Should this student have been kicked out of the UK for her October 7th comments? | LBC debate

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Dana Abuqamar, 19, was filmed at a protest one day after the attack describing how she was “full of joy” and “proud that Palestinian resistance has come to this point.”
The Manchester University law student released a video this week saying that her “words were taken out of context." She said that the Home Office has rescinded her student visa citing reasons of “public safety.”
00:00 - Tom Swarbrick lays out his opinion on the story, trying to understand what this means for future students and their freedom of speech...
04:50 - Caller Holly tells Tom Swarbrick that ‘everyone’ who espouses terrorist views should be kicked out.
08:35 - Caller Stephen is on the fence, as he wonders how far this goes in terms of violating the rights of free speech, and if the UK is becoming more of an authoritarian regime in this regard.
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@JoyfulRoadCar-ou9pi 15 дней назад

Hang on LBC presenter you did not play the full clip . Don’t be a coward and tell your presenters to play her full interview.

@zainzoala1083 15 дней назад

No one surprised . That is what they do , they even label Palestinians Hamas.

@ineedmoreflavour1955 15 дней назад

Explain? Like try to justify this in any way please? I dunno what part of what she said can be justified by saying 'ah but you need to play the whole clip' - so if you aren't a coward, explain?

@Eagle_000 15 дней назад

She spoke for the majority who openly celebrated 10/7 and you know that very well.

@Eagle_000 15 дней назад

@@zainzoala1083 Palestinians themselves proudly say, "we are all Hamas". So spare us the excuses.

@Rosskles 15 дней назад

@@Eagle_000 Like the people who are celebrating the massacre of 13k children?

@kaikai-pb7fh 15 дней назад

😴😴😴 tom is so boring.. get rid.

@DeltaV-sayno2CCP 15 дней назад

Tom Suchaprick.

@MrPiccolop 15 дней назад

So wooden and useless.

@ineedmoreflavour1955 15 дней назад

Translation = I hate people that don't chant free Palestine 24/7 and dare to disagree with me.

@jujutrini8412 13 дней назад

@@ineedmoreflavour1955 You need to look up the definition of the word “boring”. It doesn’t mean hate.

@Hugo97HD 15 дней назад

Tom, your manipulation is gross. I wish they could revoke your "journalist" tittle.

@DeltaV-sayno2CCP 15 дней назад

Tom Suchaprick wishes he was a journo.

@SM-df8fy 14 дней назад

He’s complicit in the propaganda that is leading to the deaths of Palestinians. History will remember him.

@GODOURSALVATION. 13 дней назад

Jihaadi

@sheepsky 15 дней назад

Tom is so out of touch and infuriating to listen to.

@DeltaV-sayno2CCP 15 дней назад

Tom Suchaprick.

@doctorfunkshock 15 дней назад

Yes, that's what the Zionist Broadcasting Company prefer.

@user-dk6pl9lj3e 15 дней назад

Speak for yourself. He's 100% on the money here.

@globalist1990 14 дней назад

And still young. Painful to watch, really.

@TransoceanicOutreach 14 дней назад

Out of touch...how?

@user-dy6mc4iw9v 15 дней назад

First time watching this guy and thanks to him I have unsubscribed.

@PJM273 14 дней назад

Not an airport , mate. No need to announce your departure...

@sharma.1971 11 дней назад

@@PJM273departure to Syria 😂😂

@emmastyles6936 15 дней назад

Shame on LBC for more bias reporting..play the whole clip!!! Absolutely free speech, she freely said it and then needs to suffer the consequences..visa is a privilage and can be withdrawn for any reason, this was a suitable reason if you hear the WHOLE CLIP!!!!!

@generaljo78 13 дней назад

I don’t think he was bias to any great extent, in fact, I’m quite surprised that he was more or less in agreement with the decision. And I agree with you on everything else.

@chrisspencer6502 15 дней назад

Are Isreali citizens proud of the IDF response?!

@ineedmoreflavour1955 15 дней назад

Are you proud to be supporting Hamas?

