Not sure what's going on with ARM processors or elsewhere in the windows stuff but I am totally interested in this blackfriday sales as far as stuff like loq from lenova goes or other brands like msi stuffed with intel and rtx for less than $1200? Like, I am talking $899 40 series 1tb sometimes even 32gb. ddr5!
Definitely, you should wait for RTX 5060 to arrive. And then wait until it stops being so expensive and you get a good deal. Only when you had waited all this time you should finally reconsider buying RTX 5060 and wait for RTX 6060, because you will be missing out otherwise!
I think this year is the rare exception to wait just due to how stingy AMD and (especially) Nvidia are being about VRAM. Can you afford at least 12gb of VRAM? If not, wait for a sale or a new release to drop the price.
For nearly five years, I had put off purchasing a laptop. Towards the end of the year, I pondered whether to buy an inexpensive one or wait for a newer and more powerful model. I ultimately decided to wait for the newer model, but when it was released, I found myself asking whether I should buy it immediately or wait for seasonal sales. This cycle continued, and as a result, I have been unable to purchase a new laptop for five years already.
Smart move:) I'm still using a 7 years old laptop with GTX 1050-Ti which I brought for $200 used. I able to play majority of the newest triple-A games at 1080p. So I though to myself. "Why not use those money on games instead"? 1-2k is a lot of money. The urge to upgrade is strong, but I don't want to throw away a laptop that let me see how much an individual wasted on upgrades. My latest video is up if anyone is interested.
The cycle will continue so long as you keep playing the waiting game. There is ALWAYS a reason to wait, but are they actually good reasons to? No. Though people will keep coming with excuses to try manipulate themselves into thinking it is. In the end, you lose time within your life that you can never get back. Instead of making sure you live in the moment and experience all life has to offer.
tbh, I don't think mini-led is very good. Especially in a working environemnt. I have Rog Flow X16 miniled. For example, if you have a grey or black background and a white curosr on it. You can see clearly that the backlight zone containing the cursor is visiably brighter than other zones. But in games where colors are generally more diversed, this is no longer an issue, as the zone are no longer visiable.
@@peacefultyranny8981 Yeah, I was interested in the tech, but heard reports of so many issues with these laptop mini led displays that I passed entirely. I got an OLED for my PC and have had zero issues this past year. OLED is good enough now that unless you're being really negligent, burn in isn't really a concern. I use it half the time for desktop work and still no issues. I just make sure to run the pixel refresh cycle when prompted and it's been a non issue.
just bought a predator neo 16 , i7 13700hx + 4060 + 1440p 500 nits screen, it comes with only one memory slot used, so easy to upgrade to 32 gb and i installed a more fast 2tb ssd, 16 gb ram is nonsense in 2023 on win 11 and 512 gb of ssd is full in like 7 minutes of use, but i can say than i am very happy with it, frame generation is a real game changer, game that run at 40 fps go up to 70 fps with fg so you can use the nice rt effect or up the resolution, and the screen is better than evrything else on the market at this price point, i come from a 970m so it's a big upgrade for me, because of covid price of 3000 serie was crazy for a while. now i bought this include the upgrades for 1300 dols in south east asia where i live (more pricy than in the us) . good point, i live in tropical 30 degree environment and the computer stay very cold while gaming (never more than 80 degree on cpu and gpu), but the most terrible point are the speakers, absolutly awfull, impossible to watch a movie on that shit, but i connect a good soundbar so i don't care that much, the rest is great !
I picked up the Asus Rog Strix G18 Laptop with an RTX 4080 from Best Buy during their Laptop sale last week. I found an open box in excellent condition. No sign of any wear at all or light bleed. It has the I9 13980HX and it was marked down to $1,761.00. It only came with 16gb of DDR5 4800mhz. I'm picking up 64gb of DDR5 4800mhz for $150.00 tomorrow from Micro Center. I'm very happy with this purchase.
just bought one! thanks to this channel helped a lot ! Was between a msi40480 and a 4090 and due to upgrade making it like 2k i went for the hp omen 4090 for about 2500 and i couldn't be happier!
buy it when you need it, but if you know something is coming then maybe wait. Got new desktop with intel 12th gen and 3080 in 2022, but at the end of the year the 13 gen were coming out as the nvidia 40x0 series. I been watching this year, some sales throughout, but Christmas and new years sales at besbuy were amazing. Almost picked up the asus 14" zeph for 1099 off $600 at Bestbuy. I decided to wait next year since I already had the home pc in 2022. I will replace my laptops with the rumored HP omen transcend 14". Just like HP, Asus was looking good, but i didn't need it really.
