Brilliant analogy, you said it though you can pull up to any fancy place in he range but the the LC you can get stuck in. I'll be scared to go to my farm in a range rover I'll have to start looking for a pickup 🤣 but with the LC you just get on with it.
I think you just have to look at the stats on how many of the cars- Landcruiser vs Land Rover reach say 250-400K. I think you will then see the difference. As you said you buy into a brand and if you've done your research you know what will break and compensate for that if you love its flaws. If generally you want reliability then get a toyota- bland yes but being built like an appliance is not all bad. When you think that the average person only drives 100km or more 3% of the time and we use our cars on average 4% of the day < 60 mins. Why the hell do some manufacturers make them break down soo damn much!!!. If it was a refrigerator used 24/7 I would go back to salting my meat and save the expense of constant repairs. Hence why an appliance philosophy can better serve some car buyers in the long run.
Sub £12k VW Touareg (V6) diesel is another contender for the 4x4 / SUV choice. Often overlooked by many but it would be interesting to see what you make of it...
@Ted Carruthers have you had a bad experience with them? Trying to decide between one of these or a disco 4 for next year... What's expensive to fix on them etc.
Exactly what my wife bought, A 2012 V6 Touareg for just £9700. 131.000 motorway miles, 2 owners from new, now she is the third. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder and after all, the must be some German reliability in the Touareg. Now sitting on 142,000 miles, and averaging 39 MPG, So not much wrong with it.
The Landcruiser is legendary in Australia, we particularly love the diesel models, we love the reliability and longevity and the economy of these 4x4s.
My dad owned a 2006 100 series V8 (in Australia) for about 8 years, did 170,000km and the only thing that went were a flat battery and a flat tyre. It was an absolute beast and was stopped by nothing.
Unfortunately, a number of inaccuracies in this review. Nothing against the guy in the video, but prospective buyers might find the following information useful; There is no air suspension. The AHC suspension comprises coil sprinngs, hydraulics and nitrogen spheres. With AHC the Amazon handles extremely well. The test vehicle was clumsy because the AHC had been replaced by coils springs, without replacing the various items (anti-roll bars etc.) which are designed to work properly only with the AHC (which incorporates electronically controlled anti-roll, anti-dive, anti-squat springing and damping features). The 100 series Amazon was replaced by the full-size 200 series, which was sold in the UK (badged " Land Cruiser V8")until 2015. The Amazon is smaller than the current Range Rover. It therefore be hard to consider it to be too big for the UK. Timing belts on the Amazon are twice as wide as they are on european cars (including Range Rovers). The only reason for it jumping teeth would be that it wasn't replaced until way past the correct interval (all timing belts stretch eventually, Land Cruiser belts later than perhaps any other car). The video is right, however, about the AHC going wrong eventually (all things do, with time) and it can be expensive to fix. Replacing it with steel-only suspension is a good economy measure, but the vehicle drives and handles significantly less well as a result.
The AHC normally doesn’t break it only needs the seals to be replace and the hydraulic fluid to be replaced. Most people haven’t worked with it so they don’t know, they just assume it’s like air suspension and get rid of the whole system.
Lol " Japan takes an idea from the west and improves on it.." Have you look at the shit America makes???? The whole automotive industry needs innovation and improvements. I would never buy an American brand car...
Can't agree more. Infact Japanese automakers have sent many western brands back to their drawing boards. Honda NSX, Toyota Supra are few examples. And Toyota's production process KANBAN. The world uses it.
I’m an American and I’d agree. As much as I love my country and local businesses, I’d never buy an American car. These guys are idiots and don’t know what they’re doing. All they care about is short term profit.
You have to own a diesel 100 series cruiser to really appreciate how awesome they are for quality and reliability. Not too many 4x4s out there would go 15 years and still be going strong and looking great even through the toughest treatment.
