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Shoeless Joe Jackson his life and historic locations 

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We travel to Greenville, SC to get a better idea on just who Shoeless Joe Jackson was and get a glimpse of the locations that shaped his life and the places he lived and worked post his MLB career.
Shoeless Jackson is considered one of the greatest Major League Baseball players of all time and his impressive career was cut short in his prime. Caught up in a World Series throwing scandal he was banished from baseball in 1919.
We visit the following:
1. Fluor Field: Home of the Greenville Drive and host to a Jackson statue.
2. The Shoeless Joe Jackson Museum and Library.
3. The Shoeless Joe Jackson Memorial Park
4. The former Joe Jackson Liquor store
5. The grave of Shoeless Joe

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@SpaceHCowboy
@SpaceHCowboy Год назад
From a longtime Scottish baseball fan. Thank you for this video. Bless you 🙏🏼
@PassingOnThrough
@PassingOnThrough Год назад
Thank you so much!
@johnbroadway4196
@johnbroadway4196 2 месяца назад
IT'S BEEN WAY OVER DUE, THAT SHOELESS JOE SHOULD BE IN BASEBALL HALL OF FAME !
@raypavey1102
@raypavey1102 Год назад
He deserves to be in the hall of fame
@marktwain368
@marktwain368 Год назад
A fitting memorial to one of the patron saints of Baseball. Thanks for showing him the respect he deserves.
@PassingOnThrough
@PassingOnThrough Год назад
Thank you so much for your time in watching and the much appreciated comments.
@michaelreynoldsok
@michaelreynoldsok Год назад
Late in his life I met a former Furman University (and later semi-pro baseball player) named Eddie Edwards. Eddie said late in his life Joe Jackson would regularly stand near an outfield fence and watch the university team practice. The way Eddie told that story made me realize how much the game meant to Joe. It makes a person sad to think the guy with the most passion for the game had it taken away. Long live Joe’s memory. Thank you for this video.
@King3star
@King3star Год назад
Thank you for relating that moment in his life. It makes that scene in 'Field of Dreams" even more tender, when Joe talks about getting kicked out, the smell of the game and how he would have played for noth'n. Can you imagine Joe and Ray embracing on the other side? This is why baseball is the greatest game of them all.
@lillyanp4
@lillyanp4 Год назад
I have lived in Greenville my whole life. My grandparents on my mom’s side on buried a few graves down from Joe. My aunt great aunt worked with Joe in Brandon Mill and talked about watching him play for the Spinners. It’s a trip to see this on RU-vid! One of the best baseball players EVER!!!! It’s truly a shame he is not in the Hall of Fame.
@davruck1
@davruck1 19 дней назад
My family is from SC. I’m Black. I wonder if he was passing for white. Some of his story of getting kicked out the league makes more sense. That’s the only thing worse than gambling since it’s clear he didn’t fix the games. The fact he grew up as a sharecropper makes me question most of his story.
@ricewychrij
@ricewychrij Год назад
What a lovely tribute. As a Brit that learned about Baseball in the 90s, Joe was 1 of the legends' names that always cropped up. Fingers crossed a commissioner will at some point reverse the ban and induct Joe into the Hall, as he truly deserves
@PassingOnThrough
@PassingOnThrough Год назад
Thank you so much for watching!
@natterbat
@natterbat 2 года назад
Very good video. I grew up in Greenville. In the 1990s, while supporting a campaign to get Shoeless Joe into the HOF, I had an opportunity to talk to his younger sister Gertrude and a young friend of Joe's who learned and was inspired by him to play baseball (Joe Anders - Brooklyn Dodgers). Near the Brandon baseball field is Woodside Mill, which has an almost hidden baseball field with original dugouts and stands from the 1920s. It was for sale then, and I almost bought it, but thought such a treasure should be community owned It is now owned by the county recreation department. Shoeless Joe managed a baseball team there after the ban, I think when he was in his 40s. It is said that even then, he could routinely hit the chain link fence 415 feet away.
@PassingOnThrough
@PassingOnThrough 2 года назад
Thank you so much for your kind words and amazing comments!
