I've found most other reviews for this to be pretty honest. It's a cool system with a solution that's much better and cooler than software emulation. It's pretty much expected to get positive reviews.
I don’t find most other reviews to be dishonest. Analogue is a very tiny company of like 5 employees, hardly big enough to be able to afford to “pay off”every site that reviewed it. Digital Foundry is very well respected as well as My Life in Gaming, they both put the system through its paces & even helped identify bugs before & after its release.
I want to know if he was paid for this review and if not, did they know he had a large social media following when they so generously sent the replacement MB. Also, I would have wanted a brand new system and not have to take the thing apart and swap the MB.
NOTE: At the time of releasing this video Analogue have released a 4.3 firmware update that addresses my 2 issues with Color Palette and Uni-racers. I made a quick edit to show the color palette in 4.3 at 9:54. Very pleased that Analogue are listening to their customers !
It's worth mentioning that the PAL version of Earthworm Jim 2 had sound issues with the first firmware. It sounded like a bad emulator. But I reached out to Kevtris at Analog (during a livestream no less) and within 2 days he had fixed it in update 4.1 (which you can see in the version notes) :D
Now if analogue nt will also come with a mixed mono sound update, you can experience snes games the way you heard them for the first time on old crt tv’s via coaxial cable,in mono .
Uni-racers does a very odd thing to render its split screen mode. It moves the location of the sprites mid frame. The behaviour depends on information left in some registers by a previous execution. I suppose it's not really a suprise this sort of undocumented use of the original hardware would cause a problem!
Wow, them fixing those issues that quickly is actually quite remarkable. I was thinking about getting it any way, but this reaffirms my decision and makes me feel good about supporting a company that cares about its customers and products.
Lol, out of all the 0.5% of faulty units they could ship out, its sent to a big RU-vidr who makes videos about them :D A case of bad luck all around really 😂
I was also in the 0.5%, and I'm still waiting for my replacement motherboard. :( I live in Seattle and offered to just drive over to get the replacement but they haven't gone for it. Oh well.
@M. O. it is nothing wrong with Made In China for electronic devices. Apple iPhones are made in China, as well as some of the Big names in DAP / CAS music players.
wish you would have mentioned kevtris. he was the brains behind this and without him, this and many other things in the retro community would not be possible. THANK YOU KEVTRIS!!
I noticed the colour issue on other videos and was bothered by the lack of mention. Patently awaited your review as I knew you would address it (and review the console for that matter) if it wasn't a recording issue.
In some other videos, I expected "Well, the color is different because..." as I have noticed color variances in comparisons of RF, Composite, (Component Retrovision/Genesis) and RGB. Glad it's addressed. It looks much closer (though very slightly different) now. I'm really impressed at how quickly they are fixing bugs with the system and the games.
Alex Tirrell Ditto, to your first statement. I assumed they would explain it in some way, I assumed they (the other reviewers) were informed it would be patch by the company and decided to omit the information expecting an upcoming patch. However, MVG did the proper thing by informing potential consumers first and then informing them of a patch when it came. In regards to the update: I doubt it was a fast a response as it may seem, I honestly believe it was a known issue (hence them likely reassuring the other reviewers and requesting an omission pending the planned patch).
I've had my Super NT for close to a year now, and I absolutely love it. The Super NT is without a doubt the best Super Nintendo clone system ever made, with it's perfectly accurate emulation and very wide compatibility. The upgradable firmware is awesome as well, since it can fix any problem with the system. My only real complaint is that cartridge slot is still quite temperamental, as it can often take a few tries to get a cartridge to work. In fact it seems like sometimes I have to pull up on the cartridge slightly to get it to play.
What I've been wanting to know about the shipping is the full $40 goes to the shipping company. Because that's way too much money going to a middleman. Analogue would not be making a profit for such an insane amount.
Pretty substantial part of the overall cost, honestly... Just paid $40 (Domestic UPS ground shipping!) out of $190. That's over a fifth, and I know for a fact if they've got a UPS account shipping in the US wouldn't go over $16 for residential delivery, and mine's going to a business which is even less, probably closer to $9/12. Something tells me they aren't paying one guy close to $30 to box up one of these per hour.
The way they handled your feedback makes me far more likely to buy one of their consoles. Analogue really does seem to care about customer feedback to an almost absurd degree. So many updates in so few weeks; well done, Analogue.
