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Episode #11 Ken walks us through stairs that were built in the NS Builders shop but not by the shop team... Nick Yost joins to walk us through the process of building stairs in the shop vs in the field and shares some detailed shop drawings and insight into this beautiful staircase.
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Shop built stairs with extremely detailed drawings | Revealed #11

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@andrewcullen3235 3 года назад

In East Boston, on lunch, framing stairs, watching this. Mine seem rather lack luster now. Great work. Great videos

@MrSoyBeenz 3 года назад

I'm loving the Revealed series!

@cn3816 Год назад

Housed stringers are by far the best stair building method in my opinion. Keep the vids going love this channel.

@sprintspirit8457 3 года назад

No pressure, No diamond...I am totally using that Great video as always 👍

@andyraven6219 3 года назад

Cool video. Over the pond in London, all the victorian houses have self supporting stairs like this, no extra stringers are installed. The Grander ones had what we call "cut and mitred" strings, like yours in the video. The bottom corner tread with four sides, we call a "kite". And the treads with three sides, we call "winders". Its great seeing how other places, do similar building techniques.

@joinertanner 3 года назад

Nice to see its older method been used in USA this is how we build all our stairs here in Ireland when you get used to doing them we build them flat on the bench in about 2 days. Curved one we set up like this one

@buyamerican3191 Год назад

I stand humbled in the presence of greatness! I thought I was great but this shows me that I have a ways to go! Great work.

@guillermo7777 3 года назад

Thanks for showing this, is amazing the process seems to be complicated but so simple at same time, true craftsmanship

@wildtwindad 3 года назад

This set of stairs is pimp. So well thought out from finishers perspective.

@acdnintheusa 3 года назад

Impressive team. Thanks for the post.

@briang5307 3 года назад

Even taking into consideration and planning for how the plaster is going to be applied under the stairs - excellent example of taking time to make time.

@NSBuilders 3 года назад

Yost did a great job with the design

@stusecord707 3 года назад

One word. Impressive!!!

@aidanjudo007 3 года назад

This is how we do it in my neck of the woods. Nice job guys.

@NSBuilders 3 года назад

I’m learning that we’re behind compared to some of the other regions.

@markryan3995 3 года назад

Amazing!

@godbluffvdgg 2 года назад

Sweet set of stairs! CAD and Chief Architect have improved the builds on projects, unlike anything else before...They provide you with the perspectives, elevations and "in the footprint" assemblies so clearly...When I got into the business, in the 80's, everything was still hand drawn and mathematically engineered... The modern programs are so user friendly, as long as the user knows what the hell they're doing in the first place...:)...

@TheJoineryWorkshop 3 года назад

This has been the standard way of building stairs in the UK for well over 150 years. Whenever I post our srairbuilding methods to Facebook groups with American members, most of the comments are along the lines of "that's retarded", "too many parts", "never meet code", "too slow"....... It's great to see you adopting these methods and explaining the advantages. Keep up the good work 👍🏻

@NSBuilders 3 года назад

I’m on board with you guys. Better fit/finish

@scottwright388 2 года назад

I'm in the USA, and I started in stairs in 1988. Everything they are doing is basically how I learned. Straight stairs are somewhat boring to me, and I actually started with curved stairs, branching out from there.

@Grrrnthumb 3 месяца назад

These are gorgeous! But still I do like the fact that this confirms the old ways are still the best ways. All the fancy features they made up like the excessive wedge system & primer *underneath* glue joints, etc., all introduce micro-slop, which means they need a whole retrofit center stringer from excessive deflection, unlike the rock solid originals

@billymacmakes 3 года назад

Absolutely beautiful stairs!! Surprised that you could have a competitive bid for those - they look like they would cost a fortune!! I have a question for Nick concerning the "well cylinder" - what kind of seasonal wood movement can you expect from those staves after being glued up?

@louish.9414 2 года назад

Best carpenter class where your guys learn there skills I’m in process of building basement tricky stair’s

@johnfitzpatrick2469 3 года назад

G, day from Sydney, Australia * the craftsmanship and quality is second to none. * the cost of quality hardwood such as Tasmanian oak, maples and fine straight grain joinery timbers are becoming hard to source in Australia for low cost home builders. This adds a significant cost factor. * We use engineered board CNC machined or open tread stair in our project homes $140,000.00 ( that's the house price not land or tax in a outer suburb or new sub division). 🌏🇭🇲

@jamesmills6766 3 года назад

superb

@thadh4085 3 года назад

After watching this, a housed stringer would be the way to go. It would take a bit more time in prep, but the perfection you get makes the install so much easier than trying to do a non housed skirt on site. What books were read on this topic?

@TeslaBoy123 6 месяцев назад

Nice job 👍👍👍

@targetshooter3 3 года назад

housed stringers at wall with pl premium to glue wedges. no squeaks.. this vid shows stair work as it should be. nice.

