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The 1883 Reichsrevolver is not the weapon most people would expect to see in German service - it was a decidely obsolete weapon from the moment of its adoption. The initial 1879 model was actually even worse, with an awkward grip and longer barrel, but the 1883 update retained all the same mechanical features of the first version. Specifically, it is a single-action-only revolver with a remarkably heavy hammer spring, a really pointless manual safety (you can only engage it when the hammer is down), a non-rebounding hammer, and no ejector. To remove the empty cases, you actually have to use a separate ejector rod stored in your holster - or a stick off the ground.
The cartridge is the 10.6mm German Ordnance round, used in basically nothing else, which is for all practical purposes equivalent to the .455 Webley. It fire a 250-260 grain lead bullet at about 650 feet per second (black powder only!). That doesn't translate into an impressive number of foot-pounds, but it was definitely a round that packed some wallop.
I went out to the range expecting the Reichsrevolver to a pretty atrocious gun, like it is on paper. Much to my happy surprise, though, I found it a lot of fun to shoot. The sight weren't regulated well to my ammunition (it shot substantially high), but the deep boom of the back powder, the cloud of smoke, and the nice kick (enough to convey some ballistic effectiveness, but not so much as to be uncomfortable) made for a great shooting experience. It may be an 1860s design 20 years past its time, but seeing as we are now 120+ years past when these were being actually manufactured (and we're not actually depending on these to fight colonial campaigns anymore) the Reichsrevolvers are a fun piece of antiquity.

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@daisyruin
@daisyruin 7 лет назад
Love the look of the smoke clinging inside the cylinder after it revolves.
@jasondoe2596
@jasondoe2596 7 лет назад
Shira Assel Agreed!
@robertcalifornia9641
@robertcalifornia9641 4 года назад
Yea thats sexy af
@robbiedickson3386
@robbiedickson3386 7 лет назад
as a wise man once said "Heavy is good, heavy is reliable. If it doesn't work you can always hit them with it"
@rooseveltbrentwood9654
@rooseveltbrentwood9654 4 года назад
Robbie Dickson ah but recall that the gun that wiseman sold didn’t actually work.....
@kaptunkordan6656
@kaptunkordan6656 4 года назад
@@rooseveltbrentwood9654 and so the wise man got hit...
@rooseveltbrentwood9654
@rooseveltbrentwood9654 4 года назад
kaptunkordan actually in this case when the irate customer returned the wiseman crushed his balls. ah Uzbeks.......
@brandonobaza8610
@brandonobaza8610 4 года назад
No, Tommy, I’m not sayin’ the gun don’t work. I’m sayin’ it’d do more damage if ya fed it to him.
@blakkneit9779
@blakkneit9779 4 года назад
😄
@leroyjenkins4811
@leroyjenkins4811 7 лет назад
The fact that this revolver has no manual ejector is unforgivable. I could totally get used to everything else.
@jasondoe2596
@jasondoe2596 7 лет назад
Joe Cool Yes, a very silly omission.
@keithmoore7390
@keithmoore7390 7 лет назад
yep! the only deal killer for me to!!!
@normanm5254
@normanm5254 7 лет назад
I'd rather have a Webley. Reloading is piss-easy and the casings eject themselves, double/single action with a surprisingly smooth double-action trigger pull, nice big sights for easy target acquisition; just generally seemed to be a more thought-out design, it would seem. As mentioned in the vid, even the M1873 Colt Single Action Army would be better. Smoother action, GREAT ejector rod (probably second best for fixed-cylinder revolvers; there's one Swiss revolver that I think was better because opening the loading gate made the trigger automatically index the casings for you which sped things up), better ergonomics, no useless safety, and so on. I'd even rather have an M1895 Nagant, and the one I owned left a TREMENDOUSLY bad taste in my mouth. The double-action feature worked only when it wanted to, casings occasionally got stuck in the chambers, couldn't hit dick with it (I'm no marksman, but I was getting something like 10" groups at 10m), and while the Military loading was probably more potent I found the commercial stuff I got from Fiocchi felt utterly anemic. Like I was shooting .22lr or something like that, no 'oomph' or 'heft' at all. In the end, I happily rid myself of it. The date of manufacture was, surprisingly, almost as recent as you can get for the M1895; 1944. Production stopped 1945 as I recall. Externally it looked great, but the double-action trigger just could NOT be trusted so was basically single action only. I broke an M1911 mag by using the 'toe' of it to try and pry out a casing from the revolver. The baseplate loosened, weakened, and eventually snapped off.
