Should Stock Nerf Wars Still Exist? 

I ran "Below 100fps" games at my local library for the kids and we had a Blast! I'd have 2 Squad members as Team Captains to help keep the games going, as well as some Free Shoot time. We would end with a contest to see who could collect the most darts & win a prize from the Library.

My thoughts: Every club or event should put a stock class battle in their games. It makes it more interesting being shot at by a stock maverick than a singled titan. Plus, if kids wanted to play, they would feel more safe. But a mix of modded and stock could create issues. When I went to wars back in 2018, I went to a pay-to-play arena where it was stock and modded. It was a little unfair because rival dominated the field because it was designed around it. I would hear when I left "mommy, can I get one that shoots the yellow balls?" It was kind of sad hearing that they weren't having a great time because of their blaster. Nerf to me is a place we're nerds have fun with children's toys because they can. Nice video jang!

I LOVE stock games! The blasters performing poorly is part of the charm. Running circles around someone and both of you are just missing missing missing is hilarious and so much fun. It also gives you the opportunity to pull out blasters you normally wouldn't use.

I have and use modded blasters and play in high fps events. But the truth is 90% of the events I've played at and most of my favorite ones are technically stock events. Especially as my two boys get to take part as well (though the oldest is now old enough for modded events). The truth is that its more about the games than the blasters. A good, well run event with an experienced game organiser can be fun even with hopeless blasters - sometimes more so. Stock is where new players come in - its the lifeblood of the hobby and higher powered stuff should build off it, not shun it.

This is a fun video format. I think it's important to keep these conversations going in the hobby ^_^

The group I volunteer for, Project My Neighborhood, loves hosting monthly stock events. Before the plague happened, that is.

I think stock events are great for people wanting to get into Nerf.

Where I live (Finland), stock wars is what we go by, simply because of a very small market. NERF-wars aren't that common, in fact I'm one of the driving forces to get some form of NERF-wars with a bit more competitive feel to them. So far, because of the current situation in the world, I've managed to have one war and it was all stock blasters. Still extremely fun but one can always improve, right? I've been talking to some of the toy stores here and while they do appreciate what I'm trying to do, they don't really see any market for blasters that goes above 70-90 fps, seeing as most foamflinging blasters are marketed for kids. And no, Rival isn't really a thing in toy stores here, sad but true. And most adults don't see the fun in it, since there's a bigger community for airsoft and paintball here. I am trying to expand my own blaster collection and with that influence others to do the same but it's a slow process, again with the world being in the state that it is right now.

Absolutely yes. We had this discussion on Britnerf a while ago and we worked out that games that run at 100fps or less are by far the most highly attended games in the UK and they are definitely gateway into the hobby. If we want our hobby to grow and the player base to grow we need to support these games. Seasoned hobby players will always have the higher FPS games to use all our toys we've spent time and money on but we need to keep the new players coming in and as you say some of the stock games are the most fun 😄

Here in the UK, many Universities have "Assassin Societies" that incorporate blasters into their games, but few would refer to themselves as "Nerf Societies". It was from there I searched further and discovered Britnerf and the wider Nerf community, and presented the idea of modding to my society to increase the range of gameplay available. But I found that even the most dedicated players didn't tend to end up down the modding route - the game itself is what matters, something fun to do alongside their main time sink; actually getting a degree! The stories of hunting down your target or spectacular "kill" methods were what people remembered, not the kit itself used. - HailFireYork

I think the conversation should move away from stock vs not stock. Fps capped games , that’s the best way to organize games for everyone. Because as you pointed out, aeon pro is stock. It still hits hard enough to make a little kid cry. Rounds with 100 fps soft cap would get the same goal accomplished much more efficiently and allow for modded blasters with low performance to get kids interested into modding. Just my opinions though.

I would love to play more weird gane types with limited options for fun every so often, but the group I'm in is mostly adults with huge amounts of 3d printed/high perfirmance blasters, so we mostly do competetive or larger scale outdoor games.

In the VFBA, we start games at 5:30 and end at 10 PM, but we don't start superstock/modded games until 7- That's because we start off with stock-class games, so parents can bring their gremlins over to play. It also boosts the number of attendees by several times, since not everyone wants to play a superstock-class game or has the gear to participate. Running both gives people options, and there are a couple people who run mods just for stock (such as myself) that are still modified blasters, but they do still shoot stock ammo at stock (70FPS or lower) velocities. If you have a very low FPS limit, it's very interesting to see what modifications people will do if you're pretty much only allowed to minimize and stuff.

Jang how dare you hit us with that old BURN footage- cruel and unusual punishment. There are so many fantastic stock blasters nowadays. Some are from Nerf, a lot are from there competitors, and some are from the community too. I definitely support the idea of lower power games as it's also an easier way to welcome walk-on players of any age.