@EnglishwithJoe 15 дней назад

@@ineedmoreflavour1955 your comment makes no sense

@user-in5sh5fg3s 15 дней назад

@@ineedmoreflavour1955yes i am

@kirstyduncan408 15 дней назад

@@ineedmoreflavour1955Nobody supports Hamas. If you support the IOF you do support 4 proscribed terrorist groups that joined to become a military force. Wonder if they were deradicalized. Oh wait clearly not twrrorost then and terrorists still.

@brianferguson7840 14 дней назад

In 2018 Israeli soldiers shot over 6,000 Palestinians. In many cases they were shot with illegal expanding ammunition. So, did the present iteration of this problem begin on 7th October 2023 (1,200 casualties) or March/Dec 2018 (6,000 casualties) Discus ??

@rosemarycuthbert4623 15 дней назад

Dreadful and clearly taken out of context. More than 35000 Palestinians have been slaughtered

@xCoolverine 15 дней назад

LBC has lost the plot at this point

@HamishM22 15 дней назад

Forget about the massacre of 40000 people and counting and concentrate on a student saying something " controversial" . Distraction politics at its best .

@Human_Harvest 15 дней назад

😂😂😂 love it 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🇮🇱👊🏼

@MrPiccolop 15 дней назад

@@Human_Harvestfrom a distance I bet you do.

@MarieGroenewald-eq6pk 15 дней назад

It's been confirmed that there is inaccurate deaths reported

@elijahadegboye 14 дней назад

I think the UK Government is waking up

@docca123 13 дней назад

It’s election time

@user-pu1cx4ig2s 8 дней назад

😂😂😂😂😂 yes in icc court

@UU-vl2kn 15 дней назад

Why is this guy on LBC instead of GBN or talktv

@An-Alien-On-Earth 15 дней назад

Why do you only listen to one side of the argument? Typical leftie behaviour

@Jonnyonthespot123 15 дней назад

@@An-Alien-On-EarthWhy won't people listen to my proven lies waaaaah

@kirstyduncan408 15 дней назад

@@An-Alien-On-EarthYou guys and your labeling is so freaking funny. Yous move the goal postsof positions and then place people info your defined categories. Antizionist isn't lefty.

@An-Alien-On-Earth 15 дней назад

@@kirstyduncan408 I expect you'll be on a police wanted poster soon with your views

@An-Alien-On-Earth 15 дней назад

@@kirstyduncan408 I expect you'll be on a police wanted poster soon with your views

@grayham1969 15 дней назад

Wasteman

@Michael-yq2ut 15 дней назад

Where are all the free speech people? Was it, Free speech for me but not for thee? No wonder the students are covering their faces. Deportations shouldn't happen till people have been convicted of a crime.

@GuzziHeroV50 14 дней назад

She wasn't deported, her visa was revoked. It is very different. If you have a visa, you are agreeing to abide by the social rules of the place you are visiting and it can be revoked. Like that kid who pee'd on a police station wall some years ago, you don't have to commit a crime to be unwelcome. Do you need someone to be arrested to kick them out of your house?

@Michael-yq2ut 14 дней назад

@@GuzziHeroV50 yeah I'm sure that's where it will stop

@TransoceanicOutreach 14 дней назад

Free speech exists until you break the law by doing it. Then the consequences kick in, like losing your visa. I would also ban her for five years.

@ramel684 14 дней назад

@@TransoceanicOutreach "Free speech exists until you break the law by doing it." That's a long way of saying free speech doesn't exist

@xyo2434 14 дней назад

@@GuzziHeroV50 you're spot on the terminology, but the end result is that she got deported, since she's not allowed to live here anymore.

@hakunamatata3935 15 дней назад

She lost 15 family members. Yet she cannot support Hamas who avenges her family. Only Israelis have the right to avenge, no? British media disgusts me.

@ernestschroeder9762 14 дней назад

She lost 15 family members yet she's elated. Makes me wonder

@TransoceanicOutreach 14 дней назад

You mean fifteen terrorists in her family were killed.

@ummeammatullah6521 14 дней назад

@@ernestschroeder9762 please dont speak out of context.

@ernestschroeder9762 14 дней назад

@@ummeammatullah6521 how is that out of context? The girl was proud that her familiar had been killed?

