Anche se è after, non sono d accordo. La voce è un po' impastata e vagamente tremula. Il paragone con gli acuti fermi e laminati di Bastianini è impietoso. È bravo, ma basta. Ettore B. È su un altro piano dove stava e rimane solo.
I wish today's baritones were undergoing a "vocal crisis" like Milnes supposedly was having around this time. He was truly great! I was there for this performance and I remember it very well. The place went nuts, myself included. Does anyone have this from the beginning of the act? It used to be here but apparently no more. Bravo, Maestro Milnes!!
I had to listen to this a second time as it just blew me away! I have modeled my own upper register and top-note vowel sounds on the way Milnes created his and found that I too could sing them with ease after doing so and so owe him a lot! I don't believe there has been a Verdi baritone in the 20th century quite as electrifying as this man and that includes Bastianini, Warren and Merrill and all the others. BRAVISSIMO!
But he's terrible... why would you want to model your upper register on his... he sings woofy and lacks chest voice. Not to mention his hideous dipthongs which don't exist in Italian. Watch and listen at 2:23, il NAOOME mio. So many people who have no clue commenting... Bastianini is also bad, why mention him among the greats. The only great one you mentioned is Merrill. DId you seriously just talk about great 20th century baritones without mentioning Ruffo, Stracciari, Danise, Granforte, Tagliabue, etc, etc? You, my friend, are clueless. Ruffo is on a class of his own, he's probably about 10,000 times better than Milnes.
@Barone Vitellio Scarpia I agree and love Warren and Merrill as well as Bastianini. Our overly knowledgeable commentator has his own opinions and is entitled to them, but yours and mine are somewhat of a parallel. Did you ever come across the LP a hundred years ago where Milnes and Domingo conduct each other and sing each other's repertoire? Milnes sang five tenor arias and Domingo sang five baritone arias. I was astounded at the ease with which Mr Milnes got his high C!
Today (Feb 25, 2012) I watched The Met's live HD broadcast of Ernani with Dmitri Hvorostovsky as Don Carlo. I love Dmitri. He's gorgeous and has a voice like buttah. But Sherrill Miles has been, and will always be, the best, most fantastic Verdi baritone. He rocked this piece. Dmitri did well today, but wobbled quite a bit, and didn't reach Milnes last high note.
If it will be written everywhere that somebody is a legend 90%of people will cry of extasy, even if singing is really bad. When Pavarotti was young and sang in the USSR nobody knew, that he is great, so the aplause was close to zero. But here, they knew allready that Milnes is a "legend", so the quality of singing was not important.
I have the „Grandi Voci” CD from Milness, the rendition of this aria on the Grandi Voci has more depth, more force and the ending is 100 times better….. So, yes, you are right!! Greetings
There is a soft and very beautiful orchestral conclusion to this aria after Carlo's last line. But alas - it is almost always drowned by the audience, who have nothing else on their mind than applauding loudly as soon as they can get away with it.
glad to see this reposted. but what I'd really like is the rendition found on the "Decca: Grandi Voci" series CD that Milnes made but which is unfortunately long out of print and near impossible to find. It includes this aria from much earlier in Milnes career and I'm sure he'd be in better vocal form.
I think he is using too much the chest voice, (do correct me if wrong), however he makes his way very good towards what the aria is supposed to mean, a King talking to himself about the majestic grandiosity of becomming the emperor of the world. And that acute La bemol at the end is like a big bang itself. Colossal.
Nice-some of the Milnes' problems apparent-but major league stuff-and the contrast to the recent Hvorostovsky-an elegant singer-but simply not on the scale of this, the sheer majesty of sound-however,Macneil is in even a higher realm when compared to this
I realize it has been a year since you posted, but this opera was filmed over three days back in Dec. of 1983. When Sherrill Milnes made his curtain call after the act was finished, you can hear numerous "thuds" caused by many people giving him a standing ovation and the folding seats are popping back in their upright position.
@@Vayou2023 Rispetto la sua opinione e il suo gusto. Per il conto mio antri Signori che appartenevano al passato glorioso loro erano dei Veri Baritoni Verdiani . I gusti sono solo dei gusti, a ognuno il suo… il vecchio PS Accanto ai Tenori tipo Ramon Vinay dal vivo Milnes aveva la voce del tenore corto. Questo per informarla … Ciao
@@lz43p15 Ed io mi sto chiedendo come Lei arriva ad apprezzare questo artista?! I gusti sono solo dei gusti, a ognuno il suo. Per il conto mio ho un’esperienza di più di 65 anni nella materia… Rispetto il suo gusto , è suo e a nessun altro . Ma quando un baritono sta interpretando il grande repertorio con una vocalità meno scura e meno pastosa dai Tenori che avevo sentito dal vivo per me personalmente c’è qualcosa che non va . il vecchio PS Vocalità severamente ingolata , purtroppo priva della bellezza artistica verdiana vera.
