Shipping a bus goes wrong 

When I had my bus's 6V92 completely rebuilt I requested a Landoll, and what's more one whose driver is familiar with buses. It took 30 minutes to load it, and less time than that to unload it, with no damage at all. Cheap it wasn't, but quality work never is.

the driver was sure kicking himself in the teeth right from the start, whishing he'd have never taken on the job.

I didn't know Doc Brown was driving a semi now. Last time i saw him he was driving a flying train.

Bill for the tow trucks will be more than the bus cost

might have gone better with a landoll trailer

it's in the right place now Scott, looking forward to following it's progress.

I’m a trucker myself, and have experience in oversized/heavy haul….yes, a Landoll tilt-bed trailer would’ve been preferable but this RGN isn’t necessarily “wrong”. The problem was in how it was loaded onto the trailer…and that’s on whoever was directing traffic in terms of how it was done. Long story short, you get what you pay for….

Man that’s the most hillbilly’d bus transport I’ve ever seen. I’d be concerned about their offspring. You were right it was the wrong trailer. Sheesh! No offense intended.

No doubt many of those who follow your excellent YT channel were shaking their head at this situation. Transporting this bus by tractor-trailer from VA to TN is approx. 750 miles. As you know, Landoll is an industry leader in ground loading trailers. There are other similar type makes as well. 5 to 60 tons. Deck lengths up to 53 ft. I've had countless buses moved over the years. A typical load / unload on to, off of a Landoll-type ground loading trailer is approx. 15 mins. Winch on, winch off. Taking 7 hrs, using 2 heavy lift recovery cranes is nuts. As reported, the bus owner here paid $3,000. for the cranes to load. I pay $0.00 for the roll on, roll off, load, offload. In addition, the bus owner paid $4,000. for the trucking, for a total of $7,000. Bottom line -- hire the right truck-trailer. The cost to transport this bus should have been around $3,000. all in. Not $7,000. As for the bus, I don't see it -- but that's another story. Thanks for showing us this. Keep up the excellent work Scott! What you do is special and important.

My dad got a Grayhound 1958 PD4104 with a 6-71 in 1972 from Grayhound minus wheels and tires for 9500.00. Picked it up in Louisville KY and drove it back to Dearborn MI. I was 11 at the time and me and my dad spent the next couple years converting it. Great memories and I learned a tone helping him. Added two roof AC units, Kohler 6500 watt 4 cylinder in the small bay behind the driver plus all the other stuff on the inside to make it a true motorhome. Took our first trip at the 6 month mark with just a pair of fold down seats and table (ones used to make a bed with the table removed) in the front and three fold down couches in the back with a toilet in the middle surround by a curtain on a rope. Went to NJ on the trip and sill have pictures of each person on the trip sitting on the toilet LOL... That was the days. Would get 9 to 9.5 MPG and with 140 gallon tank could go from Detroit to FL on one fill-up. Would hate to pay to fill it up with todays prices :(. Good to see another 4104 being fixed up.

For the money spent I’d have put on 4 tires on the back and have the truck tow it on the rears

Probably a Quartet Gospel Singing Group back in the day with the name "Four in Christ". Would love to know the history of the old bus.

Hmm. They have so much in it now that it's gonna be hard to NOT fix it. I feel bad for them.

That driver had no business taking that load. The wooden crib work would have side lined him if he had been inspected by the law! Wicked sketchy! Watch out with this bus owner. Too cheap shipping it, may lead to non payment of services. Great video!

Wow, that bus appears pretty clapped out, not sure it is worth the dollar amount just for the tow. That looks like one hell of a big project, for such a beat up bus.

You can BET that if it's a PAIN in the A$$ to Load - it's going to be JUST AS BAD trying to UNLOAD! DEFINITELY the WRONG trailer! It looks like that bus is going to turn into a Long-Term Make-Work project........

