Should I use Grenade Pistol over Impact Grenades? Ballistic shield Loadout! Helldivers 2 

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I go with granade pistol + impact granades + armor with 2 extra granades I really like to explode things :)

Freeing up the impacts for the stun grenade is a very valuable trade. For example for enemies that need precision shots (like hulks with the autocannon or antimaterial rifle), you can stun them to easily dispose of them, or you can use the stun grenade to block off a group of enemies. Then the grenade pistol does everything the impact grenade does, at a reduced damage cost for high armour targets, but as secondaries are rarely ever used over primaries or support weapons (unless when wielding an sssd, or when using the eruptor for proximity targets), so using the grenade pistol (which has a higher amount of uses than the impacts at deployment, which is useful for opening bunker crates, or destroying fabricators/bug holes before running out).

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My main takeaway from this video is that you can shoot out the lights that blind you in fog. I can't believe I never knew that.

"Instead of impacts" Me w impact, nade launcher, eruptor and Nade pistol 😳

I agree. If it really is that much weaker than a regular grenade, plus requiring a reload animation, it should get more ammo back per pick-up than it does right now. I thought it seemed fair before, but knowing this... yeah, it needs better ammo economy. Having to steal a whole resupply pod from your team is nuts if it's not actually as strong as a real grenade.

It’s a very interesting secondary and can be very useful, but for my two play styles, Senator wins. The grenade pistol is too ammo hungry and deprives me of my stealthy devastator one-taps. Maybe if they buff the DCS I’ll use it.

I plan to run both impacts and nade pistol. The ability to erase major threats without using stratagems is a serious advantage

Can we please get rid of the bug that launches you forward instead of backward when you get hit by an explosion thank you arrowhead

broooo the texture on your scope how do you hit anything

It's good if you're not expecting to survive for long periods of time, since you get fresh ammo with every respawn and resupply boxes don't restore it's ammo efficiently. It's basically like swapping your secondary for a set of long range impact grenades. Should be handy for bot missions when using a primary that is efficient at clearing light enemies.

The main thing I wanted the grenade pistol for was so I could bring stuns. I needed a bug hole closer AND a bile spewer killer. It takes 2 shots to kill a bile spewer and if it can kill them in 1, its very hard to land that shot (skill issue). 6 impacts + supply pack > stuns and grenade pistol when theres 10+ spewers coming out of breaches. Its still a great utility but I went back to impacts vs bugs.

A quick heads up, the stated DMG for the nade pistol is not for the explosion alone, is in fact the sum of the projectile (shell) plus the explosion, for that reason it does a little less explosive DGM than the impact nade. As I've said so many time at this point, this games has so much undisclosed info under the hood, is hard to test stuff really, but is even more difficult to make decisions based on the available info alone, compounded by the fact that some of the info is outright wrong or misleading.

I've actually never had problems running out of ammo. Blowing yourself up gets you a full restock!

Thank you for the info I want to try the shield so bad but don’t wanna give up my jump pack haha

The Grenade Pistol is exactly what I needed for my playstyle since the Arc Thrower can't open containers anymore and I switched to Stun grenades against the Bots.

About the armour values, I find it more intuitive the 2 medium armours as medium 1 and medium 2 rather than true or false, since most weapons labelled as medium pen only penetrate the lower level, so it doesn’t make sense to call them false. In fact, AMR and AC aren’t labelled as medium pen at all

I love the granade pistol with the sheild. I've been using it to great success.

It’s THE BEST PISTOL WHEN PAIRED WITH THE SICKLE!! And a guard dog and impact grenades! Greta weapon loadout

Keep in mind you can bring an ammo backpack. Also gives you more stims and normal grenades.

I often run both the grenade pistol and impact grenades, which makes ammo issues a thing of the past, it is a lot more rare to run into a point of interest with neither ammo or grenade packs than it is to run into one with just one or the other. Bug nests also often have ammo nearby, and so do some bot factories, where grenades packs are quite rare in that spot. The ability to convert ammo packs into explosives is extremely nice, even if it is a trickle of grenades not a torrent. I do think supply packs should give more, I don't like that it takes 4 packs to go from empty to full. But still, getting 2 impacts and 2 pistol grenades from each pack is quite nice if you run them together.

