Should NHS staff be allowed to refuse service to 'racist' rioters? | LBC debate

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People who are racist to NHS staff 'can and should' be turned away, Health Secretary Wes Streeting has said.
The government "will not tolerate" continued violence across the country in the aftermath of the Southport stabbings, Mr Streeting stressed.
He hit out at the "mindless thuggery" seen on streets over the past week, adding that the people who attacked two Filipino nurses in Sunderland had "brought enormous shame on our country".
The nurses were attacked on Friday evening as they travelled to work to provide emergency cover during the unrest. The taxi they were travelling in was pelted with rocks.
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@harrybacon419 Месяц назад

There is a difference between treating people you don’t like, and refusing to treat someone who is literally abusing you whilst you are trying to do it

@Xerus35 Месяц назад

Like the Islamists.

@KoshVorlon-xb3wq Месяц назад

@Xerus35 When, where, evidence?

@Xerus35 Месяц назад

@@KoshVorlon-xb3wq Put your finger up your backside to find it.

@abegarfield7031 Месяц назад

@@Xerus35 Keep your fantasies to yourself.

@Xerus35 Месяц назад

@@abegarfield7031 You can do it for your boyfriend.

@tebsm4783 Месяц назад

Nope. You don’t get to abuse the people providing you with a service. Even my bus driver can chuck me off the bus if I become abusive. It’s not that complicated. Actions have consequences.

@henrydemonfreid1985 Месяц назад

Yes! Exactly! The bus driver analogy is perfect.

@johnmurray5573 Месяц назад

So simple you got the binary question wrong. You said nope. Then explained why it's in your opinion yes

@tebsm4783 Месяц назад

@@johnmurray5573 Oh bless your heart John. My point was made and understood. I hope you’ve enjoyed the attention you so desperately crave. Have a lovely evening.

@johnmurray5573 Месяц назад

@@tebsm4783nope. Or yes. Doesn't matter lol

@tebsm4783 Месяц назад

@@johnmurray5573 well it clearly mattered to you John. Night, night.

@michaeld633 Месяц назад

A&E departments throughout the country have signs which advise patients that abusive behaviour will not be tolerated this is not a new thing ! If people can’t behave they should be shown the door !

@Putnamsmif Месяц назад

The problem is that NHS management don't carry those threats through.

@tomwright9904 Месяц назад

That's a nice sentiment for the people working there but then consider rude and abusive behavior that staff might engage in and the power imbalance that comes along with the ability to define behaviour as rude from people needing service and things aren't as simple

@norbertfricke7116 Месяц назад

You are absolutely right there . I worked 22 years on acute wards , and witnessed countless incidents of staff being abused , verbally and physically , by patients , and not once was any decisive action taken to protect us . Managers , and security , are more interested in being ' politically correct ' , rather than protecting their staff .

@anndowney7348 Месяц назад

@@tomwright9904I totally agree disgusted that these little gods decide who deserves their attention

@anndowney7348 Месяц назад

@@michaeld633 agree and these riots are not special to that to warrant statement about refusal to treat at this time

@jameshorner7816 Месяц назад

I can't believe this is even being discussed, the NHS should have a zero tolerance policy on violence and threatening behaviour.

@garethwonham Месяц назад

There’s a difference between refusing to treat someone who was in a riot, and someone who is putting your own safety at risk.

@stephenkent1102 Месяц назад

They already have this, not sure why Nick is asking ?

@col.hertford9855 Месяц назад

@@stephenkent1102for clicks on RU-vid I expect.

@rogerdodger1790 Месяц назад

They won't if you're indigenous. If they're not they wouldn't dream of not treating them

@datingdave1310 Месяц назад

We read about 'zero tolerance' policy everywhere. The problem is, there is nobody willing to back up or enforce it...!

@DeenM2099 Месяц назад

The audacity to think you can racially abuse nhs staff and still get treatment because they ‘should be grateful that they work in this country’ 😂

@Connor-o9q Месяц назад

But you dont respect British people?

@DeenM2099 Месяц назад

@@Connor-o9q 🤔 not sure what that’s got to do with anything, but I will reply. I respect everyone. Just not these rioters

@Connor-o9q Месяц назад

@@DeenM2099 because You demand that we respect you,them days are over,MDL carrying weapons?! Very uncivilized!

@devianadkar7969 Месяц назад

@@Connor-o9q respect is earned, not a given.

@DeenM2099 Месяц назад

@@Connor-o9q I have no idea what you’re talking about. You come across like a far right extremist and the police ought to look into you

@justhannah3960 Месяц назад

All the callers seem to be missing the point: if the doctors and nurses are being physically attacked, they can turn them away. And they should.

@elainecole3698 Месяц назад

Would that cover drug users or someone with mental illness?

@dd-du9bz Месяц назад

that's a completely different situation that's not related to the question and of course they will dismiss any veral or physically aggressive patients but that does not mean they shouldn't get treated for their illness

@happyapple4269 Месяц назад

they do.

@beepositiveforever971 Месяц назад

Oh, are they actually getting physically attacked.. ? And, if yes then please pint me to the article, as I've looked & can't find any.

@RomanHistoryFan476AD Месяц назад

Do they refuse to treat criminals when they're brought in? Or terror suspects?

@galaceefunky Месяц назад

imagine what would happen if there was a national strike of black and minority workers...

