam" so they do not stick out, though the rear pockets are horizontal ones at the break point for the top for the small phaser and communicator storage.
Apparently Doyle's costume pockets got sewn up at one point, because he'd always shove his hands in them during shots and JMS (or maybe one of the other directors) didn't like that. Doyle proceeded to just shove his hands into his armpits for a couple episodes, and they gave him the pockets back after that.
Actually the episode before this of Sheridan being interrogated is one of the most impressiv of the series and great performance of Bruce Boxleitner. That look he just gave Garribaldi, I never ever want anyone to look at me that way ....
Intersections on real time.. it was ironically the first thing i saw of B5 when i was a teenager.. didnt even knew what it was as there is no ships no space nothing..just a room and 2 person having a dialectic and moral duel
Funny how we all have different opinions , cause I thought the interrogation episode was the worst episode of season 4. It was such a change of pace from the rest of the season. Also it really annoyed me at the time when you were watching on tv and had to wait a week or more between episodes.
@@SiXiam What you call the interrogation episode was meant to show just how evil Sheridan's enemy was. Personally I find it deeply disturbing, but what stuck with me was they had no idea the harder they pushed, the more they proved Sheridan was right to oppose them.
I always loved this arc. And the way Sheridan was out of his gourd as he said he couldn't remember why he was going to kick his butt was hilarious. Thanks for the upload~! Also, a request. Could you post the scene from season 1 where Commander Sinclair was being interrogated via VR about the war? Specifically, the scene where he talks about the war and how he for years after the war, had to fight the urge to strangle a Minbari with his bare hands. It's powerful stuff. Thanks in advance if you are able to do that. 😉
I loved how they messed with Sheridan's head. This was like the time the Picard told the Kardashians there were 4 lights, only they didn't stop the torture.
OMG, I missed that scene! So much for revenge being served cold! But under the circumstances I'm not in any position to start throwing stones at John Sheridan.
I always feel bad for Garibaldi in this scene, he honestly had no real say in betraying Sheridan and is doing everything he can to make up for a mistake that was forced upon him. I'm glad that between episodes the two worked things out and Sheridan no longer blames Garibaldi for what happened and I know I'm in the minority but I do like that in Season 5 Ivanova was replaced with Lockly because Ivanova being made at Garibaldi because the psi corps mind raping him would have likely hurt her character beyond saving and while Lockly's Reasons were shallow it didn't do to much damage to her.
Technically Ivanova got written off because that was supposed to be the last season. By the time it got picked up, she’d moved on to another project iirc.
@@williambryant6175 nope. it was her wanting the same amount of money but less episodes…it was easier to replace her with someone entirely new than rewrite the season just to accommodate her demands
The story I heard was he got the role after being asked one question and he responded exactly like JMS thought Garibaldi would, so he gave him the job on the spot.
Some non-telepaths did learn ways to block them, but it required a lot of willpower and discipline so not very many had the ability and will to be good at it.
@@AuthorDodgeMerrin Yeah, but they could look up her information. What's the point of registering all telepaths if you don't put in basic facial recognition software in your secure areas to catch them.
@@koshi6505 that actually makes sense, and facial recognition for everyone who is entering as a whole: if that was in place Franklin and Garibaldi would have been never been allowed within a mile of Sheridan
@@davidback2144 self-reflection mate. Asking yourself "hey, why do I think the same things as the guy bought into the deeply bigoted fascist state propaganda, and what does it say about my environment that said propaganda is something that exists around me?" does wonders for the ability to not be a dick to people. Makes choosing to fuck with random people on the internet much more fun. But seriously, this entire show is a philosophy/politics intro thing, and all the stuff about Earth is a very specific "these are the red flags of a state veering into fascism" message. If you find yourself hearing or agreeing with the same arguments of the bad guys, this show is trying to tell you that that is actively evil and you need to put a stop to it.
@@nickmalachai2227 That is a spot on analysis, which included some decent advice. Maybe someday you will develop the presence of mind to take it yourself.
@@davidback2144 I have. It's why I moved away from the genuinely bigoted beliefs instilled in me since childhood and sought tolerance and understanding above all else. You know, the thing that's the opposite of hostility towards immigrants, dogmatic devotion to a cult revolving around so-called "traditional, home-grown, patriotic" ideology, and buying into conspiracy theories used as propaganda for the greater lateralization of power in fascist states. I'm not just making this shit up to have someone to be afraid of, I'm happy with not having anything to fear, I'm acknowledging the shit I see because I grew up in it and had to make the conscious choice to go "no, I refuse to believe hate, fear, and adherence to self-supremacy dogma are the good things and loving and understand others isn't."
babylon 5: a story about a group of rebellious alien collaborators who overthrow the legal government and install a semi-theological government ,modelled after alien examples.
1) The government was in charge, but it wasn't legal at all, having come into power through presidential assassination and outright genocide. 2) Alien collaborators implies humans helping aliens overthrow an elected human government, but it was aliens helping humans overthrow a fascist regime. 3) The new EA-Government was an elected one, modeled after human democratic standards. It's the Interstellar Alliance that was modeled after influences from several different species... as it should be for a multi-species organization.
@@sdfried4877 No to be fair nothing he says in wrong. The Goverment was legal. It was just evil and tyrannical. The group are infact a group of alien collaboraters. And they do install a semi-theological goverment modelled after alien goverments. (Which is made weirder by Valen being the Commander from season 1.) The only thing they got wrong was rebellious. Because they were successful which makes them revolutionaries. But otherwise everything they say is technically correct. Which is what makes it funny.
@@KeenanV yes, but then again he's also talking about ISN which is an arm of the fascist government. There's further irony because this was meant to point that out. But, these days the "liberal" media is exactly what he says and is increasingly fascist: censoring opposing views. I.E. fake news CNN.
@@jesseharper2357 I must admit that the irony had evaded me ... I must have watched this episode twenty times. Lyta's maneuver to obtain the code seems to focus most of my attention. Thanks.
@@davemiller6055 these are just two sides of one coin, both ideologies suck when taken to an extreme. They loose their meaning and power over us when we finally stop using the labels they created to divide us.
