Good to see James again. I do have a tip for him (never thought I would type that) for marking the metatarsal, I use chalk, wipes off with a damp cloth and faster than the tape method he uses.
Contrary to what James said, the latest Bont tutorial recommends to stand in the shoes, while they cool off. It would also be great to know, if one should carry out the molding with the original Bont insoles, our the ones, one intends to wear later, for example the famous G8.
i bought some new sp ares to replace my sworks 6. Only focused on angle of cleat and ignored fore/aft from where my 6's were. Blew my calfs up after a week, so important to get that right as you said
Can't wait for my bike fit with James booked 27/08 , all my issues are foot & knee so any improvement will be good , as always Lawrence great content 👍
Phil Ellis , yeah would agree from what I watch on RU-vid , it was booked for Easter but travel restrictions prevented me traveling from North East , thanks for replying 👍
@@jirihutecka9020 moved the cleat position.. i used to have them at the front of the shoe. James pushed them as far back as they go. Felt slightly odd to start with but I love it now.
@@alstuart8801 Interesting that you didn't tried different position before bike fit when there was a problem? I knew almost instantly with my first shoes where the cleat should be. So as far back as they go and it was still not enough..
From personal experience when I cycle with a cleat placed "too far forward" it felt weightless and a little concerning as I couldn't judge my own input. So for that reason alone I run them as far back as I can.
It's funny as I'm in Australia and Bont are still very much in the race scene but I seldomly see guys in bunch rides wearing Bont. I haven't tried the shoes but at some point I'd like to as I like the styling. James looks ten years younger after his shave haha.
that's because it's more profitable for shops the sell Specialized, Bontrager, etc. Half the NRS uses them which should tell you something about performance over looks/ marketing
I like the concept. Best suited for people who need some custom fitting. Would not be for anyone who doesn't want to spend the time or money on a custom fit. If you ride alot it definitely would be a good investment.
I use a metatarsal ridge on my insoles to promote my feet to splay out. This solved the hotspot on my little toe after years of pain. By molding your shoe to your foot would seemingly prevent my feet from fanning out, curious if I develop issues using Bont's? I do enjoy visits to James' shop!
My right foot is bigger than the left. Right Vaypor S fits a treat. Left foot rattles about in there like a marble in a biscuit tin. No amount of moulding has been able to rectify that ☹️
@@alexmalone6014 I’ll be honest. I didn’t even know that was a thing. Thanks. However, I have long promised myself a post lockdown treat and as soon as circumstances permit I am going to book a bike fit and shoe fit at Richmond.
Confused. Isn't Bont a generally wider shoe? But wasn't there a video from a few years ago where Lawrence was getting fitted with Sidi shoes, which run narrow, and James told him somehow just by a stroke of luck, he had chosen shoes that fit just right for his feet?
I am this many years old (60+) before hearing the 15-20mm measurement behind the first metatarsal bone. I am marking up my shoes and going for a spin. What does James say about setting up cleat angle? Any tips for us home fitters?
Bont are the best, love them! Super cool. Especially their custom shoes which those of us with super wide feet. But the heat moulding over promises, I have never been able to get any adjustments from the heat moulding. Bont recommend 70degrees, after discussion with them they suggested going up to 90degrees, but still nothing. I therefore think the heat moulding is just marketing BS. But still love them despite this.
@@alexmalone6014yes yes I have read all this online info. I have had several pairs of custom Bonts over the years. I have discussed moulding directly with Bont and followed their suggestion to increase the temp by +20 degrees. But still nothing of note. No change at all. Don't get me wrong they are great shoes. But the moulding is over hyped and negligible impact.
Hey mate, super confused about your experience and certainly not what I experienced what so ever. When taken out the oven they were very supple and felt almost completely custom.
Can I be special? I have my cleat as far forward as possible. A regular size foot, 41. Now when I turn my front wheel al the way with my pedal forward the wheel and shoe touch. If I pushed my cleat further back then it would touch more. Is that normal? Because we don't turn are wheels that much when riding? Also I have a high, my own and some others opinion, arch. Any way my feet and leg feel good, but yes I do get a mild numbing after a while some times. So am I special or just stubborn and I should back my cleat position off? I've only been using cleatted shoes for a couple of years so it all feels new. Though with out cleats I ride even more on my toes. I've probably always been riding a bike to big for me my whole life so riding on my toes feels normal or am I special and it could be because of my high arches? When is James going to get his own channle?
I had a set of Bonts... they looked great... the fit though was woeful. Going through their web fit they said a standard was what I needed... oh my word... crushed toes - just couldn't get the shoes wide enough even with the heat setting. Great shoes, they look cool... don't trust their web advice!
@@matkrek Thank you for the feedback, I tried about 8 times and wore the thinnest socks I could source... when you take your feet out of them and your toes keep crossing for the next 4 days (all be it after a 400km ride) I would suggest thin socks isn't the right solution... :) I sold them anyway and got a pair of Shimano GRX... they are better but still a bit of a work in progress.
@@matkrek All of the shimano shoes that come into New Zealand are the wide fit, we have wide feet so yes, it's the wide fit (E fit). They are a little snug but not as bad as the Bonts were. I'm working through cleat position and foot beds. My preference foot bed wise is the original ones for these shoes. I think I'll be putting some coin aside for a pair of Lake
@@markjthomson i had lakes and they were great in the wider width. Have you gotten a bike fit before since usually it is better to have the cleat all the way back and just work on the overall fit. The bike fit Tuesday serious is great on Francis Cade’s channel
@@bbikerlawrence I only ride Mtb and gravel, white shoes and dayglow shoes only! For the wet stuff, shoe covers! There seems to be some strange misconception about black shoes, that they dont get dirty???
