Should I Buy Steam Deck OLED... Or Wait For Next-Gen ROG Ally?

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@fcukugimmeausername 6 месяцев назад

Im waiting for the Steam CRT.

@colinmx. 6 месяцев назад

Lol

@MattWiles 6 месяцев назад

Yep, OLED Deck made me fall in love with the Deck again after my LCD was collecting dust. He’s right; it somehow unlocks the Deck potential.

@AdamScottPersonnel 6 месяцев назад

The Steam Deck OLED is one of my best purchases since a while.

@volatilelyle5170 6 месяцев назад

Here in South Africa, the original Steam Deck (Unless you get the 64gb version) is significantly more expensive than than the ROG Ally (Roughly R4000 more which is more than $200 USD). I think it has something to do with import tax since Valve doesn't actually sell it here so local retailers buy it with the import tax and then they do a mark up for profit. I would LOVE to see DF do a video on the ROG Ally with Steam OS. I know it is possible but dont know how good it will be in practice. The Steam Deck makes sense if you stay in countries like America but in countries like South Africa, prices do not directly translate. I got my Palit 4070 Super for the same price as the 7800 XT. If prices translated 1:1 then I might have strongly considered the 7800 XT.

@pencilcheck 6 месяцев назад

or travel to US (perhaps UK as well??) and ship to your friend house or something and pick it up

@mercury4587 6 месяцев назад

@@pencilcheck not everyone can just fly to another country just to buy something nor does everyone have friends that stay in other countries. If it was always that simple then most of us in this country wouldn't complain about the multitude of things that don't launch here or the things that get sold here with really high prices.

@pencilcheck 6 месяцев назад

@@mercury4587 yea, I understand, just saying in case that is an option. since I know a ton of people who does that and even have facebook groups for it.

@mercury4587 6 месяцев назад

Got my rog ally for R13k in the last weeks of December and I've been rocking windows since then but I tried out ChimeraOS (like steamOS) late last month so I'll give you my thoughts. It's a fantastic Daily Driver (as long as you make sure to install the simpledeckytdp plugin). Almost everything just works straight out of the box. Battery life is the same, if not better than windows. Same with game performance. The suspend/quick resume feature is absolutely amazing and just ties the whole console like experience together. I only switched back to windows for 2 things that might not mean a lot to alot of people. 1. I play valorant/cod from time to time and their respective anti cheats don't work with Linux. 2. I use GeForce Now a lot. Yeah you can use it on linux through a web browser but it's limited to 60fps whereas on windows with the native app, i can do 1440p120. Aside from these specific use cases, ChimeraOS is something I'd highly recommend if you end up getting a Rog ally. It truly is amazing

@Solruc_ 6 месяцев назад

@@pencilcheck Yeah they should spend $850 flying to the US so they can save $200

@Skazzy3YT 6 месяцев назад

Meanwhile here I am waiting for the next-gen Steam Deck

@Ismsanmar 6 месяцев назад

Enjoy your 3 year wait.

@adds-kz3oc 6 месяцев назад

You'll be waiting a while. Might as well get an OLED in the meantime.

@halo2bounceguy 6 месяцев назад

It's not $600 lol, you can get one for $300 and enjoy it for two years at less than 50cents/day. Oled steam decks greatest use though is streaming your home PC. Using my PC remotely is NUTS, there's maybe 3-4ms of latency and for 90hz that is literally unnoticeable and clear

@mikeuk666 6 месяцев назад

@@halo2bounceguymay as well use a Sony Portal 😂

@oo--7714 6 месяцев назад

@@halo2bounceguy the oled isn't 300 dollars, it is like $549 dollars before tax, so practically $600. Even then the ebay resellers are so stingy, you can get a better deal with the rog ally than the steam deck oled on ebay in the UK. On ebay USA it looks like all of the resellers are selling them for almost the same price as msrp.

@Lay... 6 месяцев назад

Only thing deck needs is more games supporting larger interface and text scaling. Some games it's so hard to read the small text

@kkrolik2106 6 месяцев назад

I get recently broken Steam Deck LCD 512GB model total cost with spare screen cost me $235 I managed repair myself :)

@AkaiSuzume 6 месяцев назад

That's a steal man.

@bevvyfischer4386 6 месяцев назад

Good on you!

@user-qy2wf2lt6v 6 месяцев назад

Ma man!

@chadwolf3840 6 месяцев назад

Great deal

@2greenify 6 месяцев назад

Nice

@Fallen608 6 месяцев назад

Bought an LCD deck a month before the OLED dropped 🥲. They’re not officially sold in my country so I had to wait for some to pop up on the used market. I would love to upgrade but at this point might as well wait for deck 2

@faceofthemoment4571 5 месяцев назад

You’ll be waiting years for the next Deck.

@noahtambala3657 6 месяцев назад

No idea if you'll see this, but I cant help but remember that when I had my old psp, you could play certain games by removing and replacing the UMD when loading a a level and then continue playing with the UMD removed. I did this on battlefront 2 when I had one copy to play adhoc multiplayer with my brother. Any explanations on how this worked on a really underpowered handheld?

@nitinanku 6 месяцев назад

The game loads the data from the level into RAM, and won’t check if a disc is present till it needs to load more data. This lets you put the disc in and load it to ram on multiple systems, and since it never realises you removed the disc, it thinks you have two copies.

