@@HighPeakAutos I have to agree with David. I watched this video as I was considering getting a ute - I used to have a family that relied on a passenger car, and now they are older and no longer reliant, so I wanted a ute to move things to and from my house. I got the Steed in AU. Feels like Im driving a Ute. Handles just like a Ute. Because it's a Ute. And I saved like 20 grand compared to other brands that had comparable extras. Im in no hurry to complain - and plus, I have a shiny new car :)
Yep. He takes it to a new level doesn't he. Great Wall is one of the largest vehicle manufacturers in the world and he didn't know that? They produced and sold over 1 million vehicles worldwide in 2016. Lastly, if a vehicle doesn't appear to fit into his narrow functional requirements, he bags it. One of the worst reviews I have seen in some time. 🤔
@@53glowe Give the guy a break. Great Wall is a big player in China and Asia, but it's still largely unknown in Europe and the US. It does not matter how many units a manufacturer has sold if those units have not made it your way: You won't know it exists.
GWM has been an established brand here in South Africa. The Steed is based on the Isuzu Rodeo you mentioned The 3rd, 4th and 5th generation Isuzu Dmax pickups were all used as the base for various Chinese brands such as Foton, JMC etc. The GWM Hover or H5 SUV is an old Isuzu Axiom from 2001-2002. GWM have sold a number of pick up trucks or bakkies as they known here in SA but are still a minor player, compared to Hilux and Ranger sales. In SA its also a value purchase and they are very popular with construction and agricultural businesses.
I have worked most of my life in construction plant sales and forestry, I would be totally lost without a double cab pick up truck, it gives me a balanced combination of decent on road drive, good off road drive, load carrying space, 3500kg towing capacity and room for 4-5 people on a short journey, OK fuel consumption is normally just under 30mpg irrespective of what the manufacturers claim, presently I have a Ford Ranger double cab 2.2L 6-speed Auto Limited spec, had several Nissan Navaras before but this is probably the best pick up truck I've had, wonderful chassis when pushed hard - yes I can drive a 4x4 quite fast and not crash. The Great Wall pick up, well its OK for a lifestyle truck but its too flimsy to last in my world.
So you have a Ranger and have had several Navaras. You don't say you've owned, driven or even touched a Great Wall. How do you conclude they're flimsy?
I’m in Australia and I have a Steed. This review is spot on. The cup holder comment is so accurate. Ultimately it’s a good ute and this channel is on the ball
Comment of the week: " They all have the same turning circle as HMS Belfast " Brilliant love your reviews/honesty and above all dry sense of knowledgeable humour. 👌👌👌👌👌👌👌👌
I had an Isuzu for a while and you're right, the ride is floaty, but I actually enjoyed it! Anyhow, more interesting is that the GWM Steed is actually based on that exact Dmax. They share a chassis and much of the interior... excellent video, as always.
Fantastic pickup for the money we have had our dealer maintained chrome edition for 5 years and has not needed anything- unbelievable reliability- wish the same could be said of my brand new m340d bmw !!!! This truck is basic but comfortable and I agree 100% with your comments / great review- such a massive Shame they pulled out of the. Uk - but who could blame them - euro 6 - Australia and South Africa selling thousands and the home market- maybe one day they will come back with their first all electric pick up - unbelievable vehicles
Oh wow, didn't expect anyone to know these, have barely seen any of them and they started in the euro market from a factory in my home country (Bulgaria). In 2012, Great Wall Motors went into partnership with Litex Motors to produce these cars for the European market, started with 2k cars a year and went all the way up to 5k a year in 2017... and then Litex motors bankrupted xD. Great Wall cars were supposed to be a big hit in eastern Europe due to the quite low manufacturing cost, the only rival at their price point was Dacia. Keep in mind that the average age of cars on the road in eastern Europe is like 15 years, less than 3-5 year old cars are about as rare as supercars in UK... You see some in big cities, but that's about it. However, initial reviews of Great Wall cars were quite bad. I remember an early Bulgarian review saying you should also buy a gas mask with your Steed, as some exhaust fumes somehow get into the cabin xD. Also, we were baffled why they started with the Steed (a pickup) and marketed it heavily. Pickups are super rare in eastern Europe - predominantly narrow streets and not enough parking spaces, so it can be a tight fit. Plus, economy is important here as fuel ain't cheap (compared to our incomes). For example, minimum salary in Bulgaria is 325 Euro, average is about 500-900 depending on whether you live in a big or small city, while 1L of petrol costs about 1.1 Euro. Even if you can afford it and need a lot of space, judging by what I see on the streets, apparently 99.9% of people prefer to get a ~10 year old crossover or SUV instead of a new Great Wall steed... or any other pickup. I travel to rural places in the mountains for holidays and pickups aren't popular even there. I think the closest place with plenty of pickups is Crete (the greek island), it's full of Toyota Pickups, but I doubt they'll enjoy Great Wall's reliability record xD. PS Great Wall also makes buses, we have quite a few of them in our public transport fleets.