@generaljo78 14 дней назад

So she claims.

@diptidinesh1886 15 дней назад

I really should not even accidentally tune into this station. Brrr...

@slowianka100 13 дней назад

Tom should be kicked out of LBC 🙏

@Bolachas25 15 дней назад

So Hamas committing atrocities = terrorism but IDF committing atrocities (on an even larger scale - let’s face it) = justifiable self defence. Got it.

@emmabrooker166 15 дней назад

Because Hamas are officially, legally described as a terrorist organisation in the UK. That’s the difference.

@chatham43 15 дней назад

@Bola So Hamas did commit atrocities...or am I taking that out of context?😊😊

@Bolachas25 15 дней назад

@@chatham43 they clearly committed some, though not nearly as many as the IDF claim. The beheaded babies lie was debunked within a few weeks, as was the mass rapes nonsense. Yet both keep being peddled by British media.

@globalist1990 14 дней назад

Tom says yes

@brianferguson7840 14 дней назад

@UU-vl2kn 15 дней назад

We didn't hear her mention proud of Hamas? Are you really eager to portray yourself as a blatant liar ?

@eve6225 15 дней назад

Huh? Was she talking about the tooth fairy then?

@Human_Herbivore 15 дней назад

Definitely not supporting Hamas but what makes them a terrorist organisation and the IDF not? If its about killing and abuse then the IDF has done so much more.

@09FXDB-XL883C 14 дней назад

What makes Hamas a terrorist organization? Hamas targets not only Jewish people but Palestinian people who do not agree with them. Not only that but Hamas targets, kidnaps, rapes and murders civilians. The IDF targets Hamas. Unfortunately in war there are civilian casualties which are known as collateral damage. The IDF does not intentionally target innocent Palestinian citizens but Hamas does target civilians of every ethnicity

@olgakessel4101 14 дней назад

I. D. I o t

@clivegrant3459 13 дней назад

She did not say she was full of joy for the actions of hamas and what about the people! The people of Palestine they are not Hamas as the media would like you to believe...Israeli talking point is what they wish to push

@gerrybannon7394 15 дней назад

Likud broadcasting c-t

@docca123 13 дней назад

HAMAS LOVING CNT

@Orjipromise-tz5km 13 дней назад

Hamas has been commiting sucide bombing for years now

@darrennandrewfitness2836 13 дней назад

Don't lie tell withe people why they do it. PALESTINIANs have been attacked by Iseral unprovoked for years on end. Tell the for story

@sharma.1971 11 дней назад

@@darrennandrewfitness2836there are many Muslim and Palestinians living in Israel but no Jews living in Gaza why?

@missyuna06 15 дней назад

I hate how deceitful these LBC presenters are, you fail to show the full context again and again, the reason why I unsubbed this channel

@sollykhan2385 15 дней назад

once we discover to whom these presenters are aligning their convoluted narrative, then the truth comes to light, there are NO legit platforms to disseminate the truth. they get their own mindset phoning in to prop up their cause.

@chatham43 15 дней назад

@missy Then stay unsubbed and give us all some peace.

@henryburton6529 15 дней назад

The free speech warriors have strangely changed her mind.....

@pk3778 14 дней назад

The kkk are proscribed but it's supporters are everywhere-the hypocrisy filleth the cup to overflow...

@seriousmango 14 дней назад

Sorry but she said CLEARLY that she wasn't in support of Hamas. So... ?

@nattynorth 15 дней назад

I mean it seemed like she was saying she was proud of the protesting

@jihanelaraichi 15 дней назад

Its a disgrace. ITS A SCANDAL Where was she sent to ? Israeli prison or to a palestinian bombed area

@ashurafreedan 15 дней назад

So? this isnt her country. We make the rules here

@chatham43 15 дней назад

@jihan Someplace where she can make herself useful?