@davida.6554 6 месяцев назад

I think Johns not quite right. I owned a Steam Deck. Now I own a ROG Ally. I get, that the Deck has a more console like feeling and that it works great on good supported titles. But the ROG Ally is so much more flexible. Yes, Windows 11 is a bit more clunky than SteamOS of course, but nowhere near that I might have stopped having fun with it or that something did not work. The power of the ROG is unmatched. The only gripe I have is the battery life, allthough I play plugged in most of the time.

@studentzero9576 5 месяцев назад

Unmatched power? If you have to play cyberpunk at 720p with low settings to achieve above 60fps I don’t think power is a great argument. If the device has to remained plugged in to fully enjoy you’re better off getting a 14” gaming laptop with a dedicated gpu and a Xbox controller. It would be a far greater benefit than anything the Ally can offer.

@Brogboolius_Maximus 6 месяцев назад

Add another voice to the ROG Ally pile. The OLED Deck is an amazing piece of tech, but with EGS games, GOG games, Game Pass games, I use my Ally orders of magnitude more often. Running Windows on a handheld is fine. I have had zero problems with it, honestly, and it's literally just a computer, so you can install any Windows software on it.

@warlockboyburns 6 месяцев назад

A frame generation update would be nice.

@jackykwan2580 6 месяцев назад

So overblown how much time people spend in OS? The only thing good about oled steam deck is just the oled screen and battery life. Just customize the two joysticks to mouse mode and you can navigate windows like a champ WITHOUT the trackpad.

@extra4542 5 месяцев назад

it's not just the about navigating UI, it's the overall windows jank of pop ups, how things set up, not being able to instant suspend your games and just pick up (like how you can on a phone or tablet). I dont even really have to explain the windows jank for you to know what i'm talking about. I even don't like using desktop mode on steamOS but i love that it's there for tinkering when I need to, I would hate to have that be my sole UI to use as you would with windows because it always feels like you're using something that is haphazardly put together to work via brute force rather than being a polished optimized experience

@PixelShade 6 месяцев назад

Also, the Steam Deck is a TRUE handheld with a custom APU designed and optimized for peak gaming performance at 3-10W TDP. All other handheld PCs use off-the-shelf laptop APUs with massively performant CPUs that perform the best at around ~15-25W. This has a MASSIVE implication on battery life. Heck, when running the Steam Deck at 10W, it outperforms the competition. And looking at the original Steam Deck (the only device I have experience with) 10W will give you about 2.5h) If you get into the 20W territory it's more of a modern Game Gear that always need to be plugged in. When running fixed scenarios like gamecube emulation, the Steam Deck will yield almost 2x the battery life of a ROG Ally, and with the OLED, that gap widens with another 20-30%... There are niche use cases for other handhelds (like high-end emulation, and external GPU setups). But for the best handheld companion device, nothing can beat the Steam Deck right now.

@oo--7714 6 месяцев назад

Also the ally will probably just get better bigger battery and an Sd card that works. I don't expect a massive improvement unless they ad a 60+ watt hour battery. They will probably add a 50 watt one, hopefully they add a 65 watt hour battery.

@carsonj4031 6 месяцев назад

Yeah im the same way. I have enough issues with windows on my laptop i can only imagine it on a hand held. I didnt even think that what the steam deck is doing in terms of experience was even possible on a computer.

@ccallaghan84 6 месяцев назад

lol not being able to play half the games you want to play... is also bad. If you want Steam, use big picture mode. You can even replace it as the shell... if you want. I own both and don't agree with any of this, at all. I'm putting my SDOled up for sale. Whoever @Dark1x is doesn't appear to have used the Ally much, or doesn't understand how the features work. You can pause and resume on Ally - use Hibernate, not sleep. SD will lose it's battery if you "sleep" it for multiple days. I can hook the Ally up to a TV with an XGMobile and it's faster than my PS5. Once AFMF comes out, it's going to be even further ahead in smoothness. SDOled does get an extra hr of battery in my tests. If you want an appliance, get a switch. You're going to have to tweak either. SD requires side loading and tweaking for things like battery protection, streaming, basically anything other than Steam. So you should have some knowledge of how to get around PC's.

@DvlFIG 5 месяцев назад

I had an Ally and using Windows in such a small device drove me insane. I switched to SD OLED and I love it. Don’t see myself switching over to a Windows handheld device unless they create some sort of Windows Gaming OS.

@akashj8204 6 месяцев назад

I live in India, and I've been having this exact confusion, as there are no service centres near me and I don't know if I'll be able to tinker or fix if anything happens to difficult parts of steam deck like the screen getting burn in or anything. On the other hand Asus has a huge amount of service centres here. And the other thing for me is I mainly want a handheld for games from 2010 to 2020 and I like to mod them, is the steamdeck going to be hard for modding as well? I even made a pros and cons list for both of them and still can't decide. Any advice will be appreciated.

@MakedoneCD 6 месяцев назад

I'm decided. But now i have another dilemma, should i wait for Asus ROG Ally 2, or buy Ally Z1 Extreme instead right now? So tough choice. I will definitely mod Fallout 3, NV, Oblvion and Morrowind. Windows seems like more compatible choice for modding.

@akashj8204 6 месяцев назад

@@MakedoneCD so you too think modding will be better and easy on ally right? And I too am having the same dilemma about rog ally 2 or 1 extreme. Coz if ally 2 comes with an OLED panel then ohh my God.

@MakedoneCD 6 месяцев назад

I think so. Same here man, it's so hard choice I'll be so mad, if I buy Rog Ally 1 and second console will come in just few months after 🤯😬😅... I'm totally fked, i don't know what to do. I can't get any answer even from tons of recently watched videos with this topic on YT.