@christywright4039
@christywright4039 Год назад
@@PassingOnThrough That’s awesome I lived there was born there.Thanks for the history lesson 😊❤
@itinerantpatriot1196
@itinerantpatriot1196 Год назад
I'm glad you included that story about Ty Cobb stopping by to check on his friend. Most people aren't familiar with that, they just go off the BS story that hack failed sports writer wrote. The guy was a fall down drunk and he assassinated Ty's reputation after he passed away to sell his book. The story you shared, a guy checking checking on his buddy when the rest of baseball had moved on, and Joe's meek but grateful response to the gesture, speaks to the real character of the two men. Maybe now that baseball is openly cavorting with gambling houses themselves they'll drop the hypocrisy and let Joe in the Hall. He was banned for life and he served his sentence. I'm with you on this one, let him in.
@scattau41
@scattau41 Год назад
Great use of “cavorting”. I agree with the points you’ve made. He’s served his time.
@Iconhulk
@Iconhulk Год назад
Unfortunately Cobb was a Freemason... 👎 Hopefully he Found Jesus.
@ernestpassaro9663
@ernestpassaro9663 Год назад
He couldn’t read or write so how could he sign anything!
@itinerantpatriot1196
@itinerantpatriot1196 Год назад
@@ernestpassaro9663 You might want to look again. I never said Joe wrote anything. I said a drunken washed up sports writer out of New York wrote a hit piece on Ty Cobb, not Joe Jackson.
@ernestpassaro9663
@ernestpassaro9663 Год назад
@@itinerantpatriot1196 ok
@bflatfood
@bflatfood Год назад
Terrific, terrific job! Really well done. Your commentary, the pace of your voice, goes right along with the period of time you are reflecting on. Excellent!
@PassingOnThrough
@PassingOnThrough Год назад
That made my day, thank you!
@brucecole3263
@brucecole3263 2 месяца назад
Joe Jackson should be in the Hall of Fame. No question.
@ShEDDiNgmYSkiN
@ShEDDiNgmYSkiN Год назад
It's so sad that he could never live down being casted out of Major League baseball. I hope one day he gets reinstated and his ballot for the Hall of Fame.
@omarm808
@omarm808 Год назад
Joe belongs in the Hall of fame..no doubt!!
@stanwilson8758
@stanwilson8758 Год назад
Proud of my shoeless Joe Jackson from our hometown my grandfather played with him on a mill team before he became famous,he was a kind gentleman.
@Trump751
@Trump751 Год назад
He was still a great player and he should be in the hall of fame
@marcbrooks2466
@marcbrooks2466 Год назад
I AGREE!!
@garymorris1856
@garymorris1856 Год назад
No, he accepted money to throw the 1919 World Series. Hell no!
@garymorris1856
@garymorris1856 Год назад
@@marcbrooks2466 I do not agree.
@lancemousel3457
@lancemousel3457 Год назад
The bambino patterned his stance and hitting on shoeless Joe enough said I rest my case should be in the hall shame on hall of Fame idiot people
@garymorris1856
@garymorris1856 Год назад
@@lancemousel3457 I know he was a great hitter; this is not the point. I need no history lessons about baseball from you. He accepted money to throw the 1919 World Series, and this is an absolute FACT! He does not belong in the HOF, and he is NOT in the HOF, and I am not asking to like it. Disagree with me all day long, and you will still be wrong!
@marciamcguire6501
@marciamcguire6501 2 года назад
Fabulous Homage and Tribute . Bravo. I hope Joe Does get that Reinstatement and Hall of Fame Tribute he SO deserves. Tragic.
@PassingOnThrough
@PassingOnThrough 2 года назад
Thank you so much for your kind words! I agree I was hoping commissioner Manfred would do the right thing and now he’s done the same as so many before him and just kicks the can down the road. I’m hoping the success of the field of dreams game may have an impact.
@marciamcguire6501
@marciamcguire6501 2 года назад
@@PassingOnThrough YES ! Perhaps THIS will have a visceral response from him to right this !
@darylhoskins5696
@darylhoskins5696 Год назад
Love Greenville , Spartanburg Area , Beautiful Place and very Nice People!
@dannywallace4905
@dannywallace4905 Год назад
Great job. Love this game and it's history
@PassingOnThrough
@PassingOnThrough Год назад
Thank you!