@tryingmybest9819 14 дней назад

@@ashurafreedanyes and our rules are: In the UK, Article 10 of the 1998 Human Rights Act protects our right to freedom of expression: Everyone has the right to freedom of expression. This right shall include freedom to hold opinions and to receive and impart information and ideas without interference by public authority and regardless of frontiers. Are freedom of speech and freedom of expression the same thing? In the UK, freedom of speech is legally one part of the wider concept of freedom of expression. You right wingers are really inconsistent when it comes to everything. It's almost as if all right wingers are hypocrites

@ashurafreedan 14 дней назад

@@tryingmybest9819 Lady of heaven was banned. What happened to free speech then? Oh how quickly you forget the many times you left wingers caved to certain protestors cause of their religion

@generaljo78 14 дней назад

@@tryingmybest9819I’m left wing and I agree with the decision, now what?

@mamkam100 15 дней назад

I guess free speech is sacred as long as you agree with it. This is very short sighted .

@taherajenz 15 дней назад

What happened to the so called freedom of speech that we boast to people

@jamesledger2742 13 дней назад

Is Tom an Israeli spokesman?

@Aslan_Reza 15 дней назад

Q: Do concentration camp guards 🇮🇱have the right to self defence? A: absolutely not!!!

@d-logan5280 15 дней назад

Do their families? Including their babies?

@jamiemoj597 15 дней назад

Student was accurate. Doesn't warrant removing her

@docca123 13 дней назад

We don’t want her here

@ifeifesi 12 дней назад

Yeah she can be accurate back where she comes from

@brianferguson7840 15 дней назад

Where is the rest of the interview? I didn't hear anything terrible at all. What is wrong with supporting those who represent your peoples interests.

@somebody701 15 дней назад

Liar

@DeltaV-sayno2CCP 15 дней назад

Tom Suchaprick loves the IDF paycheck for promoting war crimes.

@neilcolley25 15 дней назад

great girl well said

@wuteva34 11 дней назад

How can everyone be so blind to how the Israelis have treated the Palestinians for the past 75 years?? It’s like owning a dog, keeping it chained up, beaten and starved every day and then the day comes the dog bites back, and you condemn the dog

@billlot5329 15 дней назад

It the right of the UK to exclude an individual on visa rejections on the staff guidance and grounds for refusal (immigration guidance of Visa application ) There is no UN guidance it is up to the country involved to make the final decision !

@vermasattu 13 дней назад

Why this women is Upset? She is going to her Home. She should be happy. She can practice freedom of speech in Gaza. United Kingdom don't deserve this lady. Bye Bye Dana.

@AmberJays 14 дней назад

We do not have a freedom of speech in the way that most think; we have a freedom of expression, although it is conditional upon a lot of subtext. More so, the freedom of expression isn't an absolute right. In its simplicity, you cannot rely on freedom of expression to support proscribed organisations (incl. their actions). It is correct that the visa privileges were revoked in this instance.

@Charlotte-en7dn 15 дней назад

She lost 15 family members in Gaza.

@vincentblack7467 15 дней назад

What on October 7th? Or lately?

@kevwandless 15 дней назад

Bet you have 😢 😢

@chatham43 15 дней назад

@Charlotte And she has documentary evidence to prove this?

@docca123 13 дней назад

Well she’s not giving it the biggun anymore then is she

@Fruitbat72 13 дней назад

She can go join them now! 😉

@MousquetaireC 14 дней назад

If you have to kick out everyone from the UK for a comment, Suella should be the first one kicked out

@katejackson7432 13 дней назад

welj said

@NaciMahmut-rf5xf 14 дней назад

Wasn’t this the very same student, that he had on the show & at the end of the show, threatened her with being reported to the home office? Now her been revoked! Iain Dale threatened to do this to a caller who did not believe the beheaded babies story & this infanticide condoning pound shop pears Morgan actually went and did it. He needs to be reported to this broadcaster watchdog for this behaviour.

@joshuaross913 14 дней назад

the fact that they can easily shows the government has too much power

@globalist1990 14 дней назад

No. But we all know your stance, Tom.

@katsuotataki40010 14 дней назад

Our country our rules. Dont expect the same political rights as citizens when you're here as a guest. All countries work this way

@jessicamarsano2935 14 дней назад

Sending someone to a death camp for supporting her own national struggle? Are you all unhinged?

@davidhooper1767 13 дней назад

Maybe he should go and live in Gaza to find out how the Palestinians are treated everyday.

