thokmay la tashi delek once again... your every video clip made me so proud and courage feeling towards me. so please keep in touch .... god bless ... long live hh the dalai lama ...
Really love your talk.. I always thought CTA & major institute do not need to make hand dirty by giving much space to Schugden problem. It can be handled at individuals level by people of Tibet more effectively.
Yes I will post today about these issues. We all Tibetan should aware of what really happened and what is Shugden? Shugden is destroying Tibet now. If you look closely and read between the line. Thanks for support! Now Chinese government using Shugden as a political tools.
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I am just following your videos n about history of which I am not aware of .. Thank you n we are always with you gen lak.... Long live HH dalia lama ....
wow, thank you for sharing your thoughts thokmey la, i hope and prey every younger generation of tibetan watch this and learn something. Really without His Holiness Dalai Lama we tibetans will not have what we have today.
Nice talk..thank you. ..the way of your talk is reasonable .Please gen la talk through dialog like debate. ..should have put some reasonable matters in their mind. By peacefully talk as sympathetic for them..shugden followers. We will hope them better to know more about that spirit from gen thupten la...good luck.
Prithvi Raj (PR), Chief Police of Kangra District: We have identified two of the murderers, and we have clear indications that the murderers are directly linked to the Shugden association and directly connecting these murderers with the case. But so far we have not been able to arrest them. One is called Tenzin Chozin, the other is called Lobsang Chodrak. Before the murder, the principal received threatening letters from the Shugden association.
The Fifth Dalai Lama Folio 157 (front and back) of the autobiography of the Fifth Dalai Lama (1617-1682) called Dukulai Gosang, Volume Kha, Lhasa Publication: It is well known that at Dhol Chumig Karmo[1] a very powerful perfidious interfering spirit (dam sri)[2,] born due to distorted prayers, has been harming the teaching of the Buddha and sentient beings in general and in particular. The harmful activity has intensified since the firebird year (1657) and (the spirit) has been successful in many of his missions. However, hardly anyone has taken any action, as if this did not concern him or her. So, at the end of the earth-bird year (1669) a new house was constructed at Dhol Chumig Karmo and articles were placed there in the hope that it would become a place for the Gyalpo to settle. However, his harmful activities only intensified and recently many lay and ordained people have been afflicted with diseases and a few monks have died. Therefore, all the monks unanimously decided that a fire ritual should be performed. Consequently, two groups of practitioners were organised. One was led by Nagrampa Dhondup Gyatso, who acted as the Vajra Acharya of (a performance of) the Dorje Drolo ritual and the other was led by Nangjung Ngagchang Losang Khyentse, who acted as the Vajra Acharya of (a performance of the) Yangsang Karma Dragpo ritual. Likewise Rigzin Pema Thinley of Dorje Drag, Dharma King Terdag Lingpa, Vugja Lungpa, Drigung Tulku Rinpoche, Katshal Zurpa Ngari Konchok Lhundup and Palri Tulku performed the Wrathful Lama, Yama, Phurba, Loktri practice for seven days, at the conclusion of which a fire-ritual was performed during which the 'perfidious interfering spirit’ and his entourage were burnt. Everybody was convinced (of its success because of) the appearance of wonderful signs and the smell of burning flesh that everybody witnessed. Thus, many sentient beings were explicitly granted the gift of fearlessness because their lives were saved. Moreover, indirectly these creatures (‘byung po)[3] were delivered to the peaceful state of being released from having to experience the intolerable suffering of bad states of rebirth due to their increasing negative actions. At that time a testimony[4] was written to indicate that these creatures or evil spirits were without protection and refuge and (consequently) the Dardhingpas of Dorje Drag Monastery compiled mantras. As a religious practice for the deceased, Sera and Drepung Monasteries performed the Prayer of the White Umbrella Deity 44,000 times and recited the Heart Sutra 118,000 times during eleven sessions during which tea was offered in each monastery. At sixty-seven other well-disciplined monasteries in the neighbourhood, monks were requested to perform the White Umbrella