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Shooting Sony with Off Camera Flash: The Breakdown with Miguel Quiles

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In this episode of The Breakdown Sony Artisan Miguel Quiles walks you through all of his settings when shooting with off camera flashes using Sony cameras! He'll walk you through setting up your white balance, focusing mode, as well as how to avoid screen blackouts when using an off camera flash.
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@frankzayas3103 5 лет назад

Didn't mention THE most important setting when you're shooting mirrorless in the studio...Live View Setting Effects needs to be OFF. Otherwise, all you will see is blackness and won't be able to focus or compose. I know several Sony shooters that told me they didn't think of that and flipped out the first time they tried shooting inside with lights.

@calebhutton 5 лет назад

That is THE reason I am searching for a video on flash. All I see is black...thank YOU for answering my question! :)

@SteveHasACamera 5 лет назад

@@calebhutton +1 Same.

@jiaxinjiang1593 5 лет назад

Frank Zayas there is an option called “ shot result review”, you may put that to one of your quick function buttons like C1. And every time when you have your flash on your camera and start to shoot, press that button or enable that function and you can see the final image with accurate ambient light.

@lonposh 4 года назад

Thats the only thing I was looking for in this video and you gave the answer thanks

@mutaqingeraldi 4 года назад

thank you sir, it's funny that i got what i am looking for in the comment section

@brandonkapana2453 6 лет назад

finally a video that actually walks you through the settings on the back of the camera for off camera flash! thank you, extremely helpful. Only thing i can get see getting confusing is trying to spot meter with face detection.

@metal4k787 7 лет назад

I was expecting more information about the flash.

@Yorkshire-wedding-videosCoUk 5 лет назад

Virtually nothing about flash settings lol

@MC50000 5 лет назад

The video has only just started and I’m confused already as my A7RIII doesn’t have a wireless flash mode. It simply has Auto, fill flash, slow and rear. Please advise thanks

@boomlumbus 2 года назад

I have this same problem

@produceahit123 2 года назад

Thank you Miguel!

@goldspike1 6 лет назад

Well done... I just purchased an A7R3 and this was exactly what I was looking for. I'am assuming that what you presented is applicable between a 2 and a 3. If not a tutorial on a 3 would be nice for us converts to Sony.

@sonophotossonophotos2538 8 месяцев назад

Great video What about in my case i have the sony A7c. I don't see on the flash menu . Wireless mode

@costa4555 Год назад

Thanks for the video! please make sure to introduce your model in ur next sessions

@abrahamtre27 4 года назад

How set up my focus point if I shooting a group of people Thanks

@26alberts 5 лет назад

My camera is sony a7riii but it doesn't have that option for the flash mode/WL how can I do?

@thomsonpaul. 5 лет назад

Even I could not find

@panobirds 6 лет назад

80% talking about focus...in a video about of camera flash.

@bijosn 4 года назад

It was good advice

@mmfilm-foto 5 лет назад

Thanks for the great Video...I Have a Question about shooting with Flash on my A7iii...My Problem is sometimes, that the Shutterbutton has a delay, sonit dont fires right away...sometimes i push its very often to Fire the the BUTTON. I dont know what to do, i have powerful flashes, so thats not the Problem...Maybe you can help?? Thanks for the Support!

@askjrvbjkrfbvhjbdjf 6 лет назад

.....but what settings did you use on the flash? these settings are dependent on the settings you have on the flash. or am i wrong?

@tkarlmann 6 лет назад

Nicely done. Why the "-2" exposure Compensation? All photos looked very dark. I know you don't want to blow highlights, but are Sony cameras so inaccurate that you require a -2 stop underexposure?

@papamoneyph 3 года назад

thank you! so informative!

@jbroadbentmr2 4 года назад

Dope video and having just purchased a sony A7ii this helped with understanding the focus modes coming from Nikon but I would of liked a little more info on using off camera flash, you just showed your flashy kit no pun intended lol. Again it was a good video and will definitely look around the channel.

@PhilofBristol 2 года назад

I have recently used an A7iii for a wedding. I normally use my A77ii, and using rf flash triggers definitely does not require switching to WL on the camera. So I tried using my Hahnel Modus wireless flash in the normal flash mode, and it worked. Setting WL caused the master flash on the camera to use the Sony flash - to - flash protocol, definitely not right for radio triggering. I guess it might be different with other flash systems.

