For Teachers As someone who started the Primary (5-11) PGCE and dropped out in March (just 3 weeks before lockdown), I would say a big con is the amount of time the workload takes up (especially when Planning, Marking and Tweaking Lesson Plans) on a near daily basis (if not, daily). I couldn’t cope with the ever expanding workload which was why I dropped out.
You forgot to say, "Don't become a teacher if you don't like children." It's amazing how many teachers I've met who obviously don't like children, or understand them. Usually those teachers have no sense of humour either, which is essential if you're with kids all day.
Or if you prefer children with a certain personality. I was very quiet in primary school and I had many teachers that preferred the really loud, over confident kids , it was always those kids who won the school talent show or got the main parts in the Christmas play. I was always left out simply because I was quiet, along with many other kids in my year group who were also shy. All children are different and they should be treated as individuals and given the same amount of opportunities in their school life .
@@sunsetmeadows5729 I'm also a quiet, reserved person. When I was in first grade my parents were told to come to the school because there was something important the teacher needed to tell them. When they got there the teacher said, "I'm very concerned about your son. He's very quiet in class and I think he might be...an...INTROVERT!" My parents thought this was hilarious.
@A Z The worst teachers are those that shame children. Like the teacher who made a child work out a sum on the blackboard and then humiliated him in front of the whole class when he couldn't do it. Why do that? Why be cruel?
As an EYP, you really need to have a passion for the children’s success, a lack of passion is what causes terrible teachers who don’t spot educational issues and will do a disservice to the children!!
Thank you Katie. I’m currently wading through the PGCE and in my first placement. Yes it’s hard and I’m tired all of the time but your videos always give me hope that I can do this. I’m 43 so not young and have my own family. Some days I want to give in but a child will say or do something that makes it worthwhile. Keep posting it’s keeping me going and I’m sure your honestly really helps other teachers too.
I can relate to you as I was constantly drained mentally (especially in my 2nd Placement). If you did make it, then hats off to you and every other PGCE Student who made it to the end (I didn’t, but not without a fight and I mean that figuratively).
Caroline your comment is so inspirational, I’m 32 and decided to make a career change into teaching, however, I often feel discouraged due to my age. Thank you for sharing and I hope all is going well?
I’m in year 12 and am unsure of what to do. I’ve always like the idea of teaching primary, because it just seems so rewarding, so this video was very helpful
@@amycharlotte7245 hey i'm in year 12 too, i think i'd either do a education degree or primary ed w qts AFTER taking a gap year cos year 12 is stressing me out😭😭 wbuu x
Thank you for taking the time to leave a comment and let me know - I am so happy for you! It’s going to be a rollercoaster journey with many highs and lows but I do believe it’s a fantastic career path to choose. Please let me know if I can support you in any way. Good luck!
@@ForTeachersChannel thank you so much for the response!! i'm currently just looking at the college courses i'd like to take to become a teacher, but that's individual to each college i imagine. thank you so much for the amazing videos and advice!!! ♡
same, i'm going into year 11 next year(we only have up to year 12 here) and i've definitely made up my mind, i'm hopefully doing work experience at a primary school soon
I taught for 10 years in primary schools, and now I teach before and after school care. I definitely think anyone who is considering teaching needs to look at how they interact other people - not just kids. Do you hold people's attention when talking with them? Can you get to the point quickly and do people want to know more? Do people notice when you come into a room? Are you able to gain the attention of lots of people in a group when everyone is busy talking or doing individual tasks (even if just to announce a toilet is out of order)? Can you motivate people to do things they didn't want to before, even if just to try something new? Are you able to sympathize but tell people what they need to hear? Can you do difficult conversations and not break out in the guilts or terrors? Can you concentrate on a task in a crowded, noisy room but also know what everyone is doing at all times? If yes to all, qualify as a teacher aide and work with small groups to learn from other teachers. If yes to some or most, but not all, you have many talents that would develop in a different career. For example, If you like children there are careers in child care and paediatrics. If you want to make a difference to the world, science, machines, computers, and the environment needs you. If you are organised but like one to one helping, nursing has travel, skills and diversity you would not believe! And counselling needs helpful, caring and empathetic people. In other words, there is so much more than the classroom. Don't think teaching is the only job you can do if you like children, want to make a difference, like a steady paycheck and to have-fun-while-working.
