While during lovesick girls era i still felt their chemistry and them just having fun, born pink era felt like they were truly 4 soloists doing a collab. Especially their choreos with tons of backup dancers, making them rarely interact, if even have all of them on stage at the same time. It's really upsetting seeing that their verses are not just them being the center, but literally being the only one dancing with some backup dancers. I think YG could've handled this way better, at least like HYLT or Lovesick girls, where the dancers only came in during the dancebreak.
@@vixxexo6855 Yeah, but they have more members and the "solo" segments are brief and exciting. They fit in the song and they actually need those moments to stand out. Blackpink only has 4 members, so even when they're all dancing together they all stand out. There's no need to make only one member dance during their part to focus on them, because they would still stand out just as much with all of them dancing.
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Unlike many say I actually think bp had a lot notable stand points to them when they began. Cause having been in the kpop space where back in the day as a female, you were either a pretty idol who is an eye candy performer with sweet cute choreo or artistically and musically inclined idol that didn't have to fit into a lot of the kpop visual, behavioural and dress code norms. A good example is 2ne1. Bp was a decent mix of both except for the artistically inclined bit. And that's where the mistake on yg's behalf arised. I cant begin to imagine how frustrating it would be to have lyrics that constantly exude the 'I am this' 'I am that' narrative without being able to represent your story and then being asked what your process and your journey is. The number of times I have come across interviews where deep music or artist related question are answered by the members, with respect to the dress or makeup, is straight sad! If YG ever gave them that space to think, what is the essence of bp having those 'dollar bills that keep dropping', or 'bring money to your table, not your dinner' or 'All of these girls on some uppercase shit That mean they all cap' etc. Cause these are big statements that would essentially come from an experience that makes you react a certain way or make such statements. We don't even know how much each member of bp even associates personally to the statements in their own songs. Cause their is a huge identity crisis around bp and the girls really need to find the best space to express their own voice. Whether the be a group or not.
I can also see the music parts on their solo career. All of them have started their career with 2 songs. Which is not a good start it does not tell who they are as artist, it says nothing. It feels like they were there for 2 weeks and then dissapeared again in the dungeon. And also if they want a serious Solo career, Blackpink has to die. Like imagine waiting 7 years for two songs. And having a fanbase that loves you when you are together, but 3/4 hate you when you do solo stuff. I mean their career will always bee minimun, because they need to look out for the others that everything is fair. And then it takes ages for one songs.... if I would be them I be out. That has to be so frustrating just to drive circles in your career.
@@lucycarlay8547 agreed. Solos for me was the most dissapointing. Because that was the area were people started their substance-less tracks as being a prime example of female empowerment. Especially with Lisa's track. Like if it was part of an album that really dives deep into her feelings her journey, even her genuinely good dance skills then ok. But otherwise I was like is that it lisa? That's all to you? I would love to believe not. Especially considering how versatile she can be in her dance films (trully some of the best of her works). Not that the jennie and Rose's solos were ok with just a typical love and breakup song but it was atleast believable. Then what was so frustratingly dissapointing was jisoo's solo. Here solo debut named 'me' gave me so much hope. And yet it ended with an ok song (that had potential to be better if it was extended to a bridge and outro with more space for lyricism). Jisoo might not be the most charismatic. But she has a kind of elegance only she posses in bp. Her acting career, her life as the oldest, her role in bp, what working in the industry is like etc. There is so much each of them can use to put into their music. That's why I find it so cringe. Cause they wanna come across as these ultimate power girls. But a persona with no substance is not a powerful mature women. There is so much to a woman than being bossy, love life and getting branded clothes.
me personally i would be kinda surprised if they wanted to renew considering all they’ve been through but i really would love to see them stay a group. similar to you bp was my first ever girl group and i love them so much, i just couldn’t picture them not staying blackpink.
Personally I think they are going to renew their contract. However their schedule will probably be the same or worse since baby monster is coming soon and YG is not able to promote and handle more groups at one time and baby monster needs to make a name for themselves in their rookie years to put them out there so there will be more focus on them for the first year or two so we might not see any music from blackpink in those years. Business wise letting the girls go will be a bad idea because at the moment they are YGs money makers and if baby monster doesn’t do well it can be a big backlash if YG lets them go. Overall I think that if they do renew their contract will may be a bad decision if YG doesn’t get better at promoting groups at the same time but if they do renew I wish they start anew with a new concept or different sounding music because I would say that renewing a contract is like starting anew and their image at the moment is their downfall personally because there isn’t much room to grow from that image
I think there's a bigger chance for the members renewing their contracts as soloists than as 4 for Blackpink. If they renew i think YG has to discuss a HUGE deal (considering that a lot of compañies want Blackpink), for them to stay together bcuz Blackpink are the main reason why YG hasn't fall off. * Somi is M.I.A (where tf it's Somi?) * iKon, BigBang, and 2NE1 aren't a part of the company * Treasure is now having a grip on the K-Netz * And Seungri......we're not going to discuss that
Somi is under a TBL which is sub label of YGE, but they are doing their own things. Kinda like Ador and HYBE. Taeyang moved to TBL and he's getting an album this month.
I don't think blackpink have lost passion for music, I just think they don't like the publicity and popularity their music has got them. Maybe they didn't want to be this big, or wanted to be known for much more than they are currently. They're so big and famous, the most known kpop girl group of all time, but they barely have any music out, compared to newer groups.
It’s crazy bc yg have announced new tour dates after their contracts expire. They probably could negotiate new terms with yg tho. Yg announced that there artists are going to have more frequent comebacks probably bc Blackpink asked for it and they followed through
Some people say they should go to another company but if they do they won't have the same success. The reason BP is what they are today is because (mainly) of YG, the company had all the conections in the music, media and fashion industry (in and outside of Korea) to give them deals and projects. The girls haven't produce or write a song all by themselves in their almost 7 years of career, their music, asthetic and success was made by their company. If they go to another company they won't chart, have the same amount of views or their characteristic sound because the members itself haven't shape none of that, it was all shaped by their company. Don't think I'm hating on them but it's the truth and let me give a comparison... If groups like BTS, GIDLE, Stray Kids and SVT change company you won't see that much difference when it comes to their music, success or group as a whole since all of those groups are self produce, they've been working on their music since the begining so they know how to do it since they have a lot of experience. But if a group like BP that is used to all the benefits of being in a company like YG, changes, (they won't do it) it would be like a 25 year old walking for the 1st time after being used to be carried around their whole life, it doesn't mean they can't learn how to but it'll be hard for them.
