@@jski718 I challenge you to go up to any member of the Israeli Defense Force✡and express your opinion - that they are Beta males for how they're required to carry their duty weapon(s). I always carry with a round in the chamber myself, simply due to time factor(s) involved in a dynamic critical incident. SHALOM!
@@glenncoody I would. Just because they do it does mean its a good idea. They only do it because they didn't have weapons standards originally. So it was a bad habit/making the best of a bad situation.
I think carrying in the chamber is less about the speed (because people can train to be very fast), and more about being ready for the situation in which you need it. I've seen videos where people are attacked and they're using 1 arm to fight off the attacker and only have 1 hand free to draw their gun while struggling. In a defensive situation, chances are you're going to be reactive, not proactive, and it might be from a position where the attacker already has ahold of you.
This. It is a very real possibility someone could be in arms reach attacking you with a knife. Having your off hand free to ward off the knife while your other hand draws your firearm could save your life. This is why apendix carry is making less sense to me. Turning and drawing 1 handed from 4 'oclock seems more natural to me. Sure, apendix may be faster when you have both hands. But will you have both hands?
Not "chances are", but literally 100%. The criminal gets to choose the time and place every single time. Maybe you can wait your turn and catch them unaware, but racking a round is likely going to draw their attention.
@@arorath9170 biggest problem is that racking is noisy!!! “Hello look at me!” Imagine you’re in a store with two armed attackers who have guns out. When you rack all focus will go toward you! It’s pure insanity. Not even a question.
@@Strlrd1023 that is not only NOT the biggest problem but isn't even a problem at all. If focus is not on you and your life is not in immediate danger then why the hell are you drawing to begin with? Bro, that's not self defense.
It seems like this discussion usually leans towards people thinking there is only 1 right way to carry, and that's with a round in the chamber. Yes, when a situation occurs where milliseconds count for firing the first round, and that is often the case, it would absolutely be an advantage to carry with a round chambered. But the situation doesn't 'always' require that sub 1.5 second draw and shoot. There are 'some' situations when it's good to be carrying a firearm, but the milliseconds for first shot don't matter. (Say your in Costco and you hear shots fired on the other side of the store by someone you have no visual of. It would be good that you're carrying, but would have that extra half-second to chamber a round.) As far as people shooting themselves or someone else 'accidentally', I have seen people in videos 'accidentally' shoot themselves or someone else while carrying with one in the chamber, but I've 'never' seen someone shoot themselves or someone else without a round in the chamber. People will say that's because the people didn't train enough carrying with one in the chamber. Well, maybe, but people are also not perfect. You can train all you want and still make a mistake someday. Also, some people have kids and if their kids did somehow get ahold of their firearm, they feel safer knowing their kid would have to chamber a round before they could accidentally hurt someone just by pulling the trigger. Or maybe someone just started carrying and isn't yet trained or comfortable carrying with one in the chamber until they are better trained. If someone decides to carry without a round in the chamber, they are definitely incurring the risk of those times when milliseconds do count for firing your first round. If someone decides to carry with one in the chamber, they are definitely reducing the time it takes to get their first round fired when they really need it. Good for them. But they are also incurring some level of risk that someday, some way, that round in the chamber could be fired unintentionally. I'm not saying don't carry with one in the chamber if that's what someone chooses to do. I'm just saying that there is more than one way to carry and there are valid reasons for carrying with or without a round in the chamber. Everyone can weigh the risks and make their own choice what's best for them. (BTW - I carry with one in the chamber. I just don't want anyone to feel 'forced' to carry in a way that it not best for them.)
There is only one way to carry. Otherwise you are not competent. If you follow the rules of gun safety, have a quality firearm and holster, it’s impossible to have a discharge. So if you can’t carry round in the chamber you shouldn’t carry at all cuz you aren’t proficient in your 4 rules of gun safety. There is no accidental discharge, only negligent.
Beautiful comment, finally someone took the time to explain it. My m&p shield doesn't have a safety lever. I don't go anywhere where I may need to pull and shoot. So I don't keep a round in the chamber.
You need to remember that a single piece of advice as important as this one can never apply to everyone at every skill level. New gun owners without a lot of experience or instruction are especially vulnerable to advice beyond their skill level. The situation always dictates the condition of your weapon.