I'm in Australia and have owned both the 4.7 Lt V8 and the 4.2 Lt straight 6 diesel 100 series landcruisers. The first one being the top of the line GXV with the 4.7 Lt petrol V8. It did a total of 520,000 km before I sold it for $15,000 Aus. The only thing that I repaired on it was a starter motor and a alternator. It never used any oil , even right up to the date of sale. The 2nd landcruiser that I bought was a 2002 GXV with the 4.2 Lt diesel. That one had clocked up 645,000 km before I sold it for $30,000 aus , and without major repairs, only a timing sensor. I now have another 100 series diesel GXL with the 4.2 Lt diesel turbo , 2005 , that is up to 300,000 km and no repairs. Not even a alternator or starter motor. Just tyres and one set of brake pads, and a battery. These 100 series are bullet proof and are increasing in value. The last time I checked, they were bringing anywhere from $45,000 to $65,000 , and rare as hens teeth. They sold new for $75,000 (GXL turbo diesel auto) and the aftermarket boys are achieving over 200 kW and 800 NM of torque, using bigger turbos and aftercoolers, without any detriment to drivetrain reliability. These turbo diesel landcruisers , IMHO will be worth over $100,000 in the near future. By the way. You made a couple of mistakes in your review. The petrol V8 you were driving was a 4 speed auto, and not a 5 speed. The 5 speed came out around 2002 -2003. And the diesel you mentioned is a straight 6 and not a V8. I enjoyed your review BTW
Absolutely love this car. I have the same 4.7l petrol in my 2006 Tundra 4wd (similar platform) and it's brilliant. In fact, there was another Tundra driver that did 1,000,000 miles and still going strong. Toyota actually swapped him a brand new Tundra so that they could take it apart and see what they did right. According to Toyota, these vehicles are built to last 750,000 if properly maintained. The only thing is that I wouldn't drive it in the UK because of petrol being about 3x the price. It is a highly-capable vehicle but very thirsty. I think your description of its issues was a tad unfair. The timing belt needs to be replaced after 100,000 miles and it says so in the owners' manual. If somebody didn't do it, it still took 30,000 miles for it to cause an issue. I don't have air suspension on my Toyota and never have had it on any vehicle, but I hear it often can have issues, regardless of what vehicle it's on. Furthermore, if the timing belt wasn't done then it's unlikely that the suspension was serviced properly either. Also, I'm not talking down Land Rover. I'd have a newer old-style diesel Defender in a heart-beat if I were in the UK but they're expensive here in the US and I don't think they ever imported the four-door one. Love your videos man, keep 'em coming.
Unfortunately they're only as good as the person maintaining them. As you mention, most of the UK ones have serious rust issues, the active height control (hydraulics) often fail, parts are really expensive and there's not a huge amount of garages familiar with them (Vs independent Land Rover specialists). Realistically, a 200k mile LC100 will require thousands of pounds per year to keep it on the road.
Aside from the rust issues that's just not correct. They are extremely robust and require only routine servicing. The hydraulic suspension issue is largely avoided with proper servicing and if required is a one time fix by simply removing it. I have one at 280k miles (since new) and it's been cheaper to maintain than hatchbacks I've had.
@@ln5747Thanks for the response. I'd agree with some of what you said but... 1. You can't sweep the rust factor aside so lightly. It's a bugger, particularly up north where I am. 2. The car is significantly worse without AHC. We got ours redone by a local commercial hydraulics company but it's still time, effort and cash. A normal garage wouldn't touch that. 3. The bits of maintainence they require do add up. 4. A lot of people selling them online now are total cowboys. It's easy to pick up something that's been abused. I absolutely adore ours but here's just a few things we had to fix in the last 2 years: New steering rack, chassis welding, new engine mounts, AHC repair, new AHC fluid, parking brake fix, tailgate repair, 2 new batteries.
@@thesaint8400 I didn't sweep the rust factor aside lightly. The AHC can be repaired pretty cheaply if you find someone who knows what they're doing and it's likely a one-off job. Bits of maintenance add up on all cars. It's been much less on my 100 series than on hatchbacks and estates I've had, heck even a Mini, aside from a Civic which of course was dirt cheap to run. All older cars have cowboys selling them. It's not hard to do research and have them properly checked over, anyone who doesn't do that with any car deserves what they get. Either way, I doubt I'll have another car that will be as reliable and as cheap to run for the amount of abuse it's had and often poor servicing also tbh being a farm/work vehicle.
I dislike any Toyota, but seeing Greta, well inspires me to preserve such an old chunk of steel!😁 Blimey the Land Cruiser is a tank - even in Australia, but they do live long lives. In fact 500kms+ from any Aussie city there are loads of them some older than me!!🤩
Both of my land rovers leaked oil onto the ground and had electrical problems , my 1993 Landcruiser however never had one problem except window motor and blower motor failure after 20 years 🤣!!! Those landrovers only had around 150,000 km on them while my Landcruiser had 600,000 km !!
@@bombardierrecreationalprod1023 I love the 322 Range Rovers, but holy hell every RU-vidr makes them sound like reliability nightmares. I don't mind the higher running costs, but I don't want to be stranded somewhere because my Ranger Rover decided not to move. Things break on cars and have to be replaced. The kind of reliability I care about is going on a trip and having the truck crap out on you.
