Shocking Airbus A320 Crash In Pakistan - The Full Story of PIA Flight 8303 

I mean it shouldn't be funny considering but still 😂

And that's the magic of comedy! Being able to laugh which helpes talking about serious matters... That comment is funny! 👉😜💨 Anyway, best wishes to all decent people from Prague, Czech republic!

Me enjoying too much this comment, but also have to mention, I have nothing personal against pakistani airlines. (I am Tarom airways experienced passenger, this happens to me once when was a child) @@Zyo117

PIA:- Sounds like a you problem, noob!

@@Gotcha6666 U silly Cun*s wudnt be laughing if a member of your family had been on that flight I reckon ....

Very true!

@@CuriousPilot90 Thank you for the video. AFAIK this is the most detailed recreation on the RU-vid.

I appreciate that. I took a while to make. I was waiting for the final report to be released which was released last month so all the facts can be shown!

And we all think their Doctors are qualified 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

Even the pilots themselves

Understood the mistakes and ignorance by pilots caused many innoceny deaths but saying this single incident because of once incompetency defines over all Pakistan is not correct! if its like that than there are too many events that describes America, Europe and other world countries.. so making conclusions on one is just inappropriate..

@@syedfaraz9626 Sir, Pakistan’s every sector including health, education, judiciary, bureaucracy, aviation and state is corrupt and incompetent. Unlike, European and North American counterparts.The first step for correction is the realization that there is a problem.

Yes 💯

This IS Pakistan. A country being run by fools and thugs.

@@ibafaisalmehdiby that logic america has failed to provide universal healthcare does that make them failed?

I’ve worked aviation in the Middle East for close to 15 years, so I can tell you with 100% certainty that the laws of Islam absolutely allows you break your fast while traveling, and that certainly applies to flight & cabin crews. The Quran spells out that you can make up the fasting days at a later date, and the majority of Muslim flight crews do not fast on days with long flights. It’s Ramadan right now, and I see this scenario at work daily.

The more pressing issue is that the pilots likely falsified all or most of their flight hours on the types that they were flying. It's a Pakistani cultural problem that needs to be addressed. Most Arab carriers have the same fasting pilots but don't have this problem because they don't fake their flight hours.

I don’t think planes existed back when Islam was founded for them to think of this

It’s about the act of traveling, not any specific mode of travel, in relation to the physical demands of traveling in the ancient world, ie. walking, riding an animal, a sail or oar powered boat. Once you surpassed a certain distance (translations vary, but around 50-ish miles), you are exempt from fasting in order to keep your strength up for the duration of the journey.

If only if it is dangerous. Short haul pilots over in the region where I'm in, Maritime Southeast Asia (Malaysia, Indonesia, etc), Muslim pilots will fast. Even flights that are around 6 or 7 hours, they would fast. The issue becomes if they don't have the strength to do it. For most healthy and fit people, this is not an issue because they can still operate things just fine, especially if they shift their diet slightly. The biggest thing is managing fluids since they can't consume anything until sunset, but again, not a big deal. If one is actually competent at their jobs, then a slight loss of strength and focus due to hunger won't be such an issue.

Yes Islam allows during flights not just for pilots also for passengers

AMEEN

How is it possible for any survivals?? The plane had exploded killing everyone on board instantly??

There were 2 survivors. One was a common man and other was the president of bank of Punjab. ​@@shaukat321ify

Thanks Carlos, I can’t talk for my civilian counterparts but logbooks are used, both in paper and electronic forms. This is summarised each month and checked and confirmed correct.

I thought Ramadan fasting doesn't apply if you need to travel anyway?

Who has the highest authority? PIA or Allah?

@@wollaminfaetter I heard it from my muslim friend that if you have something of high priority and that require good mental and physical health you can be exempted from fasting.. but life of 100 people is not the reason to leave your fast.. Allah won't forgive you.. People who believe in Allah kills 1000 people in his name and honor.. how dare you degrade allah's name by breaking your fast for mere 100 people.. Blasphemy 🙃🙃

I agree with your criticism

India don't burn dead body not allowed

LMFAO

@@Mshi- jesus was not killed nor jesus was crucified

BRUH

On 24 June, 2020, Pakistani aviation minister Ghulam Sarwar Khan told Parliament that 262 of Pakistan's 860 active, licensed pilots had been found to have suspicious or fake licences. They were suspected of having paid someone else to take their certification examination on their behalf. PIA subsequently grounded 150 of its 434 pilots on suspicion of having a bogus license.