Clarkson wrote a great article on double cabs explaining how the BiK tax rates on them were the big attraction and finished by saying "if you are an accountant you are probably nursing a semi at this point"
My daily driver is a 2012 Ram 1500, 4.7 V8, standard cab, 8 foot bed. It is a stripped down vehicle which I use for my business. I love my truck. It’s handsome, comfortable, powerful, surprisingly luxurious, for a vehicle with vinyl on the seats and rubber on the floor, gets about 23 mpg on the highway, and has been more reliable than my ‘07 Honda Fit. My truck is great for the US and Canada. It’s part of the rural culture here, and is designed for our infrastructure and landscape. It would be out of place in the UK or Europe. Having said that, neither should such a vehicle be turned into a luxed-out, suburban family hauler, as they are here in the states. Those trucks can retail for 75,000 dollars, and that’s for a 2wd, 1500, light duty pick up. That is beyond absurd for the average family, unless they own a farm or ranch...but people here buy them like they’re going out of style. I actually had to special order a work truck. The dealership had 50 Rams on their lot at the time, and all of them were the afore-mentioned luxe trucks. I thought it was kind of nuts.
I live in South Africa and have had a Steed 5 - 4x4 for 6 yrs, been to Namibia/Angola/Zambia/Botswana most of the time on gravel roads, i had a few problems under our 3 year warranty but for the remaining 3years have not spent one cent on the vehicle except for normal service items, not the best pickup on the market but for the price you pay nothing to beat it, will keep it till it falls to pieces, so handy to throw all your garden rubbish in and not bother about scratching it, as a side note the engine was developed by Bosch with Bosch electronics, all drive train is Borg/warner. Good down to earth review
Thanks! Thats interesting to hear your thoughts on it after owning it for many years. I was impressed with it when you remember how cheap it is! Thanks for your comments. :)
We've had Great Wall vehicles here in Australia for some time. You don't see a lot of them - probably about as often as the Indian manufactured Mahindra. My main concern with such vehicles would be how safe they are in a crash. Really enjoying your reviews. Thanks for the videos.
PLEASE PLEASE WILL YOU STOP MAKING VIDEOS LIKE THIS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! We as viewers are not accustomed to watching a decent/excellent / well presented and most of all honest review from a You tuber that doesn't shout at you, tell you how much money they have, give you a 0-60 mph and constantly break the speed limit whilst doing so etc etc. Please stop it and get a grip man. 😁😁😁😁 Do hope that was a dam good telling off from one of your loyal followers.
Thank you! I really appreciate your support! I'll keep doing the same if thats what's working. I hope it doesn't come across as boring, but I think it's all about the cars and sharing my opinion, rather than me trying to sell you a product, or entice you with clickbait titles and vulgar displays of wealth.
Agree, gettin tired of this guys highly informative presenting and seemingly sound buying advice. This man obviously has no conflict of interest or hidden agenda's. .....bit drawn out at times, but Simple to watch, relatable and exactly what a normal person wants. Not a "youtuber"
🤣🤣 he needs a good telling off. Too much of a good job. I've become a loyal follower because he speaks the truth. Which is a rare of hen's teeth or as I like to say donkeys horns 🤣
Like you I'm not a pick up fan, but it's amazing value. Bye the way I've only just found you're RU-vid channel, and subscribed straight away. You're truly professional in front of camera. Top work 👏
We buy more double cabs in South Africa than VW polo’s. The Amarok 3.0 is great. We have a Triton “L200” which works hard and will outlast pretty much any defender.