There's no way most common folks could actually rack that fast. People need to realize that this man is a trained Navy Seal and is an expert. Doing this myself would be much slower. I started out without a round in the chamber until I got comfortable and confident in my gun. Now it's the way I train and for me, not being an expert, I don't need something that would slow me down like racking a slide. Great video!
I've carried a Colt M 1911 throughout my 22 year law enforcement career (retired in 2008). I continue to carry my full frame, government 1911 concealed. It is fully loaded, chambered round and cocked. I've been in deadly force situations and you simply do not have the time to chamber a catridge before defending yourself. Get comfortable with your loaded gun. Carry a quality pistol. Maintain your pistol. Train and practice.
Even if you have time to draw and chamber that means you most likely have a drop on the perp, the sound of racking could alert the bad guy and you lose your advantage
@creatureslim Why would you be that slow racking the slide unless you are not practiced on it? If you draw the gun then you are going to use it in the same motion or don't draw the gun. Draw and shoot or don't draw.
As I point out above, over the decades carrying a knfe, I have alway been aware of my surrounding enough to have my hand in my pocket and do the same with my gun and have it staged with holster wing jammed against the pocket ready to draw. No reaching for it, lifting a shirt. I am not drawing unless I am immediately firing so if I can get it fired as fast or even faster than an appendix carry, that;s what matters, my attacker is going to be alerted by a bang. In my home, I don't plan on going seeking the perp, and if I rack that alone sends NINEY PERCENT running that's great. And as training goes, the best fight is the one you didn't have to be in. After a home invasion, I want the police to leave... without arresting me. As my criminal law prof said, when you are in the court room, you want to go out back door, not the front door... it's not very nice back there.
Nice video. I always carry with a round in the chamber. I actually feel safer doing so. If something happens, I don't have to worry about racking the slide.
I carry fully loaded with a round in the chamber as well but it's also easier for me since I'm a Stroke Survivor and Recovering but my affected side is my right side but I'm thankful to God I'm Left Handed so my strong and dominant hand is 💯... Very Good video Thanks
Hammer-fired double action/single action guns are way safer to carry than any striker-fired gun. Like most modern firearms, classic hammer-fired Sigs have firing pin safeties where the firing pin is blocked unless the trigger is pulled. I don't think twice about carrying a classic Sig de-cocked, with one in the chamber, WITHOUT a holster. You won't do that with any striker-fired gun. I've heard the half-brained arguments about two different trigger pulls. If someone is close the heavy double action trigger pull isn't so different that you will miss. If a target is far away, you have time to cock the hammer with your thumb and you have a single action trigger pull that is better than anything you can get from any modern single action semi-automatic pistol. I believe the last new double-action/single action gun made was the Springfield XDE. It only failed because most people are ignorant about the advantages of double-action/single action guns. Hence the "you should always carry with a high quality holster" comments I'll probably get for posting this.
I'm carrying a sig p229 r2 with DA/SA trigger. Doesn't have a safety so I'm a little reluctant to carry because of my fear of discharge but while I get to know my firearm I notice that even if I push on the hammer after I rack it there's absolutely no way the hammer can be forced to smash the pin. Is there a safety mechanism at play here? Would like to get your opinion as a fellow sig owner
A more helpful video would be statistics on how often the loss of a fraction of a second would make a difference in self-defense versus how many accidental/negligent discharges would be prevented with an empty chamber. It not easy to come by these numbers, but it would be better than yet another video showing differences in draw time that we already know.
What's your life worth? The time spent racking your gun could very well be the difference between life and death. If you're to incompetent to carry one in the chamber maybe you shouldn't carry at all. That's why we practice.
A lot of people start carrying with empty chamber. Then after 6mo or so feel safe enough to switch to round in chamber. Just know that cycling the same round in and out alot can cause problems. Switch the chambered round out every few times. Then shoot your carry mag empty on the next trip to the range.
@@np4057 i have young kids 6 and 8. They know not to touch them. But i eject the chambered round every night. Because i know they cant rack a slide. It gives me piece of mind.
@@YOUneedJESUS1 I am just saying no one should have access to your firearm except you (and wife? If proficient) and anyone who does have access should be able to handle it loaded safely. Basically if you can’t keep it around the house loaded then it’s not stored safely. Just my opinion
@@YOUneedJESUS1get a god damned quality quick safe. Don’t leave your guns laying around when you have kids. Idc how good they are. My kid shoots competiton and can’t access my guns. Get some drawer safes for Christ sakes!