I´ll raise you LaMia 2933. Attempting a flight knowing you don´t have enough fuel BEFORE you take off was even worse.

Same thing in Canada many Indian/Pakistani Truck drivers don't really know to drive.@@TheGrimStoic

Not if you are looking forward to virgins in the after life. This was an all muslim flight.

As an IT Engineer, our country has had a lot of Pakistani immigrants come to our country who all seem to be IT Engineers! Anyway a new team of IT Engineers were made for a very popular world known IT business, that I also began with at the time. Whilst helping clients in remote Desktop stuff (all the usual IT common knowledge). One of the Pakistani IT guys with a claimed Masters in IT (definitely above my qualifications) asked me: _How do I open Control Panel_ ? 'Control Panel' would have to be the most basic of basic things to know! Its like a plumber asking: How do I connect pipes together? Or: Where do I find pipes in a house? I quickly informed him (as he was still doing Remote Desktop to his client. And then asked: What exactly are you going to do in Control Panel anyway? He said he was going to check the User's password. I said: You don't do that in Control Panel, we do that in Active Directory! (these thigs are like the most basic No1. thing any IT tech learns). Over the next few days I listened on to his 'assistance' with clients. He would actually say: Give me password now! Whilst its true IT Engineers may require User passwords (if we don't reset them). We NEVER say: _Give me password now_ Since, that's not how assisting people speak. My Manager was also Pakistani, and I think they made a mistake hiring me who actually knew IT stuff. As it was beyond obvious these new team members had never done an IT course in their life. Suffice to say we lost the contract! Only myself and my team lead stayed for another 2 weeks, then we had to leave too. Since 'the team' completely messed up the entire contract! Pakistani 'IT Engineers' continue to be the main IT people in my city. Their manner (on phone < always) still seems to be the same. Little knowledge, extremely rude, and racist against me the country of origin.

Is anyone really surprised that such could occur in Pakistan?

Believe it or not, this is actually pretty impressive piloting for PIA or Air India!

Okay, Air India is better than p.I.A​@@GuyNamedSean

*that the typical attitude of Pakistani mentality every one thinks they understand better in this case air control warm them go around but they refused it that's the series breach it's not happened first time when pilot refused obeyed ATC*

​@GuyNamedSean bitch please air india is a kickass airline.

And I’m sure their blood sugar was extremely low not having eaten all day. How ridiculous.

Those idiots could not even take an order from ATC to do an orbit, this beggars belief these idiots put religion and egos ahead of their responsibilities.

and being pakis

@@bicivelo i would like to make it clear that fasting is not required while traveling so these pilots decided on that on their own

@@bicivelo Fasting doesn't hinder comprehension or judgement. Even if it did, the crash and actions of pilots leading to it happened within 5 hours after they started fasting. And the flight was very short. So fasting wasn't a factor here

did you just insinuate that pilots and crew deserved to die? After being out of work from the pandemic, and fasting during ramadan, isn't it fair to assume such an accident is more likely? thinking that people deserve to die... I dont know man. thats just weird

@@_e8a Consequences, they ignore all the procedure and suffer the consequences. Your pity and mercy, wont help a thing. Even the supreme beings on the top cant help them

​@@_e8ano, this incident is not likely at all. There are a lot of fail safes in place in an aircraft. Even the ATC told them. They decided to deliberately ignore the multiple instructions and warnings given to them by various different parts in the system that lead to this horrific outcome

Its not surprising considering the fact that the pilot had originally failed his psyche evaluation and was deemed to be bossy, quick to anger, unable to cope with stress, and crucially, he was noted to have below average intelligence, with no mechanical or spatial awareness or comprehension. How the hell this man was allowed into a cockpit, beggars belief, until you factor in the rampant corruption, nepotism and pandering to deluded male egotism and pride within pakistani society and civil administration.

