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honestly I think teens shouldn't rely on FSD, they should just practice being on the road driving manually whenever they can, so their driving skills can get better.
Honestly i think no human being should drive unsupervised on our roads. There are just too many idiozs around who are always distracted, sexting and overall nuisance. I am lucky that i survived that ordeal. But it was often in a tight spot. Just because no bot kept watch.
@@zmarko totally disagree. The last human going to driving school and paying 5000,-- Dollars for their drivers license is already born. Oh you do not have driving schools? Now we know...
Thanks...used to do it on videos years ago, just decided to add it back to this. Sort of like VH1's pop up video feature back in the 90's if you recall.
My opinion is that kids should learn to drive with their parents without blindspot warnings or any adaptive driving. I don't know when the best time is to start using driver assist and FSD. They might develop a dependency on it before they really understand how to drive but I also hope that all these tools will eventually bring down premiums for teens that use technology to help drive or drive. Insurance is crazy high
They shouldn’t be using it until they have about 10000 hours of driving experience imo. I’m a huge FSD advocate but kids need to learn corner cases as well. If they only plan on having a Tesla w FSD then the point is irrelevant.
I posted this somewhere on X that I can't find. Once FSD in un-supervised Tesla should develop a driving instructor mode. Tie into Grok for voice input/response.
I noticed he waved people to go a couple of times while the car was stopped. I find that very interesting for a couple of reasons. First, in both situations, i would have waved for them to go as well but that also means I assumed the car was waiting for them to go. Because what if I waved but then my car decided to go? We would have had one of those awkward moments of "am I going, are you going." Kinda like, wave for them to go but then I start to go and at the same time they start to go. Then we both stop because we dont know who's going first. But it seems to me, your nephew was confident his car stopped to let the other car go. Thats some crazy osmosis wizardry stuff going on between the driver and fsd lol, but it also means fsd is truly thinking like a human. The 2nd point is should we be waving people to go since we truly don't know if fsd is about to go at the same time we wave? Should we just patiently wait without any hand gestures to see what fsd is truly thinking? Also, what if the other car waves for me to go? Fsd doesnt read hand gestures from other cars (yet, lol). I know the answer is to take over and make the decision yourself but man, will we ever get to that point with fsd going when another person waves for it to go? Wild stuff.
you can literally be sitting in the car and just by sitting in the car you can get a DUI you’re not allowed to be in a car and be intoxicated. It’s against the law.
FSD makes the same mistake every time I get to a particular intersection (which is several times a day) and has done that for months even though I give a report every time after I disengage. The problem is that it needs to turn left at a traffic light and the leftmost lane after the turn is a freeway on-ramp and the through lane is to the right of the on-ramp. It always turns into the on-ramp and I have to disengage. If there’s some sort of learning that is supposed to happen, it hasn’t happened yet.
@ItsKimJava I noticed the car didn't indicate when exiting the roundabout. Is this normal road rules in South Carolina, U.S.A? If indicating is required, then the test run should have resulted in a right turn indicator at the last quarter turn to the exit.
That clip from '18... I remember it! I'm extremely reality, within reason, and the like, and most definitely before whether I 'like' something or not - very rarely 'opinion.' Tesla's are not even recognizing emergency vehicles yet. Reports for unsafe and wrong moves are still being sent. Speed limits are being ignored. Tesla's can't even do things good enough to even think of getting "robotaxi" started. I'm very much against 'losing' the steering wheel and pedals. There are people that actually like to drive or even if they don't necessarily like to they at least want to sometimes. So, should teens use FSD... Best would be not while they have their permit and not until after they no longer need a licensed driver in the passenger seat with them. Otherwise... First learn driving without using FSD. Then also have some time, still with a permit and a licensed driver in the passenger seat, using FSD.
Having your nephew driving/self-driving does make me a bit nervous watching this video. BTW, I didn't notice any accent, being from SC. Maybe he'd relocated from elsewhere. My mom apparently was born in SC (Aiken, I believe). It seemed to me, that dark convertible in the traffic circle shouldn't have pulled out in front of you, but people do that (I've accidentally done it too).
FSD is more of a benefit to elderly people than younger people learning to drive. IMO younger people shouldn’t be able to use FSD until they have extensive experience in different cars over 3 - 4 years.
I don't think that teen drivers should use cruise control, better yet FSD. New drivers need to learn how to control a vehicle in various driving conditions before relinquishing the driving to the car. Also, I don't have enough trust in FSD to suggest it for anyone's children.
How can u supervise something that are yourself not can? It dont matter if u are a Teen/Adult/Elderly if u cant drive u should not use until u can drive...if this goes on we have more and more people on the streets that have no clue how to drive a car. Driving is not just simply follow the Road , It is more to how react in Emergency situations and seeing ahead so that u are already ready for the next situation and dont get suprised. In America it is way too easy get driving License.
kids should never. drive a full automated car they need to learn how to drive for real. Thats why its a good idea to ban any one under the age of 25 from self driving cards.
Kids need to learn how to drive without any software help. Once they mastered that, they can start using FSD. I was impressed with how well FSD actually worked. What caught my attention at the very end was where the guy was near the crosswalk but wasn't intending to cross. He waved and the car moved on. Not sure what the car was interpreting, the hand wave or his backing away from the crosswalk.