A primary consideration not addressed here is that your assailant may control one arm, leaving you unable to rack the round. People practice methods to get around that, like racking on the leg, but try that in a fight and see how it works out for you.
@bjs301 As I stated earlier, if I let the threat get that close to me then that is my fault to begin with. The threat should never be allowed to get that close. That is why we should be situationally aware.
@@rbm6184 It may or may not be your fault, but regardless, it happens. I didn't read whatever your earlier comment said, but if you seriously carry on an empty chamber, good luck to you.
@@bjs301 It is always my fault if I fail to stop a threat getting too close to me. I carry on an empty chamber only when the situation warrants it. I don't want a kid on my lap reaching down and pulling my trigger but I do want a round in at a convenience store where there are shady characters. Folks just need to use situational awareness and good judgment on when to have a loaded chamber and when to have an unloaded chamber. Its not that hard to understand.
Good video... now unholster, rack & fire with 1 hand in the case of being in a struggle & only having one hand available. For that reason alone I always carry with one chambered.
@MattSoldano I practice that also when using condition 3 but if I let the threat get that close to me then that is my fault to begin with. The threat should never be allowed to get that close. You can rack one handed on a belt or shoe sole if there is nothing else.
@@rbm6184 the problem with your theory is that they might not be perceived as a threat until they are too close. as for racking your slide on a belt or shoe, that is not guaranteed to work. what if the slide gets caught up in your shirt, or you get some debris from your shoe in the chamber and it wont go into battery? by keeping one in the chamber, you mitigate all those unknowns.
@@wedgie502 Anyone getting too close is a perceived threat and that is what is wrong with your logic. By your logic what if you fail to draw your pistol and get shot regardless of an empty chamber? If if if if. Practice, practice, practice so that you can be competent in every carry condition. I don't want a kid on my lap reaching down and pulling my trigger but I do want a round in at a convenience store where there are shady characters. Use situational awareness and good judgment. If you carry with a round in all the time then your chances/odds of a negligent/accidental discharge go way up.
@@rbm6184 people may get a little too close in what seem to be innocuous situations like waiting in line at the gas station or at a McDonalds. If you want to get technical, anyone closer than 21 feet would be considered too close since you could still be attacked before you got a shot off. if you're worried about a kid on your lap while you have a pistol in your waist, why isn't it in a holster that covers the trigger, or better yet, clear the weapon and secure it in a lockbox. and why is a kid grabbing down there to begin with? also, if i keep my finger off the trigger, there is no negligent discharge since there is no other way to fire a Glock or many other striker-fire pistols. the whole point of this video is to point out that you want to choose one way to carry and stick with it. if you switch it up, you're going to be second guessing yourself if you have to use your weapon since you wont know if its hot or not, and that can end up with you dead. The more variables that you add to an equation, the more likely a mistake will happen.
@@wedgie502 "also, if i keep my finger off the trigger, there is no negligent discharge since there is no other way to fire a Glock or many other striker-fire pistols." So you are going to tell me that a kid can't reach into the holster and pull the trigger? Its happened before. You will not have time to clear the weapon and secure it in a box when the kid jumps on your lap. I would love to see how you keep a kids hands to him or herself in your perfect world. Something will snag on that trigger when you least expect it and we are all humans that make mistakes. A lot of folks have said the same thing you do and are the same ones that have had negligent discharges and blame the gun for it. Carrying in condition zero is a negligent discharge waiting to happen. Its the same as carrying a 1911 cocked but not locked. At least carry in condition one on a striker pistol with a light sloppy single action trigger. I don't second guess myself since I practice all the carry conditions and know the condition of my gun at all times.
I've a striker pistol with a safety that I find easy to sweep as I draw, so have always had one in the chamber. I dry fire practice draw & sweep so safety's disengaged as I'm coming up. Now, that could be a problem with technique you showed in an earlier video for fire from waist line; I'm adapting practice for that.
I think what makes many uneasy is the realization that the striker is 100 percent cocked on most guns. I’m pretty sure the 320, 365 and the M&P are. Hocks are about 70 percent cocked. I thin CZ are not fully cocked. I wish we had more da/sa options. Would you carry a 1911 cocked with only a trigger dingus and firing pin block? That is essentially what you are doing with 100 percent precocked striker fired guns.