@BigWillyG1000
@BigWillyG1000 7 лет назад
It's amazing a major power like Germany had a weapon without a basic feature common in cartridge revolvers by 1870 in 1879. That thing is like a scaled up Smith and Weapon No.2 from 1862. I can see why they didn't want the overly complex Mauser Zig-Zag but other than pure national chauvinism why take this over superior foreign designs?
@nunyanunya4147
@nunyanunya4147 5 лет назад
how dare they produce something before the idea was invented... spoiled white man
@vguyver2
@vguyver2 7 лет назад
It actually looks nice in the brown, in that old decaying sorta way.
@fritzkuhne2055
@fritzkuhne2055 7 лет назад
reminds me of bioshock
@issacarellano9909
@issacarellano9909 4 года назад
Fritz Kühne your a strange one
@jacksonlewis4365
@jacksonlewis4365 5 лет назад
for accuracy remember the barrel was 120 years old......
@akduckwithm16gamingandoutd40
@akduckwithm16gamingandoutd40 4 года назад
And probably wasn't that good in the first place
@RabbitusMaximus
@RabbitusMaximus 4 года назад
akduckwithm16 gaming and outdoors naw. German quality was best of breed and pride of production
@RabbitusMaximus
@RabbitusMaximus 4 года назад
KuK137 , yeah, of course. But your implied point is irrelevant here. I own an 1883 reichsrevolver, and I own an 1884 (71/84) tube fed mauser rifle. Having inspected both very closely I can confirm that manufacturing was outstanding on both for the Spandau arsenal. And materials were the best available steels, heat treating, wood, and fitment. Despite the design and engineering opportunities they missed, production was in fact, outstanding and tolerances excellent and beyond most of the day, excepting perhaps the contemporary efforts of the Swiss.
@Azerkeux
@Azerkeux 3 года назад
test invalid not European mud
@CarsonRH
@CarsonRH Год назад
​@@RabbitusMaximus that doesn't change the reality of precision at the time.
@FizzerXCIV
@FizzerXCIV 7 лет назад
it's pretty bad, but it's kinda charming in its own way. I like the rugged simplicity of it. It will probably still work in another 134 years, and that has to count for something...
@fiskedunser6314
@fiskedunser6314 4 года назад
"Seperate Manual Ejector™©, which is basically technical speak for a stick" oh, how I love you Ian
@ShawarmaFarmer
@ShawarmaFarmer 7 лет назад
still more effective than a stick
@ekscalybur
@ekscalybur 7 лет назад
Only if you're facing 6 or fewer opponents. :P
@emperorspock3506
@emperorspock3506 7 лет назад
Are you talking about Ian's plastic punch?
@TheBitwise
@TheBitwise 7 лет назад
Eks calybur: How quickly can you kill 6 men with a stick?
@ekscalybur
@ekscalybur 7 лет назад
Give me a stout enough stick, about as quickly as I can swing it.
@nono-xw6qd
@nono-xw6qd 7 лет назад
Bitwise break stick just get two stick, stick win every time
@teneresand
@teneresand 7 лет назад
"The Toyota Hilux of revolvers" -brilliant...
@thelaughinghyenas8465
@thelaughinghyenas8465 10 месяцев назад
I am surprised Ian didn't use his universal forgotten weapons tool - a plastic pen - to knock out the empties.
@thelaughinghyenas8465
@thelaughinghyenas8465 3 месяца назад
So was I. It would have served better than what he had, and was closer to the original size of what was issued with these.
@kurtberliner7049
@kurtberliner7049 4 года назад
"Herr Kommadant, the Soldiers are rebelling and refusing to advance!" "GET THE REICHSREVOLVER" *Fires off the gun into crowd, before taking 5 hours to reload, and in that time the soldiers have joined the Spartakus revolt*
@PitviperXD
@PitviperXD 6 лет назад
I use that thing in Verdun. It’s outdated and slow but I would like one. It’s a really simple, nice looking gun in my opinion.
@ottelo7773
@ottelo7773 Год назад
It's very fun in verdun. U have to hit ur shots because it take 3 years to reload
@TheSquidPro
@TheSquidPro 7 лет назад
4:13 , this reload animation sucks, dev's fix it!
@Gabrong
@Gabrong 7 лет назад
Yeah i would prefer a butler handling me a loaded gun.