I look forward to the day when I can turn over both driving duties _and_ legal responsibility to the manufacturer, and take a nap or watch a movie on my commute. Until then, it's a little questionable to advocate it as a solution for inexperienced or elderly drivers. And, in my opinion, _crazy_ irresponsible to even suggest it for intoxicated drivers. "FSD was on!" is not a viable defense in any jurisdiction, at this point. It's not a safe way to get home when you're still risking arrest, even if it were perfectly safe. Use a DD, get an Uber, call mom, whatever. Don't get behind the wheel.
@@PackaPoonch I don't deny that, and I think it's a wonderful thing. I have 8-y/o twins and my hope is that they never learn to drive. All I'm saying is that so long as the law requires a competent, unimpaired driver behind the wheel, and the law holds that driver liable for whatever that car does, it's really not a good idea to advocate or suggest FSD for incompetent or impaired drivers. They're still on the hook, at this point, if something goes wrong. That could be as simple as a passing cop noticing you stumble to the car; you're in for some life-altering consequences.
Im 17, and I use it on my dad's model y all the time . Should I be using it?. I'm gonna say yes because I pay attention probably more than most people do.
you can literally be sitting in the car and just by sitting in the car you can get a DUI you’re not allowed to be in a car and be intoxicated. It’s against the law.
Personally as a teen myslef, I find myself using it all the time on the highway, especially after a long day of school! Using FSD itself on city streets is more of a party trick IMO and the car is so fun to drive itself! Definatley a cool feature tho and it almost does better than me in unfamiliar confusing places! Way to go TESLA!
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Nice video. Looks like FSD is really coming along. And LOL at the creepy guy at Starbucks. He didn't seem to realize he is part of that crazy world he was talking about.
Love this! Wanting to trade up from my RAV4 hybrid (which I love!!) to model Y exactly for this reason. Our 15 year old got his permit and will start driving in a few months. 😅
mmm.. teslas are the safest cars on the road in regards to collisions ratings, and as the pop ups in this video pointed out, there are parental controls now where it allows u to set the max speed and acceleration limits of the car. old hondas, while i personally have a fondness for, would definitely not be more safer than a tesla.
Boggles my mind that your nephew is now driving! Good Gaia Almighty, time is flying by. Y'know… I think I'd only feel comfortable and confident with FSD if all other cars had it. There are just too many nutcases driving around to hope that it could anticipate every possible scenario. I know that my opinion is undoubtedly unpopular, but… I just don't think consumers should have to pay extra for any safety improvement -and surely FSD is touted as a "safety" feature, right? I mean, do we have to pay extra for 3rd brake lights, seat belts, blind spot alerts, air bags, child seat latches? Well… maybe when you take delivery of your CyberTruck, it will finally have EAP and FSD…? I might be wrong, but suspect you've got another vacation video coming up soon…?
When FSD is fully autonomous, then I'd be okay with it chauffeuring a minor driver. Right now, if the AI has a problem, the inexperienced, youthful driver might not have the wherewithal to intervene effectively, and in an emergency, the supervising driver needs to be able to intervene.
My daughter is 15 and I’ve been teaching her to drive, once a week, since she was 11 here in PA. Since she turned 15 in June, she’s been driving my 2021 Model 3, with me, 3 times a week. I can honestly say, she’s a better driver than the FSD. I don’t know if it’s because my car still relies on the sensors for FSD, but it breaks hard when approaching red lights or stopped vehicles in front of it, then inches forward to a safe distance, making drivers behind me angry for driving that way. It also shifts to the left lane when passing vehicles, but then it stays in the left lane while other cars behind it are trying to pass it and are forced to illegally pass on the right. Other than that, the drive is smooth enough for me to start using it when doing Uber, with minor help from me on the situations explained above.
New drivers need experience behind the wheel. I recommend no self-driving use until 2 years of driving experience. If you get license at 17, then no FSD until 19.
No. It is either you pay the full amount upfront 8k$. And then 0$ per month. And it is for the life of the car. Or you decide to go with the montly subscription which is 99$ a month with 0 upfront. You can stop anytime. And resubscribe etc
Since he's 16 now, maybe let mom know about all the fun teen driving schools hosted on race tracks. Skip Barber has an excellent one at Road Atlanta: "The Skip Barber Driving Academy provides a foundation for safe and proficient driving. Students of this one-day program gain a greater understanding of vehicle dynamics. Knowing how a car will respond in an emergency situation is critical to knowing how to avoid one. During this school you participate in accident-avoidance exercises like panic braking and emergency lane changes. You will also learn how to properly correct a skid, practice slides and recoveries, and introduce yourself to performance driving on the autocross course."
oh my God, you’re teaching him to think it’s OK to put all the pilot in and be drunk he would still get a DUI. You just taught him that it’s OK. He said it out of his mouth. Oh if I can’t get a ride, I could just use auto pilot that is not OK.
Plus, you think it’s OK to drive while tired that’s not cool either
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She's not claiming its okay to DUI or drive while tired. I think what she's saying is that, unfortunately, some people already do this either habitually or a lapse in judgment. Thus, if we know that some people will DUI or fall asleep driving, it'd be better to have a technology in place that can guide them home safely. This isn't much different from the idea of airbags or seatbelts. They're completely unnecessary... so long as you're not crashing or slamming on your brakes. They exist for those rare occasions you DO crash or slam on your breaks.
