Short Sharp Shock 

Today usa be like thats 5-10 for way less.

This doc is sampled in an Analog Horror series and I posted the same quote.

totally agree, it worked for me because I had prospects on the out but the harder lads who had shit lives couldn't give a toss and when I was in it was coming upto Christmas and the Manchester riots happened and then they stopped shouting at us. Works for some.

yes,youre exactly right

That’s exactly what I thought, if I’d been released after a week I’d never have committed another crime again, but as it happened I did and ended up in Portland Borstal in 83-84. What a moron,

I was there in 81. In L and L dorm

I was in L and L 1985-86

81-82. I got my my mile down from 6:30 to 5:29. Benny hill stabbed me with a red biro at reception. Samways used to dish out massive hand whacks on bare backs for any misdemeanour during the day if he remembered. I was in the loom shop then kitchen. There was a PTI who came in and said “ my name is bastard and I’m going to prove it” some old duffer with a military number and blood group tattooed on his arm. As a green tie we got to see portable colour tv in association, Magnum PI Sunday night.

There in 87 pompey boy here 🤣

I was in Kidlington [campsfireld house] in 1977, it was harsh.

@@fivethumbsfrank I was in Portland HMP in 1991 , A regime totally built up around bullying a yp , they were horrible cunts, and it didn’t work, when I went back to jail in the mid 90s as an adult I met nearly every YP I knew when I was a kid.

Yep I was there in 82 and again in 83, I suppose you remember Sheriff and Morton the Gym Screws, at the start of every gym class, you lined up in the corridor and the screw would say run on the spot and then shout and sprint lol

@@adamroberts2354 Yes..... I remember Morton! Can't remember the name of the other gym screw but he was a nasty piece of work - he put me in the hospital for a week.

@@seansquire6020 Sherriff but that was in 1982

Your home life must have been terrible.

@richardbrooks5529 , Were BASTARD BOLTON , SNAKE CHARLES , W-ANCHOR WOODS , & ALVIN COO CA CHOO SHAW a gym bunny . , Still there then .

Benny Hill , CJ "Creeping Jesus" he was a landing screw in Winchester 4 years later, chalky white, donkey in the garden..

Does it work

Remember 'SWEATS' on the A-Dorm ...with the 'A' team??? - that SASQUATCH geyzer and that Hybrid between Freddy Mercury and a SPANISH Prison Officer in a Place for BAD BANDIDOS!!!

The ex sas guy must be same one as we had ,you say with a cain under his arm , as I was in feltham borstal in 76,77 and that’s got to be same guy

There was a mr Bryan or Bryant PTI he’s in the video at the beginning. But there was some old fucker with a bald head came in and shouted my name is bastard and I’m going to prove it, he had a military number and a blood group tattooed on his arm, Maybe it was him. He actually did prove to us that he was a bastard. The circuits were a minute on each station 3 times around or 15 reps on each. Christmas we had a bench press competition, I came 3rd with 200 pounds at a weight of 158 pounds.

HELLO, I WAS IN WHATTON IN 87 AND 88.

Seems like your doing well now....why did they close these places down...Seems like it worked

It doesn’t work. Nearly all of us were in trouble again.

The old bastard used to spit when he was talking to you old get

@@terrypotter8198 always had white foam in the corner of his mouth.

Hi buddy that benny hill did my reception. What a cunt. Pulled me earing out shaved off me blonde lox and punched me..like to see him now 😂😂

I was there in 1975 aged 14, horrible bully’s, I got battered and was in hospital for three days, they said I was attacked by a couple of lads, who they got to admit to it. I lost four days and they got an extra month. Lots of law suits against them going on. Eastwood park, Falfield, wooton under Edge. Never forgot it

I was there in 1974, awful place, still had nightmares about it for years . Brutality every minute of every day . If the truth ever came out every officer would be jailed. Enough said.