@tomayres4237
@tomayres4237 Год назад
Put him in the Hall of fame!!!!!!!!!!
@robertculbreth694
@robertculbreth694 Год назад
Hard to throw a series when you're doing everything in your power to win. Pete Rose sort of got what he had coming. Joe, nah! No way.
@smokeymayrand4757
@smokeymayrand4757 Год назад
Joe Jackson should be in the Hall of fame
@edwardgarcia3718
@edwardgarcia3718 2 года назад
I thoroughly enjoyed this video. It seems to be that Shoeless Joe was a very kind man. Just sort of accepted the bad hand that he was dealt and then tried to do right and live a humble, quiet life in his beloved town. This made me hope that MLB gets him into the Hall. He deserves it.
@PassingOnThrough
@PassingOnThrough 2 года назад
Thank you so much for watching!
@garymorris1856
@garymorris1856 Год назад
Great video, and a great player, but NO, he does not deserve to be in the Hall. He accepted the money, and of this, there is no question.
@PassingOnThrough
@PassingOnThrough Год назад
@@garymorris1856 yes several historians keep ending up with that same conclusion.
@garymorris1856
@garymorris1856 Год назад
@@PassingOnThrough Yes, it's always pointed out that he hit quite well in the Series of 1919, but often omitted that he did not hit well in crucial situations, and his defensive play was very questionable.
@brucestanley9330
@brucestanley9330 Год назад
@@garymorris1856 Just as long as you feel that exact same way about the steroid cheats that have forever ruined the entire game of baseball and not just one world series.
@Eddyrozay
@Eddyrozay 5 месяцев назад
Put this on to go to sleep but ended up watching the whole thing. Great vid 👍🏽
@PassingOnThrough
@PassingOnThrough 5 месяцев назад
Thank you!
@berean77
@berean77 Год назад
Thanks so much for this! That museum in Greenville is now on my bucket list! A couple of observations: The museum, formerly his home, has a street number on the door of 356 - the same as his lifetime BA. Coincidence? At 7:48, where they show the commemorative plaque at the base of his statue, the second paragraph leads with "At the peek of his career..." We all see typos all the time - but on a bronze plaque? A little embarrassing, I think.
@elizabethloera2139
@elizabethloera2139 Год назад
This was absolutely delightful!
@amethystlong9149
@amethystlong9149 Год назад
Thanks for making this video and putting it out here. I've hear people say he was born in 1887 (Wikipedia), 1888, 1895, etc, etc... it seems a mystery, much like why he's not in the Baseball Hall of Fame. But going off this, if he were born in 1895 and in the year 1900 he'd only be 5 years old. Aside from all this... again, thank you for making this video and sharing the information and experiences that you had.
@PassingOnThrough
@PassingOnThrough Год назад
Thank you so much! Yes I pinned a comment about why I got the birth year wrong. I appreciate so much you watching and commenting.
@georgescroggins1051
@georgescroggins1051 Год назад
Excellent video! Thank you so much for sharing his amazing story.
@PassingOnThrough
@PassingOnThrough Год назад
My pleasure! Thank you for watching!
@Joezeppi1
@Joezeppi1 2 месяца назад
Thank you for this tour my friend!!
@PassingOnThrough
@PassingOnThrough 2 месяца назад
Thank you for watching!
@Scott-jf1nh
@Scott-jf1nh Год назад
Well done video. Thank you. All baseball fans are curious about Joe Jackson. So sad they took MLB baseball away from him.
@PassingOnThrough
@PassingOnThrough Год назад
Thank you so much for watching!
@Michaela243
@Michaela243 Год назад
I just have to say THANK YOU for this amazing video! Mike
@PassingOnThrough
@PassingOnThrough Год назад
That means the world to me that you enjoyed it. Thank you so much!
@herbhouston5378
@herbhouston5378 Год назад
What was done to him was horrific! He did his part to win! This man did NOTHING wrong! If he has any family alive today the current commissioner of MLB needs to do a Worldwide apology for the unfair way he was destroyed.
@bauerj3398
@bauerj3398 Год назад
He probably should not have taken the money to throw the games then (which he testified, under oath, that he did).
@vgr112261
@vgr112261 Год назад
He made dubious fielding decisions throughout the series. Still, to have been barred for life from the HOF was unfair.
