@@user-tb7rn1il3q AWD would be nice but. I would take a na v6 over a turbo 4 CVT and that seems to be the way a lot of cars are going, especially non premium cars. So that's why I said I'm happy they have a V6 still, for us car Enthusiast out there this will still be a car that people want to buy when it’s 10/15 years old
I have the Avalon TRD. Or as my friends say TuRD. Haha. Love mine. A little growl, better suspension, and sporty look. Keeps Toyota reliability I’ve come to appreciate.
I love the TRD too. They were smart to have the basic setup here. Cause if they strap all the added cost onto the XSE? Then it would just be a FWD Lexus. Yeah, it is all "bolt on" but in factory and like this makes it a price people who have an interest in it would actually buy.
@@crazyman5520 Oh, that is what I mean. If it was done like with these complaints with having an XSE v6 with all the TRD stuff? That is in the 50k price range. At which point you could just get a good AWD Lexus. More than an IS, and nearing RC money at that point. It would still sell, but not do is intent of attracting and being obtainable to younger buyers like myself. It just wouldnt be worth the money anymore at those prices but still FWD. Getting into BMW and Mercedes. For cost of a TRD done up XSE V6? I could spend just a little bit more and pick up a Mercedes AMG A 35 with a Dual clutch, AWD powertrain. This is what I feel was not considered when placing the complaints. Camry TRD is a marketing car, to attract buyers. Performance at good money. But to try and be an upgraded XSE? Well, it would have opposite effect and be quite inferior on paper vs competition
I’m so impressed with your work and honesty your reviews are unbiased and really there for the help of the public to make good decisions. You always mention all pros and cons of every issue either reviewing a vehicle or fixing a vehicle regardless of your affiliation to the car brand you work for, it’s very hard now to find someone with your values and work ethics. Keep up the great work.
I have a 2021 TRD and I love it! Look do your research, if you want comfort and amenities this is not the car for you. I prefer upgraded suspension, larger front brakes and a body kit rather than heated seats, a sun roof and whatever other amenities are available. I came from a base 2010 camry so I never had the amenities to begin with. The car cost about 35k so it will be stripped down. I would like a camry with manual transmission more horse power, rear wheel drive and all the bells and whistles but that would be 60k. Or a Lexus. Love it for what it is not for what you want it to be.
The thing is that the TRD should have been more differentiated that regular models in the sense that it has better almost everything, but we got a stripped down same engine same power car with slightly better handling and bigger brakes. Yes being the cheapest V6 Camry reflects that it will have some major options missing, but again we wanted it to be something better something that made you go wow instead of "meh.."
@@Mrwaffleandmilk had an e30 3 series which is my favorite model. maintenance costs. I didn't want to buy a used 3 series. New 2021 3 series is over 35k
I've got to say, that interior is right up my alley especially if it costs less. No heated seats or steering wheel? Sign me up! Less crap that can break. My 4Runner has none of that stuff, and I don't miss it! Pretty much every complaint about the interior was a plus for me. The only thing that would bug me is the single dome light in the center of the roof. Having even just simple lights up front high up is actually really good.
I don’t know why you wouldn’t want these options in a Toyota product? I have over 230,000 miles on my 2009 Camry and all of my power options still work perfect. Radio, Heated Seats, Sunroof, Power seats, Auto Headlights. It’s a Toyota not a GM!
@@muscleeveryday Besides me just not wanting it because of the (potentially) remote chance that it'll break, it's also the case that I NEVER WANTED TO SPEND MONEY ON ALL THAT STUFF TO BEGIN WITH!!! Give me Toyota reliability in a less fancy radio, non-heated seats, no sunroof, non-power adjustable seats, and standard headlights, all of this not costing nearly as much to begin with!
@@muscleeveryday because not everyone wants all the extra bs and not everyone needs it …. I have a 18 Highlander LE v6 awd so I have no horse in this race but I love that some people still like simplicity… I don’t have all that extra shit either and I’m doing just fine 😉.
My most exciting memories of TRD are from the early to mid 2000's when they made superchargers, factory equipped and add-on. Supercharged Camry, Solara, Corolla, Tundra. Not sure why they stopped doing engine mods.
Sad: This car could have truly been a trd car that one could track or auto cross on the weekend and drive all week. The lack of options are actually a correct decision for a performance car. If they reprogramed the transmission for more performance, and added a limited slip diff, this would have been a great car.
@@johnnybravo5044 I bet you're young. A light headliner makes the space feel bigger. That's why the great majority of headliners are light. Do you paint the ceiling in your house black?