I agree with you but also disagree at some point. I think its a 50 50 contribution, YG has other artist but ask yourself why are they not achieving same hings or famous as blackpink? Teddy's type of hip hop together with the girls very own charisma especially Lisa draws a lot of people to the group. I tell you this because I am a kpop stan and where I come from there are not much kpop stans and people tease me for liking kpop gg because they view the cute thing girls do childish but play a blackpink MV they always ask who that girl?(Lisa) or ask is this really kpop?
@@khansawuabu-muzakir184 well, BP debuted in 2016 and that was the year when kpop started to spand more globally so that helped them a lot, we can't compare BP with their senior YG groups since they Debuted in completely different eras. Second, the reason they are more successful than the others YG groups is because YG knew how to market them and kept them in the spotlight even when they didn't released any music, you're right the members helped a lot thanks to their talent and personalities but the real mastermind is still YG, that's why I'm saying BP won't be the same without YG and viceversa, they need each other in order to keep the status they have.
It Is always a 50/50 thing, artist/producer/company….it is like that since day 1, 1950s til now, good company / managers who knows what to do then you are the lucky artist/group. Blackpink is lucky in that sense. No none of the boy bands and girl groups including those you mentioned are capable to survive on their own and that’s just the nature of boy bands and girl groups, their forte is not the songwriting department, they don’t know how creating music from scratch cos they don’t actually play instruments. Well looking good and dance good , that’s the most important, well artist’s longevity is questionable in that sense, but who’s caring about that now, no one cos that’s not the important factors NOW. Blackpink is able to be the most popular girl group now is not because of just the music, it can’t be, there’s better music out there for sure. YG knows exactly the girls are unique, each have their own distinctive characters, and this is definitely a selling point (look at Beatlemania, John Paul George and Ringo as example) and fans buy that , and fans are not stupid, especially these days , we want the real you, not the manufactured you. That is why Blackpink is successful. And RU-vid, TikTok, Instagram, Facebook, these platforms helps to expose that a great great deal. YG may be the mastermind , but if they have a group with no personalities, then is not going to work for them as well, so there is no mastermind here, it’s just god playing chess making things works, we are just lucky to have them. And the scale of phenomenal success that Blackpink achieved, it have reached to a point of no longer the scenario you are trying to portray. YG is just a vehicle for them, Blackpink is the driving force. Let’s not forget that if a group is not as likable as Blackpink, no matter how hard YG try to push, is going to be a moot point.
Wait I thought in a podcast they insinuated they didn't write the lyrics or anything else besides sing. But they added their ideas? If yes that would be nice
This has been a weird subject for me to think about , because blackpink is the first kpop group I stanned,I love the members, the songs are- okay, but for me , even though I’m not into them that much anymore , they hold a special place in my heart yk? I say they SHOULD renew. They all do seem like they are still interested in being a part of the group, but what people don’t see is that they all aren’t interested in the SAME thing. Lisa is interested more into dance,jennie is focused I guess on her performing/rap(?) rosé is interested into her vocals/song writing, jisoo- maybe also vocals? Im not a expert on vocals but I THINK jisoo improved a little on her vocals then before? People think that every member of a group has to be extraordinary at everything, now that many clips of jennie being lazy have went viral, they think that they just don’t care. Like you said, they are honestly a pillar of kpop in the west. If they disband, for a while I think kpop will not be that influential in the west,since bts is on hiatus for enlistments,maybe twice and (possibly newjeans) will be the groups for the west. But the concept of blackpink made it so marketable in the west, once twice does one song that’s cuter, it won’t be so marketable in the west, same for newjeans, except only the MEMBERS are are marketable in the west, not really their songs tbh. But I think, even if blackpink renews, comebacks will be very unfrequent. YG is pushing everything on to baemon rn, with baemon in the spotlight of YG, blackpink won’t be “neglected” but definitely not as promoted anymore . So, in conclusion, I say blackpink SHOULD renew ❤ (My opinion , not hate to anyone else❤ )
For the introduction part, that's exactly my case too. And sadly that makes me have so many mixed feelings... On the one hand i want the best for the girls, on the other hand i just can't see the industry go further without them but... It's not like they have that much of an impact anymore either, nor do i LOVE their songs anymore. They just mean a lot to me and so many other ppl out there since it's what got them into the whole genre... With the debut of babymonster getting in the way as well, i honestly don't know... Either way, even if I don't LOVE THEM PASSIONATELY anymore, i still care about them.
Honestly, I’m so torn on this topic. I worry that if they renew they will be dragged down the same way 2ne1 was, given the bare minimum of comebacks and music (more so than usual) once the new girl group debuts. I see a lot of talk about them joining the Black Label but that doesn’t mean their treatment will get any better and they’ll still be under the musical direction of Teddy, who at this point has really done nothing to experiment with or expand their sound. Part of me thinks they should just do their own thing. If they don’t renew and decide to go solo, I do think they’ll find success because they’re all immensely talented. But it’ll also be so sad and disappointing because I don’t want to see them disband. Maybe they won’t; iKON didn’t disband for example. Maybe they wouldn’t in this situation either, but (with their recognition, popularity, and royalties they get from their name alone) I just can’t picture them being allowed to take their name, music, or group concept with them when they leave. That being said, I think they have the talent and fan support to start over and still prove to be a massive success. Whatever happens, I wish these four girls the best.
I agree on a lot of the points you've mentioned here. Each member as soloists are great, I sometimes think that the current setup of BP boxes them in too much and limits them a lot. Just not sure if all of them will renew, because if they don't it kinda defeats the purpose of renewing. What I kinda resent is how YGE keeps toying around the renewal "news", because IMO they don't have a lot of relevant stuff to keep people interested in the company. Until GD releases his new album or BaeMon debuts, they will keep things all up in the air to maintain investor interest. Regardless, I expect even lesser comebacks from BP if they renew because of BaeMon debut(less pressure, YGE focus more on the new group) and more solo activities(modeling and maybe even performing). I don't actually know how it would look like and am curious to find out, as it would be a first time for the company to have 2 GGs if ever. But if they ever renew, I hope they are given more opportunities to express creative liberties in the music they put out.