@@the_useless_photographer Depends on what you want. The sixes and there are four or five of them are all great engines for the purpose they were made for. The V8 is much more modern with common rail injection and computer controlled. A straight six cylinder engine is about the smoothest layout you can have south of a V12. The early sixes, 1PZ and 1HZ were normally aspirated and about as rugged and reliable an engine as it was possible to be. The 1HDT six is similar but turbo charged. The 1HDFT is a turbo with a 24 valve head. My personal favourite because it is the last of the great engines that doesn't need an ECU. The 1HDFTE is like the 1HDFT but computer controlled ECU fly by wire throttle etc. The V8 is a brilliant diesel but for me I would choose the 1HDFT, others would choose the 1HDFTE , some may even want the under powered 1HZ for it's simplicity.
Got this exact model, 1999. Haven't had a single problem in over 6 years of driving. The only thing that's dated is the interior, the exterior is fairly timeless I'd say
I've owned multiple Land Rovers, I've always ended up rebuilding motors, Turbos and R380s after the main shafts go bang. Never had a single mechanical failure with my 80 series or 100 and both Toyota products have accumulated much higher mileage. The drive train of the LC is just simply tougher and more bush proof with heavy industrial use in mind.
@@deathrager2404 Land Rovers aren't that bad. The reliability issues are often more to do with the type of people who own them. My brother has had a few Rangies and they're pretty easy to live with if you stay on top of the maintainence. I love Land Cruisers but I'd take a well maintained L405 over a badly treated LC100.
@@deathrager2404 They're undeniably great bits of kit and more suitable than a Cruiser for 99% of people. Maybe your wife's boyfriend drives one and that's why you're so touchy.
Range Rover is more suitable in europe not outside europe. i heard from friends about in 1980 many timber company from england they get woods from borneo indonesia. at first time they pick land rover series, and they regret it. many land rover series abandoned in jungle at borneo indonesia because they lack supply sparepart, reliability and etc. almost all change to land cruiser fj40 or daihatsu taft or rugger at UK. The price of parts of Land Rover outside UK is very expensive, the parts priced above mercedes or bmw parts price here. meanwhile the parts of landcruiser is more affordable and some of their parts interchangeable with toyota dyna trucks or hino trucks. like brake booster of land cruiser fj100 which price 1500 euro, in indonesia you could use brake booster from hino dutro trucks for $100. thats why toyota rule almost all countries outside europe. its more logically own land rover at europe but not in africa, america or asia
I knew I was sold when you said, "You could just get into this thing and drive to Africa." Driving to Africa is at the top of my to-do list, naturally.;)
The whole Range Rover/land cruiser debate...... there’s a reason it is landcruisers that are used throughout Africa, the Middle East and Australian bush and not range rovers
@@HighPeakAutos Yep. The motors we Canadians wish we had but didn't get because of the US market's low appetite for diesel. The 200 series was the first to get the v8 diesel. The 80 and 100 series mostly had a steady evolution of a 4.2L inline 6. 12 valve, then 24 valve, finally electronically controlled 24 valve with intercooler. Also the 1HZ NA diesel with 12 valves and indirect injection that's still available today in certain markets.
Edward Peters yeah the 4.5l diesel twin turbo is a very powerful and efficient engine i dont know why toyota didnt bring it to the US. its confusing, ford and other american manufacturers sells thousands of trucks with diesel engines and toyota doesnt even offer a diesel engine in all of their cars line up there, but at least toyota has HINO trucks there
I've seen nearly 20 year old landcruisers with high milleage on auto trader going for nearly £10,000!!! You can pick up a more recent S class for less. I can can think of better vehicles to drive for the same money. Good review as always.
The thing is if you bought a landcruiser when you commented on this, you could of driven it 60-100k miles and sold it for at least if not more than you paid for it. An s class would of gone wrong with a silly sensor issues and lost 40% of its value. Plus you'd of known no matter what the weather was doing you'll be alright and safe.
I've had an 80 Series turbo diesel which did 545,000kms on original gear till I sold it for $20,000 at 24 years old, ran like new. It lapped Australia countless times towing a caravan etc. Then had a 105 Series which if you're looking to buy a 100 I'd recommend hunting. The V8 wasn't desirable in Australia for anyone doing dirt roads or remote travel. The 105 was made by Toyota as Frankenstein given the 100 wasn't as tough as the old 80 it replaced and they knew harsh environments would still demand robustness so, they took the chassis and running gear from an 80 Series and put a 100 Series body on it. I had a inline six petrol 105 and she drove around Australia too. Off road into no man's land. 345,000kms she did. The only issue was a failed fuel pump but, Australian Landcruisers have two fuel tanks and pumps for that reason. Push a button and get to safety. $90 and half an hour she was back running.