Great Wall has been for sale here in New Zealand for a few years, but I have never known anyone who has had or used one, or seen one reviewed. UTEs VERY popular here, as you would expect though. resale woeful.
Shane Pleasance You rarely see Great Walls here. I was quite impressed with this one especially when you consider the saving. I’m surprised UTEs never became popular over here, it would be a better option than driving a huge pick up truck around
Had a mate drove a Great Wall for two years in Chch, sorry Christchurch NZ. Cheap to buy, run but a bit of a hit on sale - what you would expect. Would have kept longer but found ride on long trips, not as good as the unreliable Hilux he sold it for. Bought a Amarok after that, not the economy he thought (again on the long trips) now like many others bought a Ranger. Fwiw, not particularly brand loyal tho likes the Ranger and would have another, buys what seems best every 2-3 years, his only car, does long trips.
I personally drove the single cab steed 5 on the harsh South African terrain , 80kms new to 149000kms I loved every minute of that truck. I hate negative reviews because I personally loved the Gwm
Doing very well in South Africa amongst businesses and some farmers (non-brand snobs). Together with Mahindra pick-up trucks they are the best priced. Their Haval SUV's have also taken off here and sell like hot cakes.
I know people will say that it was the base model without airbags or ABS that scored zero in Global NCAP ratings, but they said they doubted even airbags would have increased the rating. They certainly expected better performance from it without those feature. Maybe that's why Great Wall no longer sell new cars in the UK.
Good report, unflattering, honest, factual and no bullshit. Have you lived in Australia or New Zealand? I'm impressed and incidentally, I've owned 2 Great Wall vehicles and confirm everything you've said.
Great Wall sell under a different brand called HAVAL,a fleet of offroaders,starting with H.Tucson size,going up...to the size of Toyota Landcruiser.It's been selling in Australia/Newzealand, South africa,Russia...much cheaper than the Japanees and loaded with 'toys'
I've got one from 2009 in Australia still running never a major issue new catalytic converter was probably the biggest expense since new. But she is rusting now just replaced bonnet and 2 doors and now looking new
Chinese cars are wonderful! How could anyone not love things like the Lamb Roller Discoverer, Strange Dover Sport, Walksvogen Dolph, Auzi PP...legends, one and all.
They make your iPhones too, pal:) and what was the last decently designed and manufactured product in England? I don’t think the term “cheap Chinese tat” applies these days. Much like cheap tat Skoda. It’s just not the case anymore:)
@@guinnessharvey4476 They don't make them, they manufacture under strict controls on every aspect of materials and output by the actual makers (eg Apple). The problem with Chinese makers is cost-cutting in materials wherever they can. This has a profound effect on durability and longevity of the kind that doesn't even enter the head of western consumers. A perfect and just singular example of this is the break down of intake tube and manifold plastics after only 12 months in some Chinese cars. The kind of deterioration and splitting we see after 15-25 years in Japanese or German cars. When you see it you realise the cultural differences that form the basis of their distinct version of capitalism.
@@DiscoFang it’s not just about the poor quality of their vehicles either … where I used to work (I’m retired now) we had our own foundry and made replacement parts for Stone Crushers and Industrial Wheelabrator Type Shotblasting Machines … the parts we made were all the internal wear plates and the crusher hammers … they had to be high quality and very hard wearing due to the nature of the work … the Chinese also make these items (copied from the original) and they sell them around half the price of uk made parts … but they’re crap inferior products poorly made and full of blowholes… but try telling that to your customers …. All they look at is the price !! They think that because it looks the same it is the same and at half the price it must be a bargain … but they don’t wear the same and the parts need to be replaced more frequently ….
