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Should You Invest in Currency-Hedged ETFs? 

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In this video, Justin helps Canadian DIY investors decide whether they should invest in currency-hedged or unhedged U.S. and international equity ETFs. He also provides his top Vanguard and iShares ETFs for employing a currency-hedging strategy in your portfolio (VUS, VI, XUH, XFH).
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Комментарии : 65   
@JustinBenderCPM
@JustinBenderCPM 3 года назад
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@canpin
@canpin 3 года назад
Great info. Thanks!!!
@frlife0
@frlife0 Год назад
best - video on the topic. no nonsense and factual with no agenda - keep it up 🙂
@21Coins
@21Coins 6 месяцев назад
Thank you, I'm not from Canada but found the info very useful regardless. 50:50 was what I was leaning towards and you confirmed that is a sensible approach. Cheers
@mattbonnell7023
@mattbonnell7023 2 года назад
This video answered every single question I had. Great job. Thanks a lot.
@JustinBenderCPM
@JustinBenderCPM 2 года назад
@Matt Bonnell - You're very welcome - thanks for watching :)
@spencerkelly4491
@spencerkelly4491 3 года назад
Amazing series on ETFs, really appreciate the level of detail!
@JustinBenderCPM
@JustinBenderCPM 3 года назад
@Spencer Kelly - I'm glad you've been enjoying the videos - thanks for watching!
@nursultantulyakbay7070
@nursultantulyakbay7070 2 года назад
This was really good, Justin. Thank you.
@artemsklyar236
@artemsklyar236 3 года назад
Great insights and info! Thanks for sharing.
@JustinBenderCPM
@JustinBenderCPM 3 года назад
@Artem Sklyar - You're very welcome - thanks for watching! :)
@henrywhh
@henrywhh 6 месяцев назад
Thanks. Excellent presentation
@kawaiikittylee
@kawaiikittylee 2 года назад
I’m new to personal finances and investing - this is the BEST video I’ve seen so far in regards to CAD Hedging / Un-Hedging. Thank you so much for making this and adding all of the additional charts and data. It is greatly appreciated! I subscribed 🥰 A follow up question: If you wanted to hold a CAD $ Un-Hedged ETF (e.g. VFV) vs a comparable USD $ ETF (e.g. VOO) in your TSFA for the long term - which would you recommend and why? For example, let’s say you already maxed out your RRSP, you plan to use Norbert's Gambit to convert the $, and taking into consideration that there are usually lower expense fees for USD ETF’s? Thank you!
@JustinBenderCPM
@JustinBenderCPM 2 года назад
@Lee Ann Ng - We're so glad you enjoyed the video - thanks for subscribing! :) For TFSAs, I tend to just hold Canadian-based ETFs, as unlike in an RRSP, the US-based ETFs don't reduce the withholding tax drag on foreign dividends in a TFSA (although, as you mentioned, US-based ETFs tend to have lower expense ratios). As Norbert's gambit still has a cost, converting your CAD to USD and purchasing US-based ETFs in your TFSA can still offset the lower ETF expenses for several years. With my clients' TFSAs (and my personal TFSAs), I generally just hold a mix of Canadian-based Canadian, U.S., international and emerging markets equity ETFs. For the U.S. equity allocation, I'm currently favouring the Vanguard U.S. Total Market Index ETF (VUN), as it's more diversified than an S&P 500 index tracking ETF. For DIYers, an easier approach would just be to hold a 100% equity ETF, like VEQT. Good luck!
@jmc8076
@jmc8076 8 месяцев назад
@@JustinBenderCPM Late reply but thank you for this. Very helpful. Not sure if simple 2-3 fund portfolio is effective for a $1M plus portfolio in retirement but as we’re unwinding complicated holdings from a retiring advisor (who’s been helpful) for try at DIY I hope so. If PWL offered simple seminars (w/live QA sessions on investing for diff age groups or phases of life they’d prob be very popular just based on reputation for trust. We have read Dan’s book.
@niranmojo
@niranmojo 3 года назад
Thanks to Justin and this video I choose the VFV etf instead of the hedged VSP etf.