@@HighPeakAutos we just drove from Perth to Brisbane last week. 5000kms. What makes Australia different is that there is next to nothing in between major cities so it's allot of nothing. Worth a visit mate.
A good and fair equal to Land Rover. I can see Quality in many a Japanese Goods. Prefer RR if in trouble up to ya kneez. COZ A RR will pull you out with out worries
@TheLambo2 I never talk down British products because I have been around! I worked for a MERC garage as a young man and have driven most of the model, all the SL's up to the 450. I have 3 licences covering all vehicle driven over 2 million miles through 17 different countries as a HGV1 44 tonner Driver also had my own business in the motor industry, so I do know what I am talking about compared to other who think they do (NOT) Regards. Al :o)
@Richard Williams Hi Richard, we have two Range Rovers in the family group. one of which is used to full effect, as we live on the South coast we use the old N reg range on the shingle beach in the summer to retrieve speed boats from the sea, I have seen this vehicle up to its sills bogged down in the beach shingle and if by magic with diff locks pushed it just climbs out of trouble as I said above, also this old range has done over 320,000 (original land rover engine) miles and many caravan holidays across the UK. it has had some welding but it is so old, and we expect it to continue for years to come, I LOVE BRIT VEHICLE...
The bull bar is spoiling its looks. I think the doorman of an exclusive hotel would think "heres Lord So and So" in the Land Cruiser instead of a flash g*t in a new Range Rover.
I've had four 100/105 series cruisers (petrol & turbo diesels) between 1998 and 2002 and have to say they have all been underwhelming performers. Low torque, low power and high fuel costs. Super reliable and great resell value, but poor towing.
I love your videos and the simple yet excellent presentation. Nevertheless then and now, there is this sense of bias in your reviews. Automobiles eventually fail. But the time and kms they give up calculates reliability. RR and LC will both have engine issues. But at what point in time?There is no comparison between these two interms of reliability. Luxury, technology, looks-- I give it to RR. But my choice would always remains LC. PS: To me an automobile is a companion or like a brother. RR to me is a gold digger. Sorry but that's how I would like to put it.
Used to have a 2002 Land Cruiser Amazon with the chrome exterior trim, Dark blue with the 4.7 V8 in Pakistan for 10 years. Amazing car before we replaced it with the newer 5.7 V8 Land Cruiser V8 ZX
Now that's much better, just the sort of motor I might want to have as a second car, now I can pop over to auto trader and check out which one I'm not going to buy. Just cut out the seat euro boxes in future, that;s not what we're here for.
It's not an air suspension, it's Citroen licensed hydraulic suspension compensated with nitrogen pressure accumulator. If they replaced or filled the accumulators, it'd be fine= Anyway, it's built to last, but you pay in order for it to last and you pay allot. Costing three times more than a Jeep Limited and consuming about as much as a new Mondeo in maintenance in less than 200.000 miles, it's just an ultra luxury car. A Culinan long before Rolls Royce sat down to design it. Just that. Unfortunately, or fortunately?! It depends. Reliable? No. Expensive? Yes. Should you buy it? No. You should have bought it new. Didn't have the money then. You don't have it now either.
@Ge Tumho I've driven one for 13 years and 270.000 km from new. Check my channel. You have obvious comprehension handicap as I didn't state it's unreliable, it's built to last, but expensive. So expensive that it's equal to unreliable, only that it'll drive you anywhere as long as you pay the bill at the shop frequently enough. This is important to be made publicly known in order to protect peasants like you from buying a car that is too expensive for their income to maintain.
Great vid as always mate. Would love to see a video on a Jeep Grand Cherokee 99-04 model if you ever get the chance. As always down to earth honest content!
This wasn't a review as some others have said. It's your comparison of the rover which only belongs at the dorchester. The problem with that is when the owner of the rover gets in and the tips the top-hatted doorman for holding his/her car, that owner will also be using his vertu phone to call the range rover help line because of a failure of something or other. Here's yet another comparison/review: Since that LC100 you "reviewed" is 16+++ years old, try "reviewing" a 16 year old range rover and telling us how well it's doing, how much the fuel was on there, and how many miles it has. 9/10 the landcruiser will still be working and worth more than the rover. There is a reason that the land cruiser is used by virtually everyone that cares about reliability and not show. The overpriced footballers are not important in our world and our view of cars. After a few years even those footballers lose their prestige and go down the toilet, get bloated, get addicted to drugs (Maradona). The lc wins every time. The only time you should get a range rover is when you get a free car from your company and all maintenence is paid for by them. Even then be ready to drive whichever replacement car the dealership will give you while your range rover is in the shop.