Whether or not they should, I definitely think they will because where else would they go? All their popularity comes from them as a group especially modeling wise. I genuinely don't see any of them going sol, acting wise I jisoo is safe but with the shitshow of Sam levinson I don't about Jennifer's acting debut. In the end their popularity comes from BEING blackpink so I think they'll milk for a few more years until they get more secure backup plans with or with out passion
i’m absolutely surprised reading the comments here. i think they will renew. ideally i think if they renew they will have better conditions in their contracts about their direction.
Lisa and Jennie would do well as soloists in Kpop; Rose is the best singer in the group imo but I think she wants to do different types of music: Jisoo has an ok voice but she really lacks in stage presence, charisma and dance ability. She’s better off as an actress and/or model
Blackpink has revolutionized K-Pop in the west, but I think from a few research and individual surveys, they are not as favored internally in Korea as they are in the west (please correct me if I’m wrong), and to me as a multi-stan, Blackpink really losing touch to what being an Idol truly is, I mean, we can see groups like Twice (as a 3rd gen comparison) trying out new things comebacks to comebacks and sometimes that new things are distinct, even Nayeon’s solo album in my subjective opinion beats every BP’s solo projects, the point that I’m trying to imply, being a boy/girl group really relies on the state of the company and the talent themselves and with YG and Blackpink, they are in the phase of just milkinh everything before they’re irrelevant, it’s no fun anymore
I think they should disband because Rosé wants freedom to release music Lisa wants to experiment with herself Jennie is an allrounder she can do much better without YG Jisoo ...... Ahh I guess she joined YG because she wanted to act but YG pushed her in Blackpink.
i don't think they should renew. yg has done them dirty and i know they can have successful careers as soloists in their own companies. :/ such a shame...
Blackpink really are stepping in a new direction ever since born pink, i think i can see all of them renewing their contracts with YG and negotiating this time around. Also YG is a very good company, you can say what you want, but they are self sustainable ,they have a lot of subsidiaries...more than half of the kpop albums are made by YG, you'll see a Yg symbol in albums of groups like BTS,IVE...etc. YG gives their artists stability so i think blackpink will have a more stable and safe career if they stick to YG by negotiating with them about freedom to release music
I think they will renew or move to the black label. Blackpink have been super successful with the way they are managed and are still seen as the IT girl group in the west. I think the girls have more of a passion for music then they ever had personally. They seem to feel more comfortable writing in recent years. I think their passion for performing has gone down but I wouldn’t say that’s enough of a reason to disband. I also find the whole “they should disband” argument a bit stupid. It’s just patronising imo to tell grown women what they should do and how they don’t care for themselves is they don’t. These girls could be getting treated like royalty behind the scenes and we wouldn’t have a clue. They could resign for reasons outside of music. The pay, work environment, work friends or even the concept. Has no one thought maybe they enjoy the teddy sound and basic YG concept? Idk I could be totally in the wrong here but the disbanding discussion I feel always centres around people claiming they know how the girls feel when we may never know why they make whatever choice they will make in August.
I honestly think Blackpink could’ve been so much bigger than they are. They could’ve been the next big girl group after Destiny’s child and Spice girls. They are already big, but with the right promotions and music this group could’ve been so much bigger. Unfortunately, they peaked in 2020 and YG messed up this Born Pink era
News flash: music is subjective it may not be in your liking but others like it. I like Blackpink music. It's catered to me. I AM the target listener and so are the others out there. I'm not even disappointed for them as a solo artists cause all their solos hits to me. As a group, I don't see them not having chemistry nor having any passion in music. However, I do think we viewed things in different lenses, a very very different lenses. Also, I would like to have a blackpink & babymonster interaction. Hoping for a proper sister ggs in that company especially with what happened 7yrs ago, yg just threw 2nei under the bus (massive disrespect). Yeah, I want them to renew as a group. As Jisoo said recently, they know that they go down eventually since they've reached the peak of their career but what makes them feel secured is other gg will go up and will continue to spread kpop and the korean culture. With that in mind, I do believe bp members know what they want to do next be it as a group or as a solo artists.
BP is way better at performing on stage than kpop stans give them credit for. People judge them based on music shows and 15 second clips from their concert. Most of the hate has been from people who a) didn't go to the shows and b) already dislike the girls.
I don’t know how hot of a take this is sooo… We’ll call it “luke-warm”. I don’t think that Blackpink is sick of being artists. I think they’re sick of being idols. What do I mean? What’s the difference? Being an idol is so structured and precise. You aren’t given much room for artistic freedom. When you see a lot of their performances when they seem happiest, they’re not in the middle of a choreographed routine. They’re messing around, dancing how they want, walking around the stage, etc. i think they want to keep performing (and possibly being a group). But they want more creative freedom to express themselves how they want. In a similar vein to Twice renewing their contracts out of love for being a group, I think BP will follow a similar path. But I think they’re going to negotiate things with YGE to let them do what they want on their own terms (just like how Twice hasn’t had a million comebacks between 2022-2023 compared to 2016-2021. I think they told JYPE “We know that you want us to stay with the company. And we’ll do so under the condition that you stop overworking us.” I think BP could do something similar in maybe having more comebacks. But yeah, for as much grief as I have with YGE, I don’t think they’re disbanding yet. My main concern is that these renewals are usually only for 3-4 years. So, I don’t know how much longer it’ll be until we’re having this conversation again. I’m just hoping for the best at this point.
I actually agree with this. Was constructing my comment a while ago, however, I’m not very good in elaborating my opinion. 😂 this comment pretty much explains my thoughts. 😊
all i’m saying is. if they gave af about their fans and the lack of creative control they have, they would leave. them staying shows that they’re satisfied with the bare minimum that they’ve been doing for the past 7 years
wdym creative control. Rose and Lisa wrote their solos, Rose even said it took her years to get it just right... and Jennie and Jisoo have worked on other songs too (like they said in the video). And they seem to have a lot of control in their individual career. To me, it just sounds like fans complaining that they aren't getting what they want so they're throwing a childish temper tantrum. It's their career, not yours.
@@randomkid4783 you realize that even adding one line to a song you’ll immediately get credits. if writing a solo tool YEARS then that just shows that 1. they’re not being taken seriously 2. they aren’t THAT invested in the writing process bc if they were a song like gone should not have took more than 2+ years to write 💀 and overall their lyrics are the bare minimum if i’m being honest. yes they have that women empowerment feel but they don’t get deeper into it.