@Dellboy56 Месяц назад

The rioters should get first aid from within a prison.

@marklay5165 Месяц назад

💯

@kr902 Месяц назад

@Dellboy56 😂👏🏼

@elijahheyes9061 Месяц назад

💯

@KoshVorlon-xb3wq Месяц назад

@Mark-Varley4051 If they actually pay taxes

@whatwentwrong4599 Месяц назад

@Mark-Varley4051 Not really. It's a tax not a service. I haven't been ill in 25 years because I eat well, don't drink, don't smoke and regularly exercise. Where is my refund? Mug, think before typing next time.

@aaabbb-ld2rm Месяц назад

That man who was attacked in the Birmingham pup has been barred from the pub, he goaded those Asian lads using racial language that’s why they attacked him.

@flower12878 Месяц назад

Mate are you for real it was the owner of the pub telling the isis mob to go away and because he sells alcohol and its haram they attacked him get your facts right before you open your mouth

@deedansir 28 дней назад

@@flower12878to much tv 😂

@flower12878 28 дней назад

@@deedansir exactly pal I know what you mean

@Catgirl22002 Месяц назад

If they’re going to be attacked for their race, of course they should turn them away.

@jackhewitt600 Месяц назад

What about gender, religion or politics views. Should a Muslim or Hindu dotor be able to not treat a Christian/ Jewish patient?

@coryborg Месяц назад

@@gpw203okay just for fun mind I ask which car it was?

@jackhewitt600 Месяц назад

@@gpw203 Sad to hear but everyone is entitled to treatment regardless of their crimes or view's.

@gordonstrong5232 Месяц назад

@@jackhewitt600 False equivalence.

@abegarfield7031 Месяц назад

@@jackhewitt600 What are you babbling about?

@user-wv3tr7vo1y Месяц назад

Firstly, nurses don’t swear or take a Hippocratic oath. The woman caller is clearly not a nurse despite her misleading. I was a nurse and wouldn’t refuse treatment to anyone but there’s limits. If individuals insist on insulting and threatening staff, they should be dealt with in some way. The NHS will not turn people away for their perceived political leanings of potential patients. Go to A&E on a Saturday night and see what NHS staff put up with.

@graemebuchan8142 Месяц назад

Thanks 👍

@John-nu1vp Месяц назад

Thanks I was just thinking was I off the day we swore oaths 🤣 The actual hypocratic oath contains a promise not to cut so if it was taken we'd have no surgeons

@user-wv3tr7vo1y Месяц назад

@@John-nu1vp what nonsense some of those callers were spouting. Implying that these thugs are somehow injured serviceman or freedom fighters or something. Pathetic!

@paxundpeace9970 Месяц назад

While to some degree nurses have to commit to it too. Still if doctors or nurses feel not safe or very unpleasent about treating you they can deny treatment particularly with the patient or people are abusive. In addition most of the injuries might not be an emergency.

@tayibahussain Месяц назад

True. My friend is a nurse also black she has had many radical abuse and even physically assaulted but a white nurse will be located to treat the people. I have heard some crazy stories from here of dementia patients and the era they think they are in and the vile things they spew not to mention the strength they have in assaulting her.

@danielle4295 Месяц назад

Nobody should be refused any care but if you’re being threatened or abused you have a right to refuse service

@nazb1982 Месяц назад

Why would these people want to be treated by someone they hate and should be sent packing?

@coreyander286 Месяц назад

Because they don't want to die or become permanently injured?

@d.d.4306 Месяц назад

Because they pay health insurance! Because they pay taxes! Because they are the citizens of this country! Because the law in this country says everyone has to have an access to the health care! Because the doctors take the Hippocratic Oath which obliges them to treat everyone without exceptions and whatever happens! Not enough arguments? So Google more to enlighten your narrow minded brain and educate yourself!!!

@ashwilliams4959 Месяц назад

Change that b to an i.. People on opposite sides of wars regularly treat injuries to the opposition 🤦‍♂️

@patchoulihead2139 Месяц назад

@@ashwilliams4959it doesn't apply unless you are planning to abuse the person treating you ...if you do that then clearly they are unable to treat you...stop with the dumb arguments

@ashwilliams4959 Месяц назад

@@patchoulihead2139 I'm making dumb comments? Actually read what I've said rather than making up your own ideas of what I said. Where did I say anything about abuse? Nowhere. I'll repeat it simply for you with an example. 2 opposite armies regularly treat the opposition in war. For example german soldiers were treated by British and American medics and British and American soldiers treated by German medics.

@trelon5 Месяц назад

We treat criminals and thugs all the time. But that’s for life threatening treatment. If a GP surgery is scared then rightfully so they should close early and no home visits. Blame the rioters.

@NA-tv9os Месяц назад

@@gpw203 as per usual, deflecting the blame

@wilhelm4321 Месяц назад

YOU ARE GOING TO PRISON@@gpw203

@Steve_Coates Месяц назад

@@gpw203 So you are blaming immigrants for violent thugs, looter and arsonists, did you join in?

@claretblue2509 Месяц назад

@@Steve_CoatesI think ultimately the government is to blame.