@steveadams7 6 лет назад

Sony A7riii does not feature the WL (wireless) tab in the menu. How do you set-up Wireless for A7riii?

@dannyfungphoto5549 3 года назад

I think you don't need WL to use the trigger and flash

@DazLane123 5 лет назад

hi i think looking at this even though you have flexible spot over the eye the face detect actually overrides it as it goes green just before to photo is taken so focus here is being achieved by face detect ?

@ccbphoto 3 года назад

Thanks once again!

@robtimpe7683 6 лет назад

I have the a6000 with Flashpoint Zoom and the R2 transceiver. I don't know how to make them talk to each other it wont fire. Any help is helpful T.I.A what setting do i need to change on the a6000 ??? I tried the W.L and it wont work

@goldenhours755 2 года назад

Very helpful man. God Bless you !

@DmitryBrodsky007 7 лет назад

Great video. Couple of comments 1) Using WL is only for some brands off flash like Sony and maybe your Profoto. For example if you want to use GODOX anything (aka Flashpoint etc, a very popular brand) to wirelessly trigger you need to put your Sony in ANY MODE OTHER THAN WL. WL is the only mode where it won't work; 2) Why do you bother with small point etc? you only have one person in viewfinder. Just using face detection in any af mode will focus on an eye, especially if you use eye detect.

@pessatored 6 лет назад

I just got a Flashpoint Xplor 600. Do you know which setting is the best with an a7rii? you said anything other than WL?

@LifeSurfingDude 5 лет назад

Thank you Dmitry, this is a very useful piece of info. So, you think between using eye AF and face detection there won't be much difference if any at all?

@fernandomaisonave3623 6 лет назад

Hello Miguel, I just purchased a Sony a7rii and I'm looking for a flash or it. What do you recommend. I need a flash to mount on the camera itself and wold like to use a wireless remote as well. Thanks!

@DeltadronesBr 5 лет назад

Awesome video! Thanks!!

@BandariVahab 6 лет назад

Hey Miguel, could you please add a couple of f/2.8 shots of this lens? Thanks

@shifteleven 7 лет назад

Is it actually using the focus point since you have face focus on? It looked like they were competing.

@ottawamountainman 7 лет назад

K. Adam Christensen yes, the camera is not using spot focusing in the way he thinks it is. The face detect is overriding his spot focus point just as he presses the shutter.

@gsahr1 6 лет назад

how cold was it in the studio that you needed 2 jackets. lol

@FellowLad 6 лет назад

9:22 is where he actually starts talking about the off-camera flash gear.

@a10hmadinho 7 лет назад

Very elaborate video, Loved it.

@russellinesteinbuhler90 6 лет назад

I am totally confused as to why you would ever want to shoot a person with eye auto focus off.

@mairoarde 6 лет назад

right? it's weird.

@alokkarnik1867 5 лет назад

at 5.6 you can shoot a little faster without Eye AF. Eye AF makes a bigger difference when you start to get around F3ish and lower.

@BomJimmy 5 лет назад

Lack of awareness how to use Eye AF. Else how many of you, do change focus point and place it on her eye and then click? Even in that flexible Spot mode anyone will focue on eye and recompose and click as most of the time.

@mountsat 2 года назад

Please do a video for Nikon z6 iii off camera flash.

@pcrate20 3 года назад

helo my camera don't have wireless mode what should I do? is an sony A6400 and I have a Godox V860ii for Sony , any help please..

@dannyfungphoto5549 3 года назад

I use godox trigger and flash, I never use WL (wire less)mode but it work . I use fill flash mode rear sync mode they work

@habin_oce 5 месяцев назад

What does rcv remote or remote on on hvl screen?

@alokkarnik1867 5 лет назад

Really love the EVF recording. Thank you !

@anikghoshsomo8978 3 года назад

Thanks sir

@hotelphotography 2 года назад

I'm trying to use my A7c with high speed sync but it will only sync at 160 shutter or lower. I'm using Adorama's Flashpoint AD200 HSS flashes. Any suggestions apart from setting the Flash to WL?

@mshavrot_math 6 лет назад

I would like to know how to get the dial on the back (which I think you call the Joy stick) set up to adjust the expand flexible spot feature.