@dndboy13
@dndboy13 7 лет назад
if im getting a butler to reload i might as well use that fancy 20 round pinfire in another video
@woobyvr9654
@woobyvr9654 7 лет назад
Slowest reload is video game history oh yeah you VERDUN players know what im talking about
@rtg
@rtg 4 года назад
Ah, but it is a headhunter's dream!
@Rollins36LP
@Rollins36LP 4 года назад
I came to the Comments to See this :D Thank you!
@ryan0U
@ryan0U 4 года назад
At least this thing's simple unlike a certain russian pistol that's nearly as much of a pain in the ass...
@armikautzky4592
@armikautzky4592 4 года назад
GREIF IHRE POSITION AN!!!!
@Preuen-zs1fz
@Preuen-zs1fz 4 года назад
That thing is awful
@Peter-vy9ew
@Peter-vy9ew 7 лет назад
I like Ian's history and mechanics videos, but I also appreciate his shooting videos with impressions and operation explanations. That actually looks like an entertaining gun to shoot. Not sure why so many of the guns at this time don't have good sights.
@flyingninja1234
@flyingninja1234 7 лет назад
I'd hate to have to try to load that in the middle of a battle.
@andymac4883
@andymac4883 6 лет назад
I believe the philosophy of the German military at the time was that you're not supposed to reload it in combat. It's a backup weapon, if you still need it after six shots you'd be in some serious trouble. Of course, I'd still like to have an ejector rod, even if I weren't supposed to have to use it.
@DerSchwabe-tt5fe
@DerSchwabe-tt5fe 4 года назад
I guess you were supposed to shoot six rounds, then take your saber and fight with that
@randycollins87
@randycollins87 6 лет назад
Got my model 1883 up and firing with my black powder hand loads. It fired pretty good really. 3” groups at 10 yards. I’m going to load up some more ammo and see if I can improve on that. Cheers.
@horstschlemmer2042
@horstschlemmer2042 4 года назад
As a German I must tell you, you are using it totally wrong. It’s not designed as a revolver. It’s actually the first club with long range capabilities. It was way ahead of its time.
@SainsSDR3SD
@SainsSDR3SD 3 месяца назад
Is this only revolver that you germans manufactured ?
@icostaticrebound6007
@icostaticrebound6007 7 лет назад
I recognize that from Verdun (the game) speaking of which, you should try that game out Mr Ian
@tenacious645
@tenacious645 7 лет назад
Ryan Wiles Right? It makes Battlefield look like a science fiction action movie...I will say I find Battlefield 1 to be a lot more fun though.
@taistelusammakko5088
@taistelusammakko5088 7 лет назад
Fucking cod iw is more primitive than automatic-field 1 but seriousy bf1 is fun tho
@stewknoles4790
@stewknoles4790 7 лет назад
I have the Italian Bodeo revolver. 1886. M mine was manufactured in 1923. It's basically the same, except the Italians did put on a simple little device to push the cartridges out and it is double action.
@SainsSDR3SD
@SainsSDR3SD 3 месяца назад
But dont have trigger guard so safety was little worse but better than glisentti
@PanzerAce247
@PanzerAce247 4 года назад
If there ever was a gun I'd genuinly feel bad for, this is the one.
@870Slager
@870Slager 7 лет назад
Its a beautiful morning for some forgotten weapons, I should be studying for my last final exam, but hey...
@slowpokebr549
@slowpokebr549 7 лет назад
this is the voice of your parents and college loans. QUIT EFFING AROUND AND STUDY !!!!!!!
@cariboupetepeterson3711
@cariboupetepeterson3711 4 года назад
Boy, Your 2020 presentations have certainly become substantially more polished since this was filmed. Still, informative and interesting.
@martinlatvian5538
@martinlatvian5538 4 года назад
When my dad was younger He got this revolver from some russian guys for 2 boxes of vodka. Many years later some bastards stole it. When I was a kid I was using it as a toy and running around the garden. I remember it was damn heavy and trigger was super hard.
@martinlatvian5538
@martinlatvian5538 4 года назад
Although it was different model. Year 1894 was stamped on it.
@PitviperXD
@PitviperXD 7 лет назад
Despite all the flaws and disadvantages of it, I really wouldn't mind having one.
@RabbitusMaximus
@RabbitusMaximus 4 года назад
Harkshir yep. mine shoots wonderfully. .44 russian is inherently very accurate.
@MrGeorocks
@MrGeorocks 7 лет назад
I'd love to see this perform in a two gun match against a comparable era revolver with a similar loading method.
@arsonist2773
@arsonist2773 4 года назад
Watching smoke billowing from a newly emptied chamber is quite the opening.
