delta was good about replacing missing parts, set screws,i bought things on amazon under their "used" sub menu, saved a ton,getting the nipple length on the body sprays was a chore,made my own custom lengths
I have had a few valves end up a little shy before. Its devastating. Luckily most of the manufactures make extension kits. You guys did get lucky with that one. Only problem is now the valve is pointing upwards. Maybe most will not notice. Glad that you went to ace for those screws. They saved the day for me earlier today. I like the stops also but I also like the high flow shower valves from delta, but they don't make it with stops. Probably should have grouted before putting the escutcheon back on ;)
@@Vin3Man The delta R10000-UNBXHF is the high flow shower only. Your regular R10000-UNBX will work if it's a tub and shower. But it's not considered high flow for the shower side.
Would have had the same issue on the Grohe fixture we just installed. Not designed for a floated wall. Ended up having to notch the copper supply lines into the denzshield in order to make it work. Only realized it because we did the demo and plumbing and worked alongside tile guy. Otherwise super easy thing to overlook. Great job on the fix.
He turned the screws in on the regulator to turn the water off, but I didn’t see him turn them back on, I bet after the vid they had to disassemble everything again to access those screws. 😬😬
The problem started with the G.C. not providing the plumber with a straight wall to work with, Its not the plumbers job to determine if the wall needs to be floated out.
The issue could have been prevented if the extension kit was already on hand before deciding to float the wall, otherwise the diverter mounting could had been corrected prior to wall plumb correction.
Wondering why you left the plaster guard in. It's not necessary after the tiling is finished. Sometimes it gets in the way. I had one guy install it behind the tile! They definitely couldn't have gotten the trim on that way. I'm sure they had fun removing it! 😂
Rough-in box/Plaster guard has the 4 nuts that the longer screws go into which retains the finish chrome, I have same unit. Crazy the rough-in box has only one screw to the valve body,
Wassup buddy how are u I have a question I only float all my bathrooms I don’t do hardibacker. So u said u have half inch denshield plus half inch float cement mortar that’s already 1 inch plus thinset and tile
9 times out of 10 you can just go to back side of wall and correct it. Simple drywall repair. Way better than busting tile or jacking up the escutcheon crooked.
What depth would you recommend to place the face of plaster guard. When in doubt I usually go with 3/4" out from face of stud. I figure there's a 1/4" of tolerance either way so the tile guy can go with any size backer board standard tile size and all is well.
@TileCoach so if the valves are set too deep, there is an option to put in an extension on the valves? I have an issue with a shower elbow valve being too deep. Can I purchase an extension to bring it out a 1/4 inch? Or do i have to go in from behind in closet wall?
Hey Tile Coach.U think I could send you a video of my upstairs bathroom that was renovated but it is leaking bad.And if u can give me a few scenarios what they did wrong.
i read my instructions ,and still got it wrong,luckily just buying longer screws fixed it,and the trim still fit well,but the mud ring shouldve been out about 3/8 in more
Issac how do you waterproof around that valve(thinking it’s the same as my Delta R22000)? Ie: traditional Valve Seals meant for single valves don’t work, thanks.
Doing a shower remodel now, Kohler is such a headache tho, but more of a headache is my client, changes their mind like a baby changes diapers!!! I know someone feels my pain!!
When you knew the valve was going to work, why did you not take cover back off and grout the entire joint? You only grouted up to the valve cover and not behind it. Water leak.
Probably better shims would be 3/8" copper tubing cut to 1/4" length and placed behind the ears. That way it would allow the set screws to go through them. Wait! Who talks shit about Northern California? No one that's a native. I can't think of anywhere else I'd live. And, I was burned out of Paradise.
You can get guys in high value countries to model it (based off a picture and few dimensions so they can scale) and get it printed for a few bucks in the country your in... i have a printer for annoying diy jobs like this
You got pretty lucky with this one! Normally, it's not this easy. Sometimes depending on how well a plumber fastens the copper lines to a backing further down the vertical run, unscrewing the rough valve portion only tilts the stem and cartridge outward in an angle, in which case, your escutcheon will not sit flat on the finished wall.
OK the only thing I see wrong so far other than what you were describing but at first glance as a project manager I can tell you your design is absolutely beautiful however you’re missing one characteristic that maybe you didn’t know about so I’ll tell you… On the glass enclosure the glass installers should’ve offered the sapphire blue glass as it is absolute clear and when you’re looking at the white on the video you can see the shading of the white shower and it should’ve been absolute clear the customers would’ve been blown away… It’s worth the change out should they decide but look into it and you will see because I hate looking at Beautiful white showers but then seeing a shading and color difference…. 🤔 just a thought 👍
Besides he never removed all the grout with just a couple swipes on the outside of the tile grout line. Time saved. Not hurting a thing. It what I would have done.