The newest laptop isn't guarantee better build and components quality, but make sure it's specifications able to run the newer OS, the OS always forced consumen to use their newest version
i doubt RTX 5000 series gonna improve anything compared to 4000 series for laptops if 5050 had 8gb of Vram instead 6 then its possible but i predict it gonna pull intel and just have 5% improvement for double the price
I agree, generational improvements are getting smaller and smaller ever since silicon improvements got less significant, especially at the same wattage (and price), and you can't just add a 100 Watts to a laptop for more power in a laptop that already barely gets 2 hours of battery life with 99Whr battery and sits around at 90 degrees Celsius.
Is it worth upgrading from a gtx1650 to an rtx4050 right now? I can squeeze it in my budget, but now that my gtx1650 is working properly I'm not sure that it's worth the upgrade. Especially because mine is paired with the 4600h with an amazing iGPU. The only games that I play are Forza, Minecraft, and Insurgency Sandstorm and all of them run at 60+ fps in my current config.
What I really expect is 7800x3d laptop equivalent. We already have equivalent of 7950x3d. In combination with 4070 laptop it could make an amazing bestseller for the next couple of years
Already got mine TUF A17 2023 to replace my ASUS ROG Strix G731 that i bought in 2020 (Still works great btw and it is serve as my backup laptop) , so no new laptop for at least another 3 years.
Guys its not about what's coming next being better or not, Its about if you really need a new laptop or no. Yes the new ones would always be better but the time you spent with something that's not up to your needs is not worth the 10-20% performance advantage.
Here I wonder if I should still keep my current laptop as it will be 4 years that I’ve had it. It runs RE4 remake great at high settings with a 1080p 144Hz screen, 16GB DDR4 RAM, and an RTX 2060 6GB. I’m hoping it will be good for another 5 years if I take it to a laptop repair shop for maintenance and add thermal paste to the CPU and GPU. Is this better than getting a new laptop? I feel the current settings are up to snuff with a PS5
For me, I set my expectations for a gaming laptop on the most demanding game I play and if it can play it at a acceptable framerate. I'm on a 4070ti laptop and it plays everything fine. I came from only suing desktops for a while, and I know I can get more performance from a desktop, but if you set a frame rate bracket you can live with (I set mine at 90 to 60 FPS(I can play Warframe at 200, I can Play Cyberpunk at above 60 maxed out (with some Ray Trace settings), I can play Nioh 2 at around 110) and the games you want to play fit in it, anything else is overkill. Now, you could buy a newer laptop with a 4000 series Nvidia and get frame generation and dlss 3, and future proof yourself at a good price point for this generation, so if you discipline yourself to accept reasonable frame rates with a laptop, you should buy when the current generation is cheapest. I have a Asus Strix SCAR g18 with a 4090 in it, bought it at a really good price (for where I live) and in year when 5000 series cards come out, I with buy a thunderbolt 4 enclosure with a desktop card in it if there is a huge difference and a game I really want to play needs that level of performance. This is the thing; if you get a thunderbolt 4 port on a laptop (or a kit to use the pcie port inside) you can hook up a desktop card, even the exact same version or less, and see a big jump in performance. As long as you have at least a thunderbolt 4 spec port, you're able to upgrade to a DESKTOP card.
I have HP Victus with Ryzen 5600H and Gtx1650 which I bought last year in Sept. I think I can wait till 2025 to buy Rtx5000 series laptop. I'm not into any rush or something, this laptop is working fine for me. As I also see there's no huge gap bw Rtx 4000 series and 3000 series so point in buying right now.
I actually just ordered a legion 7i with a 4080. Doesnt look like were getting much for the 2024 models and they are 24 percent off atm. Even better than the black friday and boxing day sales i saw!
Maybe we'll get to see more laptops with the newer AMD CPUs with RDNA3 based iGPUs. Currently there aren't a lot of them, because the CPU was launched later.
im thinking about hthe strix g18 with a 4080, and i thought id ask for your opinion on that computer... other options are lenovo i7 with a 4080 or another one im about to look up called the msi vector gp68hx.... dunno if the latter is good at all but, id love to hear @JarrodsTech opinion on it... also are there probably going to be sales in december as well? my parents are saying i need to wait...
Thanks for the information. I am very interested in the new USB/Thunderbolt standard that is suppose to come out next year. This will affect FPS for 4+K external monitors. I am more interested in this bit of hardware than I am the GPU. (I am interested in both.) So, I am a little disappointed you did mention anything about it. Is there any news about the new connectivity standard and will it make it into 2024 laptops? Thanks. And keep up the great work.