@dianecameron137 Месяц назад

agrre with that if they feel at threat of riots then thats ok they dont deserve to be under attack that way because it could also put others waiting at risk they should be protected if direct threats made

@Samuel.U Месяц назад

The last study they did on the demographics for British doctors-in 2021-showed that 33% of junior doctors were of Asian descent, despite them only making 8.6% of the whole UKs population. These people contribute so much to society and for them to be getting abused is shameful!

@jackhewitt600 Месяц назад

That is sad as a white African i speak from suffering horrific abuse from some demographics but as someone in the emergency services it come with the job and you just have to deal with it.

@voodoochile333 Месяц назад

Are they illegal? See the Labour trick of conflating illegal with legal ain't working.

@Samuel.U Месяц назад

@@voodoochile333 The only conflating that's happening is anyone who's none white-even if they're British born-being tarnished as illegals.

@Samuel.U Месяц назад

@@jackhewitt600 That's very unfortunate, anyone who's helping save peoples lives should be given the utmost respect🙏

@Samuel.U Месяц назад

@@voodoochile333 The only conflating that's happening is the tarnishing of none white Brits as illegal immigrants

@adrianhjordan1981 Месяц назад

This is not a new policy. The NHS has long had a policy whereby we are allowed to refuse to treat people who are abusive towards us. We do not get paid enough to have to accept being abused.

@MrGrifft Месяц назад

Well yeah... I've seen people, including grannies, being escorted from A&E in handcuffs for abusing the staff. I have no tolerance for that carry on and neither should they.

@choudhryshafique7418 Месяц назад

100% agreed these rascists should be refused for care❤🇬🇧❤️

@mkirwan7165 Месяц назад

Why should they not be treated,

@toriesout8692 Месяц назад

@@mkirwan7165 because you cannot attack someone and demand care by the person you’ve attacked.

@ethanpratt330 Месяц назад

@@mkirwan7165if there's one group of people above all you don't do that to, it's those who may potentially save your life

@mkirwan7165 Месяц назад

@@toriesout8692 your opinion

@charliecatesby3346 Месяц назад

That hasn't happened !! This is a nothing story stoked up by a Labour MP that want's to establish the utter evil and otherness of these people for political reasons. In reality there are very few protesters/rioters that needed medical treatment and very few Police officers for that matter (Police officers record an officer injured down to the most minor bruise). Don't worry next week you'll be attacking Wes Streeting for supporting Israel and realise that people throwing stones aren't evil.

@pplesandoranges Месяц назад

The safety of NHS workers is paramount.

@stevejam767 Месяц назад

No, the safety of patients is paramount.

@TheTwinn Месяц назад

@@stevejam767 It's actually the other way round. You're taught, as any medical personnel, that you should never endanger yourself to help a patient. If you get injured then that's one less person in the work force and if you didn't follow polices then you're not covered. Obviously if the patient is risk assessed and it's known that there is a danger to working with them, such as dementia or learning difficulties patients, then you'll be provided the needed training to make sure treatment is as safe as possible for both staff and patient. Of course in emergencies this rule goes out the window for 99% of health workers and we put ourselves in danger to help the patients we care for and we often face disciplinaries because of this. You'll often find health workers care a lot more for their patients safety then their own to the entire systems detriment, but that's just what caring for people does to you.

@stevejam767 Месяц назад

@@TheTwinnThat just sounds like bureaucracy to me, as a principle, patient care should always come first. On the other hand, I guess that would go some way to explaining, Harold Shipman, Lucy Letby, the Stafford Hospital Scandal, NHS Blood Scandal, discharging patients to care homes without testing them for COVID-19 and the thousands and thousands of NHS staff who refused the COVID Jab while the rest of us had to get it.

@TheTwinn Месяц назад

@@stevejam767 Have you never heard the saying you can't look after someone until you look after yourself? If, by principle, patient care came above staff safety, you would end up with a lot of dead staff and even more dead patients. I don't see what Shipman, Letby and the myriad of scandals has to do with safety priority, honestly don't know why those were brought up? Literally not a single person in the UK had to get the covid jab. There might have been consequences for choosing not to, but no one was strapped to a chair and forced.

@pplesandoranges Месяц назад

@@stevejam767 medical intervention is dependent on consent. If you're violent towards medical staff, clearly you don't want medical assistance.

@Theresebonath6077 Месяц назад

Absolutely if they want to fight they can take care of themselwes

@Kevhuman Месяц назад

Give them a field dressing , if they are patriots let them act like soldiers

@Connor-o9q Месяц назад

We are fighting because we have had enough!-dont u understand

@rayvon6386 Месяц назад

@@Connor-o9q had enough of what GONZALEZ?

@mademoiselledebaker8524 Месяц назад

Of what, being a loser or being entitled?

@Theresebonath6077 Месяц назад

@@gpw203 No i dont have ppl in my life that does things like this

@toriesout8692 Месяц назад

Yes, absolutely should be turned away. Your safety is paramount and shouldn’t ever be put at risk of abuse, be it mental, physical or emotional, only for doing your job as a healthcare professional. It’s standard practice that many businesses do not accept or tolerate abuse of their staff.

@Mr.Coffee576 Месяц назад

If its between a hard working immigrant and an unemployed far right football hooligan, and if the NHS resources are extremely scarce, then prioritise it to the immigrant, because they are the productive members of society.