@@cherrybxmb18 ok you literally have no idea about the writing process do you then? I’m literally starting to write for my own songs (not posting them anywhere because still new to it) but anyone can write lyrics. But quality lyrics takes time. 1) learning lyricism is a skill which is why it takes time for people to learn it… which is why idols like Idle’s Soyeon are so incredibly talented to be doing it so early in their career. 2) for Rose’s writing style, it’s so much more in depth. Rewrites after rewrites to get the proper emotion, feeling, and message across. That takes lots of time, and once you have all the lyrics together. You have to write keys and everything. Saying that them taking too long means they aren’t interested is literally demeaning them as artists. Are you saying that most western artists are bored with music because they don’t pop out music every 2 years… no! So sit down and shut up
It is not really that simple as "shows that they’re satisfied with the bare minimum". 2NE1 was mistreated as hell and even worse than Blackpink is, and even then, 3/4 renewed their contract when it was over (one of them being CL, who was also mistreaded regards her solo career). YG can make a lot of promises (they love doing that) and it is not Blackpink fault if they believe it will change.
No, they shouldn't. I am a blackpink stan but no. They don't even look excited to be idols anymore. They don't even give their full effort. I respect anybody's opinion, but I don't think they are going to renew. Just my random opinion.
agreed, as someone who isn't a stan but likes the girls individually. they just don't seem interested in their career or in the kpop industry as a whole.
i hope they dont but im afraid they will. they dont seem interested in this at all anymore, but money wise it would be stupid for them not do it. i hope they dont sell out.
@Taejiu They probably would stop being an idol and focus on their own careers, like we might see rosè stay an idol and do solo projects, but jisoo might want to do acting again, jennie be a model, and lisa might want to become a solo dancer and become more professionaland make that her career. We just don't know yet...😅
I think they're going to resign because of how YG has handled them. Surprisingly not in a bad way. While solo stans are annoying, they have set up solo careers. Lisa could become a mentor in YG, Jennie too although she could do anything from modeling to being a soloist, Rose is most likely going to become a soloist and Jisoo an actress with comebacks here and there like how SNSD does.
Honestly, I'm in the middle. I love all of the members, some more than others, but I do really enjoy them, but individually. They've never been promoted as a group, their vocals, personalities, and personal styles are all different and that's what YG has been pushing these few years. Unique girls who came together as the ultimate group. I don't think any of them have any passion for music anymore, Lisa is a dancer with tons of influence in K-pop today, Jennie is a top model with many brand deals and pretty much never scandal-free, Rose is a vocalist who loves interacting with fans and is more "free" than the other members, and Jisoo is an actress with much potential in her years ahead. They seem like really good friends, but they don't seem to be a "group" anymore, Blackpink has become a brand, not a K-pop group. With the big competition right now with many new rookies, Blackpink won't stand a chance without their popularity. Their music isn't good, they usually have the same concept and formula, and they don't stand out anymore. If BP renews their contract (which is most likely, but I doubt they'll do anything new), I hope they use their old teen crush concept, since it was fun and actually had good music in that era. I wish BP nothing but the best, but they seem...old. With new groups that are twisting the classic "better than you" concept, I think Blackpink won't stand out without their Blinks streaming and listening to their music.
To say BlackPink isn’t gonna be able to compete with new generation of idols is simply incorrect. Those groups aren’t even able to compete with BP 3 years ago, let alone now. Let’s not forget BP is the most subscribed artists on youtube, have the most streamed music video by a kpop group, they’ve got arguably the biggest female artists of this decade on their discographies (dua, selena, gaga and cardi b), literally the most streamed girl group on any platform, best selling album by a female kpop group, the profit they make from a single instagram post makes them more money than most idols do performing, they have sold out tours, a netflix doc, headlining the most elite music festival in history, ambassadors for the biggest fashion houses in the world, jennie’s show will be on a the most elite hollywood network starring the most popular male artist in this generation and much more. if you seriously think bp is gonna wither away so easily with their global success then idk what to tell you because no kpop girl group is going to be able to replace them considering they’re literally now the most prominent girl group in the world and being compared to 5H, Little Mix, Spice Girls, Destiny’s Child. It’s simply not possible.
@@lechatnoir482 exactly, i don’t think these people understand that blackpink’s rookie numbers were higher globally than more recent kpop group’s despite the advantage of the barriers being lifted up for them to promote anywhere. people are so quick to have an opinion despite factoring in all the statistics that say otherwise.
@@user-il1ey2ur3x honestly, 3rd gen is still kicking Seventeen is taking wins left and right, Exo is going to comeback, if Bts and Blackpink get a comeback it will sweep the charts, forget about them if Bigbang or Girls Generation have a comeback the 4th gen rookies would be in trouble lol I am not saying this to belittle 4th gen groups achievements people just don't see that older generation groups are still prevalent in the industry. Also, 4th gen isn't finished yet Babymonster is going to debut, NewJeans and TripleS are really promising rookie groups we have a long way to go still.
Here are my thoughts: If the Blackpink girls were really serious about continuing in music (who knows if they are), they would not resign with YG because it's clear that YG doesn't really give a fuck unless it's important to them. The girls would go to a company who would let the Blackpink girls do whatever they want. They have the worldwide recognition, so it would surprise me if other companies DON'T want any of the members under their roaster. If they do resign with YG, I think that proves my suspicion that they don't care what they do unless it makes them money, and because of their insane fanbase and the unusual business practices of YG, they can make millions of won by barely doing anything at all. (And those are the kinds of artists that really piss me off because there are artists out there who actually care more than they do when it comes to the music they make, but they don't get jackshit out of it.)
i think this could be true, but don't forget that this time around blackpink has the most power during negotiations, now yg needs blackpink not the other way around ang I'm sure they are many other companies that would like to sign them
I think they can renew the contract and stay with YG if they can negotiate to have more comebacks and solos and have more says with the songs they release.