@mroilcat
@mroilcat 4 года назад
This revolver kinda reminds me of a Charter Arms Bulldog that I had for years (and got stolen). Nothing fancy, just meat & taters, but reliable, hard hitting & tough as a $2 steak. Miss the old Bulldog and am now looking to replace it.
@TheKetsa
@TheKetsa 7 лет назад
I'd like to see a review of the Waffenfabrik Bern 1882.
@ForgottenWeapons
@ForgottenWeapons 7 лет назад
It posts on Tuesday.
@KaiserLandsknecht
@KaiserLandsknecht 7 лет назад
Gun Jesus had spoken!
@TheKetsa
@TheKetsa 7 лет назад
Forgotten Weapons Incredible :) Thanks.
@beyondbackwater4933
@beyondbackwater4933 4 года назад
"Toyota Hilux of revolvers" Pre 2005 hilux I'm sure he means.
@troy9477
@troy9477 7 лет назад
At least it is possible to make casings from modern ones. Not sure how custom the bullets are, or if a typical .429-.430" cast bullet will work. Let's hear it for Pyrodex P. Glad you could shoot it. Vintage guns are always fun and interesting. Great video as always. Thank you
@EuropeYear1917
@EuropeYear1917 7 лет назад
It makes sense that you'd be able to fashion the brass for the cases out of .44 Remington Magnum cases. .44 Remington Magnum to my knowledge was a further development of the .44 Russian cartridge, and 10.6x25mmR German Ordinance was itself based off of the .44 Russian. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe that is the case.
@gavinheimerman6320
@gavinheimerman6320 5 лет назад
Since it was presumably so cheap and easy to manufacture I wonder why they didn't maybe attempt to issue these to every soldier along with their standard rifle, you know as a backup or something.
@MrNedsaabdickerson
@MrNedsaabdickerson 5 лет назад
That makes the webblys look modern.
@kevinoliver3083
@kevinoliver3083 5 месяцев назад
The Model 1879 Reichsrevolver was designed mainly for cavalry. So the safety catch was probably so that carry the revolver would be safe, with all six chambers loaded, when riding fast cross-country.
@coltm4a186
@coltm4a186 7 лет назад
I bet that if this is gonna be in Battlefield 1, it's slow reload will be balanced with a high amount of damage. Battlefield 1 recently got an update that allows a custom server to have a weapons setting called "Standard Issue Rifles", which forces all of the classes to use their country's standard Issue, iron-sights only, bolt-action rifle as their primary weapon. The only attachment that players can put on their rifle is a bayonet.
@Mildcat743
@Mildcat743 6 лет назад
Mae's opinions on the 1879 on C&Rsenal are magnificent.
@TheSpritz0
@TheSpritz0 7 лет назад
You gotta admit, this was a BIG improvement from percussion revolvers!!
@ivanthehunter3530
@ivanthehunter3530 4 года назад
That first person firing sequence was nice
@dereks6636
@dereks6636 7 лет назад
7am, you uploaded right on time Ian. :) love your videos and upload time. keep up the great work.
@jeffreyplum5259
@jeffreyplum5259 7 лет назад
I think it is perfect for the kind of shooting you were doing. The bullets did hit the desert after all. Now shooting a more specific target may have been far more difficult. Perhaps it redefines Horse Pistol, " A pistol which, can hit a horse within range. "
@Tr4wnet
@Tr4wnet 7 лет назад
Will you do a video about the Bodeo 1889?
@870Slager
@870Slager 7 лет назад
at least the game has brought up some added interest in old firearms from a younger crowd. Can't complain about that!
@bloodhit1
@bloodhit1 7 лет назад
azriel deathweave He is in the credits of BF1....
@spartanxmonster
@spartanxmonster 7 лет назад
Thank you Ian, love the channel. I recommend it to all my friends, and at least 4 of us now watch on the everyday regular.
@clayrogers4532
@clayrogers4532 7 лет назад
HiLux? That truck name was phased out in by 1975 and from brochures in 1973. Only a feriner would be familiar with that name, or someone with a really good memory. Remember the Chevy LUV? That was based on the Isuzu Faster. Datsun sold a pick up called the Little Hustler.
@ProudToBeNoob
@ProudToBeNoob 7 лет назад
This revolver definitely represents the darkest hour of Imperial German Military Firearms adoption.
@koenvandersanden908
@koenvandersanden908 7 лет назад
That Kaco shirt gave me nightmares. horrible failure rate about 45% of them failed of the 1500 inverters we have installed.