@thf3038 Месяц назад

Very cherry picked scenario you've selected there

@jamespaul6315 Месяц назад

@@thf3038isnt that what the people blaming all immigrants do? Chose an example of why all are bad?

@gordonstrong5232 Месяц назад

@@thf3038 Kind of like declaring war on all immigrants because of the actions of a tiny minority.

@thf3038 Месяц назад

@@jamespaul6315 sometimes yes and that's wrong too.

@TheAArmstrong Месяц назад

@@jamespaul6315 It’s okay if they apply stereotypes to people they don’t like. They can’t be prejudice on the merit of being left wing.

@user-lh9ei6he1h Месяц назад

The right wing have always said criminals should have it hard. It appears it shouldn't apply to them. Reminds me of the joke: What do you call a Socialist? Answer: A conservative who's just been arrested.

@carolewynn9407 Месяц назад

Right wing ??? Such tired rhetoric.

@mariatheresavonhabsburg Месяц назад

@@carolewynn9407 Rhetorics can't be tired, but you seem to be.

@carolewynn9407 Месяц назад

@@mariatheresavonhabsburg Hilarious 😊 Actually you're wrong, there is such a thing as rhetorical exhaustion. ( when rhetorical material is actively and repeatedly circulated to prevent new discourse ).

@admiralrooster Месяц назад

@@carolewynn9407so to be clear... You think that people who declare themselves as right wing don't hold this opinion?

@babymonalisa Месяц назад

😂🤣😂

@MedievalFolkDance Месяц назад

Yes. They can go private. If they voted Reform, thats in fact what they voted for - An insurance based medical system. They do have insurance, right?

@Connor-o9q Месяц назад

Nothing wrong with private,paying 20 or 100pound to see Doctor is just A different way of paying into the system

@stonale736 Месяц назад

@@Connor-o9q and you thing the majority of these people can afford that??? Everybody is getting rotten teeth because they cannot get a simple dentist on NHS, it's GP they can afford?????

@carolewynn9407 Месяц назад

What has voting Reform got to do with this ? Or are you following the media's rhetoric that they're all "right wing thugs"

@Hiberno_sperg Месяц назад

Private medical in the Republic of Ireland starts at around 60 euro per month and fully comp coverage an adult 2 kids is around 180. I pay 230 a month National insurance in the North so spare my your NHS worship. It's an absolute joke.

@carolewynn9407 Месяц назад

@@MedievalFolkDance Completely misinformed.

@JamesT65 Месяц назад

I am married to a Filipina, and I find this disgraceful; they are quiet hard working, decent people. The idiots are just attacking anyone. If anyone gets violent whilst being treated then retract the treatment.

@bonniewatson178 Месяц назад

Here in the USA if a patient refuses treatment from a black doctor or nurse you document and keep it moving, that’s their choice.

@user-qx1bw5df7k Месяц назад

You're paying privately. If a UK patient wants that privilege they need to pay. You pay for privelege, not cherry pick a service provided for free.

@Nomoreanons Месяц назад

I understand that racism is normalised in the US - but how will anything change if that sort of behaviour is tolerated? In the UK, you can ask for an alternative doctor but this is about not treating people who abuse staff. That can't be tolerated in my opinion.

@BurnCKC Месяц назад

In the USA you can also racially abuse someone without consequence...

@bonniewatson178 Месяц назад

@@Nomoreanons what you don’t understand is if you choose to be in pain or death, nobody gives a F, let your racism cost your life or health we don’t care!

@Adam-rp6vf Месяц назад

This isn't America, we provide free healthcare

@surajribas143 Месяц назад

Healthcare professionals sees everyone as patients not as black, brown, pink or whatever color they are....

@debrabrower3864 Месяц назад

No one is color blind. There is nothing wrong with seeing differences. The problem is judging the differences.

@surajribas143 Месяц назад

@@debrabrower3864 wat difference?

@Dischordian Месяц назад

IF THEY FEEL THEY ARE IN DANGER THEY SHOULD OF COURSE PROTECT THEMSELVES.

@Putnamsmif Месяц назад

Yes we should. NHS staff need way more protection than what we get now. We are abused verbally and physically on a daily basis, and are told by our employers and by our governing bodies that they will protect us. They don't. I have witnessed a patient verbally abuse a member of staff in a dialysis unit that I worked in approached by the manager and asked how we can make his experience in the NHS better, and that's a tame example compared to what some NHS workers are subjected to. It's an abject disgrace and NHS management, the government, and professional bodies are NOT protecting staff.

@dianecameron137 Месяц назад

but it is ironic that the ones these thugs are rioting against are our doctors or future doctors they do not see that it is immigration that props up so many of the much needed services care homes home care all kinds of work the people that are in the hotels they were not the ones on the streets rioting its just not right all this violence it solves nothing but just adds misery

@yvonnelee3880 Месяц назад

What? So they are professional workers and every ordinary person Tom and Heidi get every day for their job of Catering, Shop Assistant, Delivering Goods, Plumbers and Electricians without Protection.. Just fear mongering..

@yvonnelee3880 Месяц назад

You have Security Staff at Hospitals.

@harrybacon419 Месяц назад

Should we turn them away? Yes. I’m amazed we need 15 minutes to debate this

@whitehorsemilitia Месяц назад

If they're taxpayers, they are entitled to the service, otherwise they should stop paying taxes if they're being denied the services they pay into.