I mean it would suck to rename the group while their whole branding was about blackpink colors. People are forgetting that YG hold rights to BLACKPINK name and branding
I’m a very “defensive” blink myself and me personally, I think they should probably disband. I’ve been a fan for years and the sadness in their eyes whenever fans ask for music a few years back, breaks my heart, these girls gave away their lives for this! Every kpop idol did. I think the pinks are just used to their mistreatment by now and honestly yeah if it was me and I was forced to stay quiet and not being able to pursue my passion I’m gonna be burnt out too! The whole mess in the first few born pink concerts makes me wanna give these girls a hug. They had a comeback after 2 years of no music and people expected them to put on their best game but instead we got that! And people were visibly not happy. I know these girls can shine more, they have more, they’re very talented and deserve everything they have now. And YG clearly does not understand that so yeah disbanding might be their best option if YG doesn’t let these girls have creative control. That was a rant I’m sorry I respect your video amazing job! :)
They might be less passionate but I just don't see what they could do afterwards that would be bigger. Semi-retire and work on passion projects? Their relevancy will quickly diminish without blackpink.
I always flip flop on what I think the members will do. I think that they do still have love for what they do, but 7 years is a lot and a lot of idols choose to move on with a fraction of BP's success. They do love music but YG seemingly has stifled any creative expression or any artistic growth from them. Then again, they're rich as hell and it's thanks to their talents (ofc) but also the way YG marketed them. I think I'd be more surprised if they don't renew but even if they did renew I don't see YG changing their marketing tactics or allow more comebacks unless the members themselves fight hard for that.
I don't mind either way, I just hope that when they continue their music careers they get to release more music and actually build the discography that they want. If that's under YG I hope they get to write a clause in their contracts about the frequency of comebacks. If it's outside of YG, I hope they find themselves a great management and production team that can give them the environment to produce their own music.
I'm going to surprised either way. If they renew or don't. Whatever happens I will be shocked. If they renew I will be keen on looking what they will be doing in the future and what other world records they will break and achievements they will get. If they don't renew, I will be interested to what ways they separate. Will they all leave the kpop industry or will some of them stay? What will they do? I'm pretty neutral on them renewing or not, but I think yg will do everything to make them renew. And if they couldn't manage blackpink as a single group with four members, how will they manage 2 groups with one being the biggest and the other having like 7 members. I feel like they will be better not to, but I really don't know.
I feel they will not renew .. theres this aura or vibe that they don’t like to be in a group anymore. Especially Rose I feel like she’s going to do her own thing and cant wait to disband. Sometimes I fell like she tries to overpower other members which is also a form of insubordination. Jisoo also has a feel like she wants to do other things aside from being an Idol. Jennie Will definitely going to Hollywood and pursue something else. Lisa I think … I don’t really anything from her lately. In short its like the fire they use to have is expiring. So brace yourselves Blinks . We never know.
I honestly think rose would do great as a singer I love her voice and originality it is to it you can know that's she's the one singing just by hearing her, honestly I can see also jisoo acting in kdrama she's very talented and it will give her the time to work more on her acting after beint a successful idol...As for Jennie I see her doing a career as a model I think It would fit her well because she has the style and fashion for it and Lisa think I would see her own dancing class place where she teaches others how to dance because that's something she's incredible at
“If they aren’t passionate about music why are they still making music” Well they don’t exactly have a choice, like you said, contracts. Plus their involvement in the music itself doesn’t exactly show enthusiasm or interest at all. They’re given the music, they sing it, all done for the day. I think if they renew or not will reflect on what they really want If they renew, they’re happy with the formula of 1 album every two years comeback and doing very little music If they don’t, they aren’t satisfied with the level of music and creative decisions and involvement in their own music and would like to do more individually or do their own thing
Not renewing with YG would be the dumbest decision.. These girls are earning lots of money, getting brand deals left and right in the name of blackpink with a bare minimum of work. If i was one of them i would be happy with yg. They are partying, going tours and coming back after 1-2 years, getting ready made songs for them and then will make money again Because blinks will eat anything up. Trust me so many idols would want their life.
Don't worry about them. They know YG strategy make them more popular and popular. They know Blackpink brand is so big and there is no way they just disband right now. Thier popularity keep getting bigger even when they perform very well or not. They are still in peak and everyday they are gaining tons of new fans all over the world.
So I mean it depens on what the girls like. If they like how it is right now and are happy at YG, because of the people they can work with and the clima. And like you said, like how YG is handling them. Sure. They will stay. But if they have enough of it or are dissapointed in how their career went. I see them leaving. Like imagine waiting 7 years to put two songs out... Having fans that hate and love you. Not beeing able control your own music career how you want and always having to wait for other 3 girls. And not really changing anything about music and style. I can see both side, which are possible, but I can not tell how it will end. And I am gonna say, I can not wait what happened either way kpop fans will celebrate or the community will be on fire. And it is gonna be fun either way. Well my only hope is that if they disband, I want the tea spilled (if there is any) cause I am noisy and I wanna know how it really was.
@@hrts4gowon true, fans are maybe the only one screwed. But like I said it is hard to predict. I mean they could stay, let Blackpink disband or pull a GOT7. Nobody knows and that is what this make it really interesting and I think I am not the only who thinks that way. And anyways I am not a fan. I like their music sometimes, but that its. So I do not really care. I am just here for the drama.
@@lucycarlay8547 Same, I used to be a fan and I still like the girls and tune in whenever they have a comeback because I’m curious, but at the end of the day I’m also here for the drama (if there’s any). Overall I’m really curious about what’s going to happen
Bp should not renew cause they are going under. They are not the" biggest girl group" or "the most professional idols" anymore. They dont get the freedom that they need. Its like yg is bored with bp and just doing comebacks for the sake of keeping the group alive. It isnt about whether they want to do it or not. It almost feels like they are done with being "idols". Thay dont want to keep being controlled. They would be amazing soloist under different lable. Moreover they should continue as artists instead of idols. Artists can do what they want , can be free and away from the toxic kpop fandom whereas being a solo idol would just lead them back where they are now It my OPINION. dont give me hate for it
I don't think they will disband now, I mean they are still in a peak, they are going to headline coachella this month and I honestly think that they do still have passion for music and their chemistry is good, at least to me they look like good friends, but when it comes to how they feel about the company's management will be showed now, with how they are going to use YG desire for them to renew in their favor, I mean this is the time to request more for themselves! But anyway as a fan I really want them to renew, I think that they still have so much to show as a group!
being very very honest I think bp will and should renew their contract you have explained all the points that were in my mind very well people really underestimate what a company can truly do and bp are a prime example of that, bp are not just big coz of their talent but also the strategies yg has used for them, their marketing has been done very well (not just releasing music once year but others as well ) and I personally think that nobody (except hybe) can handle bp like yg does
The fact that they are still pumping out albums and songs doesn't really mean that they are passionate about music. They are contractually obligated to do that since it's their job. Many singers can sometimes lose passion for music overtime due to certain factors like being overworked, not getting creative freedom, or just realizing they like doing other things. If they truly aren't passionate about music anymore then I'm sure they wouldn't outright say that since they wouldn't want to disappoint their fans (and I don't even think they would be allowed to by YG lol). From my perspective it does seem like they don't really care about the music aspect tbh cuz it's just so mediocre and repetitive. And it's not like they're out here writing full songs or even half of their own songs. Probably a couple lines at most. To me, they genuinely seem happier doing other things, which is good for them. I don't really know but that's just my opinion.