Nice bus but definitely some work 2 get it there, but yall killed it unloading it... looked way better than the loading

Odds are high that the owner will abandon what is now a piece of junk in your yard. If it didn’t drive in…. You shouldn’t take it in.

Is this the start of one of those "We bought the cheapest Bus on Facebook" videos?

well, that was unpleasant to watch. they got it to the right guys though.

My dad bought a running '68 GMC Silverside bus for $4500. I couldn't imagine paying $3K for just towing and have all that damage done. That is unfortunate.

These busses are getting quite rare. Once it fires up again and rides and stops it is quite a valuable bus. Excited to see it being revived.

So Scott ,if you were tasked to load and move these buses,how would you do it ? Longer trailers, extension type low bed (specialist) Ideally it should or could be picked up using the wheels and obviously the spreader bars of the Rotator truck or crane ,Ron Platt from midwestern towing has lifted buses up by the wheels . Obviously there maybe more buses coming to you this way ,I would open up your gates and entrance so the trucks have more room to manoeuvre. Be nice if they could back in ,if the gates were twice the width that they are now .and have you considered an old truck to tow these buses up the hill ?or bulldozer with a winch ?

It will be interesting to hear the history of this bus. It must mean something special to the owners having spend so much on transport fees. ✌️Peace.

Hope you can locate all you need to get the bus going again. 👍

So, they moved the Smokey Mountains along with the bus? I can’t wait to see the finished product!👍🏻👍🏻

I don't understand why you haven't purchased mikes that you can use to talk with the drivers instead of using a 3rd person. How many times would two-way mikes have come in handy? It is what it is, but just seems very inefficient to me.

If anyone wants old buses like this, I've seen roughly 45 of them sitting on Hwy 52 between Rochester and Mpls MN.

The thing bus owner nightmares are made of. My objective is to spend the money on my bus to maintain it so it never needs a tow.

Never should have loaded on that trailer!.... The trucker should have asked for measurements and known it wouldn't work before ever rolling to the job...

Nice to see the truck driver channelling Kris Kristofferson there.

Two HD tow trucks, and a flat bed service, the owner must be $10k into it before you turn a wrench. Ouch.

Another classic to save. I love those old buses, I remember traveling on the Greyhound and the Continental buses back in the 70's and 80's. Many well wishes good people.

They would have saved themselves a lot of time headache and money.... If they just cut the wood and screwed it together to make a proper ramp for the steps on the deck....

The tow trick brought you 1 project but brokedown and needed you expert grease monkey skill too

THATS GOING TO BE ONE HECK OF A PROJECT! GOOD LUCK!

ABSOLUTELY-----> AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!. 🙂

The curse of the large toys is the cost of transporting them. I wish the people involved would have been more knowledgeable, it would of kept prices lower and damages to a minimum.

A real shame about the damage but im sure you guys will fix it. Ref the bill for two trucks, the way i see it its the towing companies fault that they needed two trucks in the first place. They then damaged your bus. I wiuld have paid for one truck minus the damage caused. All the best to you from the UK❤.

That's the exact trailer you need just longer and they only know what the owner tells them, but there is extra wraps for those lowboy trailers we used them to haul are Pavers. Love the videos 😁

Wow~I didn't Know I could Hold My Breath so Long...! 😲

...somebody has more money than brains...

Yes, unfortunate things did happen during transport, but... what a very cool bus! Wow!

Ahh, just like the “good old days” when you and Kelly would go to different places to take on the hopeless. Well, not just like because Lenny isn’t in the scenes. Sort of just like the good old days

I cannot wait to see the repair bill on this one. Sincerely hoping there won't be a mechanic's lien in its future...

I bet that truck driver was happy to get that bus off his trailer!😆

That bus should have gone on either a stretch rgn or a Kalyn Siebert low step deck/oil field trailer (that are specifically made to transport coaches and buses)

guy who dropped it off looks like he is still mad at bud light

0:14 semi style tow truck which is called a wrecker U ment brother!