@dylanallen7720 6 месяцев назад

So many of yall act like windows is so damn hard to navigate 😂 jesus i dont get it

@bribair1278 6 месяцев назад

Windows randomly wakes up from sleep and when in sleep the battery drains fast because windows doesn't have a proper sleep mode. From a gaming standpoint windows sucks. I had an aya neo and it kept turning on in the case and over heating. Only way to stop it was to completely shut it down. Windows has much more issues than just navigation. I switched to the deck from a more powerful device because it was to unreliable. That's from my experience anyway

@fachasaurus 6 месяцев назад

While I absolutely adore the Deck, the fact that Game Pass alone works on the ROG Ally makes that device leagues ahead of the Steam Deck.

@germanturkish1664 6 месяцев назад

Its DF mate, they are always anti Microsoft. I bought both, the Deck non OLED and the Legion Go (new) and the Legion Go is just the better Handheld in every way. of course windows need a better UI for Handhelds but its no problem to navigate and lenovo is updating his own GUI for better experience.dont for get, with windows handhelds u get all launcher not only steam, u get the whole packet.....

@infernaltim 6 месяцев назад

@@fachasaurus Exactly this. Game Pass capability keeps my ROG Ally my main handheld.

@ReyPerez 6 месяцев назад

@@bribair1278I’ve gotten around this with hibernate. Takes longer to startup but it’s been properly resuming my games and there’s no random wake issues.

@aussieanon-369 5 месяцев назад

ASUS ROG Ally + Chimera OS = Powerful Steam Deck.

@simonsjodin6062 6 месяцев назад

I agree with John on the whole about the differences about usability between the Deck and Ally. But I love my Ally too, and if you have knowledge about Windows and don’t mind fiddling it’s great.

@cadraf 5 месяцев назад

My lcd SD is perfect for me. Growing up in the early 2000s and only having my first pc that was a laptop at 2006, a intel pentium with a integrated gpu, it was a pain in the ass, and i got used to play low spec games. Just enjoy the game fellas, stop worrying about specs and hardware, just get what can play the games you want, if you worry too much about hardware you will be changing and buying a new “console” pc every year.. Game devs need to optimize better their games. Remember ps3 specs and what it could run.

@flipwarrior 6 месяцев назад

I loved the original Steam Deck, with its crappy LCD screen, and I the OLED Steam Deck even more. It gives you console-like experience, with its simplicity, but you can also get into the details and customization of a PC. It has 4 back buttons, which I always use. The analog sticks are great, and I prefer the symmetrical stick placement. The screen is amazing! If you want to target 30 - 45 FPS, you can set the graphics of many PS4-era games to be even better than what the equivalent PS4 settings would be, besides resolutions of course. On a smaller screen, 1280 x 800 is pretty good.

@Meddixi 6 месяцев назад

Meanwhile I use ROG Ally every single day and love every moment with it. Experience with windows is a regular windows experience. Being able to play all games that I want without jumping hoops or connect unusual controllers that lack of entirely kills any usefulness of steam deck for me.

@gregs4163 6 месяцев назад

John couldn't be more wrong in my opinion. Windows not being on the Steam Deck was my very reason for not buying one! I want to be able to load all the other game launchers (Epic, EA, Ubisoft, Game pass etc....) not to mention any other windows app you want to throw on it (and Emulators or old DOS legacy games). The hardcore PC people that are buying it know the ins and outs of Windows just as they do on a desktop gaming rig! I love my Ally and all the power and Windows glory that comes with it.

@joeynox 6 месяцев назад

The rog ally has a gorgeous screen. I seriously don't see why everyone complains abou windows on the rog. It has worked flawlessly for me. I do agree I'd like a light version of windows on it but wi does is fine

@fuerte-af 5 месяцев назад

I disagree completly!! Steam is not powerful enough for many games and many are not even available. Yeah Rog Ally is far from perfect but You can play basically everything and also have a laptop!!!

@abdullaal-naimi9075 6 месяцев назад

For me, the OLED Steam Deck seems to be designed with me in mind. Great performance for low powered games, effective cooling and power saving features, and the ergonomics are fantastic. The Deck is such a thoughtfully designed device, Valve should be proud. And to answer the video's question, it's your requirements that determine if a handheld pc is a good purchase in the first place. Again for me, the Deck checked all the boxes for me; it was a no brainer.

@DevGods 6 месяцев назад

I got my ROG Ally brand new for 400$ and in my mind its a steal. I can legit build my game out in unreal and test it almost instantly laying in bed. Then play all the games in my steam library. For a developer the windows machine is a much smoother experience. Not to mention to get a steam deck that can compete with the performance I have to fork out 600 bucks. I've been running my games in different configs to get the most play time and as long as my settings are on med-low I can pretty much get 60fps on 12 w using 720p upscaled with sharpening. YALL TRIPPING! lol

@carlgutierrez2170 6 месяцев назад

Are you guys worried about burn in on the steamdeck oled?

@GameslordXY 6 месяцев назад

IF Switch OLED is anything to go by and assuming Deck OLED is same or better,there is nothing to worry about. Some crazy people (good crazy😂)left Switch OLED turned on for a year. 2 years even. 24h a day . There was some burn-in , but nothing too extreme given the circumstances. Translation: Responsible usage where you turn it off occasionaly during a day should secure you many years of joy. Otherwise there is a warranty . Depending on a country and merchant that can be anywhere from 1 to 2+ years.