@chrissinclair8705
@chrissinclair8705 Год назад
German Ordinance procurement in the 1800's "We need a rock, if it shoots out some pointy bits, so much the better"
@carloparisi9945
@carloparisi9945 7 лет назад
Very interesting, it would be nice to see what it can do on paper at, say, 10 - 15 yards and a rough penetration test on wood. As a sidenote, still working after almost a century and a half looks like a good quality to me. An updated reproduction could just be an effective outdoorsman gun.
@gillly11111
@gillly11111 6 лет назад
The sight is designed to be shot single handed,hence it shooting high when you are over powering it with a double grip,sights of that time are based on them being shot single handed.
@robertkubrick3738
@robertkubrick3738 4 года назад
Death grip should make it hit low, you got it backwards.
@davidgruen7423
@davidgruen7423 2 года назад
The holster has an ammunition pouch and it has a belt buckle with a pin similar to a waist belt, it takes forever to get it loose, I don’t know who thought that was a good idea.
@starfleethastanks
@starfleethastanks 7 лет назад
Universal disassembly tool could also work for casing removal.
@mikewatkinson1996
@mikewatkinson1996 6 лет назад
I thought the reichsrevolver was originally meant for cavalry? Then cav was obsolete so infantry used them sometimes. I thought the idea was that you wouldn't really need more than six shots at a time on horseback, so they were never meant to reload right away. just to fire six shots if you need them and then charge with the sabre. Am I wrong? Thought I heard this somewhere.
@willkriegforkartoffeln4878
@willkriegforkartoffeln4878 7 лет назад
I love this gun so much! Just sheer simplicity and reliability!
@historyshlibber7176
@historyshlibber7176 3 года назад
It doesn't ever break and it goes bang
@khaak2390
@khaak2390 7 лет назад
Lost it at "u have to use a seperate manual ejector which is basically, thechnical speech for, a stick." lmfao
@Lurker1954
@Lurker1954 7 лет назад
The sights may be regulated to 100 yards (meters?). This was not unheard of in 19th century military pistols.
@randycollins87
@randycollins87 6 лет назад
Loved that you fired it. I’m reloading black powder cartridges for mine. Cheers.
@_ArsNova
@_ArsNova 4 месяца назад
Saw your Instagram post. Looking forward to seeing how you perform at the match!
@jonathanbastard4629
@jonathanbastard4629 4 года назад
The whole Reich revolved around it..
@Democlassof14
@Democlassof14 7 лет назад
its cool to see guns 6x older then me still run, amazing
@empiricalmadman3260
@empiricalmadman3260 7 лет назад
There! I have found my new CCW handgun.
@billy56081
@billy56081 7 лет назад
The lack of an ejector rod has to be its biggest fault.
@pootis388
@pootis388 Год назад
People are going to think I'm really stupid when they find out what my favorite handgun is.
@SNOUPS4
@SNOUPS4 7 лет назад
The First Person point of view is a nice touch to this video!
@AR-GuidesAndMore
@AR-GuidesAndMore 4 года назад
But with that poor sight alignment its obvious that he wasnt hitting anything
@Schmidt54
@Schmidt54 7 лет назад
So awesome that you can show us this, thank you!!!
@FantadiRienzo
@FantadiRienzo 7 лет назад
"There is no reason" - there is one: money. This Revolver was designed to be mass produced cheaply. There hasn't been any war in europe yet where pistols played a major role. On top of that, the prussian military had a weird philosophy: provide their infantrist with cheap weapons and rely on the soldiers themselves and middle class civilians in the militia to purchase weapons of higher quality, and in case of a war bring them on the battlefield. For example, before the introduction of the Dreyse rifle the prussian ordenance weapons was still a smooth bore flintlock musket. Rifles with&without percussion ignition were only used by specialized Jäger-units and the militia. The reason was: money. The prussian king would rather spend money on castles then on supplying his foot soldiers. Then, as in most european armed forces, you had a bunch of narrow minded traditionalists in charge. They just didn't like the "newfangled", experimental stuff, especially when it was from a foreign country. The last case of traditionalists hampering the development of modern weapons was the german OKW in WW2. Only after they realized that they were about to lose the war (in 43), they gave the engineers carte blanche to try all these "crazy new ideas" they pitched years or even decades before - like the assault rifle, the revolver cannon, a semi automatic rifle with a well working gas system, new airplane designs, and so forth. But coming back to this revolver: it was cheap and obsolete by the time it was issued. But if you got shot with it - you were dead. You won't end up deader if you were shot by a double action revolver.