@nadajuma6094 3 года назад

Why my auto white balance is not working?? With off camra flash it gives yellow cast and wrong colors i am sure it’s not working i am using godox 600ad i am upset I really like the auto colors as starting point for post production can any one help 🥲

@peterholman3627 5 лет назад

I have a sony nex 7 and a canon speedlight 580exii. I put a flash adapter pixel 325 on tje sony camera and then the flash. I can't get the flash to fire. So what should the camera settings be to shoot manually with a non sony flash?

@simeonkolev1231 6 лет назад

There are some things that have to be mentioned about the AF :). First - using closed down aperture is making the AF-C very unreliable. So you better use AF-S. Second - Eye AF is actually the best option you can use for portraits. 3rd - the best flexible spot is the Expanded one. It is the most accurate with the newest algorithms and as far as I tested the best for AF-C. Also the best option for adapted lenses. 4th - some settings use contrast detect AF in AF-S and phase detect in AF-C. For example - Zone and Wide are like that.

@simeonkolev1231 6 лет назад

PS also when you enable Smile/Face detection it takes control over all other settings you chose to use except the eye AF. So all the time you were using the flexible spot - it was focusing for Face detect... you have to disable it to use the flexible spot.

@simeonkolev1231 6 лет назад

You can check that by moving the flexible spot out of the face with face detect enabled and the focus will be on the face :)

@pattyconnelly8823 2 года назад

I don’t see a wireless flash mode in my Sony a7iii menu?

@karlneal1060 5 лет назад

Sorry did'nt read the whole post, Frank Zayas covered this as it happened to me today when photographing a dancer.Drove me nuts so grabbed my canon.

@jbello9398 3 года назад

What would be the focus setting for group shots or couples shots😊

@lorenzostheman 6 лет назад

I don't think anyone else has mentioned it and I know this wasn't a specific portrait tutorial but the lights were pretty high and there was no catch light in her eyes. Sorry...but those shots were kinda lousy.

@gliderider59 6 лет назад

I thought so too. There was ZERO Catch Light, and she seemed way under exposed.

@LifeSurfingDude 5 лет назад

that was a good catch. I was thinking that something was missing. But, hey, I'm really glad he made quite a few mistakes. Reading through these great comments, I'm learning a lot!

@craiggagnon8407 4 года назад

Great Video man, but question, with such amazing Eye AF, why not simply use that?

@danilopiacentino9316 5 лет назад

Hi Miguel, how you have fix the problem coming with last update of a7iii and a7riii where now the eye focus don't work in single focus ?

@jjualvare 7 лет назад

Great video, important information. But do you have a video on setting up your equipment if you have a single camera, with a single flash, with or with out a wireless transmitter/receiver photographing in the streets?

@AlergicToSnow 6 лет назад

The shots look awfully dark to me. Is that on purpose?

@GertJanMes 6 лет назад

Maybe a good pointer for people that jumped ship recently with the introduction of the Sony A7RIII (including myself) is "Live View Display"" (page7 of 9 on tab 2). When shooting in a studio with f/11 and 1/200 it can get very dark in your electronic viewfinder. Just turn off "Live View Display" in the menu and you can see in the dark :-)

@m.mcnally4534 6 лет назад

Gert-Jan Mes.........so the whole “see what the sensor sees” argument of evf is better is thrown out the window. Awesome I’ll stick with my dinosaur D-SLR. That works regardless. #stillworksin2018

@filipposSioupoulis 5 лет назад

hello there. I'm looking for an answer before I switched from canon to sony. ( i own an a7r3) . I work like 80 % with my Speedlight on. BUT, at mirrorless cameras ( i I think all of them) the TTL assist beam won't fire and I cant easily ( like never) focus in the dark. maybe you've heard something or is any update going to be released that helped with this issue? I mean I have events concerts that are really really low light and I end up getting my old Canon DSLR because of the assist of the beam. thanks.

@pauldtyler 6 лет назад

Thanks for the video. We have nearly the same set up for corporate headshots, but with four profoto lights. The room is dark, except for the modeling lights. When I set the appropriate exposure manually, it's so dark through the view finder that it's almost impossible to see the subject clearly enough through the view finder to find focus. What do you recommend? Using more ambient light in the studio?