That was the most painful tank AMRing I've ever seen. If on top of the turret oriented towad the heatsink, stand to the right side of it on the very corner and turn. You can quickly spam out 6 shots hipfire no trouble.

Keep one thing in mind about comparisons: Ammo is much easier to find than grenades in this game. An ammo pack will refill your pistol, but not your impact grenade count. You can always bring both as I intend to do.

I love the grenade pistol. I like having stun grenades and having a backup weapon to help me retrieve my autocannon when I die (or drop into a hot spot) is super useful.

The best use I had recently was on a bot mission and there was a jammer right next to a detection tower so we couldn’t call in a hellbomb. I was able to take it out from outside the base due to the pistol, with less drop off so easier to land in the vent. Most of the team died too many times and couldn’t collect their supports from dropship spam

I like to bring both on bug missions a lot goves me so much boom to work with to go along with all the flames i like bring.

the lower damage means if you run a true rocket like EAT, laser canon this thing is relegated to just utility. It does not fill the horde clearing role/ medium killing role of impacts.

This is actually my go-to bot loadout currently. I keep swapping back and forth between stuns and just more impacts. It's been a really fun playstyle and gets a lot of comments from public lobbies. My brother thought it was a primary weapon. Kept asking where i got that shield i keep running around with.

My "understanding" of the damage numbers, is that they for some reason like the idea of combining the damage of the bullet with the damage of the explosion for weapons that do that. For an extremely small explosion like the scorcher this maybe makes sense, but for the grenade pistol it definitely does not. I'm imagining the direct hit projectile eats into a bit of that 600, and then "damage dropoff over distance" is probably harsher, causing aoe blasts to require more ammo. They really need to change the stats screen altogether. What they gave us is "okay" for a quick-look, but it tells us basically nothing about actual properties of the weapons. They could have those stats there as a basic quicklook, and a full page screen for more relevant stats and that'd probably clear so many more things up about so many weapons--and armors too. It'd be nice for Stratagems too, since we can't even see those weapon's stats.

Sickle, Hand Held Grenade Launcher, Stuns and Quasar have been a good Econ build for me .

wait, it has the same splash radius? whenever I try to take out nests and fabricators with it, it just wouldn't work unless I aimed dead center. specially fabricators, feels like I need to aim at the exact pixel for them to work. I kinda assumed that was because of low explosion radius...

i found that running stun grenades with extra 2 nade perk + 500kg is a crazy combination. run through a choke between two mountains, throw a 500kg behind you, 3 stun grenades, boom, 40 kills.

How much ammo do you get for the grenade pistol back from simple ammo recharge on the ground?

I couldnt take down fabricators with the pistol...wasnt sure what i was doing wrong

I would hate if the GLP got ammo from grenade boxes. The fact it gets ammo from ammo boxes feels so much nicer since you find way more ammo boxes then grenade boxes. Getting 2 back from the boxes and 3 from resupply would be nice though.

For me I like running the grenade pistol as a secondary makes it a lot easier to run stun for my grenade slot which come especially useful against hulks and meat grinders. Granted if I am running something like the eruptor than I'll swap it out for one of the other pistols. Though for bugs I might not use it as much since it isn't as viable as an emergency escape weapon plus huge bug nests will be too much for a single nade pistol. Regardless at the end of the day it is still a really solid grenade pistol. Just hope they increase the resupply to it cause it does need a boost. Get far too little back for it.

You want to it to change to reload for the super scarce grenade packs that you find like 3 on a mission, instead of the ammo packs you find like 5 for every place of interest?

Im looking to get stuns to make better use of the grenade pistol. My meta loadout will be amr/quasar/spear, scorcher primary, grenade pistol, stuns.

I feel like giving up the power shield for this shield is a little goofy. I usually run power shield with light eradicator armor to tank a missle to the face once it depletes, keeps me mobile, and for grenades I just use the larger radius frag, forgot the name. They need to make some more single handed weapons and then maybe the riot shield would be more enticing, but even then they could still be run with the power shield.

How is your AMR scope so low res?

Just got the dagger unlocked last night. Lol guess this will be the next thing I'm working on

I really like the grenade pistol because I can now run smokes without losing the ability to destroy fabricators. I haven't used stuns on terminids yet, but I suspect that once the DOT damage bug is squished, I'm going to run incendiaries on bug missions.

dont know if it would be cool to test but if you shoot the tank tracks on both tank types you can prevent it from turning or moving, i havent tested every weapon but i can say the autocannon takes around 4 or 5 shots to disable 1 track

Honestly though, most of us are probably dying a few times during a run at high level. And reinforcing gets you all your ammo back. So even with the low ammo pickup amount for nade pistol, most players are gonna get SO MANY more grenades per battle using this thing.