Love them or hate them, but I think we need to admit that they just aren’t interested in being idols any more, all of them have found other paths to walk.
@@deathgodtheking2651 it’s called the art of deduction, it doesn’t have to be said directly to you to be able to put 2 and 2 together, anyone with a pair of eyes, a working brain and has been following them for a while can tell they don’t have passion for what they’re doing.
I don't think people have enough information to assume something. First of all people saying they won't renew as a fact or a done deal and list as reason they don't want to be artists anymore, they have lost interest and they just want to be influencer are ridiculous. We have no idea how good or how bad the girls really are if we have to be honest. We don't know if they hide themselves behind "it's yg's fault" or if yg is really making all their decisions. It seems to be more towards the latter cause some times the girls really seem clueless about comebacks. Like for born pink many things were shot so freaking early and you bet you ass that Jennie dyed her hair for a comeback and not just a photo in the album, yet born pink came much later. We can use many exaples like Rosè having her solo ready for years, but we can't ignore that in their own solo things like their youtube channels, weverse or tiktok they don't do much even if should be fully under their control (aside from jisoo). Bottom line we don't know what's in their current contract and what will be in their next one. The reason bp do so many brand things is because they have decisional power and monetary gain that they can decide on their own, but they always put the group first (even if the activities are rare ahahah). The only reason I can list as a sign of renewing ignoring all the assumptions would be their bond. They are influential for sure and almost all of it started with yg there is no doubt, but I think the only reason they will go to that meeting with the possibility of renewing is the fact that those girls live each other a lot. People question their bond constantly if one of them posts late for a birthday or a solo, when in reality they never shut up about each other. I think that is the only leverage yg has, if they put their freaking pride to the side and offer a decent contract, meaning promotion that is promotion, possibility of variety shows, one full album a year or two mini it would be perfect. They have time to have solo activities each year (being music, mentor shows or dramas) visit families and tour once every two year.
I think it’s likely they will all renew. If they’ve lost their initial passion, then YG is purely to blame. These girls are most definitely talented, but unfortunately only getting a comeback every once in a while will not cut it and it’s clear that they’re not happy with it either. An idol is an idol, they need to put out music because that is their job. If they choose to renew, YG had better start treating them a lot better considering these girls arguably make them the most revenue. I can’t imagine not giving one of your most successful artists more frequent comebacks.
I just want blackpink to not resign with yg but another company that can give them artistic freedom they deserve and proper management. I also want to see them do a badass concept that doesn't focus on the male gaze but rather self love and actual female empowerment
My honest opinions is that Blackpink doesn’t need to disband, they should just rebrand into a western girl group. I can see that happening, I don’t know about Jisoo tho… Edit : Even if Blackpink doesn’t renew. I can still see them all being apart of the music industry, whether they become mentors, soloist, music producers, songwriters, choreographers, etc…
I feel like maybe not rebrand into a western girl group but rebrand their image. Blackpink (like BTS) has become big and popular overseas when in Korea and I think if they kinda do what BTS does and just perform a lot overseas they’ll be fine. I have a huge feeling that they won’t disband unless what happened to 2ne1 happens to them. I see everyone saying they don’t seem like a group and all but to me they still do, and the fact rosé helped jisoo with her solo shows me they still have some chemistry. I just hope that they either leave yg so we can finally see them have the freedom they deserve or if they renew their contracts, they demand to be promoted better.
@@ningmushii to be BTS , they'll need to have some music identity and artistry which they don't have at all. It took BTS years and years to build that. Just performing overseas doesn't grants you success. Bp already promotes enough overseas but they lack artistry that's where the problem is. So stop trying to make them like BTS. Let them be bp instead.
rumors say that jisoo is or isn’t renewing im going to give 1 bad reason and 1 good reason: bad: (no hate) rumors are saying that jisoo is not going to renew her contract because she doesn’t have passion in music anymore good: jisoo announced that she might be renewing her contract because she recently released a solo album ‘me’ including ‘flower’ and ‘all eyes on me’ so she doesn’t want to lose popularity. (i think i heard it from a video) ~~~~~~~~~~~ i dont know after all about jennie, but articles say that lisa has been offered $81million to leave yg, again i dont know if it is true, but articles say that rosé was the only blackpink member who renewed her contract. i hope they stay together, because i am a really big blackpink fan 🖤💖
Idk but yea I don’t really think they lost their passion for “music” but more like lost their passion for being an idol. Especially under YG as the company has had news and rumors about treating their idols unfairly and given that Blackpink has been working under YG for so many years its only natural that they lose interest and passion for being idols and on strict schedules. Now it seems more like they’ve each found out what they wanted to do and aren’t really into being idols anymore, they’ve been in the industry long enough.
I don't like Blackpink's music and I don't follow their careers individually, so take my opinion lightly. Due to their popularity, there's no way that YG and BP would just drop everything and go. I don't think they care if their still on top of their game or making the best quality music. The fact is, they created their own marketing strategy of releasing very minimal content so their fans would eat anything up, no matter what. It works for them, whether we agree on the strategy or not. The company and the group can still benefit from each other and it would be dumb to throw it all away. So, from a business perspective, I think they will renew their contracts.