One thing to keep in mind with the TRD is that it has bracing behind the backseat to stiffen up the body when the car is driven aggressively. That is a good feature along with the bigger brakes. If that is important to a person buying the car, I would take that over having the rear seats fold down like in other models of the Camry. It’s important to think about how you plan to use the car before you decide on it. This car in the future I believe will become important to “tuners”.
I bought a LIGHTLY (8,000KM) used red 2020 TRD in JAN, 2021 and the one I bought had many options this one doesn't have, also I paid below market value ($31,500 CAD) compared to ones that didn't have the upgraded options, just to let people know you can get this car with; 3-level heated front seats, rear climate control + vents, larger infotainment screens, dual-zone & automatic climate control. I daily drive the shit out of mine and it has treated me very well for 50,000km so far. The black roof/mirror paint is actually metallic and sheens purple/blue in the sunlight and it is GORGEOUS after a detail. I test drove the Accord and V6 Chargers and in my opinion this car is FAR SUPERIOR for overall build/finish quality, value, reliability, appearance, uniqueness and ride quality. It burns rubber for several seconds and really puts down the power quicker than you would expect (YES EVEN THOUGH ITS "FUN WHEEL DRIVE"). I HIGHLY recommend purchasing this car if you want a daily you're excited to hop into every morning.
In my opinion instead of coming out with a “TRD” they should’ve brought back the base SE V6 to compete with the accord 2.0.. I always hated the TRD until recently that it’s starting to grow on me.. but I just see it as a missed opportunity to make a perfect sleeper
Back then, a V6 XSE wasn’t available. That’s why now you only have a V6 in an XSE and i4 in the SE. If we put a V6 into an SE that would hurt the XSE sales
@@danielchampion2982 I know but instead of ricing it out just leave it like a regular se 4 cylinder but with the V6🤤 they used to do that back in the 2000s. They had a LE V6 and SE V6. The last SE V6 came out in 2014. IMO this was the best gen to make a LE V6 and SE V6 since it’s the last can’t with a V6 and the looks.. just imagine the current base models with a V6
I almost ordered this vehicle but "settled" for the Camry XSE. Good review as always. I'm always impressed with how honest you are and though no human is perfect your Christ like demeanor comes across in all of your reviews.
I could dis agree with you more on the exterior. I love the looks of the 2-tone paint but I don't like the blue of this car. I love the body kit, exhaust tips, bigger brakes, and lower suspension. My biggest complaint is that the TRD Camry didn't have a 6MT option, now that would be amazing. I like the seat without full leather, I'm not a leather fan and I've never felt the need for heated and cooled seats. Upgrading the stereo is easy to get even better than OEM. I like that it simpler and you get the performance without the fluff. If you want the fluff get the XSE, if you want better brakes, suspension, and looks, get the TRD Camry. The other options are available, just give me a 6MT in place of the slush box 8AT.
I love Ahmed , but I disagree with his assessment, although only slightly. It is not a true TRD but it is what it is. Doesn't have near as much fluff as the XSE. Especially The i-4 model; I mean FAKE EXHAUST TIPS, REALLY? Anyhow it seems as though he does not like this comment but it holds some substance. FACTS
Ahmed, Great news ! Several months ago a tabled to you about my 2016 Camry. It was totaled in August . My wife and I walked away unscratched. At that time there were no new Toyotas i wanted available so we bought a Honda CRV. We didnt like the CRV at all. Yesterday I was able to score a 2022 Venza . Finally back in a Toyota and an AWD Hybrid to boot ! We are very happy and with todays crazy used car prices I got 2 thousand more fro the CRV than we paid for it. AND we got the Venza at sticker with no additional "market adjustment" . Again thanks for the videos you put out and all the information you provide us !
Remember when I took my Lexus IS350 in for an oil change, the sales representative tried to get me in a 2022 Camry TRD. I was not impressed at all. My Lexus V6 felt alot better the Camry TRD. Response, handling and my 8 speed transmission just Responded alot better. Looks good...That's it..
Test drove the TRD when it came out, if I was 20 again the no frills and sport ride would have worked to save the coin. Test drove a v6 xse and it was night and day. Ended up with an Avalon touring which was 5k cheaper as a last year model and got a hud, heated/ventilated front seats, heated steering wheel, heated rear seats… look at the Avalon before it goes away.
Great review. I was interested in the XSE but now I want an XLE for the better ride. The tires on the XLE have a bigger side wall, and I don't care about stiff suspension.
I have a 2018 xse and I hate it. I get a flat every other week. I would not recommend it. It doesn’t go good with potholes. Terrible wish I would not of got it sucks has the 19 inch rims don’t get if you ask me.