I was looking into buying this, then I noticed this on the UK website. Greatwall sales now ceased across Europe Sales of Greatwall motor cars have now ceased across Europe. However, we wish to reassure Greatwall owners that all after sales services will continue unaffected. Therefore, the supply of spare parts will continue, and warranty work and servicing will be carried out at our official UK dealer network.
Because pickups are handier than a van for people who live/work in a rural area because their off road capable and carry a heavier load than suv and they are tougher. Like you would take a Peugeot partner down a rough muddy dirt track to where you need to go
I have to agree with you, Pick Up trucks just don't make any sense in the UK, none whatsoever. If you need to haul loads of stuff around, buy a Transit for goodness sake. Excellent review too.
I've owned on of these for about 5 years now... A 2012 V200(so diesel) 2x4 with the 6 speed manual. The engine itself is terrific and I couldn't fault it, gets used as a daily and work horse, and tows heavy loads no problem, everything else on the other hand is utter garbage 😅 it's ridiculously slow, the clutch is terrible (an after market, heavy duty clutch fixed this issue somewhat), it's already started to rust in multiple parts of the body (I live off the coast in a tropicalish part of Australia), the interior falls apart just from looking at it, hell the list could on for hours, but I still prefer it over a Hilux, Navara or a Triton 😅
Yeah I think they've come along way with the latest model in Australia and the steel quality has improved. Good to hear that it is still running strong after 10yrs. They give a 7yr unlimited km warranty now which is better then ford or holden they have to trust there equipment otherwise it'll send them broke.
Pickup trucks are totally lost on me as well, I work on an estate where where there are several, all different makes and models, and all I ever see is people having to empty them completely to get at something buried in the back. Also like you say, can't even fit a set of steps in there, all their crap gets tied to the roof rack. My bosses son for example, the family who own the estate are worth an absolute fortune, lovely people, could go out and buy a Porsche if he wanted, went and bought a ford ranger, simply because his mate on site has one. I will never understand these people.
You are spot on! Used one of these type of pick-ups for one day's work - I'm a self employed electrician. Truly awful! Bruised my shins to black 'n'blue climbing in the back to reach tools. Steps don't fit and my FWD van is better on snow with winter tyres. Farmer's tow truck - nothing else.
Enjoyable review. The reason this truck is so good is that its virtually identical to the 2004 Isuzu , on which it is based. The design, engineering and dash are the same. Great Wall have however now pulled out of the UK .
Not checked this..... but a salesman once told me that you can trace most of the parts to Japanese and European vehicles, that Great Wall have literally copied..... such as, he said the headlights were a direct copy from a recent Golf ? The dashboard is from a rival pickup and the steering wheel from another.... All good though..... as you say, as good as any other for half the money 🙂
Pick ups make no sense over here but I love them in the US. They are so versatile. You can throw a snow plough on the front, they have high ground clearance, most are four wheel drive (all helpful as the majority of Americans live a bit off the street down driveways that get muddy and wet in winter), I've thrown everything from a wardrobe to a V8 in the back. We have panel vans (transits and what not), America has pick up trucks.
I have driven pick-ups in Australia and South America and I agree they are pretty crude. However if you want a rugged, reasonably cheap workhorse that can survive being driven on dirt roads for thousands of kms then they are a good bet. More robust than a normal car but much cheaper and simpler than a full on 4WD or SUV. One big downer with the Great Wall is that it doesn't have a very good safety rating which has really stifled sales.
Who makes the engines for Great Wall? The 2.4 four-cylinder petrol engine is a joint venture engine widely used in China and originally bought under licence from Mitsubishi. The diesel in the Great Wall is the maker's first common rail turbo diesel - some of the development was done with Bosch in Australia.24 Aug 2011
Currently looking for cheap Ute for fishing, the cheapest I can found in NZ is 9years old done 351K on clock, current bids on trademe is $3250. Thinking of value for money, way much better thanToyota, both new, GW cost you 29K here in NZ, 9 years later resale for 4K? Lost 25k, New Toyota Hilux 60k+ , 9 years later with same k’s, resale max 20k? Lost more than 40k!