They do rust pretty bad though. They're not without their faults. It wasn't a full on comparison with the RR, but I thought it was worth mentioning. The RR is unfairly used as the benchmark for unreliability.
@@HighPeakAutos The RR is used as the benchmark for unreliability because Range Rover has shown over and over that it is highly unreliable. Once again, please review a 16 year old Range Rover HSE to the Land Cruiser then go ask the umpteen owners of said 16 year old land cruisers that have had the types of problems the range rover has as long as they perform regular maintenence. I've had my rust bucket of a landcruiser 90 since 2000 and have had approximately ZERO issues with it. I even treated it to a brand new head unit and new speakers on its 20th birthday of second-hand ownership
Finally a vehicle with real quality. Not fake quality (land rovers,BMW,MB,Audi,jaguars,VW, Aston Martin, Ferrari, Lamborghini,etc.) The land cruiser is the best vehicle ever made.
I'm a bit of a Land Cruiser nut and this is a really good review, Matt. LC's are strange beasts and you were fair and balanced. Removing the AHC (the hydraulic suspension system) is quite sad as it's insanely good and reliable when maintained. It gives the car a Range Rover type glide and it can often be repaired for a reasonable price. Unfortunately most of the ones for sale in the UK have horrendous rust issues, failed MOTs, the MPG is in Lambo territory and the fact that many owners buy them for long term keeps means a lot of the ones on the market have issues. Like what you said in one of your Rangie vids, they're great if you just keep a few grand tucked away for repairs.
The UZ series engines are some of the most durable engines in modern times. No RR V8 is this durable. Sadly the UR series engines do have gasket issues despite not having the timing belt issues. In the UZ you must do the timing belt periodically. If you buy one used, make sure it’s been done. I do think the 5.0 JLR engine is very good, though. The electrics will leave you crying though after time whereas this won’t.
I would have to disagree, having had both this model Land Cruiser (6 cyl) and two L322 Range Rovers (still have a 2010). Both do well if maintained well, just that the Land Cruiser (and most other Toyotas) have way more tolerances for "deferred" maintenance. I'm part of a Range Rover forum and it is clear, if they're maintained well, they are very reliable. Land Cruiser can also have issues (our LC had several recurring problems that never really got fixed, still no idea why). Oh and we currently have a Toyota Estima as the "family runabout" and that also had some "unexpected" repairs (radiator, alternator) despite being less than 10 yrs old at the time.
@@genieb this is so true. I'm at 330k on my 08 RRS and have had only minor issues with it over the 8 years and 200k I've had it. Alternator, suspension compressor, front struts, lower control arms and the coolant manifold which was $40. I have kept it well maintained, and it has been a very reliable car. I've done loads of outback travel so the front struts I can kind of understand. Rears really need doing too. Meanwhile, because I'm the most mechically and technically minded person in my friends group, I get the calls for advice when their cars stuff up (all Toyota, Nissan and Mitsu 4x4s). One Prado with about 180k km has already had the head replaced (cracked) the transmission rebuilt (radiator failed and allowed a large amount of coolant ingress into the transmission oil cooler) and still has some weird electrical gremlins. Two Tritons with the 2.5L diesel have both had engine replacements for the same fault (block warps at
@@richardgraham7672 interesting to hear your experience on this as well. Japanese cars are good and generally do have a bit more tolerance for neglect but they are NOT perfect by any stretch of the imagination. Maintenance is the great equalizer every single time and even though JLR products do have some weak points, so do the Japanese brands. Nobody talks about the bullet proof Jag 4 liter V8s (NA and supercharged). The 5.0 cam chain tensioner is a f... up but it does seem to affect a very small percentage of the engines only from what I can see. LCs adjustable suspension is notorious for failures for example but that doesn't get half as much press as the RRs suspension (even though the later models, like mine have a very very good suspension set up. No car is perfect and maintenance is key IMHO.