@keithmoore7390
@keithmoore7390 7 лет назад
all true but the one thing you miss is all military's are slow to pick up new ideas! and all governments would rather waste money on foolishness rather thn on something that needs money spent on it!!!
@hjorturerlend
@hjorturerlend 7 лет назад
Using money on sidearms is foolishness x)
@Wolf_Larsen
@Wolf_Larsen 7 лет назад
Gun Nutty Your assessment of OKW is completely, demonstrably false. Your description of the Prussian system is an oversimplification that physically hurts. How about you do some research before writing on these topics?
@ottovonbearsmark8876
@ottovonbearsmark8876 6 лет назад
The pistol did actually play a major role in World War 1 for trench raids, a role that this gun failed miserably
@KageMinowara
@KageMinowara 6 лет назад
Europe wouldn't be nearly so interesting if you guys didn't have a bunch of castles everywhere.
@MrSmsch
@MrSmsch 7 лет назад
Ian often talks about the bad sight pictures on old guns. As someone who doesn't shoot but likes guns because of this channel, I'm curious if anyone would be willing to explain what makes a good sight picture vs a bad one, and why older guns seemed to universally have bad ones?
@hjorturerlend
@hjorturerlend 7 лет назад
Well, they should be visible - the old guns almost all have small notches.
@Ensign_Cthulhu
@Ensign_Cthulhu 7 лет назад
5:37 - I was wondering about the ammunition. Is this something so rare that even Fiocchi won't touch it? Supposedly Starline will custom-headstamp your brass for you if you have a large enough order, so maybe that's a way to get some "genuine" Reichsrevolver brass out there. I suspect this pistol was something along the lines of _pour encourager les autres_ and for desperation at point blank range. Reloading under combat conditions would be difficult to say the least, and I'd rather have a Webley, thank you very much. IIRC Erich Maria Remarque's character in "All Quiet on the Western Front" is issued with an old revolver at one point. I suspect this was probably it.
@merlemorrison482
@merlemorrison482 7 лет назад
IIRC, you need to order at least 10,000 rounds to get your own headstamp.
@657449
@657449 6 лет назад
Mine chambers 44 Russian and cut down 44 Specials. I need to find a source of the bullets since they are about 0.420.
@sfghowwarrior3130
@sfghowwarrior3130 7 лет назад
That is a cool old relic. Yes certainly not a favourite weapon but definitely a unique piece to anyone's collection
@ludo9234
@ludo9234 7 лет назад
Nice to see you out in the field shooting again. :-)
@johnhans2929
@johnhans2929 7 лет назад
When I was in Cowboy Action Shooting, one of the people who shot where I did used one of these as his second revolver.
@Paladin-tp9lj
@Paladin-tp9lj 7 лет назад
we should do one on experimental guns that were never really used.
@redbyrd64
@redbyrd64 5 лет назад
It was cool seeing the black powder smoke coming out the barrel.
@Sunfade38
@Sunfade38 7 лет назад
Funny that you mention the 1873 SAA. A decade older and far more superior. Better grips, good ejection system, decent sights - etc. You should try and get your hands on a 7th cavalry SAA and talk about it!
@brendo7363
@brendo7363 7 лет назад
Recommended CCW or home defense for the eccentric gentleman? But seriously, where do you get this ancient ammo from?
@Nukle0n
@Nukle0n 7 лет назад
Brendan N .44 Remington cases, cut down and fitted with a custom handforged bullet.
@veuzou
@veuzou 7 лет назад
in fact in France, we've got a few of those and we shoot regular .44 Russian in them or shortened .44 magnum.
@dragonbutt
@dragonbutt 7 лет назад
Fear the man who defends his home with a black powder revolver. He is crazy and will stop you dead.
@keithmoore7390
@keithmoore7390 7 лет назад
hand loading I your only source Ian said it was 44mag. brass!!! and frankly, I wouldn't trust ammo over 20yrs.old unless I stored it myself!!!!!
@MarvinCZ
@MarvinCZ 7 лет назад
This isn't a gun for a gentleman. This is a cheap mass-produced side-arm for the lowly infantryman who likely won't need it much so that doesn't matter. Germany and Europe in general has a tradition of very finely crafted firearms for the real gentleman.
@NP6335ACDC
@NP6335ACDC 7 лет назад
there's something oddly beautiful about guns like this, so simple and basic.