Couldn’t agree with you more. I don’t check a box with two of those things you listed. I will improve them as I do with anything I want to do. There are cons to every job. Pros to almost every job. People just seem to our teachers in a separate corner where it’s all just “bad”. But I think those people are genuinely clouded by their school experiences as students. I can remember when I was a student, I never ever wanted to be a teacher. I wanted to teach people all my life. But I just felt a teacher wasn’t me. But over the past year: it’s hit me hard. I’ve researched, I’ve thought long and hard for days - attempting to push me away from it. I’ve seriously tried to find nothing but stuff I don’t want to do that’s part of teaching. Nothing so far. All I can find is things I want to do. Now, don’t get me wrong: I want to do teaching: not because it has no cons for me: but because I genuinely want to teach children and inspire them. Nothing else would please me more in life. I don’t have much of a life to be honest, so if I can engulf my life into something such as teaching - then my life is complete.
Most of the teachers I know regret getting into it. It can be an extremely stressful and nasty job, especially as you get higher up the ladder. My wife is a Head of school teacher, she's been doing it for 20 years. She has just handed in her notice, which I'm really pleased about. There isn't a month she doesn't get punched or kicked or spat on.
The most important thing a mentor teacher told me was, "learn to be comfortable being uncomfortable." Some great reflections here. Thanks for sharing :)
I’m sure they will. It’s great that they’ll be able to share their experience with you. You can also hopefully get some classroom observations done before you apply! Good luck with your journey ☺️
This video helped me so much, I am still in high school and I've been struggling with career choice for a while but then I thought about being a primary school teacher and it clicked. This video has just made me even more confident. Thank you so much!
I always wanted to be a primary school teacher but I suck at Irish and didn't even consider moving to the UK to teach. I moved to Northern Ireland for work (I'm a geologist) and became a STEM ambassador, volunteering in schools throughout the year and I absolutely love it. I've been considering a career change for over a year but struggling to make a decision so thank you for the detailed information on the pros and cons of teaching
I am 13 and have always wanted to be a teacher and this video has truly helped make me realise how hard I will have to work and what I can get out of it
@@juliajablonka5417 I am!! I’ve just applied to University for a joint honours in English and History, and then when I finish my degree I plan to work towards a PGCE 😊
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Thank you for the effort you put into such a positive and informative video! Definitely helped me with my decision to pursue becoming a teacher. All the best from an Australian in Japan!
Some excellent points made! In my first term I asked whether I wanted to continue being a primary school teacher as a NQT! I was lucky because I was well supported (Over 40 years ago!) by the school staff. However, teaching nowadays seems to be more demanding when I speak to the headteacher and teachers as their governor. I persevered, taught in four different primary schools in four different counties and thoroughly enjoyed this profession. Despite being retired I still have not left primary education, it becomes a way of life. Remember that you are developing and changing little people's lives. PROS? Hard work, late nights and interesting conversations with colleagues and parents! Lookout for being stressed and examine your worklife balance. Some schools are good on this. CONS A great career with progression. You can follow your passions in life and share those abiding interests with the children you teach.
I am definitely late here, but I'm 15, and I've been planning on becoming a teacher since I was 12, in the middle there were other jobs too, but now I have cleared up my mind and 100% want to become a PRIMARY school teacher! I'm from Europe and English isn't my first language, so I'm sorry if my grammar mistakes trigger you. Thank you for this video!❤️
Grammar mistakes never trigger me! I think all languages are beautiful - I am especially amazed by anyone who is bilingual as I sadly only speak English (my students shock me every day with how easily they switch languages) I am happy to hear that you are considering becoming a teacher. Please let me know if there is ever anything I can do to help you out! X
I’ve been so sure since I was in school myself that I didn’t want to be a teacher because of an incident that happened with my mum (who was a primary teacher for 25+ years) but I’m at a point that a stable salary and consistent hours sound sooo appealing. I currently have a degree in Drama which is awesome, but is near impossible to get a job in that’s long term and decent pay. I’ve done some sort of teaching through drama (going into schools and doing projects with the kids for a set number of weeks) and I did really enjoy it. My fears with teaching I think are more based around dealing with troublesome parents than they are about the actual job or the kids. Have you ever had / heard of any incidents involving parents threatening their kids’ teacher...? I’m probably feeling particularly paranoid because of what happened to my own mum, but at the same time have been told more times than I can count that I’m really good with kids and have I considered teaching. Any advice would be greatly appreciated xxx
From what you´re saying I can only infer that your mom was somehow threatened by a student´s parent. If that´s the case, then I´m sad to hear. It should never happen! In general, what I hear from other teachers (I´m currently studying to become one), is that you can have argumentative parents who put on conflicts on behalf of their children, but I´ve never heard of anyone being threatened (I hear of one case of a legal threat, but that was an exceptional case). You can consider the norm that parents are quite reasonable and friendly - and with some skills and training you can them into solid collaboration and form really good relationships with them! ;) Some may be less involved, some may be skeptical or critical (but not threatening). Threatening parents are definitely a small exception to the rule. Most teachers will never experience this (just guessing, 99-99,5 % of them).