@lasthopelost9090 6 месяцев назад

@@GameslordXYit seems the deck has no burn in mitigation and burns in quite quickly with how bright the screen can get

@kathleendelcourt8136 6 месяцев назад

To me the only alternatives to the Steam Deck are the GPD Win4 and the Ayaneo Flip (Keyboard or Dual Screen depending on if you'd rather have a true usable PC or the ultimate DS/3DS emulation platform).

@benm1889 6 месяцев назад

Steam deck OLED is just *Chefs Kiss* It plays multiple generations of games, emulates perfectly and can stream games from your home console better than these ‘dedicated’ streaming devices (coughs in PS Portal) thanks to WiFi 6 and that gorgeous screen. It really does it all.

@zenmillli 6 месяцев назад

The ROG Ally is available in my country and so will the next one when launched, the steamdeck isn't, unless you are willing to buy from importers and pay 15% more than the current Ally without warranty. Easy choice here, hehe 😅

@leeraym 6 месяцев назад

wait for the XBox and PlayStation Handheld. 👍👍

@pwrdbythefro2846 6 месяцев назад

The Xbox and PlayStation handheld will definitely happen. And they will benefit from optimization.

@leeraym 6 месяцев назад

@@pwrdbythefro2846 Hopefully the XBox Handheld launches Holiday 2024 and the PlayStation Handheld launches in 2028.

@lars5377 6 месяцев назад

I want to buy a Deck oled since months, But I can't decide whether to get glossy or anti-glare. It's driving me crazy.

@martinaee 6 месяцев назад

I’m waiting the long game for Switch 2, personally! Might take a bit longer, but my body is ready!

@OhWanya 4 месяца назад

I prefer the rog ally since its easier to install some othem bios like xbox OG and what nott❤ and it seems to have all the great point of the steam deck! I dont reslly care about battery since its most of the time plugged in or with a battery pack

@randysalsman6992 6 месяцев назад

I love the Steam Deck and the OLED even more so, I had them both. However what I hate about it, LCD or OLED version is that it's just so damn glitchy.

@BrooklynGamerNY 6 месяцев назад

The things these guys saying I don't know man you guys do your own research n play with all these machines before you go out and buy one I mess with both Ally and steam deck asus rog ally 100 times better and if the games not on Steam you have a lot of work to do and tinkering to get it up and running on the steam deck

@hihihi1q23 6 месяцев назад

The OLED is great if you're playing older, linux compatible games. It really struggles when it comes to more modern titles, though. If the next gen Rog Ally has a trackpad, I'd say wait for that.

@cyberedge881 6 месяцев назад

Nah, it plays some of best looking games on PC just fine. And the few that don't play great on the Steam Deck very often aren't that great on the Ally either. I also think that most people aren't doing ALL of their gaming on a handheld. Most people have a desktop PC or gaming console as well. And there are just some games that I prefer to experience on that more powerful hardware.

@evostu7814 6 месяцев назад

Steam deck is too limited for me, tried one but ultimately ended up going with a rog ally as it does everything my desktop does & it has vrr.

@TheAbvsyork 6 месяцев назад

I just got my Oled Steam deck, and it's amazing. I love it!

@brucewayne2955 6 месяцев назад

The biggest upgrade I want for ROG Ally 2 is Windows 12 Handheld Edition

@fehbari 6 месяцев назад

My money is on a theoretical OLED Ally with Bazzite installed.

@Madblaster6 6 месяцев назад

I still prefer the VRR to OLED and doing both is expensive since each pixel would need to have VRR instead of the whole panel.

@FPSmodz- 6 месяцев назад

Had the Steam Deck OLED for around a month. Anything that has its own launcher is best just on a Windows 10/11 to go Bootable USB plugged into the usb c port.

@BeyondImaginationzz 6 месяцев назад

it is weird that people buy handheld to play latest triple AAA games, I bought Steam Deck just to play old games

@lgd6619 5 месяцев назад

I love my steam deck I really do but its a bit of a pain in the backside if your completely unfamiliar with Linux thats for sure, I certainly wouldn't recommend it to anyone with zero PC knowledge

@chadwolf3840 6 месяцев назад

Oled steam deck hands down. It’s a phenomenal device.

@frankjohansen3132 6 месяцев назад

What is the point, dust collectors with a hefty price tag.

@phunnbaba 6 месяцев назад

I love the Ally - once you’re in the game you don’t care about about consolization.

@hausmaus5698 5 месяцев назад

Valve fans speak positively about Valve stuff. They completely close their eyes to reality. What's the point of having a "slightly" better OS if my games don't run properly? Helldivers 2 is unplayable on my Steam Deck on higher difficulties. On the other hand, the Rog Ally Z1 Extreme runs better at 1080p than the SD at 720p. If Valve installs the weaker SoC again in the second generation of the handheld, the other manufacturers will again be ahead in terms of performance. Everything else is just secondary in my opinion.

@Brandonhatesmayo 6 месяцев назад

If Valve can find a way to make a 1080p OLED screen last as long as they're doing right now, do 32gb ram, two USB C ports and give me two more cores on the CPU they'll have me for the foreseeable future.

@paprika2280 6 месяцев назад

Got my OLED yesterday and I'm amazed. Anyway I'd totally pay 1000€ plus for what you just described.