@JerryEricsson
@JerryEricsson 5 лет назад
Just because it is so ugly and plain, I really sort of want one of those to hang on the wall of my RV. Only problem, I occasionally hit California and, well I just don't want the grief of having to lock her away for my movement through that State. Usually if I must enter California, I park my RV in Arizona and unhitch my Ford Edge to drive into that State, leaving my M1911A1 locked away in the RV. This is really stupid though since California has twice the crime rate as Arizona, and that's where you really NEED a firearm, but I ramble on. Thanks for the great video. Perhaps some day you can get into forming the brass for such a conversion from .44 Mag to the German round.
@patrickcrosley6179
@patrickcrosley6179 7 лет назад
Would you rather have to use this or an 1895 nagant revolver?
@johnnschroeder7424
@johnnschroeder7424 7 лет назад
I'd like to see a ordnance soap comparison on this gun vs the Webly and the Colt 45 .
@owenwolfco.8344
@owenwolfco.8344 5 лет назад
I’ve held a resin cast copy of one. The grip is pretty unusual and the sights are beady.
@thesturm8686
@thesturm8686 4 года назад
Man you should make some and sell them
@andyrihn1
@andyrihn1 7 лет назад
General rule: Mainland European service revolvers suck. The bodeo and reichsrevolver were comically obsolete. The Nagant is the nagant. Everyone else was using something that fired a really wimpy cartridge. The only exceptions I've seen have been Gasser revolvers (which were at best on par with the colt saa) and Russian Model 3s (which I guess aren't even European)
@deepbludreams
@deepbludreams 7 лет назад
andyrihn1 you got it right.
@keithmoore7390
@keithmoore7390 7 лет назад
hell Europe has really never had much of a pistol history as far as being world beaters!!! although I guess the Germans and Brits could be considered an exception to that!!! to tell you the truth I think most of Europe had gone metro-sexual long before that term was coined, say at least a 125yrs. before!!!
@robbiedickson3386
@robbiedickson3386 7 лет назад
did you forget the webley .455?
@robbiedickson3386
@robbiedickson3386 7 лет назад
wrong, .45 acp (standard US army load) has a taylors formula of 12, while millitary load .455 has a taylors formula of 13 and thats forgetting loads like the mk3 manstopper which was a wad-cutter hollow-point or the mk4 load which was a plain wad-cutter
@deepbludreams
@deepbludreams 7 лет назад
+Robbie Dickson Other then how shockingly incorrect this is, let me lay some knowledge onto you. 455 Webly has a MAXIMUM pressure rating of 13,000 PSI, 45 ACP has nearly twice that, at 21,000 PSI the MK3 was droped in 1900 due to hauge convention issues, bringing back the MK2, 265 Grains at roughly 700 ish feet per second, so significantly below that of 45ACP. and in the 1939 update to the 455 as the MKVI bought it up a little bit higher then that......still well below that 230 Grain 45 ACP. Notice how Weblys converted to 45ACP tend to not survive long for a reason, they are flatout dangerous to fire as 45 ACP is in the MAJORITY of cases significantly higher pressure. To put this into even better perspective, the hottest 45ACP hand load will cause a cylinder failure in a webly revolver thats converted to 45ACP.
@milgeekmedia
@milgeekmedia 4 года назад
We get used to seeing German technology that is cutting edge...Was it a Friday afternoon when they thought this one up? :D
@beckhamhome
@beckhamhome 7 лет назад
Would like to see you do an episode on pre 1900 American and European revolvers. From the man stoppers to the truly anemic.
@chapiit08
@chapiit08 7 лет назад
Probably the Italian 10.4mm Bodeo and the Swiss 1878 revolver also in 10.4mm would have been in the same league as the American, British and German guns.
@keithmoore7390
@keithmoore7390 7 лет назад
same bore but different loads!! you'd need the specs. side by side to determine that!!!
@chapiit08
@chapiit08 7 лет назад
The .45 Long Colt probably has an edge over the rest.
@DoctorCreepy
@DoctorCreepy 3 года назад
Mine is a few years later than this model and it has an ejector.
@nicholaspatton5590
@nicholaspatton5590 4 года назад
After watching your Dryse pistol video, I'd take this over the Dryse.
@rosscorambles659
@rosscorambles659 6 лет назад
Best "lane" in the Red Rocks shooting area.
@bennyjoe1990
@bennyjoe1990 4 года назад
I know it sucks, but I want one so bad.