That apparently is the correct trailer type, but simply the incorrect size.

So The $64,000 question is can you fix it and can it be fixed for under $1 million

The old girl certainly is in a bad way, but she's in the bus hospital now and if anyone can bring her back you & your team can Scott..xx

I'll bet the owner wishes he had called Scott for towing advice first. That's a lot of money just to get it there, and fixing the towing damage will cost even more. I sincerely hope the owner is committed to repairing the bus and has the money to do it. I used to drive a 4104 for a college choir and have a lot of memories made looking through that big windshield.

Should have have paid you the 7k to come out and get it aired up and running on site... now they have a damage bus and stil have to do all that work anyway.

I'm from Europe and those US tractor units look so long compared to our cab-over type. They must be quite a handful on rural tracks and twisty roads.

Love this type of bus. I’m glad it’s with you, it arrive not working but leaves in time in working order. Looking at this bus, I feel that this going to need a lot work to get it running! Deep pockets !😊

Must have shipped on Uship. Cheapest bidder wins

What a hackjob from that transporters.. Gee...

The pin up girl is suiting, it appears her ars is on fire. 😂

Crack is a hell of a drug.🤣

Wow, that was quite the load job. And infested too. Needed a little more experience on the tow crew. Nice job getting it unloaded. That driver look "rode hard and put away wet". Bummer about the ticket just trying to get some sleep. It's in a good place now. Let the repairs commence.

That is one tired, tired, bus. I hope the new owner didn't pay more than $5K for it. I'm not sure it is even worth that.

You should totally hit up Taylor Ray, he's a RU-vid drifter that just bought a vintage car hauler/rv bus and is a bit worried about having something go wrong on a trip because he recently bought a almost brand new f-350 to haul his previous trailer and it broke down on him during a trip. So he bought the bus, but in the comments was saying he was worried about having to work on it if something went wrong. I figured you would be the best person to put his mind at ease and maybe give him a few tips! Would be a sick collab.

Love this, but all I thought about watching this is how the truck driver's dog was doing.

I remember looking at a really nice fully functional RV converted 4014 for $10,000. I guess those days are long gone. I like the tachograph on the dash. Looks like it's straight from bus service, aside from the band name up top.

Truck driver looks almost as old as me....😁😁

When you have a larger tractor, you can get into larger sticky situations!

Oh boy, so 3 trucks to tow in total? What a project. Have fun fellows.

A lowboy, 2 tow trucks, one being a heavy boom crane took 7 hrs to load. There's so many crimes in that. I would have had it loaded in under 2 hrs without a tow truck.

That was an interesting video. Thanks so much.

Nice tractor work, unloading. The driver looked like quite a character. Wonder if he was a Hatfield or a McCoy?

Well I can say he’s definitely brought it to the right place! 🇦🇺🍺🍺

I’m sure you will give it the care it deserves now it’s in the right place to be sorted 👍 And after all the problems he had, at least the driver didn’t just drop it and run and helped guide it into its temporary home whilst you make a start on it

Paying that much money for a tow. Someone else is paying for the shipping damage. If the tow truck operator was any good. He would of refused to load it and requested a better lowboy. He just took the dollars and was outta there.

Whomever called it as VA appears to be correct. The inspection sticker mounted to the center of the windshield is the old format and location for VA. Only recently has VA gone to the lower left corner like most states. And we still have ANNUAL safety inspections.

What an unfortunate disaster and nightmare. Too bad nobody knew what they were doing. Lots of expensive mistakes. And what's so special about a PD 4104? They're a dime a dozen. Personally, I wouldn't be bothered with one. I'd rather collect rare buses like I have. I have a 1939 Mack, a 1945 Ford Transit, a 1946 White 798 suburban with a 12 cylinder underfloor gasoline engine, a 1947 Brill, Marmon Herrington coaches from 1949 through 1955, a 1947 Pullman-Standard, a 1951 Fageol Twin Coach with an underfloor gasoline engine, a 1947 Yellow Coach TD-4008, a 1953 TDH-5106, and others. Yes, they await and need restoration work, but they exist.