@@MeDicen_Rocha Because they are perfectly usable at the price of 40.000 km OCI's of 72 liters of expensive oils (engine at 10.000 and everything else at 40.000) They brake front differentials. They require 5 new nitrogen pressure accumulators every 8 years or 150.000 km that cost 3.500 pounds without suspension fluid and labor. They consume up to 15-16 liters of diesel on the autobahn and at least the same in city. They are slow. They are too big outside and modest in length inside. Tyres are expensive and last less than 50.000 km. The thing rusts. Valve clearance must be adjusted regularly. (though it rarely shows a valve or two out of spec) Front bearings must be adjusted and greased regularly. Gearbox is crappy, even the 5 speed. It only locks on 4th and 5th gears. Torque is limited below 2000 rpm deliberately. Constant high speed cruising will eventually burn the gearbox. And shred the tyres. Rear differential will leak. Torsion bars must be adjusted. Rear springs (250 pounds per) should be replaced together with pressure accumulators. Rear brakes seize from time to time. Which necessitates replacement of pads and rotors. All pads wear similarly or faster than the tyres. Air filter is expensive. Comes from the factory with no cabin filter. AC compressor clutch will disassemble. Alternator will need rebuild, several times. Headlight bulbs burn. If you rearend a Fiest it will seem that you had a collision with a tank. The turbo charge pipe to the intercooler is plastic and will disintegrate costing a fortune. The headliner will hang on the third year. Fuel system is prone to clogging from the tank up. It makes big difference from gas station to gas station and performance will vary vastly with different fuels and different seasons. Turbocharger will require rebuild, especially the variable geometry. All vacuum hoses will require replacement on pretty young age. According to scheduled maintenance fuel injectors will require rejetting at 150.000 km although no one does it including me. It can snap alternator belts and accessory belt and will do it although checks and replacements. It will improve it's performance at timing belt replacement irrespective whether it's Toyota one or Dayco and the fact that I do it at half intervals. It has two big expensive JIS batteries that will last between 2 and 4 years. Because it will either overcharge them, undercharge them, overheat them or tortures them with the air geater system for up to 90 seconds after cold start. Air condition system is primitive, but with three cirquits, put the cool box in max mode and all the Freon temporarily goes there leaving the other two systems empty for several minutes. No catalog on earth has reliable data on how much Freon you have to put in it, they left a glass under the fender to look for bubbles... about 950 grams is alright in case you gave one and it has the same pipe volume... 1350 or whatever is written is overfilling it. The main electrical junction is under the front AC evaporator, so a clogged drainage pours water on it and burns it. Costing 300 pounds without labor. The glass lifter mechanism of the drivers door will disassemble itself - unique amongst my 15 cars. Although it's a DIY job and never repeats after some thread lock. It has less drivers foot length than Skoda Kodiaq, Nissan Quashquai or '16 WV Jetta. Happy first owner for 13 years and 271.000 kilometers. If there is anyting else, I'll be glad to help.
@@PenkillerDIY Good fucking lord... well you got a point there. Normally with Land Cruisers you just hear the "Change the oil and it will run forever" kind of stuff.
@@MeDicen_Rocha it might run forever... I also replaced rear upper control arms and stabiliser bar links as well as front hub bearings. Also, the loose vacuum hoses at 8-9 years cause malfunction of EGR that affects the whole intake and the catalytic convertor due to increased soot. The cleaning is painful and expensive. It's a mountain of a car designed in 1994 (design frozen) and even earlier. For 1994 it is several times more reliable than classmates, but still ridiculous from modern point of view. Driven long enough it will consume an entire Tesla Model X in maintenance and fuel. Have in mind I am a car guy and a hobbyist and I have a very good and knowledgeable mechanic. It's a pain to use this thing. The good part is it only goes to the shop 2-3 times of the year. Most "reliable" 100's are just as reliable as 1969 MB W115 220D automatic. It will start, will move, turn and brake. The list for maintaining a 70's car is endless. Starting with adding oil to the fuel pump, regular piston rings replacements and fuel injectors rejetting. All that is part of the normal maintenance. Opel 30E had 500.000 km warranty in the Senator A1... Under the condition that you replace the timing cover and the oil pump wheels every 60.000 km... (Timing cover is also oil pump housing) And so on, and so on. The 100 is a continuation of that breed of old cars. It should be babied in order to be "reliable". If you had Senator, Omega and Cherokee like me in the past, then you have the habits to baby cars... But it gets old on me now.
Sorry but stupid comments with regards to the reliability. There’s no way you’d have a Range Rover for 17 years and only have issues with the air suspension and timing belt. Let’s not forget of course that it’s also silly to judge a cars reliability on one example.
Great reasoning... A great product for sure and I have owned a few over the years along with other Japanese 4x4s, they are good. However, I still keep coming back to the Land Rovers and Range Rovers... and I honestly cannot complain at all. Right now I have two that are pushing 200,000 and in the last three years one has cost me £50 for a water pump and the other nothing at all except service parts. I understand that many have had issues with certain models... but I do wonder what sort of history they had before. Like anything in life they just need to be cared for.