@boltmb3067 6 месяцев назад

If asus manage to bring the same power with a 2 hour+ battery, will out sell everything, especially if window makes a software more handheld oriented wich they said they work on it

@tomohawkcloud 6 месяцев назад

I’m still waiting for the next Valve Index Valve

@middle_pickup 6 месяцев назад

I can't believe I'm saying this, but the steam deck's implementation of linux is better. Windows on a handheld is painful. Valve did for mobile gaming what the OG xbox did for consoles. Microsoft scaled down their OS for gaming, and nothing else in the first xbox. Valve did the same thing with linux, but better in a handheld form factor.

@PSYCLOWN185 6 месяцев назад

Isn’t Steam deck also like $300 cheaper?

@marklaw7777 6 месяцев назад

RoOoOoG Ally. Love how they kept pronouncing it in this way 😂 The Steam Deck OLED is remarkable. I've gotten rid of my PS5 & Xbox Series X since owning it, as i just stopped using them.

@horrorjunkie96 6 месяцев назад

that 2nd paragraph is embarassing

@marklaw7777 6 месяцев назад

@@horrorjunkie96 like I give a shit.

@horrorjunkie96 6 месяцев назад

@@marklaw7777 you're obviously a closeted Switch player who cares nothing about graphics then. portability > 4K HDR in your eyes?

@marklaw7777 6 месяцев назад

@@horrorjunkie96 don't own a Switch & have no desire to. I have a Steam Deck OLED & Quest 3, which is all I need. Yes, I love portability. My children have a PS5 each, but I don't miss I at all.

@christianr.5868 6 месяцев назад

Got an oled,that’ll hold me over til the steam deck 2

@gangwu4541 6 месяцев назад

I will wait for SONY. If I can play native ps4 games on it.

@fatjawns3671 6 месяцев назад

Either way you win if you wait, OLED drops in price or you get a potentially much better handheld that improves performance and fixes the issues with the first.

@cyberedge881 6 месяцев назад

Yeah, but that's always true of technology. If you wait you will get something better. But at some point you really just need to seize the moment and start living life lol.

@DannyV834 6 месяцев назад

What about the Lenovo legion Go?

@Locutus73 6 месяцев назад

An underestimated point IMHO is: SteamOS may be more refined and optimized and streamlined for a handheld, but… many (most) of us are PC gamers with Windows rigs with carefully crafted environments, with game launchers (i.e. PlayNite), retro gaming setups (i.e. RetroBat with EmulationStation), different stores/services (i.e. GamePass)… …babysitting both Windows on the main rig and SteamOS on the handheld would be more work/hassle than just replicating the main rig Windows setup on one (or more than one) handheld, despite SteamOS being handheld oriented.

@saltyshackles5227 6 месяцев назад

I sold my steam deck after getting a ROG Ally. Steam Deck is too weak. Im sure the next-gen Steam Deck will be worth it.

@chonkusdonkus 6 месяцев назад

I'd buy a steam deck now, and then a steam deck once a new one comes out

@spectry6 Месяц назад

Pc gamers excited about a console experience. Console gamers excited about pc features.

@frogman-91 6 месяцев назад

I have a Steam Deck and ROG ally. The Ally is much better.

@drewcipher896 6 месяцев назад

The Steam Deck still out performs all other handhelds at 10 watts and below. If you're playing a low end game or a AAA game from before 2019 then the custom APU on the deck is still top class. Even for newer games like Elden Ring and Final Fantasy run great at 8-10 watts. And on the OLED model that's nearly 4 hours of playtime on battery. If you're running your handheld chip at 40+ watts and killing your battery in under an hour, what's the point of using a handheld. Get a gaming laptop.

@Reactor10k 6 месяцев назад

The Ally is significantly lighter than a laptop.

@stephenmcgauley 6 месяцев назад

Valve needs to figure out a way around anti cheat software to allow multiplayer games to I love my steam deck oled but it’s terribly disappointing that I can’t play the finals, cod,or even fall guys on steam deck.

@rustybroomhandle 6 месяцев назад

The Finals works just fine on SteamOS

@stephenmcgauley 6 месяцев назад

@@rustybroomhandle that’s weird cus when I try to install it on my steam deck it states that it’s Unsupported on the steam deck. I will have to give it go again.

@rustybroomhandle 6 месяцев назад

@@stephenmcgauleyIt was initially broken, but they added anticheat support on 14 January. Valve probably just have not updated the rating yet. Also, switch to Proton Experimental. Valve have been doing regular fixes for it.

@stephenmcgauley 6 месяцев назад

@@rustybroomhandle that is great news! Just installed it, thanks for the tip! Not sure how I missed this…….oh yeah, it’s cus I have kids. lol

@usk8 6 месяцев назад

I have the deck oled. Just bought a 2tb M2 drive, so looking to dual boot in the coming days. Mainly for game pass library. That's the only thing I would want from a windows handheld.

@drikani95 6 месяцев назад

I mean Valve already has the cooperation with Ayaneo to bring SteamOS to their next handheld, I would like to see how that turns out. Also I am sure that they will eventually bring SteamOS to the desktop to get rid of Windows or at least try and break into that space. If the succeed with it I would gladly switch from my Windows PC if most of my games work there. Sure nVidia and the big Developers like Ubisoft (Anno) etc have to play along but Steam is such a big player in the PC space that I think Valve could make a big impact here. Maybe even Microsoft would embrace it as it seems that it is not important for them where you play their games as long as you subscribe to GamePass 😂

@horrorjunkie96 6 месяцев назад

what benefits would SteamOS bring to desktop over Windows?