@raymondmccrum91 13 дней назад

There should be no question she should be removed and never allowed back.

@robbie9629 15 дней назад

This soundbite is clearly without a start or end, no time or date given and absolutely no context, do you call this journalism?

@andrewwatts2443 15 дней назад

It's quite simple. You can't apply this standard to this student but not to any Jew (who are classed automatically as an Israeli citizen) that vocally supports Israel's actions. I don't like what she said but from her perspective it is the first offensive by any force, against her countries oppressors. Her perspective is that not one nation or state on the planet has helped Gaza but Israel who have blockaded and effectively occupied them for decades has been protected by everyone. Palestinian hatred of Israel is understandable but their actions against civilians IMO can't be supported.

@acr7780 15 дней назад

False equivalence. Israel is a democratic free country waging a war against terroists

@cato3224 15 дней назад

Who occupy who and where. OMG you are IGNORANT... They never had any right to be there in the first place but Israel tolerate it. Learn history. I wont bother to link proof. You know how to google...

@globalist1990 14 дней назад

The usa is actively blocking the world to help. There have been countless votes in the UN for the palestinian self-determination, and against illegal settlements from israel. The us always vetoes. I just recently found out of the us military support of indonesia, that was massacring the people of east timor. The current secretary general of the un was made popular by his role on defending east timor. The un blue helmets virtually disappeared after 2001, when the us went berserk and started it's rogue solo military operations with the support of a select few allies. Israel seems to want to go to the same path, capitalising on other countries guilt, as usual.

@globalist1990 14 дней назад

@@cato3224you are absolutely bonkers

@mochithepooh5368 14 дней назад

@@cato3224 Palestinian Arab have lived there for hundreds of years along with Palestinian Jews.

@richardlewis7498 14 дней назад

i expect she will become a human rights lawyer in the UK full of hate for the UK

@user-sr6yh7kb2i 15 дней назад

The brit government keep saying how tolerant and open their society is. She didn't call for violence, she gave an opinion they didn't like...the reaction is no better than some of the societies they criticize over free speak

@chatham43 15 дней назад

@user You mean like Palestine or Iran?

@MaziBiafra 14 дней назад

She's still in the UK, why hasn't she been deported?

@aykut3158 14 дней назад

Why haven't you been deported?

@MaziBiafra 14 дней назад

@@aykut3158 I'm not a terrorists sympathers

@aykut3158 14 дней назад

@@MaziBiafra you don't even know what a terrorist is.

@JustMe-ip9xn 14 дней назад

Joirnalism at its worst..

@Smithdavies1967gmailcom 14 дней назад

What is shocking about what she said. ..

@Dlajhhd 14 дней назад

Should Tom kick out from this program? Yes.

@user-lr6qi1yy2l 14 дней назад

He’s misrepresenting her completely. I really wish that she’d told him what it’s like living under violent military occupation and asked him whether he could tolerate that

@ianr54 13 дней назад

She is entitled to her point of view

@user-sr6yh7kb2i 15 дней назад

All countries at some point in their history rebelled against someone or another country. And they did it with violence....why this is different is beyond me

@eddiecalderone 15 дней назад

Well you can tell that to the marines

@lloydbrowne6042 15 дней назад

due process!!!

@limpopoboy814 13 дней назад

Freedom of speech yes, but ALL must realise there are consequences to actions or speech in this case, it is justifiable as Holly said.

@greamespens1460 15 дней назад

We should not be importing a war happening thousanda of miles. And those who care for either side and gonover and fight for the side they support

@shidzngigglez 13 дней назад

She was Inciting hate, Simples. Thank you Tom. Great show.

@yojimbo103 12 дней назад

Simply, no.

@ashokkhanna3689 13 дней назад

Misuse of liberty of speech. Wat she said is appalling . Send her packing

@faridaawal6422 13 дней назад

Tom you’ve twisted it all… what a disgraceful piece of journalism

@ryanking8960 14 дней назад

She is entitled to say whatever she likes. It doesnt absolve her of all consequence however.

@tiaanthony5862 13 дней назад

Yes, yes and yes! Stop freedom of speech!