When I first started to carry I was one of those that was afraid to carry with one chambered. After a few times at the range and outdoors I became comfortable that it will not fire without the trigger being pulled. I do still test a new gun for my own confidence. I own a few different ones that range from (budget) to a trusty Glock. I am now one that is a firm believer of being "Ready" at all times with the hope that I will never have to be. I have read and watched countless hours of opinions and research on the matter.
I don't know your idea of a budget firearm, but, from what I have seen online everywhere and at retail in my area a glock of any caliber is always cheaper than most models. Unless your idea of budget gun is a $250 piece of trash.
Also glocks break down just like the rest. It is not the end all be all of firearms. I don't put a price tag onmy life or the ones I care about. It's not about the money for me. It's about reliability. Glocks are great. So are S&W's. So are Sig Sauers. There are many out there. Chose wisely the one that's right for you. I never tell others what to buy. Just to go to the range and rent some that tickle their fancy and within their budget, but I always think about reliability first. It has to go pop when you need it to.
Snob much???? Just because it may not be 500 plus does not make it trash. And I mention glock as a recognized trusty firearm over your version of "trash". But by all means throw a months wages at a pretty brand name with pretty colors on it.
I was 95B/31B and working the road we were not allowed to chamber a round unless a threat was imminent. So we trained to not have a round in the chamber. Deployed we were locked and loaded. This video is very predisposed to carry L&L but as long as you train and comfortable to draw and carry, 1/10 of a second is pretty minute either way. Let's focus on that. Training and Being comfortable your way of carrying.
My first carry gun was a 1911 and it was open carry in 2017 when I turned 21. Depending on who you talk to either hated or was indifferent on the fact it was hammer back safety off and a round in the chamber. That was what I personally felt like was my most comfortable option. I wanted it ready the milisecond I pulled it. I'm sure someone will reply with why that was bad but it was how I wanted to carry.
Cocked and LOCKED is the way to carry the M1911-A1. An M9 is carried uncocked and unlocked because it's DA on the first round. That's they way I understand it for what it's worth.
I had to take some time and consider all the angles before I started carrying loaded chamber but it came down to the safety of modern firearms and the possibility of a bad rack in a stressful situation. For some people I expect it would take some time to warm up to the practice and then will carry +1 and every person is going to be a little different. This video does a good job of teaching beginners what things to look out for and think about which makes it valuable in the correct circles. Nothing gained in telling them they have to carry +1 but an unloaded gun is called a hammer. I hope it was a cheap one.
Also remember, modern striker fire guns have firing pin blocks. Some people don't know this but that little lever that sits on the trigger not only helps to prevent something from catching the edge and pulling the trigger, but it actually moves the firing pin block out of the way so that the gun can fire. This is just one more layer of safety that prevents the gun from going off if it is dropped or hit hard. The firing pin physically cannot strike the primer unless that little lever on the trigger is pulled. This is why a gun sitting securely inside a hard Kydex holster which completely covers the trigger guard is impossible to go off.
The little lever shouldn't move the block itself, the trigger does, once it's pulled to a certain extent. The lil lever actually blocks the trigger from moving in general on most models that have that lever. But if it's depressed, the trigger can now move, and the trigger itself removes the internal safety blocks.
Both of my CC guns are DA/SA with decockers. So I carry with one in the chamber but my first shot will be double action. I feel more comfortable that way
I think that the video left out the two most important parts of carrying safely with a round in the chamber: 1) Use a quality poster that completely covers the trigger. 2) Pay attention when reholstering so that no foreign objects (like clothing) come into contact with the trigger. Hammer-fired guns allow you to put your thumb on the hammer to prevent accidental discharge if something does try to actuate the trigger while reholstering. While that is not an option for most striker-fired pistols, Langdon Tactical does sell a Striker Control Device for Glocks that provides "thumb-on-hammer" safety while reholstering.
Sig hammer DA/SA guns have a physical block in front of the hammer when decocked that only is disabled when the trigger is pulled. If you look the hammer is at about 1/4 cocked as well with the in front of it.
30 years in law enforcement now retired and I carry cc the same as I was trained throughout my career. My firearm is always hot, and I treat all firearms hot.