This is a JOKE! The guy is NOT a PRO only a utuber. Any real contractor would have measured everything in advance before applying the backboard and tile. Along with allowing for the thinset wether it was an eighth inch or a quarter inch depth on it depending on the size of the tiles. A real contractor would NOT have removed the grout before trying to adjust the valve and most of them would have went to the back wall and cut a hole in the drywall did it that way and then just patched the drywall. A lot easier and a lot quicker!
What's funny here is these shower valves a DIY guy can purchase have a lot of forgiveness in them, especially the Delta products. You start getting into Ghroe or California Faucets, you and the plumber better be on the same page. I floated everything and found if you set the thing between 1 5/8" and 1 3/4" they fit come payday, the day you set the trim. The problem most people have is they just attach the new valve to the existing water supplies thinking that's where it goes. Guys like us should know better than this. When you figured out you had to float that wall, someone should have got the tape measure out.
good thing you didn't have to bust any tiles out - I don't see how you could have made it 100% waterproof again... also looks like it's pointing up now..
I’m glad it worked out for him, but I would like to see a video of a pro removing and replacing a tile or a few tiles that are installed on a sheet membrane or roll on membrane. Tile Coach actually said what he expected to happen if he removed them from the fleece-like membrane. I wonder what would likely happen on a roll on membrane? I was thinking the membrane would just separate from the backer board. Would this damage the backer board? Or could a new layer just be brushed/rolled on. Hmm.
I love your videos, I just wanted to make some suggestions if I may! I would put some kind of blanket or protection on the floor because the pieces may fall and chip your beautiful tile job, also I would have grouted it before I put the cover plate. Great job as usual👍
Nothing worse than a valve roughed to deep in a wall with custom hand picked tiles and a trim that they do not make extension kits for! Spent many of long hours in multi million dollar homes going threw the same scenario! Good Job!
All through wall finish valves should be adjustable in some method. I am installing a shower valve with exposed shower head riser. Zero adjustment available. Worst case I will have to grind down the ring. I am trying to leave some gap that would just leave some of the valve copper exposed if it ends up to far out.
Bro has much more skill than me as a GC. But look. This is why I hate the float option you use. Just get the walls plumb and square before you rock the walls and then you’re good. With all due respect, just my .02 Love your work and channel.
This is the only video that I can find on the entire internet showing the installation of a Delta T27T997 Two-handle temperature 17T valve trim with setting diverter. Since Im probably not the only person frustrated with delta for showing the diverter install without the valve trim, I posted a link to this video on the Delta site showing installation of the associated R22000 Diverter Rough.
You should check at your local plumbing supply house for someone who knows a delta rep, they usually either got the good stuff or can get it on the fly!
Can you do a video on water absorption rate for tile? What tiles to use in showers given their water absorption rates. Maybe even an experiment with tile with high absorption rates submerge in water compared to tiles with low absorption rates, etc.
Hey Dude - I commented on your glass brick cutting video pointing out your bad work practices in it that may be copied by other people and now it seems that my comments aren't being replied to or liked - have you blocked me ?? I hope you haven't - Cheers
Just curious, who pays for that (repair,surgery?)(if tile removal is needed) Plumber or tile guy o homeowner? It's definitely NOT our fault when a wall NEEDS to be floated because wall boarders refuse to make Flat walls with the extra 5 mins it would take to wet shim and ot shim.🤷♂️
I'm a plumber, when I install a shower valve I ask the tile guy how thick everything will be. If it comes out thicker than that it's not my problem is it?
The plumber set the valve in the wall and then you floated the wall out. The tile installer should’ve stopped work and informed the plumber that the finished wall surface is out of plumb and will require floating out and the valve must be checked for repositioning. Why is the tile installer installing the plumbing trim ? This is a clown show
Exactly. Not sure why he gives himself a pass on that. Also, smearing the grout around that trim plate......I wouldn't like to see that plate's finish scratched and damaged from the abrasion of the grout. He seems to be more focused on filming than doing a competent job.
This happened to us so many times we used to just have extra extension kits. It's also helpful if the plumber checks the walls, and or what the tile setters plan is.
When I install a shower valve I ask the tile guy how thick the tile and everything will be I put the shower valve at the appropriate depth. If it comes out thicker than that then it's not my problem.
@@PlumbNutz Yeah we did allot work in post WWII track homes. Some were just the worst nothing square, plumb, level or even parallel. On a tight budget, we had to be creative sometimes to do a good job, and have be right.
You learn as a tile guy to always check them. The whole “not my job” thing costs everyone. First thing I check when I’m told “shower is ready for you”.
The valve instructions usually say have the edge of the plaster guard within certain measurements of the proposed finished wall. Unfortunately the last (off brand) valve didn't have clear measurements regarding the finished wall. Ended up too deep in wall. Now "praying" for an available extension kit! 🙏🏾😳😊