@garymorris1856
@garymorris1856 Год назад
No, you are wrong.
@garymorris1856
@garymorris1856 Год назад
@@vgr112261 No, he should not be in HOF.
@ronaldgavlick732
@ronaldgavlick732 Год назад
Compared to the criminals in sports today he's a saint
@MrNicebuttrue
@MrNicebuttrue Год назад
Good job with this personal view of this historical summary. I can tell you know and enjoy Greenville, my home town!
@PassingOnThrough
@PassingOnThrough Год назад
Thank you so much!
@mollymay2.071
@mollymay2.071 2 года назад
Excellent history video!! So professional and informative!! Keep up the good work!!
@PassingOnThrough
@PassingOnThrough 2 года назад
Molly thank you so much! I really appreciate it. This is maybe the most fun I’ve ever had making one.
@marcuscarrozza732
@marcuscarrozza732 2 месяца назад
Back when i was in my late teen years( i am 56 now ) ,i living in North Carolina and was working for a cable company and we would go to Greenville South Carolina from time to time on jobs . I wish i knew shoeless Joe lived ther i would have tried to see what ever there was about him . I always loved badeball , always will.
@PassingOnThrough
@PassingOnThrough 2 месяца назад
Thanks for watching!
@Southwesternism
@Southwesternism Год назад
Great video! Thanks a lot
@PassingOnThrough
@PassingOnThrough Год назад
I really appreciate the kind words!
@larryparker8677
@larryparker8677 Год назад
Joe Jackson is a model of what we all should strive for. To be humble, to always do your best, and show kindness to one another. A simple man that had his career cut short by a vengeful commissioner. It saddens me that this ruling could not have been reversed by one of the very best human beings... Joe Jackson!
@mrbig4532
@mrbig4532 Год назад
Always do your best does not apply to Shoeless Joe he admitted he was part of the fix and went out of his way to not do his best and he delivered. I don’t want to hear he didn’t know what he was involved in he wasn’t able to read and write but he still had common sense .
@jeffreyh.1176
@jeffreyh.1176 Год назад
Citation please.
@petersancinito1560
@petersancinito1560 Год назад
Very enlightening and most enjoyable! Thank you!
@PassingOnThrough
@PassingOnThrough Год назад
Thank you so much!
@petersancinito1560
@petersancinito1560 Год назад
I always believed that Jackson was handed a very raw deal by Landis and your video only reaffirmed that belief! Shoeless Joe was, and remains to this day, one of baseball's most tragic figures!
@88gair
@88gair Год назад
BRAVO! You've restored dignity that the man deserves...
@PassingOnThrough
@PassingOnThrough Год назад
Thank you so much!
@simplekustomsbyeddiepapand1838
Thanks for sharing!!
@bobfulton6744
@bobfulton6744 Год назад
Excellent video. Thank you.
@PassingOnThrough
@PassingOnThrough Год назад
Thank you so much!
@iamgbaby12
@iamgbaby12 Год назад
This man deserves to be in the Hall of Fame
@TheInsaneChef
@TheInsaneChef 2 года назад
Awesome video man! I went by Rickwood Field in Birmingham on my trip. I love Baseball history
@PassingOnThrough
@PassingOnThrough 2 года назад
Thank you so much sir! Baseball definitely will always be my favorite.
@mikekeeler6362
@mikekeeler6362 Год назад
Is it Hank Aaron stadium in Birmingham also you can see it from Interstate 65
@stevenpristoop3236
@stevenpristoop3236 Год назад
Another great video of early baseball.
@PassingOnThrough
@PassingOnThrough Год назад
Thank you so much!
@Emcee_Shan
@Emcee_Shan 2 года назад
Great video sir! Stellar 👍
@PassingOnThrough
@PassingOnThrough 2 года назад
Thank you so much my friend. Really enjoyed this one.
@Lavaman3682
@Lavaman3682 Год назад
Great video!! Thank you....
@PassingOnThrough
@PassingOnThrough Год назад
Thank you so much!
@gregpohlmeier
@gregpohlmeier Год назад
Really cool, always been fascinated by joe as I have always been a white sox fan. Thanks for showing us!
@PassingOnThrough
@PassingOnThrough Год назад
Thank you for watching and commenting!