My issue (and this is my opinion.) with the grenade pistol is the ammo. You always land with half ammo, picking up an ammo pack only gives you one round each (you get two loads with an auto cannon backpack per ammo pack), you get very little ammo and you have to reload between every single shot. That armor penetrations being way smaller than the impact grenade makes me feel like the magnum pistol or machine pistol would be a better use of space. While the ballistics shield combo would be a safer way to throw explosives, you only get 4-8 shots and have to reload between EVERY. SINGLE. SHOT. I can throw 4 impact grenades in rapid succession to save myself, but get one grenade pistol shot and get destroyed by the rocket devestator during the reload. If there was more ammo storage, maybe getting 2 grenade rounds per ammo pickup and more armor penetration like normal grenades do, I’d say it’d be worth the reload hassle, but for me, it’s more of a hazard to bring along and you’d be better off bringing the grenade launcher stratagem. Again, that’s my opinion, but maybe other people have better strategies for it to make it work out. But for me, it just wasn’t worth the 60 medals.

I've started using stun grenades exclusively, and grenade pistol. Tiers 7-9 solo

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Why does your anti-mat rifle scope optic look so jank and jagged?

Resupply for this is fine where it is. This is an extremely powerful SECONDARY

new bot loadouts gonna be medium engineering kit armor, ballistic shield, smg, impact grenades, grenade pistol, and prob eats or quezar, grenademaxxing goes crazy

The 600dmg is definitely misleading due to how armor pen work, with impact i can reliably kill spewer with two of them while with the GL it often take 3~4 shots

I've been trying to make a grenadier build work with impact+grenade pistol+supply pack, but against bugs, there's not really an ammo hungry primary weapon that can easily take down hunters. Liberator vanilla works, but it's pretty efficient on it's own. Adjudicator small clip size makes it kinda garbo for hunters.

I can one-shot Bile/Nursing Spewers with one impact grenade that does 400 dmg, but a direct hit from a pistol 'nade that does 600! damage doesn't one-shot them?

Have they fixed the ballistic shield's hug emote bug?

My problem is I’m in love with the Eruptor so I need a close quarters secondary

Now we need stun grenade pistol, incindiary grenade pistol, etc etc

For my bug build and bot build, the grenade pistol is a must have

If you want to kill any more than one, maybe two bugs at once, no. It's basically for tunnel busting when you don't want to use the Eruptor as primary.

Seems balanced, it's supposed to be used as a utility for closing bug holes and fabricators first and foremost, with better range than standard nades. This is similar to Gonne-6 in Rainbow Six Siege - you sacrifice your secondary for utility. Nothing prevents you from bringing impact nades on top of this grenade pistol either. If it was any better, you'd probably always use this + stun grenades. That'd be wrong

The grenade pistol for me was the last piece of the ballistic shield puzzle for my bot loadout. I have Never had as much fun as I have running shield / defender / G.Pistol / AMR / Stuns. I get to run around feeling like an actual tank with so much utility between my pistol and my stun nades, I just really fucking hope they fix the stim bug soon because my god, lowering my shield just to heal is annoying.

One weapon I'd like to see is a shotgun revolver in the future. I got nothing else.

i love running stuns with the grenade pistol, it's so nice getting to stun chargers or hulks while still being able to close nests or destroy fabricators also hi :3

When I have the chainsaw box running at me, I take impact grenades and a grenade pistol with me at all times and it just seems like impact grenades are more useful bot bases you need like a perfect shot because the grenade does not bounce in

While using the grenade pistol last night I discovered it does enough damage to 1 shot those pesky stalkers

playing with Impact grenades since i unlocked them, they are so much better than the pistol. U can almost 2 shot everything. Like the torrets he showed where u need 3 shots with the pistol or 4 when u dont aim perfect at the yellow line. U can just 2 shot it with the grenade, dont need to perfect aim at the yellow line, 2 shot the hulk and 2 shot every heavy stuff. Obviously higher rate and since we got the infinite grenade glitch its like an small nuke on unlimited

Grenade pistol and Impact together. It’s what I always use. With Incinerate Breaker. Great against Termind

It's a good combo with quasar. Shooting a vent with quasar, then poppin it with the pistol will take it out. Not the best method, but I like the speed of it

Is this why the xbow feels so bad against mediums? I figured it does like 400+ damage and explodes, it should shred mediums. But it just doesn't, at all. It's good for trash and that's about all.