Prayer as many as possible for the deceased. At Yerpa the Gyuto monks performed the prayer of appeasement of Gonpo (Mahakala) and Choegyal (Dharmaraja) 693 times, Tenma Shasana 1,121,800 times, (Sixty Section Ritual Cake Offering to Overcome Evil) Drugchu pai Tordog. At Choekhor Gyal they performed rituals to (Palden Lhamo) Magzorma, to Mahakala the Lord of the Tent (Gur and zhal), and to Begtse and at Gatshal they performed the prayer of appeasing the Dharma protectors in general 10000 times and the prayers of the Six Armed (Mahakala), Leshin and Vaishravana (rNam sre) 1000 times. At 11 district capitals they performed the Prayer for Invoking the Spirit of the Deity to Vanquish the Enemy (dgra-lha-dpangs-bstod) and other practices to appease local deities and spirits. Notes: Dhol Chumig Karmo is Shugden’s place of origin, where a shrine was constructed to him. He is also referred as Dholgyal because he is a Gyalpo from Dhol Chumig Karmo. Gyalpo refers to a class of evil spirit. Since Shugden belong to this group, he is also called Gyalchen, the great Gyalpo. Dam sri, a transgressive interfering spirit, is the spirit of one who has deliberately breached his oath or commitment to his lama out of resentment and dissension. ‘Byung po means creature or evil spirit. Zur dpang refers to a testimony or the deposition of a witness. Translation of the testimony that the Fifth Dalai Lama (1617-1682) mentions in his autobiography. The original Tibetan can be found on page 148 front and back (English pages 423 and 424) of the volume Da of his Collected Works published in Gangtok, Sikkim. "Because of the manipulations of Lag Agyal (the mother) of Gekhasa, the false reincarnation of Tulku Sonam Geleg Palsang (Tulku Dakpa Gyaltsen) got his way (and was installed as the successful candidate). However, because of distorted prayers he became a perfidious spirit (dam sri) and brought serious harm to sentient beings. Therefore, a total of seven groups of practitioners led by (Pema Trinley) Rinpoche of Dorje Drag, Choegyal Terdag Lingpa, Choeje Vugja Lungpa, Ngari Ngagchang Konchok Lhundup, Palri Tulku and two groups of practitioners of Phende Legshe Ling (Namgyal Dratsang) performed a ritual fire offering and burnt the interfering spirit. This is the declaration I have written at that time. To the deities, Legden, Chagdrug, Leshin and Magzor. To the oath bound protectors Gongzhi, Gonpo, Chamsre and Begtse, etc. Who have been propitiated and whose practice (has been done) I offer this sublime libation. The so-called Dragpa Gyaltsen pretends to be a sublime being, Even though he is not, And since this interfering spirit and creature of distorted prayers Do not support, protect or give him shelter, but grind him to dust. To the female protectors like Nodjin Yangghaza, etc. and Gyalpo Ku-nga, Khyabjug, Dorje Leg and particularly Nechung and his entourage I offer this sublime libation. The so-called Dragpa Gyaltsen pretends to be a sublime being, Even though he is not, And since this interfering spirit and creature of distorted prayers Is harming everything - both the dharma and sentient beings - Do not support, protect or give him shelter, but grind him to dust. To the seven Barwa brothers like Tse-marpa etc. And likewise Setrab of Sangphu etc. - the wrathful gods and spirits Among whom this negative spirit seeks support - I offer this sublime libation. The so-called Dragpa Gyaltsen pretends to be a sublime being, Even though he is not, And since this interfering spirit and creature of distorted prayers Is harming everything - both the dharma and sentient beings - Do not support, protect or give him shelter, but grind him to dust. Having agreed before the root and lineage lama Vajra Dharas To increase what is good and beneficial to sentient beings and the dharma, If you protect this perfidious spirit, Will you not cause your own past pledges to degenerate? There are groups of interfering spirits who display inopportune miracles In the form of human sickness, cattle disease, hailstorms, famine and drought. May their power and ability Their body, speech and mind be smashed into tiny particles.
I have been liking this video over n over but i cant seem to like this video. Wondering if this is just me/my device or some hackers don't let people do it?
Thupten la, we agree with you. More Tibetans needs to now speak up. Thanks for the clarification. Some one needs to do an english subtitle. Pabongka and his shugden fanatics in eastern Tibet, destoryed Guru Rinpoche statues, destroyed and converted Nyingma monastery, banned Guru prayer, destroyed Nyingma scriptures Pema Kathang.