Sir I've owned a range Rover and also the land cruiser..... It's ridiculous to compare the reliability of the two....rr is probably The worst of roader I've ever owned and I've owned a few
@@HighPeakAutos The Land Cruiser Amazon, and the Range Rover (Not RR Sport) are similar, but different. There are some very reliable RR, and a few LC which are absolute pigs. But to the end of the day, it's more about your feeling of living with either of these great vehicles, and where your general habitat is.
I'd be interested to see your review of a used VW Touareg, which had always slotted somewhere between Land Cruiser and Range Rover, while being just as capable offroad.
they most certainly do not slot in any where near the land cruiser or a range rover. a toureg is not designed for off road use. it might be all wheel drive but it is not an off road vehicle at all
@@grantswan8525 With the right tyres, it is no less capable offroad, than Discovery or LandCruiser. There are also plenty of factory and aftermarket accessories, offering the underbody protection, snorkels, etc.
@@trizvanov nonsense. they take substantial modifications to be off road worthy and even then don't come close to the capability of the landcruiser Amazon
@@grantswan8525 Define "capability". You cannot take either 4x4 on a really long and grueling journey without heavy modifications. We aren't talking about military-grade equipment here. For regular off the beaten track adventures, which is what 99.9999% of all people ever do, all of them are perfectly adequate. What helps Touareg and Range Rover is the factory air suspension, where you can bring them up higher than you can with Land Cruiser.
Well, we’ve had Land/Range Rovers, they all had problems. Had Nissan Patrols and now Land Cruisers (Prado)… no problems. I’ll take the Japanese options thanks.
Should You Buy a TOYOTA LANDCRUISER? - yes I 'bloody' would ! Why? Because if London Mayor - Sadiq Khan gets his way and expands the ULEZ to the remaining Outer London Boroughs (where I live), then my lovely Land Rover Defender 2007 Double Cab with only 57K on the clock, will sadly have to go. However, I won't be able to fork out £40K to £60K for the new design featureless lumps of lard - which are the new Defenders. So, as my son repairs Toyotas and swears by them - he has said, "Dad - why don't you get a Land Cruiser Prado"? I discovered that you can pick up a cheap Land Cruiser for around £5K, and if I go for a petrol version (4ltr), around 2003 - then to my surprise, these models are ULEZ compliant - so I won't have to fork our £ tens of thousands and I won't have to pay out the daily charge - should I decide to keep my Land Rover.
Land Cruiser is a different league to Range Rover in terms of reliability and build quality .. Just look at second hand prices of 20 year examples ...... and ask any recovery driver when did he last pick up a Land Cruiser and then ask how many Range Rovers hes had jockeying on the back of his truck ..... Real shame as the Range Rover is a great looking ,comfortable car ......
The V8 petrol engine came from the Toyota Soarer (GT road car) so it wasn’t specifically engineered for remote touring. The I6 diesel non turbo and to lesser extent the I6 turbo engine was. Most people who choose wisely won’t choose the V8 petrol and even the I6 petrol engines for remote touring.
It's a Real Beast you cannot compare the reliability of Toyota land cruiser with a ridiculously expensive Range rover that's a joke. The land cruiser does 500,000 .miles. l owned two Toyota cars Pajero and an Mx5. Alongside an SLK Merc they have easily been the most reliable cars
The analogy was spot on lol. I've owned 62 different cars and trucks and the Landcruisers and Land Rovers have the same niche appeal in the US. Only here the Landcruiser owner will brag about their reliability for supermarket runs over the Landrover. Ultimately resale is where the two differ but Landcruiser owners rarely let them go - the asshole grandchild usually ruins it with mud tires, 3 inch lifts and blaring sounds systems.
Best comment EVER if you ever wondered what it would be like to drive a bungalow! lmfto. My sister in law's partner had a 1980's model which she drove and bumped a low wall coming out of a car park. Put a small dent in the car but the wall was rubble. The thing only revved to about 3K and was more like driving a lorry but hell did it have road presence.
Sounds like this was not maintained properly. If the timing belt was changed at its appropriate interval, and the suspension system was properly services, there would be no issue. Funny thing about cars, if you fail to maintain them, they break, all brands.
I drive a 94 LC here in East Africa. The thing is an absolute tank. Even though there were 3 previous owners the car is almost brand new. The 80 series are unbelievably reliable and most importantly easy to repair vehicles.