Thanks for this insight, I will be honest I am 25 year old lad who feels like I am not quite where I want to be and I went across to Africa Ghana to volunteer teaching sports and P.E and I absolutely loved it and feel proud of the impact it had and I left. I am now considering knuckling down to do all this and whilst I am 25 I still have time. There are a lot of cons but I really want a career that offers purpose and I feel this is it.
Thank you so much for this!!! You are so well spoken and you have covered every point so well. It has definitely made my vision of becoming a primary school teacher more clear!
Ahhh this comment has made my day! Thank you so much. Please let me know if you have any questions about teaching and I’ll happily help out. It’s such a tricky job but incredibly rewarding at the same time. When are you considering studying?
For Teachers This is my second year of studying primary education in Australia! I have been on placement for 2 weeks in semester one and have another 3 week block this coming November. I’ve been watching so many of your videos to motivate me! I’m happy you connect with viewers like myself and I’ll definitely make sure to leave a comment when I have any questions. :)
I’m happy to hear a bit about your journey! We get a lot of views but not many comments so I always wonder about the lives of people who tune in to watch. Australia is on my travel list 😍 feel free to message any time on here or Instagram @forteachers for a chat! Good luck with placements and job hunting etc. It’ll be exhausting but worth it in the end! X
A great video on some aspects of what it means to be a teacher. For me, the pros outweigh the cons on a number of levels and it is always about working smarter not harder.
Thanks you've explained your points really well. I'm sure you're a great teacher and make a big difference to children. You've encouraged me a bit more!
I’m so happy for you!! Thank you for updating us on this ☺️☺️ very inspired by your journey so far. Be sure to let us know how the next step goes. What’s your plan? (First plan should be celebration passing the skills tests, of course!)
For Teachers ahah yes thank you! I like having somewhere to send my updates😂 my next plan is to read up on current issues in education for my first interview on Wednesday!
For Teachers it went really well thank you! More nerve racking than I expected, but I included everything I wanted to say and the tasks were fine! I think I did my best so fingers crossed!🤞
It's interesting hearing that you will have to work beyond your hours during term time, as what the hell do people expect? I work as an environmental consultant at the moment and I am rarely off the clock during the week. I take calls at 9pm sometimes and before project deadlines I will work evenings and weekends. Any graduate that wants a professional career, it's going to require extra work beyond the 9-5. If you don't want to work extra hours then get a job at McDonald's, that is the reality of it.
Thank you so much for this super informative video!! I am considering a major change in career and I can't seem to budge the idea of becoming a primary school teacher! A lot of people have mentioned over the years how I would be brilliant and now.... at age 25 I'm considering g a different route x
And the holidays are not really holidays either, after the 50 hours of marking and other tasks you often do. If interstate or overseas excursions are running, you are on duty the whole time 24/7. After public holidays like Easter and Christmas are factored in, the vacation aspect dwindles in its appeal. If you are willing to devote your life to this job, it can be secure, fun and rewarding.
Love your videos❤️, I was just looking for some advice as my end goal is to become an international teacher who teaches English. I am currently applying to university to study educational studies and wanted to know if this is a beneficial degree which will add to my end goal or if studying primary education would be more beneficial (also have an interest in this degree) I would love for you to advise me on this 😊
Hey! Thank you for the feedback. Apologies for missing this comment when you first sent it. If you ever want immediate advice feel free to send me a DM on insta. Education studies will be very useful, don’t forget the PGCE at the end. Where are you considering studying?