Hey check this out. This is the story about Phabongkha. Phabongkhapa Dechen Nyingpo (1878-1941) On pages 471-2 front and back of the Tibetan text of the biography of Phabongkhapa Dechen Nyingpo (1878-1941) composed by his student Denma Losang Dorje and published by the Nyimo Publisher Palden, the following account is found: "(Here is) an appeal from me, Phabongkhapa, holding the name of an incarnate, in accordance with an instruction that I have received from you through Tse Khendron Chenmo. (I am glad that) you have received my application of 22nd of the 12th month last year, and I am grateful that you have kindly clarified each and every point therein. It was entirely my mistake and I have absolutely nothing to say (to defend it). It will be my endeavour in the future to take the meaning of your instructions earnestly to heart and I ask your forgiveness for whatever mistakes I have made in my appeal." Phabongkhapa quotes the Dalai Lama's letter: "With regard to the three points mentioned here, there is still much ground for debate, both in logical and scriptural terms, but this is enough for the time being. With regard to your reference to making endeavour in the practice of taking refuge, first of all you are propitiating Shugden (Dolgyal) as a protector. Since they received Lamrim teachings from you at the Drepung Monastic Religious Centre last year and so made a connection with you, propitiation of Shugden among students there has greatly increased. The Great Nechung Choegyal who from the very beginning was commanded and entrusted to protect and guard this monastery, expressed his displeasure to the Drepung Lachi several times, saying that (due to propitiating Dolgyal) the degeneration of the Buddha dharma had been speeded up. This is the source of his displeasure. I feel that your seeking the support of a wrathful worldly spirit (to secure benefits in) this life specifically contradicts the precepts of taking refuge. Therefore, your statement, ‘I want to say from the depths of my heart that it is only due to my being confused by ignorance and not that I have knowingly entered an unwholesome path and led others onto the same path.’ is contradictory." Phabongkhapa answers: "You have therefore instructed me to give you an answer. I have propitiated Shugden until now because my old mother told me that Shugden is the deity of my maternal lineage. I wish to inform you that henceforth, with intense regret (for what is past) and (with the intention of) restraining my faults (in the future), I will never again propitiate (Shugden) or make daily offerings and supporting prayers and that I will wholeheartedly keep this commitment in the core of my heart. Whatever mistakes I have committed until now, such as having become a cause for the mental displeasure of the Great Nechung Choegyal, contradicting the precepts of taking refuge and so forth, I request you, the supreme protector, who is especially compassionate to the lowly, to regard me with love and great compassion and patiently to forgive me. With great respect I here offer one silk scarf as a medium of request and five silver coins (to contribute to the) mandala offering.
Jigme Dhamchoe Gyatso (1898-1947) The following account is found on pages 394 and 395 of the Biography of Jigme Dhamchoe Gyatsho (1898-1947) by the Dhomey scholar Tsetan Zhabdrung (1910-1985), first published in June 1987. "Some of the followers of Ven. Phabongkha Dechen Nyingpo Rinpoche engaged in heated argument over the systems of philosophical tenets of the new and the ancient traditions. They engaged in many mistaken activities such as destroying images of Padmasambhava and other peaceful and wrathful deities. They said that reciting the mantra of the Vajra Guru is of no value and would destroy the Padma Kathang (by burning it or throwing it into rivers.) Similarly, they asserted that turning Mani prayer wheels, observing weekly prayers for the deceased, and so forth are of no purpose and so placed many on the path of wrong view. They held Gyalpo Shugden (Dolgyal) as the supreme refuge and the embodiment of all the Three Jewels. Many monks from minor monasteries in the southern area, claiming to be possessed by Shugden, ran madly in all directions destroying the three symbols of enlightenment (images, scriptures and stupas) and so forth. Displaying many such faults they greatly harmed the teachings of the second conqueror, Je Tsongkhapa. Therefore, if you were to compose an advisory letter for everyone’s benefit and were to publish it and distribute it throughout the three provinces of U, Tsang and Kham, it would greatly contribute to counteracting such disturbances to the teaching.
Thupten Thokmey Thu che chay. this are the proof we need. Pabongka acted like the Taliban and ISIS today. Pabonka was extremely sectrarian too. He said Islams, Hindu and Christianity are barbaric and Nyingmas, Sakyas, Bons and Kagyuks are worst. Can you translate these proof also.
Shugden followers are very dangerous people. They are planing to harm HH Dalai lama. This is a fact. We all know about this. They already have murdered three people in Dharamsala, India. We all have to be very careful about this. These are evil people. So, I have talked about this numerous time in my videos with harsh measures. I can't speak to these evil people with gentle manners. So, please be aware of it. Thank you!
Tokmey Yes they are very dangerous and they will also invade the world and also maybe the universe also hahah lol tokmey please wake up from your illusion man
Thupten thokmey la. You have make the different fore shuden and others. But all Tibetan have friendship fore each other and have stay peacefully. Please.please.think.
Thupten thokmey la. H.h.dalia lama la have not make the different shuden people's and other people's. H.h.dalia lama have respected fore shuden people's and also have respected fore other people's. H.h.dalia lama la have advice fore all the people's. All the people's have same . So thupten thokmey la have please.please.think.