@harrybacon419 Месяц назад

@@whitehorsemilitia they aren’t entitled to abuse people trying to treat them

@whitehorsemilitia Месяц назад

@harrybacon419 so we should have a Two-Tier System? Only those whose views align with your own are allowed free health care but those who disagree should just get stuffed?

@harrybacon419 Месяц назад

@@whitehorsemilitia you are seriously advocating that you should be able to abuse the staff treating you?

@whitehorsemilitia Месяц назад

@harrybacon419 I'm saying if the person who needs treatment refuses service, then don't provide them the service. I don't think abuse is justified but at same time, denying a taxpayer their access I wrong either. First thing is what type of abuse are we referring to? If it is physical abuse, then they should be arrested and charged fir assault. Verbal abuse means nothing to me because it's words. Words have no physical power unless you allow it.

@sergeborrelli2489 Месяц назад

Send them to Farage or Tommy to be treated!

@carolewynn9407 Месяц назад

Why ?

@sergeborrelli2489 Месяц назад

@@carolewynn9407 They sent them out there, so let them take care of them.

@deanclarke5111 Месяц назад

@@carolewynn9407 because Farage is their cure

@carolewynn9407 Месяц назад

@@sergeborrelli2489 At least you seem to be aware of your ignorance.

@jeaneastwood8155 Месяц назад

Yer the should why should they get medical help when they hurt and terrorise others

@voicesrilanka1356 Месяц назад

Absolutely, without a DOUBT but before that they should be send to prison for inciting violence

@ChocolateBear239 Месяц назад

If they are obviously bigots but not been abusive they should be treated if they are abusive then jog on

@danielsmith7247 Месяц назад

But they shouldn't be able to pick the race of their doctor/nurse

@marlostanfield582 Месяц назад

I agree they don't deserve healthcare

@Edward-cv2gw Месяц назад

Would that apply to all criminals out of interest? So if a burglar broke his ankle fleeing a scene..would you deny him health care too ?

@ethanpratt330 Месяц назад

@@Edward-cv2gwthere's a difference between criminals like that, and angry reprobates chanting pure hatred who discriminate based on race. Bringing up the comparison between common criminals and these lot is not the discussion that needs to be had.

@grahamwalker5693 Месяц назад

@thatanna23 trouble is abusive behaviour goes both ways seen with my own eyes

@Eagle-eye-pie Месяц назад

@thatanna23absolutely they would, and apologise for the inconvenience.

@carolewynn9407 Месяц назад

Would you treat left wing when they glue themselves to objects ?

@UrbanNomad883 Месяц назад

I'm a support worker in an independent living complex in Hastings. We've recently had to recruit from overseas because no one was applying for the jobs. We've now got staff from Nigeria, Zimbabwe, Kenya and other African countries. We provide all levels of personal care and domestic duties for our residents. Sadly a member of our staff was verbally abused on her way to work yesterday. Part of my work involves supporting residents with dementia. At times I've been racially abused by them. Although upsetting, there's the understanding that this can be part of their progressive illness. However being deliberately racially abused, by people with mental capacity is a totally different matter altogether.

@eddiecalderone Месяц назад

We have had employees from Nigeria, Kenya and Zimbabwe for decades. All three countries are commonwealth states. The majority of those who are here from those countries have residency, citizenship, or work permit.

@jasonhaven7170 Месяц назад

@@eddiecalderone Then what's the problem?

@eddiecalderone Месяц назад

@@jasonhaven7170 I think you’re asking the wrong person. The issues that led to this have nothing to do with employment of workers who are legally entitled to work.

@jasonhaven7170 Месяц назад

@@eddiecalderone Then why are they attacking Filipino nurses?

@eddiecalderone Месяц назад

@@jasonhaven7170 Because they’re idiots. I don’t mean the nurses. However you’ll find out that the nurses were unharmed because the minicab that was taking them to work was attacked. While it is obviously reprehensible and completely unacceptable that a minicab is pelted with bricks, it does not take a lot to grasp that the assault was directed at the minicab and not at the nhs staff.

@liz-qq9kb Месяц назад

Nick adding fuel to the fire again.

@obisan666 Месяц назад

You've completely lost the plot...

@simpso0ns Месяц назад

The fact remains . No matter the abuse , no matter tge racism from a small minority . The nhs staff will continue to provide the best possible care they can and wont reduse treatment to anyone .

@PlaguevonKarma Месяц назад

This isn't new? The "if you abuse NHS staff we hand you to the police" policy has been in place for at least 2 years. When did you last see your NHS GP, Nick?

@JoeMarine Месяц назад

Any frontline service can be refused if the person is abusing staff. That is fairly standard.

@BillyBobJoeSnr Месяц назад

Isn't Brexit Britain brilliant...

@jonathanwilliams4222 Месяц назад

We never got the Brexit we voted for so we'll never know

@BillyBobJoeSnr Месяц назад

@@jonathanwilliams4222 So what Brexit did you vote for? Because I thought you all knew what you were voting for...

@maalinb6466 Месяц назад

He wanted a brilliant BrExit, where we leave and still keep all the benefits.