Quite a pleasant surprise seeing another great RU-vidr commenting on here too Phil, i cant wait till i can get.back to Australia at.the end of.the month so i can start.binge watchimg quite a.few video's, ive missed aome of yours, Byran's, Steve HWU and Linus videos since ive been on holidays but im sure you guys will give me quite the tech fix ive.been craving lol
As a potential international buyer, this problem in the motherboard scares me a lot. I live in Brazil and, if my unit comes with this problem, the replacement process won't be easy. But its good to hear that they have this degree of commitment with their product .
Sweet! Regards not doing a video review because other reviews are out - don't make that mistake, we watch your channel to see 'your opinion' - it's not the case that others have reviewed it so we pass on this video, quite the opposite - people want to see what you think about it =D
Thank you for the review. You've convinced me, and I just ordered one. Hopefully they'll restock the NT Mini some day so I can get one of those too. I'd even be fine with plastic.
Great review :D RGB gamma slider controls are coming in a future firmware update, which will allow you to tweak the colors even further. Lots of game fixes are in the works too.
Great review, I'm certainly tempted although really I don't "need" one as I have a healthy Snes and CRT setup and I'm and 80's kid and that's the way I like to play it. However knowing that should all the original hardware fail one day, knowing that there's a system that will keep that SNES flag flying for decades to come does make me happy!
I echo some comments, I can appreciate somebody being cautious, and then acknowledging they either got it, or they are working on it and they made it. SNES is in my blood, its also important to me that it's accurate. a very enjoyable review!
I have one on the way. Super excited. I've been trying all sorts of emulation, through dozens of devices, and feel like this could finally be the device to satisfy my needs.
Awesome review on this, happy to see the updates are being pushed out regularly and are directly fixing bugs that users are addressing! For Super Nintendo consoles this seems to be the new modern recommendation as getting this in the long run seems to be cheaper than a 1-CHIP SNES and getting everything all fitted up for RGB SCART to HDMI. If you're wanting to play a ton of systems with RGB SCART then getting modified consoles and an upscaler would still be a good solution, but if you mostly or only care about SNES then this seems to be the way to go.
for sure, the cost of a 1-Chip, OSSC or Framemeister and scart/rgb makes this a much easier choice for many, but of course you dont get the option to connect it up to a CRT - athough im hearing Analogue is coming out with an adapter for that !
But why wouldn't you just get the Super Nintendo retro with 300 of the best games that ever came out for the system for only $100 bucks.. and it comes with 2 controllers.. I'm mean come on now..
You can get them off eBay with all the best games on it or you can get the out of the box one that still has about 20 something of the best games already on it out the box.. even still I would rather just get one where they added all the best games on it
Im definitely cool with just playing virtual console and the snes classic but this really looks awesome. Analogue really seems like they’re trying to earn the trust of customers and putting out a good product that they will support.
Thank you for the honest review! I finally pulled the trigger on the flat black one. I Can't wait to play super metroid and mega man X series in 1080p on 70"inch screen.
From my perspective these are fantastic - not like that other system you looked at last year. Definitely on my wish list - this is a really good way to protect and save wear and tear on original hardware. The fact that Kevtris is behind it should install a lot of confidence in anyone considering a purchase.
Great review you did change my mind from "too expensive" to "you get your moneys worth". I would like to see a multisystem for that price which flips the FPGA into some other systems but maybe you'd lose the edge that makes it the perfect SNES clone if it went generic.
RetroManCave Kevtris said in an interview that there’s enough space on the Nt’s fpga chip to have many other 16-bit cores on it such as a Sega Mega Drive core.
When I was a kid in the 90's I thought Australia was just a small country with a small population. Nowadays it seems like all my favorite channels are Aus, and there's *a lot* of them. Keep doing your thing man, it's good stuff.
Personally, the SupaRetronHD does the job for me, it's good enough™, and I spent about the same as what you spent on the controller alone. Given that the original source was composite or coaxial, and NTSC (Never Twice the Same Color) in the US, it's hard to complain about image or palette differences. None will come close to any memory of the system. Even in the age of HDMI and digital displays, there are differing levels of quality and reproduction. At the end of the day, does Analogue Super Nt make Earthworm Jim any funner to play? Again personally, the biggest improvement in these new consoles has been the ease of connecting and disconnecting them. I now have one shared HDMI and micro USB cable, and all I have to do is connect those cables and unwind the controller cable. This is a lot better than unwinding a power supply, unwinding and connecting a composite cable, and unwinding the controller cable. The time it takes to connect a composite cable is longer than connecting the micro USB and HDMI.