@rajaseth2577
@rajaseth2577 3 года назад
Is it not better to buy VSP since VSP is hedged? VFV and VSP have the same MER but VSP is hedged, right? Why did you end up buying VFV? Can u pl explain a little more? I am in the same situation now as i am looking to invest in either VFV or VSP, Quite a large amount
@niranmojo
@niranmojo 3 года назад
@@rajaseth2577 Justin explains it best. What I would say is you don’t want to bet against the American dollar. Plus if you have 10,000$ invested, dividends kick in, compound interest does its magic. The with holding tax will hardly be noticed,
@harlemespanol
@harlemespanol Год назад
Thank you for the informative video. You're the GOAT. 🐐
@jugzster
@jugzster 3 года назад
This is really helpful and well-researched, thanks. How about for bond ETFs, in general is it better to go hedged or unhedged?
@JustinBenderCPM
@JustinBenderCPM 3 года назад
@juntoalrizal - As unhedged foreign bonds can be volatile (and arguably, the main reason to own bonds is for portfolio stability), it's generally advisable to go with 100% currency-hedged foreign bonds.
@niranmojo
@niranmojo 3 года назад
A quick question for Justin, is ZNQ Better than ZQQ. The latter ZQQ(CDN hedged) has a higher dividend yield
@meemmjdn
@meemmjdn 3 года назад
Thanks for the great informative video! You touched on Stocks and Bonds, and I was wondering what your thoughts are on hedged vs. non-hedged gold bullion etfs. I was indecisive between CGL and CGL.C, and finally decided to go with CGL (hedged). My thought process was that my investment in gold is meant as a bet against US dollar, so it would make more sense to invest in a hedged option. Now I'm understanding that going with a non-hedged ETF could have dampened my risks, but I think that would have defeated the purpose of an investment in gold which is betting on US dollar depreciation. I would be very interested to hear your thoughts on this!
@JustinBenderCPM
@JustinBenderCPM 3 года назад
@meemmjdn: You're very welcome! Gold is a confusing asset class when it comes to currency-hedging. Even though it transacts in U.S. dollars, it doesn't really have much exposure to the U.S. dollar (so by purchasing a currency-hedged gold ETF, you are gaining a long gold position and a short U.S. dollar position): www.moneysense.ca/columns/claymores-cgl-when-buying-gold-isnt-enough/ www.trustablegold.com/hedging-gold-investments-against-currency-risks
@random8624
@random8624 3 года назад
Thank you for this informative post! I remember reading your post a few years ago about the cost of hedging (futures contracts, etc) eroding the returns of hedged funds (in some cases, up to 1% lower return compared to the US counterpart). Does this still hold true? Thanks!
@JustinBenderCPM
@JustinBenderCPM 3 года назад
@D - PWL's Director of Research, Raymond Kerzerho, wrote about the issues with U.S. currency-hedged products awhile back (here's a summary): www.theglobeandmail.com/featured-reports/article-are-canadians-wasting-billions-on-currency-hedged-etfs/
@ActiveGG
@ActiveGG 3 года назад
I simply thought currency hedged ETFs are for low-risk taker and bought VSP past months but wow thank you! Now I learn. Not selling VSP yet but I will start buying VFV and slowly increasing non-hedged EFT percentage in my portforlio. Do you think it's ok choice for my TFSA?
@JustinBenderCPM
@JustinBenderCPM 3 года назад
@ActiveGG - Glad I could help provide some clarity on currency-hedged ETFs :) TFSAs are a great place to hold most investments (like equities), as long as you don't need the cash for many years.
@fredericbrown8871
@fredericbrown8871 2 года назад
If EMH holds, I would be inclined to think the marginally higher historical return might be anecdotical for equity (was it statistically significant?) and that lower returns should be expected in the long term because of the higher fees. Moreover if the main reason for allocating to foreign equity is diversification and not edging reduces the volatility for hypothetically (slightly) higher returns, that's as close as you can get to a free lunch and I don't see any good reason to hedge foreign equity.
@dt5772
@dt5772 6 месяцев назад
Are the tax implications the same for hedged vs unhedged versions of US or international equity ETFs? (E.g. if held in a taxable account, are witholding taxes recoverable for both)?
@the_noble_lefty
@the_noble_lefty 3 года назад
Great video. I was wondering... if an etf traded on the TSX holding US companies like VFV... I know it’s in Canadian dollars but who pays the currency conversion fees? Is it already factored in the price per share, is it in the MER, etc?
@JustinBenderCPM
@JustinBenderCPM 3 года назад
@the_noble_lefty - The cost of FX conversion would be borne by the ETF investors (it would be factored into the net asset value per share over time), but Vanguard receives institutional rates, so it wouldn't be a significant cost.