@jabbadabbajew6035 Месяц назад

Oh the sweet irony. Remainers said post Brexit that all the immigrants would leave and we’d have no workforce. Ironically, it’s been the exact opposite 🤣🤣

@mariatheresavonhabsburg Месяц назад

@@jabbadabbajew6035 Well, unless you wish to see the economy deteriorate even more, the gaps need to be filled. And this time, it won't be Poles, or EU-workers, it'll be the kind of workers brexiteers love the most.😂🤣

@derektrotter5352 Месяц назад

When half the NHS is built on immigrants, my answer is NO!

@toneh154 Месяц назад

"Rural women bear the brunt of Nigeria’s worsening healthcare crisis Many health centres in rural Nigerian communities lack adequate personnel and equipment." by Taiwo Adebulu - June 10, 2024 Google for it and read it.. Read about primary healthcare centre's with 3 beds and no doctors or nurses..

@toneh154 Месяц назад

NIH Report: PMC10021292 "Between 2008 and 2021, a total of 36,467 Nigerian doctors migrated to the United Kingdom. There was a steady increase from 1,798 that migrated in 2008 to 4,880 in 2021. A larger trend was observed for nurses. Between 2002 and 2021, a total of 60,729 Nigerian nurses had migrated to the United Kingdom. There was a steady increase from 1,393 nurses that migrated in 2002, to 5,543 in 2021" It's cheaper to import than to train, it's cheaper to import than to incentivise.. And so the Nigerians pay for the training and then pay the ultimate price of economic migration.

@toneh154 Месяц назад

I will repost again.. as RU-vid for some reason likes to delete comments: "Rural women bear the brunt of Nigeria’s worsening healthcare crisis. Many health centres in rural Nigerian communities lack adequate personnel and equipment." by Taiwo Adebulu - June 10, 2024 Google for it and read it.. Read about primary healthcare centre's with 3 beds and no doctors or nurses..

@toneh154 Месяц назад

My comments keep getting deleted.. If you have email notifications of youtube replies on, then you can read what I posted in emails and I'll let you muse over why that should be deleted repeatedly.

@dejkirkby1 Месяц назад

The brass neck of Nick Ferrari to be polite and empathetic to the first caller when he has been at the forefront of platforming the people and rhetoric that led to the riots. Shame on him.

@jabbadabbajew6035 Месяц назад

We’ve seen this before haven’t we. Remember the don’t treat anyone who isn’t vaccinated narrative. C’mon your propaganda needs to be better than this……

@lordsway7190 Месяц назад

About time this is not up for discussion racism should be in the dustbin of history

@voicesrilanka1356 Месяц назад

King has to say something because HE IS THE KING OF THIS COUNTRY and HE CANT ALLOWED TO HAVE DIVISION IN HIS COUNTRY

@tommartin115 Месяц назад

They get to choose who they treat? So much for their hipocratic oath then. Even our armed forces treat the injured enemy.

@EdwardLindon Месяц назад

"People who are abusing NHS staff..."

@10000years Месяц назад

doctors in an Israeli hospital had signed a memo not to treat Gazans who were arrested by the IDF a few months ago

@pandora8478 Месяц назад

I’ve MS, and often go to hospital. After Brexit, all the European nurses and physios left, and were replaced by Filipinos and Indians as there aren’t enough in the UK. Now these people are being physically attacked.

@michaelhuggins8513 Месяц назад

The NHS is there to help people in need and not to judge

@Squarepeg57 Месяц назад

And not to be abused or threatened.

@paulhewitt6614 Месяц назад

If I was a foreign Doctor or nurse I wouldn't treat any of them.

@Connor-o9q Месяц назад

Would you treat the South asians carry weapons!!!!!!!!!

@markrogers7802 Месяц назад

You have to treat them it’s part of the oath doctors swear

@paxundpeace9970 Месяц назад

Have to disagree you are not a trained doctor but them they have right to be treated until. They put staff or other patients in danger.

@paulhewitt6614 Месяц назад

@@Connor-o9qIf you're against immigration then you wouldn't want a foreign doctor or nurse treating you. Would you?

@Connor-o9q Месяц назад

@@paulhewitt6614 of course i would! Strange how every other non Westeren non European country has very strict immigration control,Do u hate your one and only country that much!!!!!

@DaKiffster Месяц назад

What kind of question is this?! NHS should treat anyone and EVERYONE that needs it! Shame on this media

@user-vv7lp9nn6y Месяц назад

@DaKiffster yes but, if the patient I'd being abusive or threatening to a member of staff, they should be referred to someone else or sent home if not life-threatening. The NHS already have a zero tolerance policy towards such people and so they should

@user-ji3jy5wg4v Месяц назад

Yes but not if the doctor or nurse is racially abused and threatened at the end of the day this is a service like any other service for example if I don't behave in a bank or any other civil service building I should get kicked out or keep calm to get treatment

@debrabrower3864 Месяц назад

No one should be forced to work in unsafe conditions.

@winstonsmith3690 Месяц назад

Nick is in favour of discrimination.

@TaharaLocc Месяц назад

I suggest that all immigrant workers walk off from their work places for 1 week and give the country back to these people. NHS, care homes, restaurants, buses, tubes, trains, airports, taxis, ambulances, supermarkets, petrol pumps, car garages, takeaways, etc. will just stop working! Maybe they will then realise why this country needs immigrants!