Have it as a 2nd weekend fun toy then for camping, fishing, exploring before they remove our freedom altogether. I run a bog dirt cheap focus in the week for shopping and work ect
Land rovers are statistically unreliable..that's the different between you who trades with cars(with all due respect)and Doug Demuro who was talking about his daily driver-Range Rover and the smartest deal of his career-buying a"bumper to bumper" warranty..(i'm sure you've seen him on youtube)
One trick pony it may be but it does what it says on the tin and more, the Range Rover "alas" tries to do all things well until it breaks....and it will frequently, its come away from what it was designed to be and stuffed full of dubious quality electronics and appalling trim sagging roof linings leaking sun roofs the list is endless. Ive had both over the last thirty years and if you are truthfull with yourself there is a reason why a Rangy is always the but of jokes and ridicule its because it is subjected to to many changes and upgrades before the last models problems are ironed out. Toyota for me I just want the best, a car that starts when I turn the key.
btw this is the worst sound i have ever heard in your LC maybe bebecasue of being patrol otherwise toyota diesel engines are the pleasure to hear. the strok sound they make is like a listining flute, living here in denmark having trasport firm, using vans fiat, fords, renault, rubbish quality, whenever i go back to my country heavily dominated by toyotas whenever i listen non turbo hiace japnese model they are simply awsome. europeans can never understand this machine until you put this into hard conditions
I'm an Israeli.In the U.S the prado is not sold.It is there as a Lexus 4.7 litre(i think).It has minor changes from the prado(it looks a 'little fatter' and wares a few more 'bells and whistles' that are not on the 'european' prado
Small European roads hahaha In Sweden, no it is fine to own and drive one without any problems, but there are developing countries in the world that have small roads and drive on the wrong side We don't live in a perfect world but there are countries that make range rover too and think it is good car.
we've owned a land Cruiser Colorado 2002 J95 series that I picked up brand new in April 2003. We part chopped a bit older Maverick 5 door with a TDi 2.7 diesel engine in it. My wife is meticulous keeping any car she has in good nick and we got a very good price against the Land Cruiser. The difference in the two vehicles was spectacular and the drive home to Nottingham from Chesterfield was like driving a 'Rolls Royce'. As soon as I get hold of a new purchase whatever it is I lather the new project in waxoil to keep britains wet weather of the steel and even aluminium. Our weather rots any thing if given the slightest chance..... I was appalled to find an inch and a half of steel not covered in the new plastic underbody sealant on both rear wheel arches near the outer part of ther inner steel wings. This was wire brushed and rust treated before roof polyurethane primer which will stick to even bitumen and then two coats of the new type roofing 'plastic'. It's tough and flexible and similar to 'modern' cars underseal. Lately two injectors are faulty and are being replaced right now. Getting one of them is very difficult so there might be a run on them due to it being perhaps one of the few faults land Cruisers are susceptible to. I have a great deal of respect for this engine which was one of the first common rails. Thankfully it does not have a particle filter. I'm told though and you can see it on you tube that the innards could be removed if you had one and then tig the hole up with a plate that would look like a manufacturer job. Some one said they fail the emissions though straight away after doing that & I kept it a secret by not replying that ---not if you are using biodiesel ! Another plus is that these 'early' Land Cruisers' don't clog up in the air intake so readily as the 'newer' versions do. They do clog up though after about 90k and it dawns on the viewer when taking the EGR Valve off and of course the Air mass valve that these components can give trouble unless the air intake is hoovered and the devices as mentioned cleaned carefully with Mr muscle & carb cleaner to remove the remnants of soot before the oven cleaner gets at the ali ! It has been said by those 'who don't know' Avoid oven cleaner like the plague it'll eat the ali........ with respect if that cleaning is done with care the alkali does not get onto the ali but is washed off & then what bit of carbon is left then that is dissolved with the carb cleaner. It's a time consuming job and not for the faint hearted I must add. I would have taken the air intake manifold off if only I could see the bloody bolts. As it is I'm pondering on the oven cleaner & then a good industrial hoovering before the chemical gets at the ali... I have learnt a great deal about the fact that the 'keep the air clean brigade' who I respect have succeeded in getting the manufacturers to design engines to leave the products of combustion stuck firmly to the insides of all engines and not be blasted out of the tail pipe as in my younger days........ The younger the engine the sooner the blockages!
If only land rover had this type of reliability..the chinese copy of the evoke is more reliable than the one produced by land rover..Amazons are totally bullet proof
My Dad worked in Saudi Arabia for many years and said if you were going to a restaurant or hotel you'd go in a Range Rover, but if you were going into the desert proper you'd take a Landcruiser or a M.Shogun. I think it's quite telling that the U.N. always seem to use petrol Landcruisers when they were in potentially hostile environments.