@the_noble_lefty
@the_noble_lefty 3 года назад
@@JustinBenderCPM thank you
@rajaseth2577
@rajaseth2577 3 года назад
Hi Justin, Is it not better to buy VSP since VSP is hedged? VFV and VSP have the same MER but VSP is hedged, right? what do you recommend? Can u pl explain a little more? I am in the same situation now as i am looking to invest in either VFV or VSP, Quite a large amount
@JustinBenderCPM
@JustinBenderCPM 3 года назад
@Raja Seth - I've explained everything in the video - have you watched it yet?
@chrissydieb5839
@chrissydieb5839 3 года назад
Thank you very much - great video! As a Swiss investor, I wonder whether the conclusion is different if one is cares about the Swiss franc. 🤔 The Swiss franc as an anti-cyclic („a safe-haven“) currency behaves similar to the USD during a crisis thus USD-CHF hedging is not necessary. Nonetheless, CAD stocks would lose more during a crisis such that CAD-CHF hedging is useful. So overall, the situation is not very clear. In fact, the constant overvaluation of the swiss franc is horrible for investors (and the export industry).😱
@JustinBenderCPM
@JustinBenderCPM 3 года назад
@Chrissy Dieb - I'm glad you liked it! Most of the historical data indicated that a Swiss investor was generally better off hedging away their foreign equity currency exposure (from a risk perspective).
@chrissydieb5839
@chrissydieb5839 3 года назад
Justin Bender Thank you very much for your feedback!
@dorsia4167
@dorsia4167 3 года назад
Excellent video Justin. Is there any difference between hedged and unhedged ETF in a TFSA account? Thank you.
@JustinBenderCPM
@JustinBenderCPM 3 года назад
@A P - Yes, the account type the ETF is held in doesn't impact the currency-hedging strategy. If you buy a currency-hedged ETF in a TFSA, you are not exposed to the underlying foreign currencies.
@dorsia4167
@dorsia4167 3 года назад
@@JustinBenderCPM Thank you. I’m thinking to purchase the following ETF: XIU, XSP 50% - XUS 50%, VEE, VA. What do you think? Any suggestions? I’m new to the ETF.
@JustinBenderCPM
@JustinBenderCPM 3 года назад
@@dorsia4167 - Check out my videos on one-ticket asset allocation ETFs. In my opinion, these are the best ETFs available to DIY investors (especially beginners :)
@juniortj9428
@juniortj9428 4 года назад
Thank you for posting again. What do you think of this portfolio holding allocation of VFV 40%, XIU 30%, XEF 10%, ZAG 20%
@JustinBenderCPM
@JustinBenderCPM 4 года назад
@ Junior TJ - I like the composition of my model ETF portfolios better (cheaper and more diversified). What brought you to this allocation?
@juniortj9428
@juniortj9428 3 года назад
@@JustinBenderCPM I came to this allocation by watching your "understanding etf series" I researched each etf in your videos and I found the allocation of VFV, XIU, XEF and ZAG perform better and have a greater return than your allocation of 20% fixed income 80% equities. Or 40%/60%.
@JustinBenderCPM
@JustinBenderCPM 3 года назад
@@juniortj9428 - Be careful not to base your investment decisions on past performance. Overweighting U.S. equities over the past decade would have resulted in higher performance (but a decade ago, no investor wanted to invest in U.S. equities, as they had performed so poorly over the previous decade). An investor could also invest 100% of their portfolio going forward into a U.S. equity ETF (like VFV), and have a higher past return than your portfolio or any of my model portfolios ... but you can't spend past returns.
@juniortj9428
@juniortj9428 3 года назад
@@JustinBenderCPM Thank you for your feedback. Do you think investing has become more complicated with a lot of ETFs on the market?
@JustinBenderCPM
@JustinBenderCPM 3 года назад
@@juniortj9428 - I think too much product choice can certainly be a roadblock for most investors. But if they only consider the most broadly-diversified and low-cost ETFs available, there are only really around 20 individual ETFs that fit this description (most of these are included in the Canadian Portfolio Manager Model ETF Portfolios): www.canadianportfoliomanagerblog.com/model-etf-portfolios/ Or they could make their investing life even easier by opting for one of the Vanguard or iShares Asset Allocation ETFs.