It really is a beautiful area. It’s reminiscent of the landscape in rural Pennsylvania, where I grew up. My mother’s side of the family originated in nearby Stockport. I’ve added High Peak to my bucket list, of places I’d like to visit in the U.K.
These things would make perfect council vehicles with the crew cab and lockable back for tools. Would save some money... edit maintenance would be the issue as that cambelt could need changing alot given its pitiful 45k mile interval.
@@wyattfamily8997 Okay Tory. Chinese autos are actually becoming pretty common now - MG are semi-popular, not to mention how many other car brands are Chinese owned (Geely are pretty massive). I'm no fan of China or the PRC, shouldn't even need to state that to defend a pretty trivial thing.
Very Popular here in South Africa ...Diesel way better than the 2.4 petrol which is a old Mitsubishi based engine with bad fuel economy.. The interior is identical to a 2007 Isuzu kb bakkie (s.a for pick up lol) good value for money pick up though .
Fair review of the truck, but saying pick-ups are pointless is really daft. There’s a reason so many are sold, and it’s because the majority who buy them will use them properly: ie, able to take a 1 tonne bag of sand/gravel dropped in the bed with ease, go off-road to site with 5 workers in, have a crane or forklift/telehandler unload you, get everything you need done and get back off site without getting stuck. And they look way better than a van too
I live in North America and your absolutely right, pick up trucks are stupid. I should know, I owned 3. Finally purchased a Mercedes Metris (Vito). Pick up trucks are used for status for the working class. It has nothing to do with practicality. The phenomenon of the pickup is exactly that, a phenomenon. Vans are quite a bit more to purchase than a truck if you compare apples to apples in North America. But the practicality of a van far outweighs the extra cost in tool storage, organization of materials etc.
Drives ok. Handles fine for a pickup. BUT, the underbody coverage is pants and beyond 6 years it’s likely to fall apart with the rust I see on our one. They have a habit of overheating if you tow with them as well - and it it’s gutless for towing as well. For a few bales on the farm or lightweight stuff then it’ll do as long as you look after it. Heated seats are good it has to be said.
Only a couple of downsides with this 1. Only pulls 2 tonne 2. Belt change every 45k as opposed to most other trucks which are over 100k I work in the on shore drilling game and a 3.5t towing capacity is an absolute necessity. But for their first U.K. Truck it's not a bad shot at it.
Just a quick point on the use of pick ups, they are basically the modern and only option for farmers these days. Defenders are super expencive now and getting older, the new one looks like a disco 4 with a body kit. All other modern 4x4s dont have the rugged basic interiors that arent going to get wrecked, places to chuck bales ect, and towing ability. They are also common for use for work on solar farms, wind farms where required to gp offroad with kit. Just getting kit out the back is a pain and the ride is so poor...
I have to admit I have never heard of these until now. I saw a great example of a Ford Ranger for sale at my trusted dealers for almost exactly the same price. If I had the money I prefer the Escalade.. Even over a Lincoln Navigator. Just need a frigging step ladder to check the oil n water and a good lotto win for the maintenance, fuel & running costs. I happen to like it and the price is not too steep.
@@HighPeakAutos I generally really like your reviews, I discovered your channel about a week ago and I have been consuming all your content. Love the subtle jokes and your car choices. Have a good one :)
I've never understood the appeal of pick-up trucks unless you use one for work. But they seem to be gaining in popularity even in Europe, which makes no sense at all to me.
You are right in that no one knows what pick ups are useful for. If you are a townie. If you live in the country then you don’t understand how people live without a dirty, bouncy, grotty stinking pickup truck that looks like it could give you an infection just by sitting in it.
I have 2 Mitsubishi Tritons they are strong and reliable good for farm tracks and can carry 1 ton in weight they are auto box and have good specs I use them daily we don't have ford Transit or great wall in Thailand
It's not as comfy as x, or as practical as y, so I have no clue why they're so popular. Later: I bought this for work, and it's doing a fantastic job. It's a no-brainer.