It could definitely use some more power, but the TRD exhaust is really nice in my opinion and it handles like a dream. I love the sport suspension and I wouldn't get a different car, I was gonna get a used Mustang when I realized gas wasn't going to stop going up so I got the Camry TRD. Fun car to drive, I understand why other people might not want one but it is perfect for me
I've loved every Toyota I ever bought...base models, high-end models. If you enjoy your Toyota, you got it right. Reviews are nice for information, but in the end, it's what YOU want...not everybody else. Enjoy yer ride 🙂
I think this guy is very observant and has a good review. Saying he wasn't bias though it bled through every sentence he spoke. It's a TRD. So it's Toyota version of a sporty family car. Now the steering wheel doesn't heat up the seats don't heat or have air, there's no arm rest in the back. You have no option for a sunroof, and it lacks button o navigating only when connected to the phone which is always the case. So I live in Florida and I don't need the heated anything. I'm pretty comfortable with the car. It looks sharp. Has pick up and goes. It's as reliable as it gets. I get plenty comments. I've had a 745 BMW a 545 BMW those cars were sold but depreciated so fast and became so expensive to repair. There is really no need for anything more in this car. I had sunroof and moonroofs on like 5 cars I owned and never used them. If you in a car that is fast and meant to take corners with a low center of gravity like the new Camry TRD you don't want a roof that when you flip the car you get a hair cut. And as far as the back seat arm rest. I believe they tightened up the skelton in the rear of the Camry for better handling. It's a mid size sporty family sedan. What else do you really need. I upgraded my stereo with focal highs mids and rear door and through a alpine 12 in the trunk. I put a so under the seat and the cars worth what it cost by far. P.S. to anyone who has this car. The Maps button does work BTW using Android Audio. I placed a magnet to hold the galaxy z 3 fold open and it has a navigation on the car screen. So that was bullshit. The cars sleek and excellently especially priced under 40,000.
Great review. I love my TRD bought it late 2019 50K miles later don’t regret my decision it suits me for what I enjoy in a drive. Stylish car and has good performance and very reliable. It’s a win win no matter what Camry you choose.
I think the body kit and huge spoiler they put on the TRD really detract from the looks. Even worse it has no extra power over the xse and all those cosmetic mods are just rice now. Xse is the way to go for this car.
@@dieseldouche7735 I understand your point but the TRD isn’t for everyone to me I love the look of it looks far more aggressive to me. The main difference is the TRD is less practical because the back seat don’t fold down. Also depending how you spec the XSE TRD has far less options I know mine does I got a 2020 TRD no blind side monitoring, ambient lighting etc etc lol but for me I just wanted the TRD because of the name, the looks and the sound which came stock from factory. Can’t deny the suspension and brake upgrades those do give it a slight edge but straight out the box can’t go wrong either way it’s all about what you prefer.
You forgot to mention that the TRD Camry is the only Camry to have fixed back seats that sit on a big metal bar and no sunroof because it was to help it be more stable around the corners!
So TRD version of Camrys an appearance emphasis ‘boy racer’ version of the Camry. For some, the look is EVERYTHING! It’d be way nicer if the TRD version was really faster / serious vs other Camry’s, but on the other hand, the buyer still gets the bullet proof capability of the base Camry, I guess. Some folks simply LOVE the beautiful face!!! Thanks for the look!!
SPOILER ALERT!!!! AMD is not a big fan of the spoiler😁 Toyota may never send AMD another car to review but this video proves he is on our side. BTW I think Toyota's answer to the Plymouth Road Runner is fair value as long as you know what you are giving up for the discounted V6 price.
The only perks I see in the TRD option package are the following: Upgraded brakes and suspension, 19 inch tire package, stiffer body bracing in a couple of areas and a nice exhaust note over other V6 Camry's.
Should’ve bought one in Fall 2020-they seemingly couldn’t give away the LE Hybrids then, and they were knocking $5K off MSRP. I got mine for $27.2K out the door, taxes, delivery fee, and tags included.
@@konradhittner4668 You got a good deal. I remembered when pandemic starts they sell this 2019-20 LE for $23, and Corolla SE for $18500…..I guess now I need to wait until shortage is over.