@WhoButBilly 6 месяцев назад

Love my ally 💯

@Pedro-S1lva 6 месяцев назад

agreed

@walawala-fo7ds 6 месяцев назад

Literally have no idea what any of that means. I'll keep my 4090 thanks.

@davidagiel8130 5 месяцев назад

Wait for the next gen Steam Deck and put Windows on an SD card instead!

@tobyreinhardt9022 6 месяцев назад

I only take advice from REEL DUDES!

@rubenalejandrojozaminassif142 6 месяцев назад

I think John is judt extremely biased against the rog ally. I HAVE BOTH AND OLAY MY ROG ALLY BETTER. I ALSO LOVE WINDOWS BECAUSE I CAN DO EVERYTHING I WANT.

@JohnNguyenVincent 6 месяцев назад

I have both, and i prefer the Asus Ally. Steam Deck is too underpowered

@jenslyn87 6 месяцев назад

Valve ought to pay you! 😁 just bought a Deck OLED

@anthonyrizzo9043 6 месяцев назад

I would wait for a next gen steam deck. The copycat systems are not the same. Steamdeck is the handheld Microsoft should have been able to make.

@ninjabastard 6 месяцев назад

linux is pretty decent for gaming nowadays. I started running pop os and had my windows as a back up if i needed it. Never really did except for the 1 turbotax small business application i have to use once a year. Everything else is pretty cross platform. Except adobe.

@MajesticBowler 6 месяцев назад

Why wait for next-gen Ally? Current ROG Ally is already much better device than Steam Deck. Much faster, support Game Pass and multiplayer games like Fortnite, Call of Duty, Valorant which is not possible on Steam Deck. Steam Deck will never be able to compete with Windows handhelds. Linux don't support modern APU from AMD, game pass, anti-cheats... ROG Ally: - 8 TFLOPS RDNA 3 (4nm chip) - 8 core CPU - VRR - 120 Hz screen - Game Pass Steam Deck / Steam Deck OLED - 1.6 TFLOPS RDNA 2 (7nm chip) - 4 core CPU - no support of VRR - no support of Game Pass

@JudahiamKng 5 месяцев назад

lol this is exactly what I just said before I saw Your comment but you said it in a better way. These people are paid by valve I’m convinced at this point

@dustarma 6 месяцев назад

Windows issues aside, I have doubts that the next iteration of the Rog Ally or other handheld PCs will be efficient enough to improve performance in a significant way, the Steam Deck already outperforms the windows handhelds at lower wattages and for the other handhelds to have a significant lead they have to crank up the wattage so much that battery life and heat output goes to hell. The only way I can see a big improvement from a next gen handheld is via another custom SoC that's tuned for efficiency like Valve's Aerith was. The high core count and clocks on the current off-the-shelf SoCs are excessive and do nothing but limit wattage for the GPU and destroy battery life.

@EhurtAfy 6 месяцев назад

Yes, mobile chips simply aren't powerful enough yet. Maybe in another 3-5 years. Although teraflops are increasingly poor at measuring performance they can give a decent estimation. Right now in 2024, the best mobile chips are like 2-3 tflops and perform similarly to a base PS4. Yet in comparison, average gamer desktops are like 10tflops or more, so roughly on par with a PS5 or better. It's a world of difference between mobile and gpu, but now chips have a lot more than CPU cores. Apple A16 has six CPU cores, 5 GPU cores, and 16-core Neural Engine. so measuring performance is more difficult

@MajesticBowler 6 месяцев назад

With current drivers ROG Ally is already 50% faster than it was in June 2023. It will be even faster with new AMD drivers that will support frame generation in every game and DX12 Work Graphs. New Work Graphs will be biggest change on Windows handhelds because it was designed to lower CPU usage. This is very important on handhelds where you have 15 watt of energy divided between CPU and GPU. With DX12 Work Graphs CPU usage will be lower and handheld will use higher GPU frequency I expect that DX12 Work Graphs will be huge game changer on handhelds

@niks660097 6 месяцев назад

@@EhurtAfy Teraflops are still a good metric on same architecture, also teraflops are upper bound, your gpu won't ever be faster than its rated TFLOPs, but it will definately be slower, but how much slower? depends upon how good the architecture is i.e how much scheduler and memory bandwidth/cache can keep GPU busy all the time.

@germanturkish1664 6 месяцев назад

what shit are u talking about? Steam Deck is slower at less watts. just watch the benchmarks with newer driver for LegionGo or Ally. Iam Steam Deck User for 1 year and my New Handhelds is the Legion Go, it outperfomance the Deck in EVERY FU CKING CATEGORY, much better handheld and the screeen is just AMAZING. we just need a Windows Update for better Handheld UI, thats it. i dont want a handheld only with Steam anymore. i want my whole libary and thats also EA PLAY UBISOFT GOG OR EPIC. Steam Deck is just for STEAM and the games are not running native, the most games are running with proton (Emu),,,,,,,,blind deck fanboys

@zomg346 6 месяцев назад

@@germanturkish1664show me these 10 tdp benchmarks where deck lose ?

@SireDragonChester 6 месяцев назад

We know steam os is coming desktop pc and other devices. We just don’t know when. Valve said it will be coming. We just wish we knew when.

@deckverse 6 месяцев назад

It's available already, just opt for Bazzite or any other optimised bistro with SteamOS frontend.