While the strategy works now, but it won’t work forever. Tbh, I personally feel like it’ll start failing them very soon given the amount of successful new groups. When BP rose to fame the situation was different. 2NE1 was no longer active. BP filled the hole 2NE1 had left behind. Kpop was growing in popularity in the West, while girl groups in the West were at a decline. Fifth Harmony went on an indefinite hiatus in 2018. The desire for another new big girl group to replace them was big. Today, Kpop is an established genre in the West. A lot of rookie gen 4 groups appeal to western audiences. YG is debuting another girl group with presumably the exact same concept as BP. I genuinely have very little hope for the group if they don’t change anything with the renewal of their contract. They can’t keep relying on the strategy.
they will renew, but in my opinion, I think they like making music but just aren't interested in being idols anymore so of they like to perform, but it seems at this point every one of them found their own solo path and is just sick of being kpop idols,, TBH I can't blame them they can make music as soloists and make tons of money from ads being ambassadors
Thinking logically , on the scale of this world touring, can you imagine how tired it will be? Any HUMAN BEING would be tired. Endless rehearsals, endless performances. Let alone pleasing everyone including yourself and myself, someone’s gonna have some issues anyway, how they feel how they look how they talk how they react, someone’s gonna have something to say (positive or negative) it will be there.
I really hope BLACKPINK can use their power and influence to force YGE to give them more creative freedom. At this point though it seems like Jennie’s set out for modeling (maybe rap?), Lisa for dance, Rosé as a singer-songwriter (in the Western industry not K-pop) and Jisoo in acting (and potentially some music too).
I'm not a blink, but as a casual listener, I'm interested in what each member could bring into the table more than the whole group The "we don't give af" concept is overdone by bp themselves and by other groups, and collecting the 4 members who have 4 different styles under one cohesive song that isn't "we don't give af" isn't easy and I don't trust yg in doing that
They probably will renew their contracts, and why not? Its easy money for them from their perspective, no matter how little efforts they give for their concerts, or how many title songs sound essentially the same under the Teddy formula, the concerts still sell out almost instantly, and the albums continuously break sales records. Also for better or worse, BP remains one of the most important connections for kpop to the western market, especially now that BTS is in the army. We may not see it directly, but many western audiences are introduced to the kpop medium via BP, even if they eventually move away from them and find what they actually like amongst the many kpop groups. We dont really have an alternative that can serve BP and BTS's role yet, and perhaps for a long time. So until we actually have the next global star, we are kinda stuck with having BP serve as the global kpop ambassadors to spread kpop beyond the asian markets
as someone who also got into kpop through blackpink, i think they're gonna renew their contracts. ultimately i feel like none of the members have a reason to not resign with yg. yes, yg has done a poor job at managing them at times, but they've also been the masterminds behind blackpink's success. also, i feel like all the members have a sense of loyalty to the company. rosé, who was the last to join yg, has been with the company for over 11 years! they've all grown up at yg and i don't see them choosing to leave. i also think the point you made in the video about yg doing all they can to keep blackpink is a factor many people forget to consider in this discussion. obviously they're gonna fight to keep their biggest cash cow together, that's just smart business. and all in all, i don't want blackpink to disband. although they're no longer my favorite group, i'd still consider myself a blink. there's a sense of nostalgia for me that i associate with blackpink (kind of similar to the way that older 2nd gen stans feel about 2nd gen groups.) and i really would hate to see them leave. ultimately, we never truly know what goes on behind the scenes and we'll just have to wait for august to find out the fate of blackpink.
Personally, I don't necessarily think they need to disband. In all honesty, all of the members are talented and shine in their own ways. They have their own unique color that makes them distinct from one another yet blend as a group. They have great chemistry as a group and they have a lot of fun on stage together. I think everything started to change when everyone started doing more solo activities than group activities. It made it harder for them to blend as a group, I'd like to think it's because they may have realized that they want to focus on other paths instead of being an idol. I'd say maybe from 2020 onwards, it seems some of the members seem distracted and no longer as passionate. Rosé and Lisa seem to put in the most effort at the moment (based on my concert experience). If they regain their passion and love for being an idol as a group then their current status as the best girl group wouldn't be questioned. Sincerely 2016-2018 were the peak years, you could see they were truly enjoying the stage and giving it their all. Also, another factor would be the company, its obvious restrictions are being imposed on them. Based on their solos, they have the aptitude for producing and writing music, yet they are rarely credited and they aren't really given the chance to produce music as a group only in solos. As much as I love Blackpink, I do miss the old them and their earlier types of music.
Blackpink just feels like a group that’s stuck. And in a lot of ways it’s because YG itself feels stuck in 2018. I never see Blackpink and think creativity, innovation, K-Pop leaders. Maybe once, but still? Most of K-Pop has moved so far beyond them in terms of sound and concept, nobody’s looking to imitate Blackpink in any way other than their success. They’ll do covers when Blackpink comes back and then forget about them for the next two years. They just seem so… trapped. And I don’t think baby monster will help. I think they’ll get trapped even worse because now there’s not even a reason for YG to give them a comeback every two years so they can pay the bills. Their solos all presented a brilliant opportunity for them to expand creatively beyond Blackpink yet somehow they all released tracks that wouldn’t sound a touch out of place on a Blackpink album. They’ve had seven years to creatively expand and that didn’t happen. I don’t think a new contract and a new GG will change that. Blackpink needs to disband. The members deserve better. They deserve an actual fresh start and actual creative growth, not YG giving them the same thing over and over again but more expensive this time.
As the current moneymakers of the company, YG would be dumb if they didn't hear out the girls and give them a little leeway should they choose to renew their contracts. As a fan, I won't mind if they decide to leave or stay with YG. As long as they're happy, I'm happy.
I’m torn. I want them to not renew their contracts because it seems to me like they want different and newer things for themselves. I think Rosé should become a soloist, but not an idol soloist, just a global artist in general. I think she would be incredibly successful if she branched out from the idol industry and made her own way the world. Jisoo, I think may be on the path to stick to acting and modeling. I could see Lisa becoming a solo idol, and same with Jennie + modeling & acting. Blackpink was one of my first ult groups too but I want them to be successful in the ways they individually want to be successful and I don’t want them to be trapped in the YG dungeon anymore. If they stay together, I hope you’re right and the pressure on them lessens after BabyMonster debuts and they’re given a variety of genres to work with. Lovesick Girls was the last full group track by them that I fell fully in love with. All of their other recent stuff, except Hard to Love (which imo should’ve been on Rosé’s solo album) is so stale (imo.) I’m sick of the Badass Brag genre for them. We get it, Teddy! And Flower by Jisoo would’ve been a much better song had it actually been mixed competently. I physically cannot listen to it because the instrumental pierces my ears and drowns out Jisoo’s voice, and the empty, synth-filled chorus is too reminiscent of Solo and does Jisoo such a disservice. I love her voice and she deserves a song that shows it off. I was so hoping that Jisoo’s solo debut would be phenomenal and help push Blackpink as a whole forward into a new era, but I’m not hopeful. Especially not if Teddy is still their main producer. He can’t get out of the 2016 era and it’s incredibly frustrating. I want what’s best for Blackpink in the long run and while I don’t want their last comeback to be a flop, I don’t have any confidence that future comebacks will be successful or even good. They’re not creating trends anymore; they’re falling behind. I don’t know if YG can help them catch up.