I was thinking the same thing lol. I remember vividly when my grandfather was getting his pilots license 20 years ago, I was 7 and would play with his flight sim he used to train with, I think it was an early Microsoft one, and when I was 14 I would repeatedly do touch and goes with a 747 on his flight wheel, not even a stick, and had no issues with cross winds and heavy rain. This whole event was baffling, especially the lack of call outs between the pilots.

@@Shadow_Fingered Reminded me of the days I used to play fsx on 8 frames per second when I was 10yrs old in 2006 🙂 Your grandad must have had a sick gaming setup for its time because flight simulator x at least was extremely heavy on the PC.

India don't burn dead body not allowed

​@@Shadow_FingeredIndia don't burn dead body not allowed

@@REBECCA12341 ... What does that have to do with the price of rice?

Varig 254

Thank you very much, I’m glad it shows!😁

Thankyou for the extra sssss

😳!

Im glad you were okay!

Twilight zone experience lol 😂

Great...bw honestly do you or your family wear seatbelts while travelling to Lahore byraod? Reply on your kids swear...

@@MrGladiator82what has that got to do with anything?

Right ... Completely ridiculous!

he might not be egomaniac but yeah he was probably nuts or out of practice

@@kabirsingh5502It's completely egomaniacal to insist on the ridiculous approach, to completely ignore ATC, to exclaim "they'll be surprised", and to play around with the lives of passengers and crew members, treating it like some sort of game. RIP to everyone but the pilots.

It's probably best they try without paying passengers! This just accident just blows my mind 😮

​@@Stephanie-we5epIndia don't burn dead body not allowed

​@@GuitarRyder11India don't burn dead body not allowed

Dog not allowed ect

@@REBECCA12341 ? When did I say anything about that??

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@@spot997 At least, she know her capabilities unlike these 2 knobhead pilots

Nothing professional about these two.

*can i ask why pilots have tunnel vision or wear horse blinkers that they CANNOT see what the other pilot is doing or lack peripheral vision ?*

Sensory overload

It was covid protocol being observed---covid masks on fulltime.

professionals.??..they are maniacs..PIA has been banned & black listed from all European operations..because they're crazy...disregarding basic safety flight rules relying on 'allah' & goats to fly with invalid pilot license. 

Poor eardrums of literally everyone...

Thank you, that’s very kind. Without failing into the pilot cliche… even if I go there more than willingly… yes, yes I am a pilot. 😁

@@CuriousPilot90 😂

Better idea would be to simply avoid going to that country.

@@GuitarRyder11they train people? Could have fooled me!

@@richardmartin7824my brother-in-law has been several times with school trips (as a teacher of geography). He says the people are really nice - but nice doesn’t cut it in aviation. I’d rather have a taciturn, grumpy pilot who was a pilot, than a friendly, jovial fake.

Sadly this is not the only Pakistani crash where Inshallah is heard in the CVR. Anyone has the right to believe whatever they want, but when they rely on their God (rather than their skills) to bring them down safely... this is exactly what happens.

Well that's what Allah wants...so...

😂😂😂😂😂

I think He lost patience with that crew.

@@Dilley_G45 God=Allah made the rules governing this universe, follow them and succeed, deviate from them and such incidents happen. But you have all the right to be stupid and say stupid things.

Even if the speed was down or less than required, I think the oil and remaining fuel would catch fire. Not to mention flights that werent that fast have rolled and shredded before

They're the ones with fake credentials. They are the people of Pakistan.

You reap what you sow. Pakistan is a mess. No surprise they be capable of this.

They don’t . This is the product of a completely dysfunctional culture.

No Pakistan doesn't deserve better. 99% of Pakistan is rotten to the core. There is corruption in every corner of the country. From judges to generals and bureaucrats to cops and fruit vendors to average Joes on the street are all out to cheat and deceive each other.

There were NO fake licenses--only a brain dead Aviation Minister--who himself had a fake degree. The crash was due to the effect of fasting and flying that I banned more than 30 years ago. Two idiot pilots do not represent the majority of PIA pilots, any more than the copilot who crashed the German Wings aircraft represented his airline pilots.

I don't think malaysian airlines has had such an incident after the MH370 thing, has it?