@SireDragonChester 6 месяцев назад

@@deckverse I want official one from Valve. Not like haloiso. Last time tried haloISO it was very buggy. specially on my GTX 1080ti. Game mode would constantly crash. And just trying reboot desktop mode was pain in the butt.

@gotenks157 6 месяцев назад

@@SireDragonChester Honestly, Nvidia in Linux is always hit or miss. it works sure, but its always got some kind of issue. I have a 4090 and have tried Linux on this machine a few times and I always get some kind of video issue.

@BeyondImaginationzz 6 месяцев назад

porting anticheat to only Valve Steam OS will be great too to solve many config problem of Linux, hope valve provide some anticheat framework for Steam Deck/OS

@gotenks157 6 месяцев назад

@@BeyondImaginationzz maybe not steamos but to the steam deck specifically. Otherwise you would still have the issue of it being Linux on endless amounts of hardware configurations.

@cyberedge881 6 месяцев назад

I bought the Steam Deck OLED and loved it so much that it got me to buy the ROG Ally, since I was just too curious to see if it was better. I actually think the ROG Ally is an amazing device, but in the end I decided to return it because I feel that the Steam Deck OLED is simply the more balanced device. I have to agree with John's take here.

@cyberedge881 6 месяцев назад

I will further explain my thinking. The ROG Ally's greater performance simply didn't matter to me as much as I might have hoped. The issue is that for the few games where I don't feel that the Steam Deck is giving me a satisfying experience I usually want to play those games on my desktop PC anyway. And the ROG Ally isn't great for those games either. The difference in the real world just isn't that massive. I don't play many multiplayer games these days, but when I do I prefer to play on a powerful desktop PC with a high end controller to give myself the optimal odds. So, in practice, there just wasn't that much that the Ally did better that I wouldn't rather be handled by my desktop. A powerful desktop PC at home and a Steam Deck for away from home (or around the house) feels like the perfect setup for me.

@hypnogri5457 6 месяцев назад

I prefer the steam deck due to the increased battery life and higher comfort. I also really like both of the trackpads

@christianr.5868 6 месяцев назад

I prefer the battery life and user experience on the deck tbh

@GameslordXY 6 месяцев назад

@@cyberedge881 For around the house? Isn't Switch then the best option? The OLED version perhaps?

@Bambeakz 6 месяцев назад

@@GameslordXY The Switch is ancient hardware now. Maybe the Switch 2 soon but still it can’t not even do half of the things the SD can. Access to a Steam library that will work on the next Steamdeck/PC while the Switch 2 will not not have bc so you can buy everything again. Steam has much better sales, can stream from my PC, Xbox series X, PS5 and Xcloud(gamepass) and free emulation. My Switch is done and dusted since I bought the SD at release and that thing will never leave my house 😅

@rappr88 6 месяцев назад

Having used and owned both a Steam Deck and the ROG Ally, the issues with the Windows interface are being wayyyyy overblown. The Ally is worth it to me because of 1. PC Game Pass and 2. No compatibility issues. SteamOS is good, but I would still come across the occasional game that would crash under their compatibility layer vs. just working on the Ally, because it runs Windows.

@shto4782 6 месяцев назад

Steam deck is the only handheld we have period

@adds-kz3oc 6 месяцев назад

On the flip side the Steam Deck actually has better compatibility for older Windows/DOS games than Windows 11 itself.

@Ismsanmar 6 месяцев назад

A true old school PC gamer doesn't care about Game Pass, because it's the same sh it that MS tried to put into the PC gaming world when they wanted to make online play paid, because on console they got it.

@mikeuk666 6 месяцев назад

@@shto4782misinformation

@batzraph708 6 месяцев назад

Agreed. I found the ROG to be much better than my previous steam deck. I don't use gamepass, just steam, GOG and ubi. Easier to run emulators. Stream games from PlayStation, pc it can play all games. 1080p display RDNA 3 ZEN 4 Dolby Atmos More power options Better customizable control options

@zacharialopez4284 6 месяцев назад

I have the ally and I think it’s great. Good enough to hold me over til the 3rd variant or something. Btw the UI is not a problem in the slightest. Windows with debloat. I’ve always had pc/windows tho

@gotenks157 6 месяцев назад

Have you tried SteamOS on a handheld though? I've used both and the difference is huge.

@rfx8459 5 месяцев назад

@@gotenks157Yes and for my games they don’t launch either due to proton incompatibility, Anti cheat denial, or they’re on Gamepass which happens to be a significant amount of my library. A lot of us want to just pack up our Gaming windows machines into a tiny powerful package. We are not in the market for a new console that comes ofcourse with its pros like Xbox and PS5 do, but also its own cons specifically unique to it. For others, there’s a market for it though, especially its many peoples first entry into “PC gamin”

@KnightMD 6 месяцев назад

Straight to the point. Steam OS is the killer feature.

@justswitched8841 6 месяцев назад

Yeah but you can't play every game. Some games can't be played online either.

@Megatrance9000 6 месяцев назад

Eventually you can install Steam OS on anything though

@MattWiles 6 месяцев назад

@@justswitched8841every game 😂 why do we need to play every game? Have you seen how many there are on Steam?!

@KnightMD 6 месяцев назад

@@justswitched8841 I'd rather have Steam OS and be able to play 99.9% of games (my experience over 1.5 years) vs have Windows and have a drastically inferior experience 100% of the time, but being able to run that 0.1% of games that won't run on Steam.

@adds-kz3oc 5 месяцев назад

@@justswitched8841 nor can you play every game on Windows 11. It's a moot point.