I have an interest in teaching as a future career for myself, I’m in my second to last year of secondary school, and trying to get my entry requirements for university. I think I want to study psychology but I also have an interest in teaching. The only thing is would I be able to if I don’t do any languages as my subjects? :)
Mary I did psychology at university and now I’m a teaching assistant in primary school about to start training to be a teacher! You don’t need a language as a subject, I didn’t do any.
I have always struggled with a stutter... ever since I can remember. Is that a reason for me not to pursue teaching? I love the idea of having my own class and marking books with stickers and even managing the naughty kids - as I was one myself 😂.
I am currently deciding my life plans - choosing my options of where to go to do A levels or things alike. In February i am going to my old primary school as i have been considering teaching for a few years. I like the idea of making a positive impact towards education but having my own twist on things. My granny was a primary school teacher in London for several decades and my granddad was a musician playing in pubs across the mersyside. To honour both of them i am considering being the teacher who would mainly use music as a way of teaching as i play guitar. When selling her house due to her passing away last November i found a book from when she retired full of children wishing her a happy retirement. That made me so proud of her as i know that she was loved by many. Some of her kids even went to the funeral. The only thing is i have a stutter that sometimes becomes very hard to control.... is it okay for a teacher to have a stutter?
I'm 37 working in a analytics job related to the stock mkt . I dont have a teaching background but would really like to , salary will be a pay cut for me but I am sure I will be happy
Just came across this and my immediate answer to the question in the title, as a teacher of 39 years in Australia, is, “No. Definitely, absolutely, NO”. There IS no work/life balance. The pay is okay, but NOT commensurate with the level or amount of work & responsibilities. Teachers are often denigrated in the media and expected to “fix” problems in society. The lack of respect, understanding and support - from students, parents, administrators, education department bureaucrats and the community in general - varies, but overall ranges from mediocre to extremely poor. “Long holidays” are a myth, as they’re really “time in lieu”. During term, apart from direct teaching time, there are meetings with colleagues, senior staff and parents, as well as - planning, programming, yard duties, marking, organising tests, recording, data collection, filing, photocopying, lesson preparation, excursions, often a camp once a year, (where you’re on call for 3-5 days, 24 hours a day!), training & development, (at least a full week each year, in your own time, to maintain teacher registration), school fundraising, concerts, weekend activities such as choir/other music performances and sport, etc, etc, ETC! About 20 years ago, I worked out that most primary teachers worked 60 x 40 hour weeks a year. As there are only 52 weeks in a year, that means we’re already doing 8 weeks “overtime”, so on that basis are actually “owed” holidays! Yes, it does get a bit easier in some respects after you’ve been teaching a while - the first 25 years are the hardest - but the workload and expectations are still ridiculous. I have enjoyed working with many of my students - and a fair few of my colleagues - but would I advise anyone to become a teacher? Honestly? No.
Such an informative and inspiring video. I've got a bachelor of commerce in accounting with an honor class and your videos consistently give me hope and inspiration to do a career shift and get into teaching Is it a prerequisite for the ones who demonstrate a desire to teach to have PGCE? I need an explanation please
Hello Ahmed! Thank you for the lovely positive messages. In the UK you need a PGCE or equivalent form of QTS to be able to teach and have a teacher wage (you can be an unqualified teacher but the wage is a lot lower) I hope that you manage to find the job you are looking for!
Hi. I'm currently training with Teach First and I'm struggling. It's a combination of things: school, class and work load - seriously considering resigning. Any help and advise welcomed!
Sorry to hear this. Teaching is such a tough job. I do feel like you should battle through it - you might find it easier once you have your own class. It’s great when you can put your stamp on things. I’m making some more support videos soon so maybe they will be of use to you. Eg. First year of teaching what I wish I’d known etc. Where are you studying?
@@ForTeachersChannel Teach First is a hands-on training route; you have a class from day one! you don't really 'study' in the normal PGCE sense, that's why it's a different level of stress!