@amihays7449
@amihays7449 Год назад
I love learning the history of baseball ⚾️ 👏👏💃💃
@PassingOnThrough
@PassingOnThrough Год назад
Thank you for watching!
@goodcopbadcopwrestlingpodc6117
Was in Greenville last week but the museum was unfortunately closed so was great to get some glimpses inside from this.
@PassingOnThrough
@PassingOnThrough Год назад
Thank you so much for watching! I’m glad you were able to see some of the museum through the video.
@KentuckyRanger
@KentuckyRanger 2 года назад
WOW! What an in depth, and awesome history of a baseball legend. Thanks for sharing!
@PassingOnThrough
@PassingOnThrough 2 года назад
Thank you my friend! This was a joy to film. I really appreciate you watching.
@KentuckyRanger
@KentuckyRanger 2 года назад
@@PassingOnThrough I'd keep up better, but I don't hardly ever get notifications, so I drop in from time to time, to see what's new, LOL! While not a huge baseball fan, this was very interesting. I'm also glad, that you didn't go into all the horrid details about his part in the cheating debacle, but focused on his awesome career.
@danielcorreard3746
@danielcorreard3746 Год назад
shoeless joes glove is where triples would go to die a quote from the movie field of dreams shoeless joe was a great player and it's sad he will never get the well deserved honor of entering the hall of fame
@jerrydowning3774
@jerrydowning3774 Год назад
Great insight into the life of Shoeless Joe Jackson. It appears if he knew about the scandal he never participated in it even if he did attend a meeting. He batted .375 leading all hitters in the 1919 World Series with no errors and I think I saw something where he threw some runners out besides in that World Series. It appears he was a successful businessman which says a lot for him since he was illiterate. He deserves to be in the Hall of Fame.
@Skunkape74
@Skunkape74 Год назад
Good stuff...Thanks for sharing!!!!
@PassingOnThrough
@PassingOnThrough Год назад
Thank you!
@marcbrooks2466
@marcbrooks2466 Год назад
I love the video!! I will visit Greenville in his honor.
@PassingOnThrough
@PassingOnThrough Год назад
Thank you!
@teejay6063
@teejay6063 Год назад
Cool watch for any baseball lifer. Thanks bro 👍
@PassingOnThrough
@PassingOnThrough Год назад
Thank you so much!
@teejay6063
@teejay6063 Год назад
@@PassingOnThrough You're welcome. I always knew the basics of the story, and researched Joe more after watching the video. Guilty or not, he served his time! Pete, same thing. Reinstate these guys. Their baseball prison terms were MORE than fulfilled at this point.
@robertcinsc2171
@robertcinsc2171 Год назад
Joe also played for the Pacific Mill-Lyman team for a couple of seasons in the late 1920s. There were team pictures that hung in the Lyman Community Building. I saw them in the 70s during my Little League years.
@DewmonicAbyss
@DewmonicAbyss 2 года назад
Had to grab some popcorn for this. lol Great job putting this together! Retiring with a liquor store.. Not a bad way to go out.
@PassingOnThrough
@PassingOnThrough 2 года назад
Thank you so much my friend! I really appreciate you watching.
@mikepaukstis9892
@mikepaukstis9892 Год назад
Excellent
@PassingOnThrough
@PassingOnThrough Год назад
Thank you so much!
@KitschyTravels
@KitschyTravels 2 года назад
Very well made video!
@PassingOnThrough
@PassingOnThrough 2 года назад
Thank you so much! I really appreciate it.
@Voots7
@Voots7 2 месяца назад
Very cool.
@soupdragonuk
@soupdragonuk Год назад
As a huge baseball fan from the UK the fact that Shoeless isn't in the Hall is the most disgusting travesty in baseball history. He's one of my favourite players of all time.
@PassingOnThrough
@PassingOnThrough Год назад
Thank you for watching and commenting sir!
@michaeltwigg44
@michaeltwigg44 3 месяца назад
Definitely deserves to be in the hall of fame! one of the greatest! Actually he is #2 on my list of the greatest of all time! Thanks for posting this video great work!
@PassingOnThrough
@PassingOnThrough 3 месяца назад
Thank you so much for watching!