20 times Running around a field.... Circuit training.... Trenching and running all the time was quite tiring.

Samways dished out the slaps, we did 44 laps of the football field 8 miles for blue ties. But I think there was another routine of a lap then a circuit, then a lap then a circuit. Red ties had circuit training, it was fucking freezing, the winter of 81-82. Running round in a vest and shorts. I got 5p fine for dust on the bed frame. Saturday tea was awful. Boiled egg and 2 slices of bread and a round of margarine. Don’t make a sandwich, don’t rest elbows on table. And if they needed anyone for pot wash and no one had played up the SO would shout “ no body touch any part of your face or head” then they’d just wait a few seconds and catch someone scratching his nose and he’d be on pot wash or scrubbing.

K74102 Sir . anyone remember reception for new arrivals benny hill and samways tossing a coin on whos going to cut hair 🤣🤣

@@colinoconnell2910 Benny hill stabbed me with a red biro in reception, ( forgot to say sir). But some other little bloke dark hair and a big hooter cut my hair, he wasn’t too bad. Samways was just plain nasty.

So you were a lifer...

Me self and 2 mates got sent to this place for six weeks back in sept 87 we all came out of ther as fit as fuk i remember the gym teacher mister scully W 84256 bracken ....SIR

Spent a month here in Feb 1987 kids throwing Mars bars over fence when we were outside digging trenches

Sounds like north house feltham as I did the same floor with the sounds of it back then in 76 , 6 weeks then you got allocated a proper job if you could call it that

😂😂😂 I could have written that myself. Dec 81 to feb 82. While they filmed this. Yep push the beds back, 5 across on the knees 10x10x10 then move back till 5 more could get in , right down the dorm. Washing and shaving with doors opened and the gates closed and the wind whistling through, shirts off, it was brutally cold that winter. My mate was shovelling ice off the parade ground, I was warm in the kitchen.

@@thpxs0554 when you got sentenced dec81, i was already doing 1st month into my borstal at portland lol, take care m8

@@mrmyford portland ? I was there 83-84 . I was Rodney house orderly.

@@thpxs0554 done 81,82,83 in Portland borstal, 3 stints, 1st was 6months-2yrs, nov 81 -july 82 , then 4 month recall nov- feb 83, both grenville house, then came back 3rd time, just when they changed it over to yc, for a 9 month, in drake house may 83- oct 83, i was the education orderly, was well chuffed until a screw said i only got the job, because i know my way around lol, also the original photo they took when you first went in, ive still got that today i smuggled it out in the speaker of a small radio, after i told them i lost the original pass, and got a duplicate lol, happy new year 2023 m8

Same here mate , i done 14 days in solitary for 2 failed escapes 😅 I laugh now but it wasn’t funny then. I don’t know if I was totally blind to it but I never heard of any sexual abuse going on with the screws or brutality . I know people got punched and stuff myself included.

I was also in medomsley as a young lad, I never seen any sexual abuse either

your screw sounds like 'head on legs' he used to touch up the kids on night shift

Remember it well 89/90/91

I was there same year ... Blantyre stew was memorable

Was slater still there

Yes slater was at Blantyre House I met him again at Finnamore Wood Borstal where he worked after leaving BLANTYRE HOUSE

Then it had the desired effect Dean... Prison or a good woman...I had the latter ... Stay lucky

I was there also 18980. Got an extra 3 days for fighting in the workshop. You remember cleaning out the screws bar in the mornings. Bags of fag ends and slips of beer. Classy

chain link fencing when I was in there,you had to do so many feet per day

@@philwise872 I was on looms making green blankets in '82.

Jan 78 I was in Aldington some screws were ok most were ex military who wouldn’t think twice about a punch in the gut when checking fingernails before lights out. I once saw “lofty”, if it’s the same one in other threads, huge screw ex military used to wear his medal ribbons on his uniform completely knockout a young black fella for trying to incite a riot in the canteen with a single punch….. certainly quietened down after that. My first offence certainly worked for me never re-offended.