It's so interesting to hear how teaching works in the UK. In Germany you have to study at least 2 subjects like german and biology and for primary school you have to do german and math and can choose another subject. After Uni we are at school for 1,5 to 2 years and get marks on how we teach and we have a courses and get marks at school law and psychology. It's a long way to be a teacher in germany. How is the eay in the UK?
There are many courses in the UK that lead to teaching. We have the BA route where you study teaching specifically and a route where you take a different subject then add a ‘PGCE’ at the end. As for A levels, they don’t seem to mind what you study as long as you take English and get enough points. I know there are new routes being added all the time though to encourage more teachers to apply. Are you a teacher in Germany currently?
I am doing master's in English literature at Bangor University my question is that for become a primary school teacher what should I do or need any course for become teacher?
Thank you! I don’t know why I forgot to make a note of different pay scales like Scotland. I need to add some extra notes in. Hopefully the NASUWT website will provide enough info. Are you a teacher now? ☺️
@@BigBluesBanter Hello! Well I actually changed jobs and moved to another city. But..when I started I was told about the council scheme where I get paid my full time wage while getting put through the course and get guaranteed employment for 4 years (aka the DREAM SCENARIO!!!) So I am hoping to hear back next week! What about you are you teaching? applying?
@@ellamcken462 That's amazing to hear!! Me, well not yet haha I'm only 16 but I want to go on to become a teacher in a couple years. Well good luck in the future! :)
Hello I am from India.I am a pre-primary teacher in India.I have 5 years experience also. This experience will help me. I want to do Early childhood Education in UK. My question is after completing that course how will be my future.
Thank you, Katie. I am pursuing a bachelor's degree and am considering going into teaching. You said you are in Hong Kong. What are de requirements to be a teacher in Hong Kong? Thank you.
My wife's a head teacher and I know a lot of normal teachers too. Sadly it's not something most of got into with the benefit of hindsight. My wife wants to leave her job as head of school and train in something else. Others I know already have, sad but true.
Hi Katie, I’m really struggling in my career path. I seem to be drawn to primary teaching recently but I’m worried that I’m not clever enough for it. I have a grade 7&6 in English lit&language, a 5 in maths and 5-5 in science. I haven’t sat my a levels yet but I’m predicted A/B’s and a merit/distinction. Any advice? 🤍🤍🤍
All you need is to get a grade 5 in maths English and science! You’re doing amazing. I’m in the same position with English my best. In science I struggle with grades at 3/4/5s. However, I’m aiming to get 5s and I’m working hard. I’m sure you’ll do amazing!!! 💞
I'm 13, I've always wanted to be a Vet but I have always had a spot in the back of my head for teaching. Recently, I've realized that I wouldn't really be happy being a Vet and would prefer to be a primary school teacher instead. Overall, do you think the job is good? As in, do you like it personally? I'm really drawn to it and my dad is a secondary school teacher too so that's a plus. :) Thank youu!
You can become a vet and then do a pgce after in primary education instead of doing a degree in primary education which means you can only teach and limits you in case you change your mind.
I think teachers date each other because we understand the workload. Having a partner that isn't a teacher would have to understand why I can't go away on the weekends because I have to be home and lesson plan or why I have to work after we eat our evening meal. We need more male teachers!
I am currently 13 and ever since I was 5 I wanted to become a teacher. I am starting my research and studies now even tho its pretty early I just worry about the future a lot. Also I have a question, how many years in college/uni do you have to do?
You can do a 3 year degree. People who already have a degree can do a 1 year masters called a PGCE or they can go through a paid route that is far more competitive. As seen as you are still young and do not have a degree yet then your best bet is to do a 3 year teaching degree
Hi! I love you channel, so much useful information! I am considering moving to England. I'd like to ask you if you have any experience or knowledge about foreigners hired in English preschools and primary schools? Atm I am working for British preschool in Poland (we mix Polish and British curriculum, and teach in English) and I was wondering if British employers consider foreigners as good EYFS and KS1 teachers? I have full qualifications to teach in preschool, in primary school and as the English teacher.