@TuvRaz 7 дней назад

Of course... Why keep this filth you need this?

@biswajitdash 15 дней назад

In the visa forms, every applicant declare that they do not support or participate in any manner to any terrorist organisation. So , if Hamas is declared as terrorist org, and she is supporting and proud of their acts, home office is right here. Visa for a country is a previledge and not a right.

@chatham43 15 дней назад

,@biswaji Pound to a penny she'll still be in the country in 6 months time!

@1983pety 15 дней назад

I agree, she is a guest in the UK. If she broke the rules she must face the consequences.

@Isitraining 14 дней назад

Someone check if this guy has a plot in Palestine

@mikecahill3989 15 дней назад

She should be returned home

@user-dy6mc4iw9v 15 дней назад

Scare tactics

@angusmckenzie9622 14 дней назад

American accent ? odd. Perhaps learned her english in the US ? at an international School ? Is there more to this ?

@RatelRegalement 14 дней назад

'Well of COURSE we WOULD put it through the legal system, but as we've shafted that beyond any recognition and the case would almost certainly not be heard until 2028, we just decided 'eh, stuff it!' and made the decision ad hoc. And also because we can, and felt like it.' I think if anything that's the feel of this, utterly irregardeless of who or what.

@lindahorn9644 14 дней назад

How much do you take we are fed up with it...

@BlackSmithTalk 14 дней назад

Some sold their SOUL.

@ryansommer2158 13 дней назад

So disingenuous.

@GuzziHeroV50 14 дней назад

I disagree with both Hamas and Netenyahu / IDF. But as a guest in the country, a visa is a privilege, and can be revoked if you act offensively. It is correct that hers was revoked.

@RS-qy8pk 14 дней назад

Wow, what gaslighting from Tom at the start of the video.

@JoshuaRAWRR 15 дней назад

Answer to the title: Yes.

@tilley6351 14 дней назад

@user-li4xt4pk6e 13 дней назад

some mercenary journalists

@zareenacassim2025 13 дней назад

Shame on you commenter.

@user-hv7rq5zn3x 13 дней назад

Thank you Tom 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽

@sharifalamzouri4393 14 дней назад

Tom, your missing the context you just hear what you wanne hear

@katejackson7432 13 дней назад

freedom of speach guys, if s4e's giving the opinion of her and hdr friends wen asked u can disagree but u cant kick her out for it

@carollaughlin3983 14 дней назад

again Swarbrick you make me sick

@bluedragon13063 4 дня назад

Get rid of these incredibly biased lbc presenters

@Charlotte-en7dn 15 дней назад

She lost 15 family members in Gaza, has this Govt govt no sympathy ?

@Human_Harvest 15 дней назад

Nope neither do we 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🇮🇱🤣

@DeniseWilliams-jr5xo 15 дней назад

This Tory government have no sympathy or compassion for anyone. They have no ability to empathise. They just disgust me. The sooner they are removed from office the better. I have no confidence they will ever call a general election I suspect they will change the law before then. After all it was in their manifesto to scrap the fixed parliament. This means they could do just what the Nazi's did and keep themselves in office permanently. I'll be quite frank I wouldn't put it past them to do just that. It was on the last page of the 2019 Manifesto and I somehow doubt if many people even bothered reading that far.

@DeltaV-sayno2CCP 15 дней назад

IDF shills all over ytube.

@vincentblack7467 15 дней назад

When on October 7th??

@chatham43 15 дней назад

@Charlotte Then why is she here on a visa?

@EnglishwithJoe 15 дней назад

Her comments seem very reasonable to me considering the suffering that Palestinians have been under for many many decades.

@cynthiamorris1874 15 дней назад

It’s about time these people started respecting this country.

@example306 15 дней назад

How is showing support for Palestinians not respecting this country?

@BrodaPaul 15 дней назад

These people?

@Sharon-zi1xn 15 дней назад

Last time i attempt to watch this drivel, as you cannot leave a comment without it being removed!! Waste of time and space,, utterly pointless!! Stick with Piers Morgan uncensored! where you can have a proper discussion, and debate things in the comment section, no matter what your point of view!!!