All of these reasons are literally why I got my XSE V6 with the tech package. I wanted all the bells and whistles (including red leather interior) without giving up that powertrain. The TRD is neat looking, but too high profile thanks to the spoiler, and is missing so much unfortunately. If you want a track car, get a Type R or get a TLX Type S. Also... I can confirm what he said about the wheels... I've had my XSE V6 for
Also had the 2018 XSE fully optioned with the red interior and I would not have traded it for the TRD either. Best consumer car I had ever driven. Traded her in for a Supra
When gas prices were bottoming out in 2017 the huge local (So Cal) Toyota Dealers were stuck with premium priced Hybrid Camry's for months and their attendant "flooring charge". Came sale time and we came up with what we thought was good lowball starting point. We were shocked when the sale price was $3,000 under our well researched lowball number. Wait it gets better. We found one we liked and said we'll take it-they couldn't find the keys. Someone went to the storage lot and brought another Hybrid to look at. Said they could easily fix the nasty scratch in the door-Pass. They had another Hybrid used for test drives but it contained the upgraded infotainment system. Some manager comes by and says "enough give they that one". Four years + Biden later gas has more then doubled and the 2017 trouble free Toyota Hybrid is getting 40 mpg. According to AMD and Scotty Kilmer this very nice car is good for 300,000+ miles.
The front windows freeze shut all the time due to the up turn by the door mirrors. The gas door also freezes because of the placement and angle of the dangle. The trunk when full open is 1 inch from the rear glass. Sometimes when you get wet snow and temp drop the snow freezes to the trunk lid and contacts the back glass. I swear one day the glass will break on my car because of this design. Also the mid vents above the info screen can't be shut off but the outside vents to keep the side windows clear can be shut off. Toyota got this backwards! Storm conditions require proper direction of air to keep windows clear. This feature is lacking on the new Camry. These aren't the best winter cars on the market. They're great 9 months of the year tho!
The deal breaker on this for me is 300 HP + FWD + an open differential. If they had given this the torque vectoring AWD from the Highlander it would have been truly special. I have an old TLX SH-AWD and the AWD system is amazing. Just needs more tires + suspension to reach its potential.
Absent of a sun roof moon roof is to keep the chassis stiffer and is the only way to get a V6 Camry with out a damn hole in the roof. This car is something different for those few of us that like sedans that don't make sense. Rides firmer, has less ground clearance, looks silly and I would not have it any other way. This is absolutely my favorite Sedan ever.
Easy if you feel old like you then choose the XSE, if you don't feel old and with a sporty touch choose TRD, Look how easy in a few words. My opinion I choose TRD because its aerodynamics are not boring like the XSE. EASY in a few words. 🤷♂️
I'm old enough to remember budget US musclecars like the Roadrunner, GTO Judge etc. But those cars had some beans under the hood to differentiate them from the base models. Still this looks like a really nice ride and I'd love to own one. Great honest review. Thank you for posting it.
During Dec 2019, 2 days after it got on local dealers lot, I bought a black turd for $29k. Early on, it was believed that the turd would be a unicorn like the 86. Last month, that same dealer sold a used turd for $39k. Anyhow, it’s the most grownup car I’ve ever owned (except the boy racer wing). The styling is not for everyone, the front spoiler is problematic, but I’m extremely happy with the turd. Not everyone wants all those options. It’s sort of like the old roadrunners from the 60s. Oh yeah, I’m a retired OG. We do a lot of traveling and get 32mpg @ 85/90mph. One other issue, the front painted surfaces take a beating 🤔. I ask, if you see an old dude come up on you at a high rate, be nice and move outta my way….
Hi AMD! Thanks for the great video and all you do for us loyal Toyota owners. I watch everything you put out there and take notes! I own a 2021 Camry TRD. I thought I would give a few thoughts on it as an owner. First of all, there is no comparison between the TRD and the other Camry models, LE, SE, XSE, etc. This car is unique. I don’t think it was designed as a daily driver. If so, it would have many more creature comforts as you point out. The only potential option in 2021 was a $1,500 upgraded stereo. No thanks. The one that came standard is pretty good. If you are looking for a daily driver, the other models will better serve your purpose. I believe it has too many gadgets as it is. An Economy Mode? Really Toyota? Not in this car please. I bought mine to have some fun with. I drive it in SCCA AutoCross events. I drive it on some major road courses in TNiA events. And, I will drive it in some Time Trials this summer. Am I a racer? No. Is this a Race Car? No, not at all. Is it fun? Yes. I am an Automobile Enthusiast. PROS: Same great Toyota V6. Lowered stance. Tuned Suspension, Larger Brakes, Larger Wheels (Diameter and Width), Stiffened Body with Cross Bracing (Therefore no fold down back seat as you point out so you can’t pick up Curtain Rods at Home Depot), Upgraded Exhaust with a nice note (Who really cares about that for the extra 1 or 2 potential HP increase. Noise doesn’t impress me). CONS: It comes with All Season Radials. Really, Toyota? Biggest mistake on this car. I switched to Michelin Pilot Sport 4S for now. It is worth the $1,300 upgrade. SUMMARY: This car is not my Daily Driver. As a matter of fact it’s in my garage now since last October and I’ll bring it out again in the Spring. As you say, this has an upgraded handling package vs. the other Camry’s and it is fun to drive. I’ve had mine well over 100 MPH and in some pretty aggressive cornering on closed circuit raceways. If you are using this as your daily driver you are not going to be taking advantage of the things Toyota did put in this car. As for looks, you either like it or you don’t. I hope this helped some potential buyers.