I trust your opinion and I'm glad for the information especially the way the company actually seems to handle issues including individual ones such as your motherboard. It speaks well of the company in the way they adhere to their customers... pretty impressive. I will definitely purchase one based on your review. Great work on your video, especially the update within the video!
I just rewatched this after getting my hands on a Super NT and it is amazing...but there are few drawbacks. No save states is a killer. Also, I wish it had a capability of applying real-time patches onto cartridges.
+SuperGojira2001 which was bought by scalpers on release day and sold for 4-5x the price. Im glad i got a old snes and some games instead of paying a shitty re-saler.
I wonder if they're going the Disney Vault route and rerelease them periodically. One would hope they'd improve on subsequent release. Clearly the Analogue way is the way to do it right. I wouldn't mind new reproduction carts on the market too, but I can see how the Nintendo mini's are basically just a holiday special. Maybe they'll do the N64 next and cycle back to the NES?
What, precisely is proprietary about the controllers? I mean, aside from the obvious, since SNES controllers are by definition also proprietary. The SNES classic controllers are in fact the closest thing Nintendo has had to a consistent wired controller standard, pretty much ever. They are, whether you realise it or not, Wii Classic controllers. (They'll work as such if hooked up to a Wii or Wii U) That's the same controller standard, with the same connector type, and full inter-operability with every system that uses that connector type, since 2006 Works in reverse too. A Wii classic controller will connect just fine to a SNES mini. (or NES mini for that matter) - the home button even works, and does pretty much what you think it does. These are in fact one of the most standardised controller types Nintendo has ever made, and it's only their decision to finally switch to USB that says otherwise. For that matter, connector aside, Wii extension controllers such as this communicate using I^2C, an industry standard protocol, which has proved exceptionally useful for hackers. SNES connectors are no less proprietary. And it should be obvious that the system would have had to have been much larger to support connectors that size. Or are you complaining they're not USB controllers? Or wireless? The cheap emulation box part I agree with. But the controllers? The controllers are perfect, for what they are. They match the look and feel of SNES controllers near flawlessly, And they are interoperable with 4 different Nintendo systems. (and also in reverse. Any Wii classic type controller is compatible with the SNES mini. ) I see no need to complain about that.
Got the Super Nt (black color, it was the only color they were still accepting pre-orders for as the other three colors are all sold out) today, cannot wait to try it out! Sure came in fast from shipping it out last Friday coming in to Canada. Hope there are no issues compared to what you had gone through.
It's interesting how this video has aged. Analogue has become a very respected company and can't keep products on the shelf they sell out so fast. I'm hoping for a second gen Analogue pocket. I wanted to buy one but it didn't support GBA very well, and I knew it would sell out so I thought I would let others buy it who would enjoy it more than I would, but I love my Super Nt and I think it was the best Analogue system for me.
I am thinking of getting one. This is despite the fact I have an original PAL SNES and a Super Famicom that I use with my 4K OLED TV via the XRGB Framemeister. I like the fact I could plug the Analogue Super NT straight into my TV without the need of the Framemeister :) Here is to more FPGA Consoles!!!
I have an original US SNES, Retron 5. The Retron 5 is a great emulation system but the sound quality it puts out is lacking so i pre- ordered the all black Super Nt last week. Im looking forward to playing the Super Nt when i receive it. Nothing beats playing an original SNES system on a CRT TV but the Super Nt sounds like a great system for those that want an enhanced SNES gaming experience or those that don't have a CRT TV laying around. Great video!
I knew it was good but not THIS good. You’ve just sold me on a Super NT. Too bad you don’t get a commission. I’ll definitely let them know it was your channel that sold me on this when I order it Friday.
Wow! I'm extremely impressed!!! Thank you for all the things you've mentioned in your video man! Somehow don't seem to be able to buy it on their website somehow...
I do own one in black and also brought another one as love it so much. Although my emulation set-up is remarkable the Super Nt makes SNES feel perfect. Thanks for the video.