I remember him, yellow hair and "paki Sus" Pakistani screw on Nightshift. 1984

K74464 sir. Yep Samways with his slaps, Berry, I think he was a PTI ? Benny Hill, the kitchen screw was Sam, he went to Reading prison later . Chalky white, he had a freak out cos my mate kept turning the wrong way in marching. He was raging like a lunatic, went to the loom shop and came back with chalk and put L and R on Steve’s boots, but he was so nervous he looked down turned correctly then spun back round. Chalky white tried to strangle the bloke next to me in the second rank cos he couldn’t stop smiling at stupid Steve. Who was the garden screw used to ride around on an old post office cycle painted black. Pritchard I think.

I remember Sexton, he was a big bastard and his little Geordie mate, Sirstiff or similar, both a pair of cunts...

I was at Campsfield House, Kidlington, Oxfordshire in 1981. Never any radios issued there. There was plenty of Yes Sir, No Sir, Three Bags Full Sir!! lol...🤣

NO, if you was on remand you could have a radio AM/LW only no FM, but soon as you were sentenced to DC, the radio went in your property

K74464 sir, Loom shop making green bed spreads, then I got kitchen cos I was an apprentice butcher .

@@thpxs0554 do you remember 'the sweats' on A dorm? ...with Freddie Mercury and Sasquatch? ...known as the 'A Team' ....getting to C dorm was a buzz......

@@MEANASSJAMSTER I don’t remember those 2 but we did get full Saturday kits to do over and over from 9pm cos when the screw said no talking some twat said “ goodnight sir” and he had us all up for 2 hours. Once I got from loom shop to kitchens I was set, cos we got up earlier to make breakfast and did less PE and on daily inspections we weren’t there. So the PO or governor, who ever did it usually walked past. But I got a fine for dust on the bed frame. I thought the dorms were named after famous naval men, rather than ABC, but I went to Portland borstal after and the houses were definitely name that way. Drake ,Hardy, Rodney, Nelson, etc. My mate got caught shaving without the blade fitted coz he didn’t need to shave and kept cutting his spots, the screw caught him and made him shave by numbers over and over, his face was red raw and blood dripping. He also had a bad gut and he’d been going to the night toilet but after 3 visits he got caught short and shit the bed. He tried to hide the sheet under the bed but it was obvious it was missing from his bed-box, when he had to tell the screw he’d shit the bed and hidden the sheet you could hear a pin drop, it was dead silent in the dorm. The screw threw a fit like a maniac,

There was a Coldstream Guardsman in there doing 3 months, Willis his name was. He was 21 I think, shouldn’t have been there . I think he’d been in Colchester military prison then discharged , and sentenced by magistrates to 3 months. The short sharp shock was literally nothing to him, he’d had a meeting with the governor and said the governor thought he shouldn’t be there. He suddenly disappeared after 2 weeks. I suspect the governor spoke to the home office and he got moved to adult jail. He was about 6 feet 3 about 16 stone and the screws treated him differently. Nice bloke though,

@@thpxs0554 SATURDAY KITS? ....proper stitch up ....did you have Sunday kits as well? ...and yeah, I remember 'next bar steward to tork gits andred pressapps!'

No 1973 Whatton DC Nottingham 👊🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿👍

Same here mate !!

@@gregspencer5677 what the same time ?

Yeah I remember send the screws were child abusers, I was there jan-Feb 81 was also at a approved skool too Finnart hse Weybridge, Unfortunately those places were ex army so those in charge were violent narcissistic Controller violent abusers, in send they a super screw and a Pt with a birth mark called seeking im guessing you was there summer 81

Kung foo

Yeah, Glenochill 1978

Mair ...Murphy...geordie bedblock...Kung fu

81

I was MO5192, must have been there around same time as you, oh how I miss laying out those sunday kits for inspection, even remember my kit No, 54

I was in there for 3 months in 1966, hard place. I was threatened with gate arrest if i didn't own up to other crimes but I kept my mouth shut and it didn't happen, but I was shitting myself over it. Not sure if it was the same PE screw, small stocky bloke and we were told he was ex mercenary. So glad to get out of the place and I never went back into an institution so I guess it worked.