It’s a CAMRY meant to be a daily, it’s basically the same as an se trim just with the v6. Handling is barely different. Would rather spend the extra 3-4K for the xse v6. And it would practically perform the same
Hearing all of this I’m honestly glad I got a Camry XLE V6. I like the front grille of the XLE but I also plan on throwing a spoiler & side skirts onto it. One thing I loved about test driving my XLE was all of the comfort & quality of life features that it came with
I also went with the xse v6, the trd suspension and braking is geared more for performance, but I like having the sunroof, all the camera and bells and whistle that are on the xse instead. The ride and suspension are good enough for me as I am not racing.
I bought a LIGHTLY (8,000KM) used red 2020 TRD in JAN, 2021 and the one I bought had many options this one doesn't have, also I paid below market value ($31,500 CAD) compared to ones that didn't have the upgraded options, just to let people know you can get this car with; 3-level heated front seats, rear climate control + vents, larger infotainment screens, dual-zone & automatic climate control. I daily drive the shit out of mine and it has treated me very well for 50,000km so far. The black roof/mirror paint is actually metallic and sheens purple/blue in the sunlight and it is GORGEOUS after a detail. I test drove the Accord and V6 Chargers and in my opinion this car is FAR SUPERIOR for overall build/finish quality, value, reliability, appearance, uniqueness and ride quality. It burns rubber for several seconds and really puts down the power quicker than you would expect (YES EVEN THOUGH ITS "FUN WHEEL DRIVE"). I HIGHLY recommend purchasing this car if you want a daily you're excited to hop into every morning.
I'm really surprised that no one in these comments commented on the fact that the reason why the Camry TRD exist because they are trying to promote Toyota in NASCAR
As an Aussie I remember the Australian Aurian TRD. They wanted to compete with the Ford Falcon XR6 Turbo, but it was a disaster. Apparently they would not pass testing at 245kw, so they dialled it down to 240kw (320hp, cutting it fine). I was talking to a dealer who said they were a disaster and kept suffering catastrophic engine failure on test drives, hence the production run was very short. They put that same engine in the Hilux (Tacoma) TRD, and both these vehicles later made the famous lemon list. The Ford on the other hand had a 4.0 straight 6 called Barra, which has been favourably compared with the legendary Toyota 2JZ, and was in every Falcon Taxi for decades so there are a lot of them about. As they are old school bullet-proof, all Ford needed to do was cams, valves, turbo injectors, fuel pump, exhaust and tuning and the last production model pumped out a reliable 370kw (500hp).
I feel your emotion as if something has tarnished the true meaning of TRD. Thanks for not holding back your criticism. This reminds me that on my 2013 Camry they put in many places to display the MPG, the dedicated gauge, the ECO light, and on the display as well. Yet not a single place to show us drivers the tire pressure in the four tires! Sometimes you have to wonder who made those decisions in Toyota... do they really enjoy driving?
I would buy it if I was capable and would disregard the less options, what matters the most is its special suspension and chassis settings, but I wish if it can take 17" wheels without compromising handling.
Ahmed, thank you for your honest review of the TRD Camry. While it certainly looks good. The big wing was a no go for me. Your right it’s more of an SE with a V6 features wise.
I have a 2021 Toyota Camry SE with the Trd appearance package and I got to say it’s ironically very similar to this car except without V6 engine. That being said, even though I have the smaller engine option, I know that I’ll get better, gas, mileage, and an easier to maintain engine. Great video as always!