I have a 226 and now I want to try and force that hammer forward to see if it forces it to fire and before anyone says it will break the gun I already beat you do that the barrel is well worn out and it malfunctions so its no where near my EDC just a fun plinker when it works.
Great video, I appreciate you showing us something you weren't comfortable with. I carry with one in the chamber with my Sig P365XL, and no safety. I'd rather not have to try and chamber one in a time of high anxiety and fear.
Sir, I believe you also made the USCCA video regarding using an elbow at close encounter. Consider making another video with racking a round and the close protection when withdrawing.
I honestly think it sounds more like you need some professional training. You don't have the confidence to carry yet. I was the same way for about two weeks when I first started carrying. Thankfully, I had private training and after about a month of that, I was confident enough to carry with one in the chamber, and no manual safety. Seriously, how much is your life worth to you? Even three or five basic concealed carry classes will take you very far and probably help you avoid going to prison or worse.
I have two pistols I can keep with me. One is a 9mm that I keep a round in the chamber. The reason is I have a hard time racking the slide. I also have a 22lr that I do not keep a round in the chamber because I can easily rack the slide.
I have always carried Glock 19 I have appendix carry, with a round in the chamber. It’s just something that comes with trusting the gun. I have a fair number of rounds through it. I wouldn’t mind doing OWB carry at 3 but that’s usually hard to conceal unless it’s colder weather out.
"Irrational fears" are just that... Irrational. Where is it deemed illegal to legally carry a "loaded" weapon vs. being OK to carry an "unloaded" one? Remember, NOT having one in the chamber does not (in any jurisdiction I have ever heard of?) render the firearm as somehow being "unloaded"...
@@aolvaar8792 Is that not a regulation for transporting a weapon, specifically a "long gun" in a vehicle, not carrying one loaded vs. unloaded...? The point I was trying to make is that a firearm with a loaded magazine but lacking a round in the chamber is not, to my limited knowledge, regarded as being "UNLOADED" in most jurisdictions. The same with a revolver with the hammer on an empty chamber: unlikely this would be deemed to be "UNLOADED"...
@@NormanPOlt Utah, 2 actions For those 18 to 21: Open carry of a loaded firearm (e.g., a live round of ammunition in the firing chamber) is allowed with a permit. Open carry of firearm without a permit is allowed as long as the gun is at least two actions from being fired, e.g. 1) rack the slide to chamber, and 2) pull the trigger; or must carry with no bullet in the next chamber in a revolver, so have to pull the trigger twice to fire.
Here's a good reason to carry one in the chamber not really mention is what if you are using your support hand to defend yourself and only have one hand to draw and fire? It's not impossible to rack a weapon one handed but if you don't train to do that then you need both hands to draw your weapon and rack it in able to defend yourself. Just pointing this out to think about.
I have carried a 1911a1 for over 50 years, 30 in the US Army. Always carried in condition one, cocked and locked with a round in the chamber. If you need it right now, let nothing stand in your way.
That's correct, sir. Thank you for your service! But you would still have to remember to take down the safety. But if you're trained to do so, it's just as fast.
When we primarily carried revolvers this wasn't even a thought...now carrying a Beretta Jetfire the issue arises, somewhat...not so much round in chamber, that is a given, but whether hammer down safety off or cocked and locked...both ways seem okay...the only other auto we ever carried is a regular Bersa thunder, which was carried round in chamber, safety off, the double action first trigger good enough...that implies a lot of this discussion has to do with the type of handgun carried, as we carried the NAA hammer down on an empty chamber...lots of folks want to ask why give up a round in such a puny gun, but if that gun was ever needed we figured doing great to get 2 shots off in a hurry...perhaps the bottom line is 'you do you', and we'll do us...
Well stated! I carry an M9 on an LC-2 cartridge belt, holstered in Condition-1 ( loaded chamber, full mag and safety on.) I appendix carry my G19 in Condition-3; (empty chamber, full mag.). I'm much more comfortable carrying the M9 in Condition-1 on the belt because of where the muzzle of the weapon is pointed.
Being DA on the first round, the safety isn't really necessary. That's why they also make a G model, which is decocker only. Beretta built them the way they did for a reason.