@@paulthepill I was there in 1982. 2 screws in the workshops called Fuck-up and Lofty who loved to bully young kids.

@@Retrobeemer Jesus...lofty must of been ancient in 82, it's was called weavers 1 then, he had a boat moored in Folkestone harbour and I remember a new kid coming into workshop and lofty asked him where he was from, the kid said Folkestone, lofty said, I thought I recognized you, you used to throw pebbles at me from the harbour arm, the kid turned white, he got some shit from lofty. By all accounts it was one of the better centres, there was a lot of sexual abuse in the other ones, but I did see some bad beatings from the screws in Aldington

@@paulcaney6284 I got shipped down from Holandsy Bay for doing a runner. I arrived around midday and the reception screw put me straight into the population without the usual reception beasting because he knew I was local. A genuinely decent bloke! I didn't understand why I was dressed head to toe in red though and then someone explained I was in runners gear! After a few weeks they took me out of it and I was ok apart from the episode in the 'treatment room' when Fuck-Up and Lofty were screaming at me and a young traveller kid to hit them. They knew we wouldn't obviously. I remember them coming and being all matey just before discharge. I guess they didn't want kids looking for revenge.

@@Retrobeemer Three if us arrived late in the evening at reception, another bloke arrived at the same time do we were all dealt with at the same time, the bloke was inducted first and when he gave his d.o.b everything stopped, he'd turned 20 a couple of days before his case came up and the courts didn't pick up on this so he should have been sent to prison as he was now too old for DC...he looked at the screws and the police who'd bought him down there and said, you've fucked up, so you better let me out now as I can't be tried again, I burst out laughing and received a massive slap to the back of my head...it was worth it though

Glenochil DC 1981

I was there 84/85 in cosford unit,got my city and guilds bricklaying,Ken Harvey was the Instructor,great bloke.

I did a runner and got shipped out to Aldington instead.

I was there 78- 79, 6 months, Bosmere & Hartsmere House, the gym teacher Mr Murgatroid was a c**t !

+roger lentell Me too, i was 19, Remember that screw called Benny hill? well, it did the job for me :-)

+Ricky Spanish yea mate and his mate

+roger lentell you can rent the full film for £1 if you're interested guys - vimeo.com/ondemand/shortsharpshock You can watch it as many times as you like within the 48 hours of purchasing it

Yeah Benny hill and Hitler never forget the slaps at shave time ,god the things that went on there

oh yes the cunts

Sir

That’s a Reading prison number. Were you remanded. I had L53439. May to oct 83 then portland

Bunny hops down the M1.

Rambo, is that you???? Nah, more like Walter Mitty

I spent my whole youth from kids homes at 11 to these shit wholes 3 times .What brain box though a short sharp shock would make any difference to a condition lad of years of it I don't know.Most of the Lads you came across in these places were good lads that had no decent guidance and role models .A good dad to show them the way .They always won in the end if you kicked off .Because the places were full of sickos who love punishment handing out .Just gave them what they wanted .Hazlar was easy time compared to Usk .Usk in Wales was different. All Wesh from the inmates to the screws and they hated the English .They had a great punishment. Two 50 ton piles of concrete 1/4 a mile apart and a wheel barrow. All weather's and all day till sundown and sun up .Nobody's beating that .Refuse and slap slap and stay there .

E98028 Sir, 39 years ago.....yr not wrong!

@@Phil-tb2yz 43 yrs ago, 9 months @ Aldington DC, done 27 weeks..fittest I've ever been..lol