@RawloftheDead 6 лет назад

Hi Miguel, I have the sony a7ii and ad200 godox with x1 trigger. For some reason my shots aren't coming out in HSS. Even though the flash says HSS with the lightning bolts, on the sony the curtain is showing anything over 1/250. What am i doing wrong?

@jdacademyofsalonspa4835 4 года назад

Just a question because I'm new but why not just use back button focusing?

@prashantabarman1779 6 лет назад

When I connect godox TT350s flash on sony A6000 it show this accessory is not supported by the device and cannot fire. What should I do please help please

@brandenongkp 7 лет назад

the model is so beautiful.

@juanbrezzo5380 6 лет назад

Hi MIGUEL ! I've just got my SONY A9 and I wanna know if for HSS photography just buying a Sony FA-WRC1M Wireless Radio Commander and 2 Sony HVL-F45RM Wireless Radio Flashes OUT OF THE CAMERA both of them can work faster than 1/250. For example: 1/8000 ??? Or I need buy 2 Sony FA-WRR1 Wireless Radio Receiver too??? Thanks in advance.

7 лет назад

Hi Miguel, I use a lot of off-camera flash with my SONY cameras but I have never used "big guns" like the Profoto, just small flashes. Did you turn off your Electronic First-Curtain sync if you are shooting at very high shutter speed (over 1/2000 sec)? Also, I only use WL when I was using IR to my SONY flashes, but if I am using RF I will use Fill, Rear or Slow depending what I want from my OCF. Is the Profoto Air sharing the SONY protocols to use WL?

@MtZionPMBChurch 6 лет назад

Thanks Miguel, I really needed some help with knowing how to focus with the Sony cameras - mostly when there's a busy background. But my new issue is setting up my Sony A7Riii or A9 with the Profoto Air TTL-s. When I shoot in A, P, S or M modes my B2's work fine with the flash mode set to Wireless. But the B2's do not work when I switch to AUTO mode - I upgraded the firmware on the Remotes to A3, and the B2's to A8 - What am i missing?

@tacotaco7658 4 года назад

Great video. Thks.

@aklivn49 4 года назад

idk I'm learning off camera flash. But doesn't it seem like the pictures are a bit Underexpose? Am I wrong? GREAT video BTW. Do you ever come to Anchorage, AK?

@hasbeenbowler 7 лет назад

Another great video! Thanks Miguel and Adorama! When shooting in studio with flash, do you turn off live view?

@d00mPatr0I 7 лет назад

Shots appear a bit muddy. Also was the studio cold? always handy to wear a couple of coats when shooting.

@karlneal1060 5 лет назад

How does it work if you want to get rid of all the ambient light.Does the view find go black and you can't see your talent.

@pappupappu3084 6 лет назад

I just could not get one thing and that is why before taking the picture it is bright on the screen and why after taking the picture it is much less bright because mirrorless system your end result is the same that what you see through the evf or on the back of the camera

@nicolewagner1430 6 лет назад

This is the most helpful video I've ever watched. Thank you.

@joyousfilmer6074 6 лет назад

can we use off camara flash on a7iii

@robertspector7015 6 лет назад

great teaching tool

@electronicfellows2113 Год назад

but why are all these final shots underexposed?

@anilsomwanshi5582 7 лет назад

Nice you keep it simple

@11557bexley 6 лет назад

Great video, thank you

@AZ-xx9ho 6 лет назад

I cann't found WL-flash whit my A7III 0.0

@presise1620 4 года назад

me neither

@dannyklesh 4 года назад

Do you have a link for eye auto focus video ?

@LightSportMan 5 лет назад

My new a7iii does not have the wireless option?

@sixcentsmedia 5 лет назад

Why is everything so dark though? Feels like the fill flash should be turned up higher. You might be able to bring all those things up in post, but shouldn't you be getting it close in camera?

@LongTimeTTFan 7 лет назад

Thanks for going over the settings step by step. Very detailed explanation and demonstration. The video recorded by Atomos Ninja Flame is very helpful displaying all the camera settings during live shooting. It allows viewers to see what the photographer sees. Great experience. Noel Moore is fantastic as she always is. Thank you both.

@arkofconversation4115 5 лет назад

I need more models in my life.