I have a 2021 TRD and it’s so much fun to drive. It’s a daily driver and it does good for me. I love it and the Toyota sense 2.5 is a beautiful assets to have while your driving. It’s like having two cars in 1, especially with the ECO mode and SPORT mode. And the car is beautiful to say the least
I'm so glad you made this video! I was thinking hard in trading my 2013 Acura tl sh awd for one of them. It's a shame that Toyota all it does it make little changes and charge a Markup. Thanks agian for the video
Toyota should really listen to its customers and do these simple things: 1) Tune a bump in HP into the TRD & tune the transmission shift poits better. 2) Add a TRD Pro trim that can incorporate all available features as they do in the 4 Runner and Tacoma line. 3) Add the same luxury racing inspired seats from the GR Carola. 4) Add better brakes. 5) Add better tires even if as an optional add on. 6) Add optional features like TRD Cold air intakes and other performance enhancing or even cosmetic enhancing equipment. If you're going to make a sedan with the TRD name, then actually make it feel and look worthy of the name, not just a cosmetic package.
I think for a 20s to 30s person, it's probably ok (although expensive). If you are older and don't want to be racing at every traffic light, you're probably better off with a subdued XSE. It's a shame that those ground effects and spoiler elements will look tacky in just a few more short years (they look tacky now actually), unless the owner decides to preserve the newness and never drive it. I personally did the whole suspension upgrade thing back in 2004 with the Mazda6 (double wishbone upfront and multi link in rear, which the TNG platforms have now in the rear)..mainly a Racing Beat 3/4" drop with linear spring rates, Koni yellow shocks, and thicker front and rear sways. It did handle 'better', meaning it felt different, but it never felt like it was worth the extra money and work that I had spent on the upgrades. And it was more dangerous in the snow or in the rain since it was way more prone to oversteer. That car was fine being left alone, and I imagine the newer Camry is the same way.
I'm in my early 40s and I like the ES350 A LOT. Currently driving a 2017 RX350 but might get a ES as second car once this chip shortage issue gets resolved.
Haven’t watched it yet. Paused it at one second. My guess: TRD is not worth it. Buy the XSE v6 instead for a little more and get dual climate control, sunroof, etc. My 2008 Camry xle v6 was AMAZING until some jerk ran a light and hit my wife (she’s ok now).
I think the point of comparison is a bit off on this video. Take a look at the price difference between the XSE V6 and XSE 4 cylinder. Then take a look at the price difference between the TRD and SE 4 cylinder. Notice any similarities? So yes, TRD doesn't have a tone of features but neither does the SE 4 cylinder. With the price difference, what you are getting is the V6, track tuned suspension, lowering spring, exhaust changes, less body roll, etc. The rear seat being fixed is to add stiffness. So from that perspective, TRD isn't really designed to have all the creature comfort of higher trim models and is not priced as a higher trim model. It looks like a lower trim model because it is priced like one + V6 upgrade. So it's a fair price for the correct buyer. I do understand the point the TRD is probably not the right car for most people because it might be too stiff, too low, and sacrifices too much in convenience like not having fold down rear seats.
Good way to get a V6 Camry at a cheaper price, but I would rather just fork over the money for an XLE V6. I like my 2021 Venza because it is elegant looking but has enough power to be a sleeper. I don't see the appeal of making a car look like a Fast and Furious movie just because it has more performance. Even the XSE Camry is pushing it for me. I really like the elegant look of the XLE model.
@@mcr5645 I also like the V6 Venzas - they're sweet looking, especially with the large 5-spoke wheels. The only thing I don't like about the Venza is the location of the transmission shifter - it's on the dash which makes it look like a mini-van. I have a 2011 Camry SE V6 and often use the S-shift mode to limit the gear range, so having to constantly reach towards the dash would be very annoying.
I love that I can beat one of these 0-60 in my RAV4 Prime. LOL I also must say, I love the looks of the new Camrys. Thanks, as always, for your honest review!
Camry TRD hella caught my eye with it's v6 and bulletproof 8speed trans., but after more research I fell in love with the Avalon Touring, same drivetrain but much smoother ride & more usable trunk.
Agree with your review but...all said, the Camry TRD is a better vehicle than the equally striper Honda Civic Si with half the engine displacement. Bulletproof V6, solid auto but not a dual clutch, good handling and nice styling. A good car. You point out that the XSE maybe the better car you make compelling reasons for. I would like heated seats of course and no ugly boy racer spoiler so our taste maybe similar choosing the XSE. Now my take as an automotive engineer. Skip the Camry. Buy a barely used 2019 or newer ES350 which is a superior car all the way around in terms of sound deadening, appointments...a more refined car with higher grade parts...same engine and trans. For $40K you can buy a barely used ES350 or if you must have RWD, get the IS350. Same company but with the Lexus name on it. The thing Toyota and Lexus has all over other brands is their reliaiblity....especially with the V6 when many are going to more rattley turbo 4's that are prone to failure at lower mileage.