I have the new one great wall steed turbo diesel 4wd no problems great to drive great on fuel heated front seats. I have lifted mine up 2" looks good. I installed reverse camera. You would think new would have this safety Feature
Pick ups will either fit with someone or they wont. Because of their unique design they have to be able to jump through quite a few hoops to qualify as a daily driver and so for most wont fit this role very well. Thats why so many have had multiple short term owners. But if you are lucky enough to have the money and space for a second vehicle for hobbies then a pick up can be useful. But also consider that the design is improving all the time and in my view the very latest and best just might make a good alternative for the outdoorsy family over the more traditional SUV you see parked in the national trust car park.
What a great review fella no shit no nonsense just a frriginn great review well done !!!!!!!!!!!!! I just love folk that cut the shit out of what they say !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I wonder how far they would get on the Canning Stock Route here in Australia, it's about 1,800 ks long, lots of sand hills, corrugated parts where it shakes your car to pieces, there are around 33 water wells along the track and no help in sight if you breakdown. I'l give it to water well no 2 before turning back before the unthinkable happens. The desert tracks here can make mince meat from poorly manufactured cars / utes / 4x4's and not a nice place to die because of an unreliable car. The Great Wall would be ok on normal roads.
Would love to know from actual users. Takes a certain amount of guts (and lunacy) to take a leap of faith into a new brand in the Australian environment.
I agree with every thing you say here.They were selling these pickups in Israel for a short time with mechanics lined up to service them...i don't know what happened,you don't see them (new ones) any more.The only brand from China is MG and even they are not a'great succes'
Just found your video. I live in Australia and the great wall is quite popular down here. I have the new Steed and totally agree with your video. Why pay more for less.
Have you ever driven a Ford Raptor or a fully loaded F150? I'm not sure if either is sold in the UK but they're on another level compared to this truck
You can buy a Mercedes with Ford raptor price, not a small Mercedes, a loaded e class or GLE. You can buy like 5 of Great Wall with one raptor. Plus, raptor won’t fit most European roads, I know, i tried to drive a Escalade in Paris, had to flat bed it because it gets stuck in a one way street.
Another good video, thansk for the advice on the Range Rover, despite the lack off heater controls Im going in to order a new one tomorrow. It was interstng to hear your opinion on the Great Wall. I have often wondered what they were like, they were quite popular here in NZ the land of the Toyata Hilux, hovere I dont see as many as I did, I believe the Ford Ranger is the top selling Ute here. We have an Amarok which I find to be an excellent car, it is used exclusively as a second car, great on fuel drives great, and really handy for dirt bikes, surf boards etc.
POINTLESS 🤔 what about if you work gundogs? Have you ever smelt the back of a shogun that has carried working dogs for a season? Plus you would have had to have been in the same cockpit you can never get rid of it either, not all double cabs are manual the automatic boxes in the ranger, V6nissans and V6 Amerok are silky smooth plus they can all get a wriggle on.LEG ROOM I drive it so no problem 😉 plenty of room for my kids. Most transit Van's cant tow 3.5 ton or go where any of these trucks will plus BIG downside Every pikey in the southern hemisphere is either waving at you oy trying to nick it! Basically horses for courses I've driven double cabs since the early hilux they suit my lifestyle perfectly GREAT review as I would expect and I agree with some of the comments just thought I would make a case for some of us lads that love em 🤙
Mad thing is I use them for work and you do have a purpose but I actually agree with everything he says not to mention they normally drink fuel as well
Here's the reason the 2 ppl that buy pick ups buy them: Farmers need a good payload capacity and go anywhere ability and the 2nd smaller group, people who work with heavy machines like myself, who also need to go anywhere and 2 JCB Digger's Tyres with the wheels are too heavy and tall for a van
The new 2022 version is is a good upgrade 105kW 6 speed turbo diesel upgraded safety features for half the price of a Toyota... Another 10 years Chinese cars will be at the top of the list.
It would apppear that imports have stopped in 2016, still a few dealers listing used examples. The reason given is post 2016 emmissions and no new diesel engine, I find this odd because the Steed is still sold new in other EU countries with a dual fuel lpg 2.4 petrol engine(125bhp) as well as a diesel.