Funny, you're the first review I've watched on the subject despite extensive coverage heh. I think I just ignored it because the NES model was so expensive but the SNES model is actually within a more reasonable price range. I guess it was just easier to bridge SNES to HDMI standards compared to the NES.
It's a very long story, the short answer is I had a shipping question that they didn't answer honestly and after 2 days of asking, it cost me the SFC edition (it sold out) and it was meant to be a birthday present (sold out on the 8th of feb, same day as my birthday) was an unfortunate experience.
The color "issue" is due to the it not being CRT and neither a NTSC signal (dont know about pal), on an emulator it has the same colors unless an NTSC filter is used, the black level and color saturation are different than on an LCD panel.
I'm really interested in these, but they are quite expensive over here in the UK (nearly £200+). Considering I could buy an original SNES in fantastic condition for £100...
I'm happy with my original sfc & snes but I would love one of these too. Most likely I will wait until I jave a 4k tv and then order it. Customer service so important and they obviously understand that. This is next level retro
Great content as always. I do hear an audio difference between the original and the NT version though. The original has a little more echo, it almost sounds like the single notes end a litte more fluently if this makes any sense. I’m confident that a sonogram would show this.
Thank you for making this review. I was hoping for an hdmi kit to come out for the snes but at a price of $190 I don’t think it’ll be significantly cheaper modding the console.
Absolutely outstanding review from the comments I can say I already love this console. Hope in future make usb to plug external flash storage or thirty party controller.
I think I need to get one of these. I have a PAL CRT and a PAL SNES for that OG European SNES experience (I grew up on 50 Hz), but this will let me play import games as well, and it looks like it actually makes the games look respectable on an LCD tv. Also a great unit when you don't want to go through the hassle of hooking up the original hardware.
Awesome honest review! I've been subbed a while to you as well as your buddy David Murray (8-bit Guy). I really want a Super NT, but money is tight at the moment. I'm getting into recording game footage from native consoles, and this Super NT would be great for what I wanna do. I also want the SFC style console. I always thought that the SFC looked so much better than the SNES the rest of the world got.. Damnit Nintendo. Again, great review! I really enjoy your content! Keep em coming! xD
I liked the review. I was wondering about the wieght, I didn't want it to feel light and cheap like most clones. Also nice to see the quality ( even though you had to replace it) of the motherboard as well. Thanks showing the quality of the unit. My ask is this, when the Sega version comes out, please do another in depth review of it. Thanks.
Good video mate, glad your faulty unit was sorted so quickly. Have to say I'm really impressed with the machine, it really does looks amazing. I think for the time being I'll probably stick to an original and my framemeister/CRT but down the road I can see myself picking one up. I'm interested to see what their analogue out solution will be like.
I am interested in one, but the price is still pretty steep. I mean OK its a perfect solution for someone wanting to capture super nintendo gameplay on HDMI but I can't help but prefer the RGB output of an original. That and the fact I just built a giant piece of furniture to accomodate a 27" Sony PVM with 12 consoles on RGB-SCART. Was planning on getting a framemeister but still on a DVD-recorder right now (I know framerate...). Was planning to get one as soon as the laser died(should be soon). And to get rid of the hassle of ripping the dvd"s.
Awesome review and a great video, as always, you make everything sound interesting and engaging - I love it! Sadly I can't ever see myself paying £170 for the SuperNT, so it will always be an "admire from afar" curio to me .. but it sure does look and sound great, especially with the just-released jailbreak for loading ROMs off SD card.
SNES was my favorite console, Im fighting off the urge to buy one but one night and one beer to many im probaly gonna pull the trigger.. Great review, This console is promising... I hear the audio is even better than the original since it was digital then too and converted to analog and now its pure digital as intended ( not sure if thats spot on )..
It may just be the capture method, but the FFII Crystal Theme sounded just a little brighter on the original hardware, but I don't think I'd have ever noticed it if it weren't back-to-back.
I wish I had the money to drop on a high quality hardware clone and a bunch of carts. I've just really wanted to play snes games recently but couldn't really afford a good emulator or clone. But I just hacked my vita and the snes emulation on it is phenomenal really. I've been playing earthbound and it sounds and looks like any footage of the official game. I haven't experienced any gameplay slowdown in Kirby super star either. Since I wasn't old enough to even ever have a snes I'm really happy to start my experience here!