I would have at least tried to somehow artificially reinforced the rear axle during shipping (if I’m thinking 🤔 on the right wavelength, or not). I would have avoided the drastic measures that the tow truck 🛻 driver was trying, causing the additional damage to the rear end. Your friend, Jeff.

Dozing or blasting those two boulders obstructing the road up the hill wouldn't be a bad thing. $7000 in transportation costs means someone must be closely attached to that bus.

Rotators can be $1,000 to 1,500 per hour. That was an expensive loading.

It isnt just the purchase price of an old worn out bus that one pays. Non operating bus must ALSO be relocated to a willing and capable repair facility for additional cost. I'm sure the buyers knew this when getting into it.

That driver is funny ..

My question is dew to the expense of moving ... Will it be worth the money to put into it when its done? (and I have been know for putting to much in and losing in the long run) lol such is life... love your videos thx for sharing...

How does a "towing" company with equipment like that not have a Landoll??? But when your #1 ace driver looks like he just came from the soup kitchen...........

I hope and pray that I never need a tow. At least it's at the right place now, I know you guys will get done, what needs to get done, and who knows, this may turn out to be one heck of a bus, when the owners get done with it. Good luck to all 😎

I remember looking at a really nice fully functional RV converted 4014 for $10,000. I guess those days are long gone. I like the tachograph on the dash. Looks like it's straight from bus service, aside from the band name up top.

A landoll or equivalent. Maybe a asphalt paver style I think Landdoll and trail king both make a lowboy just for busses. You can RU-vid it to verify. Approach and departure angles Inter and outer are SO important to Know when rigging the load.

Oh boy , gotta love that bus to go through all that ☮️

Very very cool bus…. Tough trip, but at least it’s in the right place now. Let’s just hope they didn’t blow their budget on towing and can fund the resurrection.

Braver than I fixing that one, all the best with the project.

I have hauled several on a lowboy. No issues. Last one i did cost me $500 for tow truck at that time. It was boom boom. 20 to 30 minutes.it was on the trailer. Granted for this one.. idk how much the rear was binding up. Giving them issues. Or how they were trying to load it. Im betting super short steep step the rear had to climb to gst ass up was part of issue. When i did mine i had 10ft boards for ramps. Small incline that stepped up to height i needed.

I’m just shaking my head. This setup is a joke.

Sounds like that shipper took lessons from UPS on how to destroy things!

More money than sense is very appropriate here I'd say. Spend big and end up with an old bus.

Whatever you do....Don't let any Blue Beacon Management see that boulder in the driveway....prolly get a copyright strike for that.

Boy oh boy. If that was my bus I'd be pissed. I have a 40' MCI MC8. I also have two semi trucks. I'm considering buying a trailer to haul the bus on too. Just in case.

The driver should have known he needed a longer lowboy to take that bus, they make them with 40’ flat decks if not longer. It comes down to not accepting loads you can’t take….although once the contract is signed you’re done so if the owners have bad dimensions and the driver didn’t verify them, then really morally speaking they’re both wrong. That’s one reason I’d never book a load through UShip unless I lived close enough to inspect it myself or it was something that was obviously short enough to not be an issue. If it’s within 6 feet of what you can haul, it’s best to verify it yourself.

I hope you have a decent deposit for your future work

a good load team makes a world of a difference.. glad it wasent worse

So if it’s a detachable neck, why are they using a rotator? Personally I would have used a rollback trailer, I think landoll makes one. Of course they are not particularly common, and fairly expensive. After all the damage is settled, maybe a long distance wrecker would have been less expensive.

*I have a question,* I own a very rare 1943 GMC Yello safari tour bus 1 of only 7 made and the only one known left in existence. Does anyone have any suggestions where I should list it for sale?