@elainecole3698 Месяц назад

Waiting time for an ambulance is an all time high (6 hours) that’s what I call abusing the public!

@giovannisoave9634 Месяц назад

Well the far right have no respect for all lives, so why should the NHS help them?

@Squarepeg57 Месяц назад

No-one is saying that people with opposing views shouldn’t be treated. They’re saying you don’t have to provide care to people being threatening and abusive.

@dj_notnice Месяц назад

An Asian Doctor was attacked walking in to his surgery today here in Sheffield. An absolute sickening act by a gang of men.

@michaelkennedy2790 Месяц назад

Again Nick Ferrari pitching tge comment in a negative way! The stance of any hospital etc is that ANYONE who abuses staff will be ejected and charged!

@kevinmacintyre4003 Месяц назад

Just to be clear if a patient says "get away from me you ****** *****", if they are competent then you cannot treat them. Patients being abusive to staff is a health and safety issue and there probably are policies for keeping the staff safe.

@joachimAl Месяц назад

Junior Doctors deserved their pay rise then Nick.... ❤️🇬🇧

@Edward-cv2gw Месяц назад

Yh take from poor pensioners and give to middle class doctors. You know all about a fair and equal society don't you.

@Kevhuman Месяц назад

@@Edward-cv2gwpoor pensioners ? It's going to be means tested. Only the rich pensioners will lose out. You think we should pay a millionaires winter fuel bill ?

@Edward-cv2gw Месяц назад

@Kevhuman they're not rich. I think what is it below 12.5k per year theyll get it ? So you're telling me they're rich on 13 k a year ?

@rayvon6386 Месяц назад

@@Edward-cv2gw If there was a pay rise for doctors it wouldn't need to be taken from pensioners? Respectfully, where do you get this information from?

@thahiraf7640 Месяц назад

@@rayvon6386may be from some rich bloke .. who doesn't want to pay tax

@gilliancummings6215 Месяц назад

As a nurse there is no selection prosess

@margaretpitts5462 Месяц назад

They don’t do home visits. I was a nurse and we treated all sorts of people without fear or favour

@chimpydasilva Месяц назад

they have allways been able to refuse in they deem it to be unsafe

@LoVheissu Месяц назад

Why so dismissive of the the caller who thinks the monarchy should speak out? "The monarchy shouldn't get involved in politics" so the king shouldn't come out and condemn the obvious acts of domestic terrorism plaguing the country? Sorry but what a pathetic position to take - his silence speaks volumes

@TheAArmstrong Месяц назад

If we’re talking turning them away for being aggressive and abusive, then yes, we already do that. If we’re talking about turning them away simply for being part of the riots, then obviously no. NHS staff don’t get to choose treatment for people based on ideology or political affiliation.

@Kevhuman Месяц назад

British medics treat enemy soldiers because they hope that the enemy will treat british soldiers. I dont know of any far right Doctors. Sure there are probs a few.

@stevedavis2541 Месяц назад

The NHS does not tolerate violence and threatening behaviour and has done so for years.

@markeastlack4180 Месяц назад

Y'all don't even have the right question the stupidity on this show is staggering The question is does staff have to treat someone who is berating them or trying to attack them. The answer is absolutely not

@dym6464 Месяц назад

It’s part of hospital policy

@geoffbirchall7552 Месяц назад

Same rhetoric about the unvaxed? 🤔

@lindaajide2115 Месяц назад

Yes the should be turned away, no one should feel unsafe at work

@gavhenrad Месяц назад

Sorry can you imagine a white NHS worker refusing to treat BLM? No..

@EdwardLindon Месяц назад

What do you imagine BLM stands for, you clever boy?

@56NeilWatson Месяц назад

Maybe Fartage and Musk can pay for their private health

@JHJ-g7g Месяц назад

This train of thought is on a very dangerous path. Every human being should be entitled to health care. It is a very basic human right, and if we manage to lose this, then we have a bigger problem on our hands than these victims of agendas. They are sick! They are in need of mental health (medical support) more than most of us right now!

@samuelshaw3192 Месяц назад

Health is a human right. Healthcare is not.

@ENTERJAYKASHI Месяц назад

You don't know the UK no longer believes in humans right, while at least the Tories don't

@JHJ-g7g Месяц назад

@samuelshaw3192 Access to healthcare is.

@samuelshaw3192 Месяц назад

@@JHJ-g7g equality is not a human right, nor is equity. In the case of health, you would look at articles 2-5 of the human rights act which are your personal rights. If you were to say universal healthcare is a right, then that is naturally infringing article 4 (slavery and forced labour) because that would be compelling others to provide said healthcare. And article 5 protects everyone’s liberty and freedom.

@EdwardLindon Месяц назад

What overwrought nonsense. A little reading comprehension resolves the difficulty. "People who are abusing NHS staff..."

@MyMargo111 Месяц назад

Carry out home visits haven’t done that where I live for years..And as for Tommy Robinson he speaks more truth than any of the politicians.

@bmxney3143 Месяц назад

If you’re a troglodyte, then yeah he speaks the truth

@TheTwinn Месяц назад

District nurses still exist. But there are only around 4000 of them covering the entire country. So that's 1 nurse for every 14,000 people. So unless you are in extremely high need you won't see one, they're like gold dust.