I live in a country where nerf is a very minor hobby, no competitive blaster war exists. No high performance stock blaster like jet blaster, dart zone pro etc available here. The market is filled with grey trigger nerf blasters and fake nerf blasters (not other brand, but literally fake rip off claiming to be nerf brand, using nerf packaging, but not the original hasbro nerf) Even having a stock nerf war is not that easy. Most of the time when we can have a stock nerf war is due to a nerfer gathering non nerfers and lend them blasters just so we can have a small war. Nevertheless we still love this hobby though

I see much mention of 100 fps caps as opposed to "stock". Considering that Dart Zone has been puting out one new blaster after another that are running 95 to 105 fps out of the box a 100 fps limit is more practical than making It "stock only". The player with a stock Spectrum and DZ waffles is going to wreck an opponent with a stock Stryfe and Elites. Allowing the Stryfe a rewire/re-motor and use Bulldogs or Insutantos in the stock cage would even things up to about 100 fps.

never heard of this channel but i like it

100 fps cap games, so stock can have a chance and I can tinker and use stock motors and get a small performance boost

1000% they should be. They are the quick match of nerf. They are where people who just want a bit of craic and to run stupid meme or gimmick loadouts go. The low power/stock games are what makes nerf different from the likes of airsoft or paintball where everyone is looking for the new competitive edge. If nerf ever goes the same direction those later two go where I'm having to dump 1-2k into a joule creeped, 30+rps, rhopped/maple leafed, 500fps, high cap pellet hose just to play a normal weekend walk on event I'm out.

Yeah! Honestly a stock nerf QuikFlag would also still be as intense, ( a lot of running and strategy to cover the weak performance). If everyone is going to play stock for shits and giggles, its still as enjoyable!

Yes of course. Unless your using a dedicated indoor venue for things like airsoft or paintball, a lot of them don't want things getting damaged. In the UK we have games in verious place and the max limit is 130fps many have 100fps/stock limits. All have a good mix of stock to lightly modded to modded to the limit. With out these games with the lower or stock limit we wouldn't be able to play in some of the awesome venues we have here in the uk.... Also have high fps limits is always a good way to play. Nerf is ment to be fun and you can defo have more fun and be much sillyer at lower limits than higher ones in my opinion.

I love your role in intros! It puts a smile on my face from the start.😆

We run 1Joule (130fps) games in the UK, and we find these games have a good balence for stock and modded stuff. So young/ families can attend our events and enjoy it with a stock blaster. But so can the modders. It also shows begginers what they can do in the hobby and what to expect, so we get alot of reoccurring players who came back to an event with modded gear. Because they have been bitten by the bug.

Yes! Great idea!

Jang Great video. I think stock Nerf battles are fine. Some of us do this with our kids and it is much better to start them in a stock class then to throw them right into super stock games. Thanks for the chat as always great job.

Stock Nerf games are the entryway drug into the hobby. If you want your hobby to continue growing and evolving, then you must foster environments that encourage people to get interested and nurture their curiosities into something more. Of course, this requires people to have enough foresight to be able to think more about the future and not just about themselves...

I like these conversation videos. It's nice to go into the comments and see other people perspectives. Also I realized I didn't follow you on Instagram, how did I manage that!?!

Stock as in absolutely no modifications I personally wouldn't be interested in as it limits a lot of blasters and creativity. Stock as in low fps (100fps or below) absolutely it gives a way for new players to get in but also is an interesting space for modders as you can build certain designs that are less viable at high fps and for the more budget conscious modder these low fps spaces generally require lower costs to tweak blasters or experiment in.

Great video. I love stock nerf because pretty much all my battles have been with my family and all our kids in a house so pretty close quarters stuff and I would say that I don’t think I would enjoy it as much if I was getting shot in the face from 3 feet away at 150fps, let’s be honest kids go for the head. Keep up the great work.

I live in Australia and we have stock nerf wars. I supply the blasters and ammo. And I’m 15 and don’t really have time to mod. We also nerf in my front yard. We play three hit kill and capture the flag

I've not really been to any High-FPS games and most (if not all) the events I've been at have a 100 FPS cap Stock blasters will be here for years. You don't stop selling the little 1.0l engined hatchback just because everyone wants a Ferrari!