@michaeltwigg44
@michaeltwigg44 3 месяца назад
@@PassingOnThrough You're welcome 😊
@TC-dw6wg
@TC-dw6wg 8 месяцев назад
Great job Arron
@PassingOnThrough
@PassingOnThrough 8 месяцев назад
Thank you!
@donbonnell9973
@donbonnell9973 Год назад
Excellent Video
@PassingOnThrough
@PassingOnThrough Год назад
Thank you so much!
@zonkster909
@zonkster909 Год назад
Like Ruth, up from nothing to greatness.
@MapleSyrupPoet
@MapleSyrupPoet Год назад
A lot in Joe's eyes 👀 deep soul
@vassa1972
@vassa1972 Год назад
Interesting video
@MapleSyrupPoet
@MapleSyrupPoet Год назад
Uniform, bats, quite valuable I imagine ⚾️⚾️⚾️
@marcbrooks2466
@marcbrooks2466 Год назад
I hope I'm alive when they finally realize that he truly belongs.
@josephmoodie4970
@josephmoodie4970 Год назад
I grew up with this dude on my mind.I love med baseball more then all things as a kid and hearing how much all other players looked up to joe made me a huge fan of his. When you look at his career and what he did in a 10-12 year majors career it’s easy to wonder what his all time placement would have been had he played as long as cobb. Joe Jackson in my opinion would have been number #1 had he got more then only half a career. Hea still 3rd all time best batting average and only 11 points behind cobb so he without question would have been 1st had he the extra 10-12 years in the majors as cobb had. The only thing joe Jackson didn’t have huge stats on was home runs and that is simply because home runs were not a thing until the babe came along and before babe was home run baker who even with the name home run baker still only averaged 10 homers a season. Ty cobb and joe Jackson have very low all time home runs because they were not a thing yet.That being said Jackson could do anything on the field and at bat he truly was gifted from day one. I could never afford any of his cards but one day about 5 years back I found 4 original sholess joe cards along with 2 ty cobbs and a large original 1918 Red Sox babe Ruth team Photo made from origional photo paper of the day all in great condition but the joe Jackson cards are still my best cards I love the most he was the best ever in my opinion.
@ronniebishop2496
@ronniebishop2496 Год назад
Good presentation.
@PassingOnThrough
@PassingOnThrough Год назад
Thank you very much!
@danacoleman4007
@danacoleman4007 2 года назад
well done!!!
@PassingOnThrough
@PassingOnThrough 2 года назад
Thank you so much!
@jj90789
@jj90789 2 года назад
Smashing the like button 👍 thank you..thank you very much
@PassingOnThrough
@PassingOnThrough 2 года назад
Thank you King!
@Creek54
@Creek54 Год назад
He's always my first choice in my all time greatest White Sox players.
@bobstewart8032
@bobstewart8032 Год назад
He really seemed like a truly decent human being. Some people may say that being illiterate is a sign of stupidity. I think one has to be very intelligent to get through life when not being able to read or write. This was an awesome video!
@PassingOnThrough
@PassingOnThrough Год назад
Thank you so much!
@bobstewart8032
@bobstewart8032 Год назад
@@PassingOnThrough you're welcome!
@ernestpassaro9663
@ernestpassaro9663 Год назад
Jackson hit 375 in that series!
@LoriFoster
@LoriFoster Год назад
Kinisaw Mountain Landis was born near my home town. There’s a small plaque on the side of the road for his remembrance.
@ericerickson7544
@ericerickson7544 Год назад
I think it has been long enough that Joe Jefferson "Shoeless Joe" Jackson should be reinstituted back in the M.L.B.
@michaelliverani9440
@michaelliverani9440 Год назад
It's difficult to get the background of some of the players in early baseball. I really enjoyed this video. I like getting to know the man. Good job! Thank you.
@PassingOnThrough
@PassingOnThrough Год назад
I really appreciate your comments so much!
@daniellinehan63
@daniellinehan63 Год назад
Read L.Ritter's " Glory of their Times" About baseball old days- a great great read
@ronniebishop2496
@ronniebishop2496 Год назад
The one constant that keeps everyone equal, the place where you can’t buy your way in, you have to earn it by being in the top 1/2 of one percent, of the genre, you have to be great just to play baseball. And people know it’s real, it’s not rigged it has rules for everyone.