OLED QHD is still quite expensive for me. Especially OLED QHD with touch screen. Buying expensive hardware but only for gaming is too expensive. But OLED with touch screen also still expensive. I choose to wait.
My biggest issue is the 8Gb of VRAM on the rtx 4070. it is just unjustifiable considering even the 3070 from 3 years ago had the same amount of vram. It is not enough for a high end GPU and considering that the 4060 has that same amount of VRAM is Kinda crazy
Insane prices on gaming laptops led me to the ROG ally and now I’ve realized I don’t need a powerful rig for travel gaming . A console at home and a deck or ally or the new legion is the way to go
@@srobeck77 theyre often lacking in dimming zones for example. would you say theyre actually really close enough to oled that i wont see the difference? if so i would consider mini led.
Are OLEDs really worth it knowing they'll get burn-in from UIs and other static images (the brighter the more damaging) sooner or later? Mini-LEDs sound like a good compromise between visual fidelity and reliability.
If were not for Meteor Lake, i'd have bought a 7840HS + 4060 laptop for whenever i have to travel (like almost every 2 weeks) and can't bring with me a console or something. I really want that battery life (specially when navigating and reproducing video) and the AI capabilities for Win11/12, i don't care if it's only 5~10% better than 13700H/13620H. And with some luck, maybe the 4060/70 models get more reasonable prices thanks to the super refresh. My 8750H + GTX1070 really deserves it's retirement.
How do you think Intel's APO, will affect the 14th gen Intel based laptops? I think they might be shown off at CES. Would like to hear your opinion on 14th gen+ APO vs 13th gen
@@demistr7435 really I thought it just came out when I was reading about it as uk pc world (our biggest computer shop company) has only recently started stocking them.
Thanks for the video. Nvidia is dissapointing us again. No desktop 4060 ti 16GB or 4070 next year either. They really hate us, don't they? For laptops, it's either low end or high end, no inbetween.
@@tfuu5144 I'm saying these 2 GPUs are not *in laptops.* There are 4070 ti and 4080 in laptops(albeit with slower memory, called 4080 and 4090 in the mobile segment), but no mid-range options.
Better wait for RTX 5000 series laptops. It would be a bigger leap as compared to 4000 series from 3000 series. Main reasons are GDDR7 memory, DLSS 4, higher VRAM capacity even on base cards like 5050 considering the requirements have exponentially increased in these 2 years. (Alan Wake 2, Starfield, etc).
I have the 4000 series laptop ... I need a minimum 2x CPU performance/1.5x power consumption improvement AND 3X GPU Improvement to upgrade ... So probably Ryzen 8000 series (igpu will be 3x faster than 1650ti dedicated GPU) and support Ray tracing as I usually run older gameplay focussed games (eg. GTA 5 online, DARK SOULS , etc on IGPU at 720 low ) to increase fan life/reduce dust getting in and blocking it.
What is the best value, thinnest, lightest, high performing 14-16 inch gaming laptops with amazing screens and has a 4080 or 4090 cards??? Or does this category just not exist? The closest thing I find is the legion 7i slim... But it's a 4070... And the 4080 is really that sweet spot for mobile gaming...
You pretty much said it, but without emphasis. The only new product of interest in the near future is if other brands than Alienware picks up the 7900M and thus lowers the price for similar or slightly better performance, Like a pure AMD Lenovo Legion Pro 7 or something. But that is a far cry, so yes, I am seriously consider doing business now.
I just ordered a legion 7 pro 2023 with top Amd 16 cores and 4090, for € 2800 thanks to November coupon. I was sick of my Legion 5 pro (5800h + 3070) level of performance, too slow. I'm sure I will be blown away by 4090 horsepower, by I regret that in 2023 I still can't have a gaming laptop with an Oled screen. That's a real shame. I'm sure 2024 will fix this, and I will be thinking "you fool you should have waited!"
I didnt want to wait GTA 6 and I bought rtx4070. After I played modern warfare 3 now I say I wish I could wait. But life is short if you really want to buy then buy it like me and play other games.
omg , i think this is the time for me i have been waiting since 2020 for a laptop , budget currently 1200 dollars to 1400 dollars [ i am currently using a hp laptop with processor i5-7200u with integrated graphics since starting of 2017 ]
Hi! i need your help, which one do u consider its best at the same price point (1.099usd) Legion 5! Slim 5 or the Asus Tuf F15 Intel Core i7 with 16GB Memory - NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4060 . I really appreciate your help, I'm an engineering student so i don't want to get a bad deal thinking about the future performance and etc I love ur videos btw!!!!