I am one of those people who brings mostly stock blasters to 200+ fps wars. And i have just as much fun, if not more then the people with fdl's and caliburns. And i am 44 years old 😉🤘🏻

I used to be a big proponent of stock only events, however with the widespread availability of chronographs in the hobby now, I don't see a reason to run stock only events instead of low-cap events. (sub 100 is a good number). If the point is for new players to be able to pick up a blaster at walmart (say a kronos, villainator, or spectrum, for some good entry options that outperform elite 2.0) You can do that and still allow things like a nailbiter with printed swappable clips, a 6 dart hammershot, or a swarmfire on a stock spring but rewired for rechargeable batteries. The blasters don't hit any harder than stock, but they let new players get a look at things they could do, and show people that modding blasters isn't always about making them hit super hard (A lot of times I hear "I don't want to hurt anybody so I don't mod my blasters.") A stryfe modded to hit 90 fps isn't doing anything different than a spectrum, but it has cool cosmetic kits (go with clear or orange, kids). Maybe someone wants to run a pump-action retaliator with stock internals, or a longshot with nothing upgraded except a 5KG spring. Also, if mods are allowed under a low cap, it prevents clubs from figuring out what exactly is a mod. Is pulling out that stupid rubber dart gate on a stryfe a mod? Is attaching a tri-strike barrel to a recon to shoot megas a mod (I've had a club rule that it is, because it changes the functionality of a blaster). Is adding grip tape to the top of a retaliator slide a mod? Should rival be banned? Should non-nerf be banned? Is a dart zone pro mk2 stock even though it hits hard? You can ignore all this headache if you just say 100 fps cap and let potential players know that most stock blasters on the shelves shoot between 70-100.

Love this, man. It's always good to be reminded nerf is and should be fun.

I like the things that stay somewhat consistent in your videos, like the question titles and rolling in on your chair

My favourite games are 100fps limit which allows light modding to be included but means players with stock blasters aren't out gunned

With this videos release since it seems similar, whatever happened to Tag Talk with Walcom S7?

I personally love the way that Southern Maryland House of Nerf does it. They start their events with stock wars and play several gametypes with stock blasters before switching over to the 150fps modified cap. I don't know how well that system would work with higher fps clubs. The Maryland Nerf Herders is a 12 and up group to begin with and has a 200fps cap. I'd love to find a way to incorporate stock rounds but I'm unsure how to smoothly transition from one to the next in a 12 and up situation.

You absolutely need stock wars/games. One of the great thing about the Nerf hobby is the openness and inclusiveness of it. You need to be able to get start with the £10 blaster you got from ToysRUs. If you need to invest £200 you are not going to get new kids involved. I know the aeon is $25 but most of us can't get them. It's also not fun for kids to get shot with a High FPS blaster so they won't play and won't ever get hooked. Yes as adults we often want 'more power' but theres a lot of fun to be had in low power... I was running a weekend of outdoor games for groups of kids and one set it was raining sooooo hard we had to move inside. It was a small space so we played jolts only. They had an absolute blast. It you reiae the entry bar you become an exclusive club and I don't believe thats what Nerfers want.

The whole concept of "stock blasters" is totally irrelevant with blasters like the AF Pro line, Gameface Prime, etc. FPS limits are a far more useful tool for power limiting than "Stock Only" rules. That being said, low velocity games are awesome, and a great way to get people in the hobby!

We make it a point to have 100fps cap matches dubbed "Family Friendly" events. These events are so much fun, as it allows regular players use all the silly fun blasters they couldn't use in the more competitive matches. (ie - I normally run my Titan rocket launcher in these matches, which is a ton of fun) These matches also allow new players to the hobby to experience events without getting wrecked by highly modded gear.

As fun as it can be to see how fast we can get our foam projectiles to go, and accurately. There is a bit of a challenge readjusting to the lower velocities.

Stock wars should exist. With HVZ for example you can bring a stock Nerf gun and the extremely effective. I agree with you they should not be a main event. Just put stock blasters in hvz

I'm proud of taking out my AR on the firestrike, yes stock wars should still exist

stock "nerf" blasters just suck adventure force blasters that hit 90-100 fps are great indoors ok outdoors modded is another level and i dont want to use stock blasters anymore it doesnt feel right not being able to hit something from 50 feet from a astock blaster

I agree with the whole people think stock blasters are useless and I think it's really easy to get into that mindset especially if you've just built your new cool 150fps blaster. but stock blasters are still plenty useful I've used a stock barrel break at 180fps games and still done alright with it sure you have to try but it works. And that's 30-50fps with 2 shots until a long reload with something like a retaliator would be easy compared to that. That said personally I don't like stock only wars but I'm totally fine with say 100-130fps cap just because that means you can make modifications like maybe have a rapidstrike that doesn't shoot far but shoots really fast or something like that. It means kids can still play just fine but someone who likes to use modified blaster can still fit in.

I would guesstimate that a good 80%-90% of the available games for me are stock level or under 100fps.

My thought that clubs should have stock games because well they are fun. I only have three modded blasters one is currently out of commission, one I have to finish, and I have one working. Also yesterday I had a nerf war with my dad and pulled out a Prometheus I didn’t even know we had I got destroyed but it was so much fun having stock nerf wars with my family.

Love a good stock war now and then! We don’t really do Super Stock cos it’s quite expensive for most of us ‘less you have cash tah burn but in our 8 years of playing, Stock classes have been staple!

Yes. For the kids