I'm contemplating trading in my 2020 civic si for this 2022 TRD. I've only had it since June 2021. The si is a zippy car no doubt, but an extra 100hp is better. Although the si has sun roof, heated seat and fog lights, which the TRD doesn't.
*instead of buying a new Toyota Camry TRD , just buy a slightly used Lexus IS350, TRD Camry would be great if it came with a OEM factory super-charger and AWD*
TRD is fine. For goodness sake it costs $31K - what do you expect for this price? It is a nice car, made for frugal buyer, with reliable engine, good transmission and it looks sporty.
This is perfect and I think toyota nailed it! I'd take the reliable v6, brake upgrade, suspension upgrade, with factory trd mod accessories vs having any of the interior options for the price point anyway.
All this options are a deal breaker for me. Sunroof is the major option for me, so I won’t buy a TRD Camry. However, I will get the TRD Avalon because it does offer a sunroof.
As refreshing as your honesty is I am surprised that Toyota doesn't have a problem with your honesty. And that doesn't just apply to this video but all your videos.
It's interesting to see people complain about there not being an option for a sunroof. Well, my Mazda CX9 and Hyundai Sonata Limited both have sunroofs. Both leaked because the seals wore out. The sunroof repair guy I used told me that the seals should be inspected EVERY year. Hmm, was never told that nor does it say that in ANY owner's manual I've ever read. On the CX9, the sunroof drainage tubes on the driver's side clogged up. With the leaking seals and the clogged drainage tube, the water drained into the driver's side kick panel where the BCM is located. It got water damage and that repair was over $1K. So, I'm not that big of a fan of sunroofs, loosing the headroom is bad enough but actually cleaning the drainage tubes, which should be done regularly is just another hassle I can live without. I appreciate the candor and will be looking at both the TRD and the XSE with proper upgrades. V6 all the way as the turbos are just another thing to break.
I love my toyotas having a 98 Lexus GS300 with a 2jzgte vvti engine swap and a 06 Sienna xle. Toyota doesn't do sporty very well but I love there reliability and engineering.
The color is brilliant though. I'd buy it for that alone. As a mechanic you should have noted that with fewer options that's less stuff that could break down.
I love how you Take Toyota to task, They really need to hear this. Only Thing i can think of is, Toyota didn't want to Cannibalize XSE/Lexus IS350 Sales.
I have the base model. For the money I’m paying I love it. It’s not perfect but it’s close. I’m coming from a Toyota Tacoma 2017. It was super uncomfortable compared to the Camry.
I loved mine when i had it. Not only was it fast enough to be fun, it was reliable, safe, and I got great gas mileage. On top of that, it sounded nice, i got a lot of looks, and it was nice having a car not everyone had (when i drove mine, i would only see maybe 1 or 2 trds in a month LOL)
I'm heading off to Florida. I've had it with the cold! I'm driving down in a 2002 Acura RsX rollerskate. Last time was in a 2019 Suburban 1500 4x4. Got 30.3 mpg at 65-70 thru Georgia. Dropped to 27mpg in Florida. I'm lite footed lol
I never would have guessed that Toyota would do something like this with their TRD badge. Thank you for sharing this. I just never think of a Camry as a 'Sporty Car'. I think of the Camry as a Sleeper Fast Car. We still have our 2007 XLE Camry and it is quite fast.
It’s good to know bro👍before I bought my Toyota Camry xse 2021,I consider the TRD but it’s good thing that change my mind.I’m so happy with my batmobile right now.keep up the good work man🙏👍👏
great video, and thanks for the upload! I also love how you straight up let us know the good and especially the bad. I really appreciate that from you and it gives you a lot of respect and credibility! Keep up the amazing work good sir!
As a TRD camry owner it all depends on what you're looking for. Im a younger guy car guy with a kid so i need the space yet want something sporty. As a car guy im going to modify the car to get better performance. So giving up creature comforts for better suspension, wheels, brakes and aero i dont have to buy separately for a XSE is a better option for me in the long run. Someone who isnt into modding cars would probably just get the XSE for the comforts. Which makes since. If im going to do all those mods and buy a 40k XSE and option TRD stuff along with it lets say 42k+ i definitely would just hold on to my money skip that all together and buy something more worth the price like a lexus IS350, mustang GT, charger R/T, type R, GR corolla, Elantra N etc. Tinkering gear heads - TRD. comfortable daily driver couldn't care less about anything else - XSE. Toyota doesn't have any Performance type cars in the 35k segment, goes from GR86(close to the same price) then skips to GR corolla which you can't find under 40k, and where not gonna talk about the 50k Supra. It a gap filler performance...........like car, with a good starting canvice. Don't need to buy exhaust, wheels, areo, brakes, or swaybars. From the jump, maybe tires because the stock ones aren't great. I came from a 2017 mustang GT base model, which was more expensive then the TRD which had full cloth seats, bland interior, smaller screen in between the gauges, way smaller non touch screen infotainment, and no safety features. No BSM, no addaptive cruise, etc. so the interior was a bit of an upgrade for me. You can't miss what you never had. Only those who have generally had a fully loaded interiors would miss it. Great video though.