I'm in the middle on one hand I totally see them renewing bc why not but also I just think YG is holding them back from what they really wanna do I always think about the many times Jennie has insinuated that she wishes she could do more but I mean whatever happens happens.
If they disband YGE wont admit it. They will soft disband them like they did with BigBang. Its like an unspoken truth BigBang will never return but YGE never admit it in a statement.
Okay but like I get saying they lost some passion but saying they should disband because you don't like what they release is like realistically so dumb , just don't listen to them anymore but it's still their job why would they leave it I honestly don't think any company will take all of them and if not their career as a group will basically be over and why will they want, we have to be realistic here most people in blackpink position will renew their contracts . They should just negotiate better terms that's the best thing
but one thing that keeps nagging me is that blinks often complain about how YG is treating them. but they did the same with the girl group before them too. and will continue to do with babymonster so why would blinks support the new group if they are not a fan of that? i get that you fall in love with BP and later finds out about the label and learn to live with it. but to choose to support a group you know is going to be treated that way is wrong. unless you think it's okay than fine. but why complain if you already have accepted it
Renew or not . Blackpinks potential has been completely wasted , yes they are gigantic , but they would definitely be bigger if they had recieved more attention (regarding their music) Also , I honestly love tour videos , like your voice is so soothing 😭
For me saying they lost passion is just too funny. We know Rosé likes music af, jennie too but its understandable that she doesn't show it anymore because she got fed up by the hate she's been getting through the years. We know jisoo write lyrics but i just think her and lisa are the 2 members that are less inclined towards music than chaennie. And its understandable that they are getting "bored" those girls have been getting comebacks 1 every 1 or 2 year. Yg has restreined their music and even their image so much. They created this mysterious aura, and exclusive, around bp that they cant do a lot of things. No collab stage, dance, very rare song cover, rare dance cover. If i was those girls i would've been fed up too. I hope they dont renew, i need them out. But i think theh will renew, if they renew they better get really good lawyers to negociate their contract.
in my opinion i think blackpink should stay a group, but leave YG, which may sound impossible but other groups such as Got7 has done it, but it really all depends on their current contracts.
I m sorry to whoever will get offended by this but the only reason blackpink is still relevant it's bcoz yg is thier to save them like it's funny how blinks hate yg so much when he is the one they should be thankful to,,,yg gives bp writers,mediaplay,they cb once a year literally having the best job in the world,,,,,all they have to do is perform and they fail in that too yall are funny asf if you think these girls will exist without yg.....as much as yg needs bp,bp needs yg too
The decision that they'll make will reflect if they still have a passion for music because no sane artist would stay at YG, with zero creative control and terrible management. If I'm being honest, Lisa is only one I've seen who gives her all during performances and seems happy doing what she's doing. I can see her being a very successful soloist on her own somewhere else but with the others . . . Not so much. They seem better off as models.
I feel like if they really want to stay a group and consistently put out music it would be best for them to leave, if they stay then they have a ton of power to demand more control over what and when they release it when they're renewing. I would hope that they don't just renew and willingly continue how they are now because that would be so unfair to the fans. I can understand why they would though, I mean they're currently selling over a million right now with one album every 1-2 years and then they get to do all of the ambassador gigs they want. It's a pretty sweet deal and I wouldn't be surprised if they kept going like this
100% certain they will renew their contract.....because their company is the main reason for their popularity........will be surprised if they don't.....
I can see your point with Babymonster taking the pressure of Blackpink, but I'm not sure I 100% agree. I was a diehard ARMY when TXT debuted, so even though some things are different, I've been in that position of a fan of a popular group that's holding up their company getting a hoobae group. I honestly didn't feel such a big shift of attention - a lot of people did check out TXT because they came from (at the time) Big Hit, but BTS still remained the flagship group with lots of eyes on them, and TXT still grew in an organic way slowly finding it's own fan base, in my opinion. People may be curious about Babymonster right now, but the main interest is still on Blackpink. If anything, I think the conversation will get even more heated because people will expect BP to have better contracts with more creative control if they resign, and will be watching to see what kinds of activities the girls prioritize.
Nah cuz thank God i found this video, everyone is talking about this and i don't even know anymore, it's like they don't want to stop being BlackPink but they're not putting any effort in it
I got into kpop when Dua Lipa did a collaboration with Blackpink. That was in early 2018 I believe.For a while after that all I cared to listen to was BP. Eventually I decided to dive a bit deeper into the genre, and I have never looked back! What I learned over the past five years is that Blackpink is highly overrated. There are so many groups who are as good or better than BP, and some of them are practically overlooked. That said, I think Blackpink should either try harder, or disband.
I feel like there might be a member or two that might stick around, but considering how many artists how left YGE, especially recently, I will not be surprised if BP chooses to leave. I don't think they've lost their passion for music, but I do think they might not be enjoying the path they've taken. They get one comeback every two years, and sometimes a random song drop. They're not really being marketed as artists, but rather as influencers. They didn't deal with years of training to become influencers. I also agree with your point that YGE will most likely go to great lengths to try and get BP to renew since they're the breadmakers for them. (Not that the other artists YGE have/had don't make money, but the profits from BP are definitely significant.) I hope that Baby Monster doesn't crumble under the inevitable pressure they will face when they debut. (Not wishing ill on them, but knowing how netizens are, it's practically a given that they'll watch those girls like vultures.) Whatever happens, I hope BP will do what they want. If they want to remain a group, go solo, or try something new, they should. They've spent a really long time doing what others want and that can't be easy.