@VeronicaERioMaria Месяц назад

the government really thinks we're idiots 😅 rate of unemployment is becoming inconducive.it's obvious we are headed for hyperinflation, unfortunately having a job doesn’t seem to guarantee total financial stability rather having multiple streams of income that doesn't depend on the government would be a great decision,*

@FredricksonMuhammadUsman Месяц назад

This 2024 I no longer depend on the government or salary to survive. "Of course, trading is a safer way to earn more money now because I have earned up to 352,000 thousand US dollars recently. Work will only pay your bills, business will make you earn." You are rich, but trade makes and keeps you rich, the future is inevitable...

@MariaRosaGuerra-l5y Месяц назад

I don't really blame people who panic. Lack of information can be a big hurdle. I've been making more than $21k passively by just going into crypto investment , and I don't have to do much work. Inflation or no inflation, my finances remain secure. So I really don't blame people who panic

@nazirkazi2588 Месяц назад

The great and unaccountable Nick Farage, adding yet more fuel to the fire under the pretence of journalism.

@Kevhuman Месяц назад

More doctors for the rest of us

@BTAG75 Месяц назад

How can he possibly compare treating someone who supports a different football team to someone who is racially abusing you?? Talk about glib! Absolutely ridiculous.

@gerrymclean-mh2dq Месяц назад

Nick you are such a grifter I remember when you pushed the covid jab and wanted people excluded from society if they did not comply

@sareedoahmed1751 29 дней назад

There is hippocratric oath they take. To help the sick in best of abilities.

@razwanasattar9156 Месяц назад

The problem is people like Nick Ferrari who pick one incident with one person against violence against muslim community all over the country. Sick !!!

@neilshort5431 Месяц назад

I cant believe this nonsense. Nick Ferrari is just helping stir up the hate. We’re not talking about treating or not treating people based on their views. We’re talking about a person walking into a GP, hurling abuse at them, and then the GP deciding not to treat them because of the abuse they’re receiving. 100% the GP should have that right, regardless of creed, colour, religion or world views. Ridiculous conversation

@MrWhitmen1981 Месяц назад

Defund the NHS if they won’t treat citizens. Two tier healthcare.

@Squarepeg57 Месяц назад

Be careful what you wish for.

@MrWhitmen1981 Месяц назад

@@Squarepeg57I want the NHS defunded. It’s socialism. America land of the free, beacon on the hill.

@JamieZero7 Месяц назад

Well the NHS should lose their tax payers money by not treating and looking after people. Destroy the tax robbing NHS.

@Asegai666 Месяц назад

The NHS doesnt serve anyone anyway

@dwaynewrighton8547 Месяц назад

Nhs already has a zero tolerance to abuse policy Why is this being discussed?

@GG-hu9dn Месяц назад

You can't shame the shameless?!

@grahamcoulter2610 Месяц назад

Thats fine, but they need their wages cut and the money given back to the tax payers. Its not their money its ours.

@sammydingdong4540 Месяц назад

We get racial abuse every hour in the day in the psychiatric unit I work in ,It is an unfortunate part of the job I hate it but how you would stop it would be difficult ,and stopping patients smoking by managers who never and will never work on a ward does not help.

@Isclachau Месяц назад

🤣🤣🤣Considering there is no NHS due to immigration getting any service of any kind for anyone would be a start.

@sitrombone Месяц назад

The NHS would collapse without the immigrants who work for it.

@danchokonstantinov6735 Месяц назад

NO to digitalization, NO to medicinal divisions !

@questioneverything751 Месяц назад

What is the use of these monarchs then ? Why on earth do you have a so called King Britain ? What on earth does he do

@jjtinkler97 Месяц назад

Very dishonest of Ferrari to misrepresent what Streeting said. Words have consequences.

@CarlosTehJackal Месяц назад

Yes, the NHS should treat them. As disgusting as their views and behaviour are, NHS staff have a duty of care to everyone.

@dym6464 Месяц назад

If Muslim GPs feel it’s not safe to work in this environment their concerns should be taken seriously, can’t force someone to unsafe working conditions!

@mkirwan7165 Месяц назад

@@dym6464Wow what a joke, (afraid )

@KoshVorlon-xb3wq Месяц назад

@mkirwan7165 Yes you are. You don't know what they might have been through previously. Ever heard of PTSD? Joker!

@mkirwan7165 Месяц назад

@@KoshVorlon-xb3wq poor Dr, ,😭😭

@alundavies1016 Месяц назад

I think that if abuse is documented, and the patient refuses to stop (and the language is not due to some form of illness, dementia etc.) then the patient should be kicked out. No one should have to put up with that, and it is upsetting to other people in need.

@Sambo890 Месяц назад

Am scared to go to my doctor who is muslim

@mkirwan7165 Месяц назад

Me to ,

@temptemp4174 Месяц назад

Alright at least there will be less on the waiting list, thank you👍

@NazmulIslam-pr2gz Месяц назад

It is advisable to maintain your distance, even in dire circumstances. I am certain that you would seek assistance from Muslim healthcare professionals in such a situation.

@upasna1111 Месяц назад

I totally agree with the callers point that Nick was completely dismissing! These rioters are calling on the King in their chants, they are doing this in his name… he absolutely has a responsibility to address this!

@TheJase8566 Месяц назад

The NHS should treat everyone, even people I dislike. Abusing is different