TRD Camry is the lowest priced V6 Camry. You get TRD parts, TRD exhaust, TRD suspension, TRD wheels, and TRD gauge cluster, TRD headsets, and more. If you want more weight/luxury options buy a XSE V6. The reason they made a TRD Camry is to make it fun and the cheapest way to get into a V6 Camry!
I love the review and the honesty of what you would like for the TRD to be, but I feel like a lot of people who would be interested in the “cheap v6” would rather have the suspension, extra bracing and good brakes than a sunroof and heated seats. Thats just my opinion and what I would look for in a performance oriented vehicle. Thats just my opinion. I do like how you go over everything, but I think Toyota nailed it on this one.
Still the cheapest V6 camry....TRD is a sport/suspension focus, looking for the younger more fun focused group, instead of aiming for the boomer that bought it for it's reliable V6 and more luxury options like a 37,000 XLE or XSE. A buyer here will likely cusomize anyway, so no point in making a nice stereo when it's likely planned to be replaced with a Kenwood. I like this car, good body kit, fast and reliable...and 5k less than the any other V6 Camry. Cool seatbelts too...I mean why not?
I like the XSE more after this. I did not think this would be the case. The best would have been to have a stiffer car and setting, slightly lowered XSE with a few upgrades more. The TRD brake calipers, the wheels and the shift knob. I’d rather have the XSE interior with a TRD cluster and the XSE display. Overall you will not go wrong with this drivetrain. Sometimes I wish that Toyota would be more like Audi, BMW and Mercedes-Benz with the great personal preference possibilities there are, but then again not. Were that to happen the production process would not be as rational and it would also make the production more costly. A less rational and obviously less standardized way of production would ultimately take its toll on the build quality and the overall quality of the brand or lead to way higher prices. Thanks for yet another great video! 😊
I bought a '21 TRD with the big screen JBL system at MY closeout. It's more than I hoped for in the handling department. Not sure if it was mentioned, but unique to the TRD is thicker front/rear anti-roll bars that make for surprisingly flat cornering at any speed. Also TRD retuned brake master cylinder for a firmer pedal and it has a brake biased limited slip diff that works but will slow the car slightly on WOT at corner exit. Otherwise, they did a remarkable job with chassis tuning helped by the V-brace behind the rear seatback. I installed an AEM CAI and D3 93 tune with True Manual Mode that transformed the car. It now holds gear making for a more predictable, better controlled and grin inducing drive. The D3 tune was worth the TMM alone. The 330 hp dyno chart on the D3 site shows a fatter mid and especially high rpm bump that is the closest I've felt to a VTEC surge in a Toyota. Note that only TRD buyers can choose either all season or exclusive summer Bridgestone Potenza RE-050 tires for no upcharge. I got the RE-050's and they stick with their 140 treadwear rating but still ride nicely and are wearing well considering what they've been through. A bargain upgrade since they cost about $440 each at Tire Rack. Resale on these things is ridiculous. Low mileage '21's like mine are going for $38K-$44K around here, $10K more than I paid, but I'm not selling. It's a sleeper (except for the spoiler that I've convinced myself looks okay) and I thoroughly enjoy overtaking German sports sedans at track days but they don't and asked me not to return, heh. Nice review CCN, I like your style. We can agree to disagree. I think TRD Camry will age well and hold value as we're forced into EV's soon.
Thank you AMD. Totally agreed with you. It needs to be 400 HP 350torque AND AWD TORQUE Vectoring! 12” screen with 360 degree view and 16 speakers and with subwoofer. 21” wheel with real Brembo brakes. Also with air suspension. The price can elevate to 40K with all what mention.
When Marty and Doc showed us a future of flying cars back in 1985, we get an alternate future of riced out cars in 2020+ with weak ass oem turbocharged engines and funny paint jobs🤦🏼♀️🤦🏿♀️😭😂
The TRD is a flashy looking SE V6.. It is world's apart when it comes to the luxury comfort features that are found on the XSE and XLE.. HAS ANYONE EVER SEEN ONE THAT HAS THE HOMELINK AND REAR VIEW DIMMING MIRROR?? I HAVEN'T ...