@jesseroussellmusic 6 лет назад

must be COLD in there with all those coats etc. great in-depth vid

@conrdohenriquez8215 6 лет назад

What is the name of your model ? we got every name of what you are using , by the way can the flash of that camera trigger wireless or a capable flash or device have to be on the flash mount ?

@Cochegrz 5 лет назад

These shots seem under-exposed, and don't tell me you can "fix" in post-processing. Wonder how you would do with a fiol camera.

@jenslarsen820 7 лет назад

Why do you use WL-flash. I always use FILL-flash with my A7II?

@nickminderman7380 7 лет назад

Jens Larsen I agree I was told use Fill for off camera flash. The WL is for controlling Sony flashs am I right?

@jenslarsen820 7 лет назад

I don't think it's for sony flashes unless you use SONYs infrared triggering. With radio triggering I always use FILL.

@bkinurface 7 лет назад

Did you watch the video?

@jenslarsen820 7 лет назад

Hey Nick! You're absolutely right. WL is for infrared triggering (I am from Denmark, so I hope you understand my English).

@alvinsaguit1895 6 лет назад

Bro, is there a tutorial for external flash how to soften light

@cessealbeach 6 лет назад

Sony Pro Here, yes to me the shots are under exposed, But this photographer sees it different/otherwise, that is normal, Good Shoot right on track, WL is the choice for sony flashes

@alokkarnik1867 5 лет назад

what about when using godox or other off brands?

@marcbibanga5601 6 лет назад

I didn’t any effects from the lighting kit.

@GeorgeStar 6 лет назад

Are you kidding? Those shots are way underexposed.

@gliderider59 6 лет назад

I thought so too.

@Pratagraph 5 лет назад

Those are unedited pictures. He's exposing for highlights.

@clawdawg7248 5 лет назад

Plus, he explicitly stated he was shooting at f/2.8, then shot at 5.6. Also, face detect was on and took precedent over all other focus modes, on which he spent so much time explaining. Not good.

@alokkarnik1867 5 лет назад

I don't think so. You'd be surprised what you can do with those in Lightroom

@LifeSurfingDude 5 лет назад

@@clawdawg7248 I was wondering the same :-). The focus was grabbing the entire face. I assume pictures at 2.8 would have slightly blurry eyes if we are to magnify

@marcusgarrison288 5 лет назад

Are you in a deep freeze??? What's up with the COAT while the model is in a light shirt?? Underexpose??

@tonyjames5444 3 года назад

How to setup for off camera flash and yet goes on for ever about how to focus.....

@drstew1 6 лет назад

Yeah and We can’t see her blue eyes. In the pictures meaning

@twjjohn7395 5 лет назад

I realize you can't cover all aspects of different types of equipment tho it would be nice if people doing videos would describe the video properly, like ( how to use a wireless flash on a Sony camera that has wireless settings ). And it's not supposed to be about other gear - get to the point, show some examples, and explaine how, in a professional thorough clear and even idiots 101 way, thats all it takes. I'm not criticizing negatively but if you could read through your comments and learn from what people say, you could go further. Keep it in focus y'all.

@dopamining7621 6 лет назад

Why is this video still up?

@marchonore 4 года назад

The video is unfortunately quite dated in relation to the current menu system and firmware.

@Ckk2024 5 лет назад

R u kidding me. It's not even about flash!

@DiviPhotos 6 лет назад

Cool

@papopin0 2 года назад

Maybe is me but all the images look underexposed

@ryanphototech 6 лет назад

the model is blessed with really nice eyes

@fendz00 6 лет назад

everytime i watch this guy Do tutorial feel ......

@prabijshrestha 5 лет назад

I think it will be easier to use DSLR for photos with off camera flash cause in real world time is valuable and we don't do potraits all time , we do events too . 🤔

@soniad3241 4 года назад

My biggest disappointment with this camera is that it lacks automatic focus bracketing. This is a useful feature for macro photographers. I would have bought a Nikon mirrorless if I had known about this deficiency. Come on Sony bring out a software update please.

@tonecurves1688 2 года назад

It’s focusing on her face not eye bro

@GittyBussoms 7 лет назад

I just watched a beautiful woman....I think somebody may have been talking & maybe I heard the word 'flash'....I'm not sure....I think I'm in love...:)