Always one in the head. How else can you get +1? I carried unchambered for about a week and went to chambered after feeling comfortable with my holsters and feeling paranoid about not being loaded.
im a long time carrier but lack in training so my question might be premature...yes im am uncomfortable carrying one in the chamber only because of one possible scenario i can think of and i need feedback on this...going into your shorts pants or whatever what is the chance while retrieving your firearm that your trigger finger hits the guard instead of keeping it safely outside until youre ready to shoot?
And the other thing I had mentioned once before is I'm right-handed but I carry my sidearm on my left side let me know what you think about that the other reason why I carry on the left side I'm able to draw the fire on with my left hand and shoot which is a good option in case my right hand is being restrained
I think that people short stroke the gun and end up with no round in the chamber when it's most important to have one in the chamber. I don't think carrying with an empty chamber is a good idea, but that's just how I roll , you do you
I just got a cross the shoulder M-Tac CCW bag, if I carry one in the chamber I am “ muzzling “ objects, people and my body but the hand gun is secured with a holster? My finger cannot accidentally wrap around the trigger unless I am going to use it?
Carrying a round in the chamber should be one step of your training and familiarity of your gun. Being familiar with your gun is what I believe to be the first and foremost step with having a concealed weapon. Knowing how your gun works and operates is important to operating it.
EXACTLY. There are too many folks who carry, that have no idea how the firearm operates. I actually came across a guy a few years ago, that was open-carrying, and we talked about his gun. Turns out this genius NEVER FIRED A GUN IN HIS LIFE. Not even once. He was absolutely clueless, and though just carrying a gun, would scare all the "bad guys". I don't think I got through to him that day, unfortunately.
Sigs have a firing pin block. The trigger has to be depressed for the firing pin to move forward. You are not going to set your sig off bending over, or dropping it on the hammer. The hammer will shear off before it will fire. It’s 1 of 4 passive safeties.
Took me a while to come around to this, for the first 6+ Months I carried I didn’t carry a round in the chamber. But as I learned more about how a good holster protects the trigger and yes it does take precious seconds to chamber a round if you are in a bad situation. I carry now with a round in the chamber.
The situation shown assumes your attacker is coming from the front from a distance that would allow you the use of both arms. If jumped or engaging at close quarters you are more than likely going to have to use one arm to create space while drawing, and discharging your weapon close to your body with the other.
Always a round in the chamber and a quality holster designed for your weapon!! I decided on a SIG P365X with a manual safety for my first CCW. I spent a year going to the range 3 or 4 times a month before I started carrying 24/7.
Couple other considerations: perp stealing your gun gets a dead gun, ties up two hands in close quarters engagement, and after you developed muscle memory, you'll find that you'll eject a lot of good rounds, not good for small capacity mags. For around the first year I carried, I carried with an empty chamber. I do a lot of high level training, so my draw to shot time was very fast. After zero empty chamber NDs, I went loaded chamber. Carrying loaded chamber is obviously faster target acquisition and safe with proper training, but a newbie might want to carry empty for a while until they feel competent enough to carry loaded.
On top of taking longer to fire if you have to rack, something very important that wasn't discussed, what if in a split second decision you fumble your weapon or muscle memory gets wacky on you bc you added to rack? I want to carry with two rounds in the chamber 🤭
perhaps for those who are still hesitant and want to build the confidence reasonable option would be handgun with safety or decocker- I know I know don’t shoot the messenger but almost quiet click is better than sound of racking slide,,,
By comparison your average time with an empty chamber was 0.077 sec slower. Indeed some of your empty chamber times were better than some of your times with a round chambered. For someone who does not train with an empty chamber you're darn good that way. What do you suggest about DA/SA pistols? Yea, I know, train that way and the first firing will have a heavier trigger pull. But beyond that, what are your thoughts?
@@brandonjohnson1339 my statement was “putting on the seat belt as you are having an accident”. Nothing was said about a seatbelt while driving. I read someplace that FBI statistics say a typical self defense use of a firearm is under three meters, under 3 seconds and 3 rounds fired. If I carry without one in the chamber I will have to draw from concealment, rack the slide, and fire 3 accurate rounds in under 3 seconds. Under extreme stress getting your gun out and deploying it is going to be hard enough, racking the slide adds another chance for things to fail.