@Mike_32
@Mike_32 Год назад
Hi love the video just a question I own vfv for my long term retirement, the risk I’m concerned about is if the Cad dollar goes back pair with the US dollar when I retire that would be a -20-30% decrease in the US dollar ( give or take on worst case scenario) and that would be about a 40-50 % gain in the Canadian dollar. If I have 1 million in VFV would if go down 40-50 % because of cad Increase, making the 1 million dollars to 500-600K
@JustinBenderCPM
@JustinBenderCPM Год назад
@Jordan Gaidola - If the USD immediately depreciated from 1.30 to 1.00 relative to the CAD (for a decrease of ~23%), your holding of VFV would decrease by ~23% (so your $1,000,000 would decrease to $770,000).
@Mike_32
@Mike_32 Год назад
@@JustinBenderCPM thank you for your respond I appreciate it , -23% decrease in US dollar , wouldn’t that be a 30 % increase in the cad making a 1 million investment turn to 700k -30% , does it affect the decrease of the USA dollar or the increase in the CAD dollar.
@JustinBenderCPM
@JustinBenderCPM Год назад
@@Mike_32 - If you had $1,000,000 CAD, the the current FX rate was 1.30, then it would currently be worth $769,231 USD ($1,000,000 CAD / 1.30). If the US dollar depreciated to 1.00 CAD, your $769,231 USD would now be worth $769,231 CAD (for a loss in CAD of 23.08%).
@Mike_32
@Mike_32 Год назад
@@JustinBenderCPM thank you I appreciate it!
@tribukahu9335
@tribukahu9335 Год назад
Do you think its better to switch from VFV to VUN? Thank you so much.
@JustinBenderCPM
@JustinBenderCPM Год назад
@Tribu Kahu - ~80% of VUN is made up of the companies in VFV, so the two ETFs are expected to have similar performance over the long-term. However, VUN is slightly more diversified, so I usually opt for it over VFV in portfolios. If there are no tax implications for you of making a switch, you could certainly consider doing so.
@tribukahu9335
@tribukahu9335 Год назад
@Justin & Shannon Bender Thank you so much sir..
@tribukahu9335
@tribukahu9335 Год назад
@Justin & Shannon Bender I am planning to transfer my RRSP from RBC to Wealthsimple..Any advice on which ETF is best for at least 20 years? I already have Xeqt and VUN in my TFSA..Thank you so much..
@RodinThink28
@RodinThink28 2 года назад
At about 8:05, you say under Canadian retirees " For extremely conservative portfolios, currency-hedged ETF's could potentially reduce risk " . Yet soon after, you say that during severe market downturns like the financial crash of 2007-2009 and global pandemic of 2020, the hedged ETF's lost more in value than their un-hedged counterparts. What am I missing here ? For retirees, are hedged ETF's more or less risky than un-hedged ETF's ?
@JustinBenderCPM
@JustinBenderCPM 2 года назад
@EngleHump - When I ran the back-tested analysis, I found that for investors with only 20% of their portfolio allocated to stocks (i.e., extremely conservative), hedging away the currency risk tended to reduce the standard deviation of the overall portfolio in most time periods. However, these currency-hedged conservative portfolios would have still lost slightly more during the financial crisis and the global pandemic than an unhedged portfolio.
@RodinThink28
@RodinThink28 2 года назад
@@JustinBenderCPM Thanks for the clarification. Very useful information in your blogs. Cheers !
@jenm1
@jenm1 3 года назад
Do you think ETFs are generally overvalued?
@JustinBenderCPM
@JustinBenderCPM 3 года назад
@Jen McConnell - ETFs do not become overvalued - it's the underlying asset classes the ETF holds that can become overvalued (but this is the same issue if you're buying mutual funds or individual securities). For example, some consider U.S. stocks to be overvalued (U.S. stocks are the overvalued "asset class" in this example). But you can buy the individual U.S. stocks directly, through a mutual fund, or through an ETF (it's not the security structure that is overvalued, it's the specific asset class).
@jenm1
@jenm1 3 года назад
@@JustinBenderCPM I understand - thank you for clarifying the misinformation out there. Maybe I just misunderstood some articles. Appreciate it nonetheless!
@fasteddie328
@fasteddie328 3 года назад
Can you speak in layman terms please.....
@JustinBenderCPM
@JustinBenderCPM 3 года назад
@Fast Eddie - Is there a particular word or phrase that you're stuck on (or that a quick Google search can't shed some light on)?
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