@sidbangaloo3356 6 месяцев назад

Alright that’s it, buying an OLED NOW!

@XZ-III 6 месяцев назад

honestly most hand helds are better on release, cuz it feels like due to how games are released , get weaker over time

@ahmadfaizmubarok1692 6 месяцев назад

I disagree with this. They need some time for the software to be polish for a better experience.

@vincentwarte4435 6 месяцев назад

Quick suspend and quick resume are HUGE. Unless Microsoft implements those features into Windows, I won't ever even consider a Windows handheld.

@davidfaustino4476 6 месяцев назад

LOL experience.. I couldnt possibly care less. I already game on Windows and the Ally has a touchscreen which works surprisingly great for dealing with Windows. I cant play my back catalog on the Steam Deck.

@MCSchuscha 6 месяцев назад

Put steam os on ally and stop crying!

@randyortiz8368 6 месяцев назад

Never thought I'd hear John say "Ah, yeah, that's tight!" 😂

@gangwu4541 6 месяцев назад

I have both a steam deck lcd and a ROG Ally. I don’t see why you have to exaggerate so much on windows being inferior as a gaming OS compares to that of the steam OS. I guess majority PC gamers are using windows. I play all sorts of games on these devices as well as on my PS4 and 5 consoles. I never thought for one second that one of these gaming devices is “drastically superior” to another in terms of gaming experiences just because of one has a particular OS or UI that the others don’t. In fact, I have encountered all kinds of weird issues on all of those systems, and somehow, I managed to overcome them and be able to enjoy my games. Maybe I’m wrong but saying there is no point of having non steam OS handheld is real bold statement. Especially from a tech channel dedicated on gaming hardwares.

@SlyNine 6 месяцев назад

I would, almost, abandon windows for a steam OS if it ran as well on my PC as the steamdeck. I just wish it had better support for other game stores.

@conchobar 6 месяцев назад

@@SlyNine As long as Steam OS Desktop mode continues to looks and feel like Windows XP, it will remain No Bueno!!!!

@RC-pj1pr 6 месяцев назад

Microsoft could transform the PC handheld by developing it alongside the next Xbox. Instead of a “Series S” they should develop a handheld alongside the main console. Less powerful, but dockable. They can call it “Series H”. Xbox OS is Windows Kernel based, so they could adapt it so that it runs primarily, with an option to enter a desktop mode, similar to Steam Deck. MS would need to produce a solid OS/build, and develop a strategy for ongoing optimisation, but it would be possible. As they build Windows, and with it being closed-source, MS are the best-placed company who could really nail this.

@briengakaplan-b1550 6 месяцев назад

There are rumors the next Xbox will be portable as it’s being worked on by the Surface team.

@RC-pj1pr 6 месяцев назад

@@briengakaplan-b1550 They really need to make it PC-based though, allow Steam integration. If they can build a “consolised” version of Windows (which admittedly Xbox is), whilst still allowing full Desktop OS access on the fly, then it could rival the steam deck. At present Windows handhelds are far too cumbersome for mass-market appeal.

@ayovenom9906 6 месяцев назад

the whole point of pc handhelds is the option to play most games on the market. a handheld from microsoft and xbox would just have its own ecosystem and probably charge you to play online tbh

@RC-pj1pr 6 месяцев назад

@@ayovenom9906 that’s why I said it should be Windows-based, with the option to boot into the full OS, but primarily use a bespoke-build, where games can be optimised for the specs. Gives you the flexibility.

@Madblaster6 6 месяцев назад

I can’t believe Digital Foundry talk bad on the Ally. While windows isn’t the best for handhelds it’s not impossible to work and play games. The Windows hate is overblown. I have both and love my Steam Deck. While SD is console like experience it’s only with your steam library. There’s also more performance on the Ally that makes a difference in a lot of games like NFS Unbound. At the cost of battery but no one is forcing you to go beyond 15watts. It’s great to have the option. everything I can on the Ally I can do on the SD. And vice versa except for incompatible Linux games. Also no one talks about less down time with the Ally charging a lot faster. There’s a 100% bias here.

@Madblaster6 6 месяцев назад

Also while Ally had growing pains it’s improved a lot. SD also had growing issues too.

@techgamingzw7857 6 месяцев назад

Rog ally is awesome ... Steam deck is a no for newer games

@davidjapri5947 6 месяцев назад

i prefer rog ally over steamdeck oled. no issue with battery life. more performance more power also vrr are game changer than vivid display.

@mrwalker6026 6 месяцев назад

If the next Rog All has a 7.5 inch Oled display with VRR and slightly improved performance/battery life I wouldn't want to be stuck with a SD Oled

@GabrielCarvalho-gd8op 6 месяцев назад

How about installing ChimeraOS on the Ally? Where I live, the Ally is cheaper, so I would like to understand if we can make the Ally better by going Linux (specially those frametimes)

@conchobar 6 месяцев назад

Plenty of videos of people putting ChimeraOS on the Ally, none of them show any signficant improvement over Windows.

@GabrielCarvalho-gd8op 6 месяцев назад

@@conchobarBut what about usability? Chimera is supposed to be a more console like experience, right?

@conchobar 6 месяцев назад

@@GabrielCarvalho-gd8op There are plenty of videos on youtube to help you make your decision. I would link one here, but most youtubers delete any comments with links. ETA Prime has a good video

@aussieanon-369 5 месяцев назад

@@GabrielCarvalho-gd8opit's basically the Steam Deck OS on different hardware.