@@deeptanshubhowmik5073 yeah Malaysian airline is cool... But that MH370 incident still allures me a lot and also it is made clear in mentour pilot video that the plane was intentionally deviated by someone who is capable of flying it and crashed it in Indian Ocean the only question I have is.. why ? what were his intention.. committing suicide with 200+ people.. what was he trying

Beacues you are such a big loser

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That's a Muslim country for you. Nepotism and corruption.

They fly to Canada though

@@sujay162 Canada itself is quickly becoming a country of clowns. So it's not surprising.

In Pakistan aviation overall...from the country that helped Emirates get off the ground to this. (Emirates' first plane was a brand-new Pakistan Boeing 737-300.)

@@GuitarRyder11 you are triggering my non-inclusivity anxiety sir 😂

😂😂😂😂

Not all. Most of them have licenses so don’t assume all have no licenses you ideoit

Print one from ol' Print Shop program.

Do you have any proof?

Pakistan also brings so called truck drivers to north america to drive. Also many with invalid licenses. Seen many of them when i was trucking

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Do you have more information on that Ethiopian flight like a flight number? I’m unable to find anything to support that claim. The closest thing that comes to mind is Nationair 2120 which crashed due to a landing gear fire in Saudi Arabia. On the air disasters episode, there were mentions of passengers traveling with fire pits, but it had nothing to do with the crash.

​@@Clipper1094 the only time i can think of where passengers started cooking fires on board a plane was during the Vietnam war when the cia run 'Air America' was flying weapons, medical supplies etc, rescuing downed pilots & moving various tribal armies around Laos & Thailand. Once, when one plane (I think a C-123) was helping evacuate tribesmen & their livestock and they started a cooking fire in the back cargo area (but it was a cargo plane, during war, with tribesmen from the deep jungle, some who had never seen a plane before. Unfortunately the only source is an actual book called "Air America: The Story of the CIA's Secret Airlines" by Christopher Robbins (It's a really good book too. I can't believe some of the crazy things those pilots did!)

Actually that sounds like Saudia 163...the plane where even though it landed, no one survived.

Lmao 😂

It also demonstrates how archaic religious practices have no place in today's modern, industrialised society, where fast-paced, complex systems and machines operate 24/7 and don't give a crap about your religious rituals. Be fit to fly, or don't bother. Religion is no excuse for poor performance and taking unacceptable risks.

Sir can u list major mistakes made by the pilots? I watched this videos a week ago with headache so i couldn't consentrate properly

​@@alanp805i made a list of mistakes of pilots and ATC communication while watching this video but now i can't remeber much😅

And i don't want to watch the video again😅 so if you remember please consider helping

This is actually a very valid point, thank you.

Seriously foreign pilots are garbage. Your engine is dying but you want to continue back to 25l and shoot an instrument approach when you need to IMMEADIATELY DO A 180 AND LAND VISUAL ON RWY 7R EVEN WITH A TAILWIND. LIKE WHAT IN THE FAX

I was thinking the same thing that the water landing would have been a better option.. (cause these pilot don't use gears and landing in water may not even requires gear) Also I don't believe that only 1 person dies on land cause of the crash.. I believe the Govt. hid the true death poll cause of backlash

Same here! It took a while for the final report to be completed and released. Finally we can see what events led up to this incident. I’m glad you enjoyed the video.

Well that would have been a nightmare for passengers just because one has 0 awareness Rest In Peace😏🙂‍↕️

I agree that this was a good video. It's my first time seeing Curious Pilot. I look forward to seeing more of his but wanted to let you know about Montour Pilot. He does beyond amazing videos explaining plane crashes. youtube.com/@MentourPilot?si=9eP76JvFSCAlIs95

It boggles my mind absolute sheer stupidity. I cannot believe two people just decided to land at 240kts with no gears down or flaps. Like what was going on? Do they think they're driving a car?

I really appreciate that, thank you!

What's the time duration after it becomes effective? 5 hrs? 8hrs? It was not the fasting but total stupidity and lack of concentration .

Thank you so much, fantastic to hear it!

I second this!

As per a reply to another comment about this - there are leeways in Islam to allow travellers not to fast, amongst other things. There's not really an excuse for their complete lack of airmanship, it's jawdropping.

Some pilots do the 5/2 fasting diet

How about this. Nobody should ever be under any pressure to do anything religious, ever.

The fight was in 2019 and took place in coach class.