@@Rusty_ok for the average person the chances of accidently shooting yourself, someone around you, or having a child get ahold of it are much higher than being in some kind of quick draw scenario
I had someone I trust tell me it depends on where he is. My response, what if you think you have a round in a time you need it and you do not? You need to know how your gun is loaded every time. Not changing it from day to day or area to area.
I would never carry one in the chamber as a bigger dude my fear is when i draw i may inadvertently depress the trigger and its happened to me on one occasion [Walther PPK carrying open bent over and bang]...so ive trained the Israeli drill and one handed shooting which might be a half a second slower but much safer imo.
@@benjaminlong2837 Try doing that when someone's attacking you and you need that gun, there's a really good chance they'll end up with your gun. I had to draw one handed against two meth addicts a couple years ago, there's no way I'd have had time to rack the slide hoping I hit my belt buckle under duress.
I carried a 1911 for 8 years in the Coast Guard, and for 8 years, I was at the range every six months. The way we carried the 1911, we chambered a round with each draw. That was the most training I ever had, so I have no idea if that first round is going on the ground or not, but I'm ok not knowing👍
What you experienced is called "being institutionalized". The institution you worked for had a certain standard procedure that contradicts normal training.
It's called a side rack. You rack against your belt. That is slower than just a draw, but the only time you'd have to do this under real pressure is you were surprised by something that took out an arm. You can rack against a forearm.
@@danielhurst8863 what if your holding something like a baby or something that dropping isn’t an option. I know how to rack the slide on a belt and it’s completely hit or miss. Most situations your pulling a gun out is going to be surprising and stressful. Now your introducing and entire new step that requires the rear sight to catch your belt and successfully rack a round clean into a chamber. I’ve practiced it and trust me it’s not something I’m risking my life on. Defeating garment is hard enough one handed. 2 handed even. Also your carrying large gun or this isn’t happening. P365 Hellcat any micro 9 is not easily racked with 2 hands. And is not being racked off a belt. Train more and carry with one in the chamber.
I know people that do t chamber a round. They literally think the gun itself is protection. Also it’s nice that statistically they will never find out how wrong they are
There are some things i disagree with this video (like the position to carry, on body/off body) otherwise a very good overview. Most important thing is training... fight like you train and be comfortable that pistols don't just "go off" by themselves
@@dalepres1 yes.. While in the safe or not in "ready to be used" conditions, I never leave a round chambered due to the possibility of a fire. But to me off body (like satchel or purse carry) is just not fast enough and with lots of possibilities of losing... the risk/reward is just not there.
I don't like carryinga Glock charged, Im just afraid if I get into a tussle the person trying to take me down will grab where the trigger is, depending on the holster. IMHO
I prefer a safety, that's what I grew up with when pretty much all handguns had safties, meaning autos of course. If I don't have time to flip a safety I should get out of combat zone I found myself in.
I prefer a safety, that's what I grew up with when pretty much all handguns had safties, meaning autos of course. If I don't have time to flip a safety I should get out of combat zone I found myself in.
I didn't realize you all were wise asses there, maybe you can pay my fee when UT runs out next time because I won't. Is that good enough English for you?
I carry with a round in the Chamber. You may not have time to rack your gun if something happens. But With Certain Guns that now have the safety built onto the trigger, like the new Sig Sauer or new Glocks. That is something you need to decide. You need to do things correctly or risk self injury by not keeping your finger away from the trigger when you draw which everyone should do anyway. But under pressure things happen fast and many do not practice drawing their guns enough. Sig Sauer showed video of police not having their guns properly holstered or Drawing with trigger finger on the trigger. This was Sig Sauer's Defense on accidental discharges. I have a Gen 5 Glock 48. My finger is never near the trigger till my gun is out of the holster. I practice drawing my pistol almost as much as I shoot it. I have never had my gun accidently discharge, but I still do not like the safety built into the trigger. It maybe the reason I trade my Glock in. It is a personal preference but Id like a thumb flip safety more.
@@dalepres1 I carry a Glock 19. Very safe gun, that trigger is squishy and doesn't pull unless I want to pull it. I've gotten a tidbit more comfortable with a round in the chamber after training my holster draw at home and the range
@@dalepres1 hey, I appreciate your advice. I definitely consider all information, and always watch for clothing, my fingers, etc when holstering. I even try to practice pointing it away from my body when holstering, cause this is the most dangerous part