There are quite a lot of deals popping up now, but we think Black Friday will have the best deals. It's hard to know what models the sales will be on though.
I’m looking at buying a new gaming laptop, I haven’t had a laptop now for the best part of 10 years as have been a heavy console player. I don’t have a lot of space so laptop works best for me to get. I’ve found on Black Friday sales through curry’s a Lenovo LOQ 15APH8 for £999 (was £1,349). Has AMD Ryzen 7 and 1TB SSD. Is this a steal or should I look at getting something else instead?
I am still going to wait, simply because I want an RTX 4080 laptop with a Ryzen processor, and those currently don't exist. I hope Tongfang / XMG are listening
I am very doubtful. I am about to enter a masters in astrophysics so my i5-8 gen laptop+gtx 1050 is about to retire. The best deals are a gigabyte G5 i5-12th gen + ryx 4060 for 1000 USD and a Asus Zephyrus g14 Ryzen 7 5800Hs + rtx 3060 for 860 USD . Both would be upgraded to around 64 GB of ram. I would appreciate someone's opinion. Even though my workflow cares only about raw performance, idk if hsving nicer things in the laptop and saving the money would be better.
If they are releasing the super series in March/April that tells me the 2025 5000 series will likely be a noticeable/significant improvement. Also, I've heard rumors a while back that the 5000 will be a significant leap.
i might risk it and skip this year's black Friday sale just to see if 24 models got brighter screen. (yes im referring to you aorus) or msi pulse/strix scar 17. not bright enough for my environment
I hope more innovation comes. Wonder what it is behind the scenes that makes it so slow. i.e. a dock that can allow you to use three 4k monitors with sync, a phone with win11 that can be docked, and changing trajectory of these gpu's with proper naming and stop introducing these Ti version a year later. i like the frame generation that's cool, so wonder what's next.
Hi Jarrod, thanks a lot for your awesome videos. There are actually good discounts on lenovo laptops (Black friday + student discounts up to 25%) and I'd like to pick a Legion Pro 7(i) now and I can't decide between the Intel and AMD variants. The intel version comes with i9-13900HX, 16 GB 5600MHz, 512 GB SSD, RTX 4080 at a discounted price of 2240 €, The AMD version comes with Ryzen 9 7945HX, 32 GB 5200MHz, 512 GB SSD, RTX 4080 at a discounted price of 2158 €. So the AMD version has a double RAM and less 100 Euros price. Which one do you suggest? I'm a bit concerned about the temps in the AMD variant. It's also worth mentioning that I'm living in Germany (So a lot of taxes) and I think this are good deals! Thank you!
this may surprise you, but AMD Dragon Range cpus are not crazy efficient compared to intel HX variants. If you still want some time off the wall plug, the 13900HX is gonna be a better choice, unless you find a laptop with 7940HS which you have to sacrifice performance if battery life is your main focus
I feel like unless you can get a 4080/90 you might as well get a 3080 laptop on sale. It doesn't have frame gen but my GP66 blows everything up to the 4070 out of the water with a 15k graphics score on Time Spy, albeit it isn't stock. The newer CPUs are definitely better since I still have an 11800 but for a 1-2k USD price difference to actually have better performance it just seems goofy when some 3080 laptops are the price of a new laptop with a ultra fast 4050...
I found an Asus s17 with a 3080 for around 1k thinking if I should get that or just get a new 40 series since im upgrading from a 10 year laptop with a 870m graphics card....
For someone who bought a 4090 laptop GPU in 2023 there’s no reason to upgrade in 2024. They are still using the same GPU but with 64gb ram instead of 32. Bit paying another 5k for just an upgrade in ram
Hey jarrod and the comment section , can you all help me out ? I live in India and want to upgrade to the new TuF from my old TuF , no other brands or series. I was eyeing the 2022 Tuf 3060 with Ryzen 7 6800H , because this has a peak battery life [ which i need when i am daily driving it ] and its 165hz 100% sRGB display. It costs currently around 1400$ USD. and ill buy it in 2024 , likely august , but will it be usable for the nest 4 years in college ? And should i drop it and buy the latest ones ?
My acer predator gaming laptop broke (i bought it like three years ago). So i bought an Acer nitro 17 AMD Ryzen 7 7840HS Octa-Core CPU | NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4060 Laptop GPU for $999, black friday deal Is this a good deal/gaming laptop? I was also on a budget.