@deejohnson5163 3 года назад

I'm wondering how it will support someone trying to drag a big safe to the bedroom ? You guys are next level for sure.

@snwman862 3 года назад

Looking through the comments on the housed stringer saying it's the way to go. Me over here in Ireland only doing housed stringers 😂 but then again stairs are built like this in Ireland all the time shop built and then fitted in on site.

@NSBuilders 3 года назад

Ha! You guys 🤘🏼

@flunder203 3 года назад

Same here toronto, ontario🇨🇮🇩🇪

@CMCraftsman 11 месяцев назад

Yeah it drives me nuts here in the states seeing people cutting 2x12 and covering those with all these pieces of Advantec and framing lumber and screws and just a bunch of unnecessary stuff to squeak and move under the actual finished treads and risers. Plus you lose head room under the stairs that way as well. It’s just a poor way of building stairs. Although I’m a one man show and I don’t build my stairs in the shop, I cut my parts in the shop and show up with them packaged like a kit and usually remove the temporary stairs and install mine in a day.

@CMCraftsman 11 месяцев назад

If anyone is interested in building stairs with housed stringers, I highly recommend the Trend Stair jig.

@ccwnyc5671 3 года назад

With the beveled edges so clean, seems a shame to paint. It's gorgeous work guys

@danf6070 3 года назад

Looks amazing but I'm genuinely confused about the curved detail and how it'll tie in with the rest of the staircase. I can't seem to visualize what it's supposed to look like when installed. Do you guys have some 3D renders you could show on the next Revealed? Also, I'd really enjoy more footage of the actual fabrication process, specifically how they located the stair routing template for each stair.

@ermannodangelo1062 3 года назад

Awesome build, can you show the jig that was used for the wedges. Will you do a video on the install.

@NSBuilders 3 года назад

Going in today!

@DmitriyKhazansky 2 года назад

Did you guys end up making an follow up video on the install of this stair? I looked through the channel and couldn't find it

@currymon 3 года назад

so f ing clean

@billystray7007 3 года назад

Im from Massachusetts and unless the stairs are round or bridal we build them ourselves on site , im told that in most other parts of the country they show up prefabricated...

@CanadianHardwoodPro 4 месяца назад

Can you ask Nick to give us the titles of the old stair builders' books?

@bigbob9702 3 года назад

Building them is one thing. How do you guys deliver and install? Especially if space is tight???

@mm-nyc 3 года назад

He answers that at right around 16:00. It breaks into 3 pieces.

@shootinblanks007 3 года назад

Very similar to how copper stair works in somerset builds

@Nicholas_gabriel 3 года назад

Are not treads housed on one side only ?

@malmcauliffe3288 3 года назад

Meanwhile in Australia, we've been doing internal stairs like that (housed stringers and wedges) for as long as i can remember. And never a centre stringer .

@NSBuilders 3 года назад

Excited to do more of these

@jeremycovelli 3 года назад

Looks fantastic and great craftsmanship however, none of this can be replaced in the future. So when these stairs get beat up over time, good luck trying to repair them.

@typetrie1453 3 года назад

Im a GC in Detroit. Just repaired and refinished a 130 year old staircase built just like this as part of a whole house renovation for a home built in 1890. The stairs had the wedges underneath, joinery and all. No middle stringer like they're talking about doing. They do get beat up over time and are to some degree irreparable but stringer wedges and the blocks underneath thru the middle can be replaced and secured. Of course you have to demo all the plaster around them. They show the wear and age but the craftsmanship shines thru. I cant guess how much longer they will last, Id say at least another 50 years as the house is owned by a monastery and the brothers/fathers will live there.. but 130 years alone is a good run.

@edwardpinto7018 Год назад

I restore these all the time. I just completely disassembled one, stripped it all, glued all the broken parts and re assembled it. I’ve also developed methods to address some of the inherent weaknesses these stairs have.

@silverfox8801 4 месяца назад

Pretty much how every staircase is made in the uk.

@joepagliaro2667 3 года назад

Hardest thing in construction is winder stairs. Change my mind

@nickgironda4002 3 года назад

The most difficult stair is one where either the top tread or the bottom tread is trapezoidal. This one has both.

@joepagliaro2667 3 года назад

@@nickgironda4002 first “trapezoidal” is a winder stair. So you are proving my point. The staircase in this video has two winder sections, made up of “trapezoidal” parts. So I’m saying this is the hardest thing to do right in construction.

@ColeSpolaric 3 года назад

What's a scorple 😂

@edwardpinto7018 Год назад

It’s so odd to me as a restorer to hear you ask if people are making housed stringer stairs or “traditional “ stairs. These housed stringer stairs ARE traditional stairs. That garbage people build now out of framing lumber and fitted skirt boards only got developed because people were too lazy to learn how to do this.