@agoogleaccount2861
@agoogleaccount2861 4 года назад
Very nice nostalgic design slow to reload and actually quite a safe design ..and pretty good stopping power considering its age and many of the similar sidearms of the era .. You used a finer black powder granulation than it prefers . hence the shooting high
@johntaylor346
@johntaylor346 4 года назад
Of course by fanning the hammer it will shoot as fast as a machine gun. An advantage of a single action. I saw a man who could fire accurately in this manner. I'm sure the video is on RU-vid.
@lanceluthor6660
@lanceluthor6660 4 года назад
It is typically German in its design for how it would probably be used. It's likely to be carried for decades without any attention. Then in an emergency it absolutely needs to work even after years of neglect. If you need more than five cartridges your screwed anyway. Or you may very well still have a sword back then.
@johannesdolch
@johannesdolch 4 года назад
My thought on this is: This is mainly a Rank Insignia/Decorative Uniform Piece and it's only practical purpose is to shoot deserters. Well for that you only need one round and accuracy is meaningless at sub 20 feet. Nobody was ever expected to actually fight anybody with this. If you are someone carrying one those and it has come down to you fighting yourself, there will be enough rifles lying around for you to pick up. And if you think about it like that then reload speed, accuracy, firing speed, double action, etc. they are all meaningless. The only things that matter are Ruggedness, Safety and one (headshot) kill ability. And it has all that.
@Vares65
@Vares65 4 года назад
Thanks for the cool video! Obviously an obsolete pistol, but still really cool. I'll add it to my "when I win the lottery" list!
@JenniferinIllinois
@JenniferinIllinois 7 лет назад
Never heard Ian say 'sucks' so many times in one video. :) It may suck but I want one! -Jen
@thesturm8686
@thesturm8686 4 года назад
Some german analyst in 1883 : "They will know us as the one group of people that overengineer stuff" The person who designed this thing : "Ich got you fam"
@MarikHavair
@MarikHavair 4 года назад
To steal another comment from here: They put a safety on a single action revolver, if that's not over-engineered I don't know what is.
@thesturm8686
@thesturm8686 4 года назад
@@MarikHavair made me wonder, isn't safety is like basic stuff? And why revolvers doesn't have safeties? Is the trigger pull heavy enough?
@MarikHavair
@MarikHavair 4 года назад
@@thesturm8686 With a single action revolver you have to manually cock the gun to fire it, every time. They were also typically carried with the hammer down on an empty chamber to prevent the possibility of an unwanted impact firing the gun. So an external safety would typically be considered frivolous. Double action revolvers also rarely have an external safety, the 1-gallon milk jug of a trigger pull is usually consider deterrent enough against an accidental discharge. Then there's a 3rd factor being that external safeties weren't exactly prevalent in firearms design until the era of bolt-rifles and semi-auto pistols, which revolvers predate. Some 'modern' revolver designs have more safety features added on but most antiques and even replica designs don't incorporate manual safeties. Exceptions exist, this revolver being one. Although the safety as Ian hinted at is rather frivolous in that all it does is prevent the hammer from being cocked, something that would be unlikely to happen 'accidentally' and you wouldn't necessarily trust it to prevent the half-cock hammer from dropping on a round in the chamber. So you don't really get anything out of it. I'm by no means an expert by trade though, Ian didn't elaborate in this video exactly how the safety works, his other video on the gun may be more illuminating in that regard.
@thesturm8686
@thesturm8686 4 года назад
@@MarikHavair Thanks for the explanation, i never thought you would made a long reply, so thanks
@w.p8960
@w.p8960 4 года назад
Meant to hang authoritatively on an officers belt.
@Green_Fire420
@Green_Fire420 7 лет назад
Hey Ian, enjoyed your magasine videos you uploaded the past week. Would you consider maybe doing some videos on ammunition history and evolution(Highly enjoy your history bits of your videos)? Started following a while back, Great videos, keep up the awesome work!
@eisenkrieg553
@eisenkrieg553 7 лет назад
Ph Ol I know I would personally like to see what flèchette ammunition actually looks like in a larger calibre. All those obscure tests would be very interesting.
@MrFreakyFarhan
@MrFreakyFarhan 7 лет назад
Looking forward to seeing you shoot the 1879 next. Here's hoping...
@bennyjoe1990
@bennyjoe1990 4 года назад
You could probably make a modern repro in .45 acp. Make it cheap to shoot and cheap to make
@thesturm8686
@thesturm8686 4 года назад
Somebody alert the folks at Gunlab!
@Waldemarvonanhalt
@Waldemarvonanhalt 3 месяца назад
Dang. There are many air rifles out there that shoot pellets at a great velocity!
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