It should get back 2 ammo per small pack and 4 from a large

Easily the best side if your primary isn't one of the newer explosive weapons.

Honestly, I would take the grenade pistol and impact grenades.

Ammo is common enough that a crate or two is always left behind a POIs, I agree it should give you more from each, but I still prefer getting recharges from ammo slots, grenade boxes are SCARCE.

Still getting pulled towards explosions...

why do some explosions draw you towards it and others blast you away

Am I the only one that has issues with the grenade pistol blowing up fabricators. I’ll shoot at the vents on top and one time it will blow it up perfectly in one shot, next time I can shoot the damn things 5 times and it still won’t blow up for some reason.

For now nades are definitely better, because I can bug them to be infinite

I feel like you are missing the whole point of a grenade pistol. I'm just gonna let you try to figure it out though.

I real player, will use any weapon and any strategem to full efficient extent. Because they understand there is no meta, Just fun _ actual skill.

the eruptor has made grenades useless. im on stuns now

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1:32 brrrrrrrrrr

"Joe Biden returned to civilian life" lmao 😂

Does carrying the shield on your back protect you from shots? Like a turtle 🐢

Just a thought grenade pistol, eruptor, stun grenades, ballistic shield and laser cannon against automatons.

The problem is that unless you are running some wild build, The Redeemer Uzi is top 3 guns in the game, waaaaaay too useful against bugs and bots to be replaced by this lame grenade launcher, period end of story, it would have to atleast come close to the Uzi, unfortunately it is not even half the weapon the Redeemer is so gg. I use the Eruptor because it is the best weapon in the game, and when Berserks charge in the grenade pistol does jack all.....Against bots the secondary has to be good against Berserkers to even have a chance of being brought. All it is good for is just hitting bug holes....thats LAME, and again still not worth giving up the Uzi for, not even close. Slightly frustrating because I was looking for a fresh new pistol weapon tO USE....Seems we may be just using the Redeemer for a long time

Grenade pistol grenade launcher, eruptor and impact grenades and supply pack. Lol

how are there so few enemies in this vid, bots spawn at least 10 times as much..

Be me... use both

Use Stun Grenades, use Grenade Pistol. If enemy spawns, stun them all, grenade pistol them and shoot the rest. This is my go to setup now. Supply backpack, grenade pistol, stun grenades + whatever primary + whatever support weapon for the mission.

But think about how you could run with either the Eruptor or Plasma Punisher, Grenade Pistol, Impact Grenades, Grenade Launcher, Mines, Mortar Turret, 500 Kg Eagle, and the 380mm Orbital and be a danger to EVERYONE!!!!!! Everywhere is Danger Close! Fun for the whole family!!!!.....Sorry, I think I'm too into the spirit of my ship's name, SES Leviathan of Destruction. I ain't down here on this planet for 40 minutes with the bugs. The planet is now subject to 40 minutes of unfettered, explosive relandscaping.

Q: “Should I use the GP over impact grenades?” A: No

Lol. Joe Biden returned to civilian life.

Grenade pistol buffed the sickle because now you can run stun grenades and get to those weak spots a lot easier.

5:02 wtf is that horrible sight picture

Wait. YOU CAN TAKE OFF A HULKS FUCKING LEGS!?!?

now what we need is a new one handed primary weapon

1:25 "Joe Biden returned to civilian life" | I'm really hoping we get more one handed primary weapons for pairing with the shield

I feel like all the enemies get better upgrades than us. These aliens had a whole mobile bot factory walking around the map. Brand new aircraft too. C'MON SON! They have chainsaws and firepower that work ALL the time. We get useless weapons, and creators telling us how great the new weapons are for views. I haven't found any weapons more powerful than the ones on the FIRST premium War Bond. I guess it's pretty cool that we don't have to spend actually money on them. Weapons on the latest bond aren't even worth grinding for.

No reason crossbow shouldn’t be one handed