@PassingOnThrough
@PassingOnThrough 2 года назад
*Mistakenly said Joe was born in 1895 due to the fact the subject of a previous days filming was born then. Joe was born in 1889. (Some sources say 1888)
@frozentspark2105
@frozentspark2105 Год назад
Hero's get remembered, Legends never die - Babe Ruth
@79antigua
@79antigua 4 месяца назад
he was also called sockless joe as told in the book "Commy" the life story of Comiskey written in 1919., you should also read the book 8 men out for more facts than the movie.
@Joe_Jackson
@Joe_Jackson Год назад
Cool
@movieman9100
@movieman9100 Год назад
He has done his time. Let him in.
@Brians_C8
@Brians_C8 Год назад
He should be in the hall of fame but we got stupid commissioner. I hope we get a good one who will let him in.
@mtp4430
@mtp4430 Год назад
I never quite understood his banishment from baseball. He never attended any of the meetings with the players conspiring to throw the game, and he was the leading hitter in the world series. Something doesn't add up. I believe that somehow this man got railroaded.
@bauerj3398
@bauerj3398 Год назад
Probably should not have taken the money then (which he did, by his own admission, under oath).
@mtp4430
@mtp4430 Год назад
@@bauerj3398 He did testify in the affirmative, however history will show that he was railroaded. He took the advice of the attorney hired to defend he and his teammates. That attorney was very short-sighted. Sorry, but lawyers are ruthless. I was once accused of a crime I most certainly didn't commit. Money was tight and I was assigned a legal aid lawyer who told me to plead guilty to a lesser charge. When I said I had committed no crime he said well then go hire a lawyer because it's "my job to get you through the system ASAP." Long story short, I had to borrow $5,000 from my sister, hired a real attorney, and the mess was cleared up 1 2 3. I realize the man wasn't using a legal aid attorney, but he was just going with the legal advice given him. The money was forced on him and he basically either took it, or followed legal advice saying that he took it. Why would he conspire to throw the series, and then go out and have a great world series? It doesn't make any sense to me. It's another one of those many instances where the history that was recorded was pure bullshit. Look at all the erroneous things that history has recorded about Ty Cobb. Hell, history tells us that Lee Harvey Oswald murdered JFK 😂
@bauerj3398
@bauerj3398 Год назад
@@mtp4430 Wait, so you are saying he lied and didn't take money? That is some serious revisionist history you got going there. If you want to try to argue that he took the money but then didn't partake of the game fixing, that is a reasonable discussion, but to pretend he didn't take money, when he did, and he admitted he did, is just plain ludicrous.
@mtp4430
@mtp4430 Год назад
@@bauerj3398 it's obvious you don't have much experience with lawyers or the practice of law. The jails are filled with people who claimed culpability in things they never took part in. It's all part of the system, and unfortunately the system doesn't work. However, it's the only one we've got. I said he may or may not have taken money. Just because he said he did regarding the legal advice he was given doesn't necessarily make it so. I was advised to plead guilty to a crime I've never committed, just to get a reduced sentence. Why should I have a sentence at all if I'm innocent. It took me $5,000 and an above board attorney to squash that claim before it even went to court. The evidence was clear that I had done nothing, but these legal aid schmucks advised me to plead guilty to a lesser sentence. This man was an uneducated illiterate man. Documents actually had to be read to him because he didn't even know how to read. But you're right, he shouldn't have taken the money. But the jury is still out on whether he took it or not. Ask yourself this? Why would the conspirators who devised the plan to throw the series pay this man when he never delivered on his promise? Instead, he had an outstanding series. When things don't add up you have to question it. And you have to question it two or three times when it involves our legal system. If he was advised it would go away by just admitting he took part in it, and that was the legal advice he got, and uneducated unsophisticated type that he was, would probably go with whatever his counsel advised. Maybe he did take the money as he stated. But I believe that was coercement. Go ahead, make a deal with underworld figures, then renege on that deal, and see if they pay you LOL. The man was the leading hitter in the series. You don't pay a man who double crosses you. That's just plain and simple logic.