I actually have a polish friend who works in a preschool. If you want to message me on Facebook I will ask her if she would mind speaking to you? Perhaps she can provide answers that I cannot help with ☺️ I use a Facebook page called For Teachers and can send her details via there once I have asked her for permission. Thank you for leaving a comment on the video too - it’s seriously appreciated! ☺️
Thankyou for the videos. However I have been working in the Fashion & Graphic industry for 12+ years & there is a ceiling in terms of payscale as a Senior Designer (it is too a stressful job, no work life balance, long hours many of which don’t add up to the salary you achieve) but these teaching payscales, only the top end ones, are worth me leaving my industry for. Very disappointing as I always wanted to teach FE/ University (UK) but I cannot warrant forking out for a PGCE for those quite frankly CRAP payscales sorry. At my age I simply cannot afford to take such a payscale drop to start again. They need to pay teachers a realistic wage. My boyfriend is ex-military with no degree level education & makes more as HGV driver 🙄
Can one eventually go into part time? I'm thinking long term - what if I gave birth? what if I slowly want to retire? Any advice would be appreciated :)
I always thought it was important that teachers weren’t perfectionists, beccasse kids can’t be perfect, I mean yes there are some good kids etc but the best teachers are able to work around the kids ‘imperfections’ , problems, not worry about having the absolute perfect hand writing, but that they are learning something.
Hi Katie, love this video!!! I am currently in the process of applying to university to study Primary Education. I just had a question that I wanted to ask. If you study just a normal 3 year course and gain QTS, are you still able to progress to senior members of staff in the further without masters credits? Thank you x
Hi Georgia! Thank you for taking a minute to leave a comment. I studied BA Honours Primary Education with QTS (3 year course total) and have never once been told anything at all about needing master credits for management. As far as I know, any teacher can progress to this level. There are courses that you need to complete but I don’t think the type of degree impacts this. Honestly, I don’t think schools pay a lot of attention to the route you took into teaching. I’ve discussed with many teacher friends and all of us seem to agree that this didn’t come up in interview and it was more based on how well you performed in the classroom/ your placement results! I could be wrong and I’ll ask about this when I get chance to speak to my head teacher friend. Which uni are you looking at in particular? I had a great time at Sheffield Hallam ☺️ Happy to answer any more questions!
For Teachers thank you for getting back to me! I've applied to Sheffield Hallam too! But like Nottingham Trent is 4 years and has the opportunity to collect masters credits to help get into SLT roles, so I just wondered if the 3 year course can get you into these roles x
I’ve never heard of this before. There are pros and cons to 3 year or 4 year course. The 3 year gets you into teaching sooner and earning quicker. The 4 year gives you longer to learn about teaching. The 3 year is a big workload for all three years whereas the 4 is average for 3 then one intense year for PGCE. Both have pros and cons! I have two leadership roles and I didn’t do the 4 year course, just be careful they aren’t trying to make it sound more desirable as it’s one extra year of student fees... I have never heard of needing credits before. Research properly and feel free to message me any time during the selection process! Whatever path you take it’ll be such an incredible journey ☺️
I studied law as a undergrad & did a msc psychology conversion course as a post grad. Can I still become a teaching and get funding? Thanks so much for ur videos they help so much x
Hello, for my uni dissertation I’m doing primary school teachers views on the national curriculum, the challenges and positives of it especially after the 2014 reform, what are your opinions of this if you don’t mind me asking. This helped a lot thanks for the video xx
Hi Jordan! Drop me a message on Instagram and I’ll happily support you with your dissertation. I’m on as @forteachers ☺️ sounds like an interesting topic!
@@ForTeachersChannel I want to teach in the primary school. Pls if you have any idea about a school which needs a primary teacher, kindly inform me. Thank you.
@@dorcassakyiamah7164 If you want to teach outside the UK then you can teach English as a graduate in many countries that don't speak English as a first language, this does not need QTS. In terms of being a teacher that isn't just teaching English in China and such, then the only English speaking countries that recognise UK teachers are Australia and New Zealand, as they recognise UK teaching qualifications. In places like Canada and the USA, teaching would require qualifying all over again and you wouldn't get a visa as a UK teacher to begin with. In Europe you may be able to teach English as a foreign language, but obviously their schools have their own language and own qualifications to teach.
hello I'm interested to teach in UK. but I belong to India. I have 20 year experience in maths and science. my English grammar is strong but fluency is poor I can understand when anyone speaks English
Hi, I am planning to do primary education degree at open university in October. But I wanted to ask what I need to do/study in order to become a qualified primary school teacher?