@bauerj3398
@bauerj3398 Год назад
@@mtp4430 It is obvious the only experience you have in this matters is that of a criminal. Keep making up excuses, talking out of your ass, in complete disregard of the facts, and pretend you are some sort of autodidact Perry Mason, if that helps you puff out your chest a bit. Meanwhile, in the real world, Jackson testified under oath that he took $5000, signed a confession to the exact same effect, and stated afterwards, the exact same thing (his bone of contention was that he was promised $20,000, but only got $5000.)
@simplekustomsbyeddiepapand1838
His house that he was born in right here in downtown Greenville south Carolina!!
@ethanmarten7966
@ethanmarten7966 Год назад
Reinstate Joe Jackson.
@richardhausig9493
@richardhausig9493 2 месяца назад
I agree.
@SgtRock-cr2sh
@SgtRock-cr2sh Месяц назад
Put Joe in the HOF!!!!
@weirdowolfstudio5409
@weirdowolfstudio5409 Год назад
I hope the Jackson family is profiting from everything
@USMC-cv5sd
@USMC-cv5sd Год назад
Great singer in the 1980's also. Lol Seriously and obviously he wasn't a better hitter than Cobb, Ruth, Gehrig or Hornsby to name a few but he is THE NATURAL.
@timalan5376
@timalan5376 Год назад
In comparison to what pro athletes have gotten away with today, he was an angel, and really should be in The HOF.
@TheBatugan77
@TheBatugan77 Год назад
Now now... Two wrongs don't make a right...
@garymorris1856
@garymorris1856 Год назад
No, he should not.
@garymorris1856
@garymorris1856 Год назад
@@TheBatugan77 hell no!
@Mr1gladiatore
@Mr1gladiatore 16 дней назад
You would think by now that an honest baseball commissioner would have reinstated him considering he was acquitted of any wrongdoing. His case is a perfect example of guilty by association. Just look at his World Series stats. Are those the stats of someone trying to throw a series?
@PassingOnThrough
@PassingOnThrough 16 дней назад
I agree wholeheartedly!
@thehighlanders607
@thehighlanders607 Год назад
MLB will let juicers into the Hall Of Fame but not a legend who hit .375 in the World Series while committing no errors? MLB per usual is on the wrong side of history.
@vgr112261
@vgr112261 Год назад
Which “juicers” are in the HOF?
@thehighlanders607
@thehighlanders607 Год назад
@@vgr112261 Ortiz, Pedro and Pudge to start with.
@simplekustomsbyeddiepapand1838
I live 25 min from fluor field!!
@artpekarekiii4320
@artpekarekiii4320 2 месяца назад
Here we celebrate a man who was banished from baseball. Induct Pete Rose in the HOF.
@michaelbaker602
@michaelbaker602 Год назад
I would hope that somewhere down the road, Joe is admitted to the HOF. After all, Cobb was enshrined in the #1 spot and he too bet against his own team during his playing days. You can look it up.
@mikekeeler6362
@mikekeeler6362 Год назад
What about Pete Rose will he ever be in the Hall of Fame
@carygrossman7683
@carygrossman7683 Год назад
@@mikekeeler6362 no chance
@theearl1477
@theearl1477 Год назад
Rob Manfred listen up. If you really care that much about the history of baseball you need to overturn that bigoted Commissioner Keneshaw Mountain Landis's ludicrous decision and put Joe Jackson in the Hall of Fame. He is deserving of that recognition. If the fans had the opportunity to elect him it would be an overwhelming vote for his enshrinement. What happened to him is one of the greatest tragedies in baseball history.
@waltdude
@waltdude Год назад
Man he looks just like Ty Cobb
@deadlyoneable
@deadlyoneable Месяц назад
Imagine living your whole life now knowing how to read. That must suck.
@jeffmcdonald4225
@jeffmcdonald4225 Год назад
He belongs in the HOF. It's a crime that he isn't.
@SJam491
@SJam491 2 года назад
In regard to the Jackson-Cobb meeting, I was under the impression that next to no one in baseball wanted anything to do with Shoeless Joe. Despite Cobb's faults, he was an exception. Am I wrong?
@joenewman7474
@joenewman7474 Год назад
Cobb's faults? So all the other players were boy scouts, right? Are you kidding!
@SJam491
@SJam491 Год назад
@@joenewman7474 You're right. Mel Hall was pretty bad.
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