SICP: the end of an era

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Trecho da palestra "Flexible Systems: The Power of Generic Operations", proferida por Gerald Jay Sussman, no NYC Lisp Meetup em 7/jan/2016, no qual ele explica o motivo do MIT ter substituído a disciplina MIT 6.001, com Scheme, por outras disciplinas com Python. O vídeo original com o conteúdo integral da palestra está disponível na internet (vimeo.com/151465912). Aproveite e INSCREVA-SE no canal, deixe seu LIKE e mande um COMENTÁRIO com sua crítica, elogio, sugestão ou pergunta! Obrigado por assistir!
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@insertoyouroemail 2 года назад

This video made me a little bit sad. I picked up SICP a few years ago and I'm 100% into Scheme right now.

@hugoestrada2089

Talk about having a great amount of humility. He wrote what many consider the best textbook on programming of all time, and he understood that it wasn't appropriate for the times. So much respect for this man

@AlexRodriguez-gb9ez

"For reasons no one understands Python aquired a massive library of stuff you can do"... The guy who invented Python Guido did research on what stuff was easy to understand and read in programming and they made it so that Python only has one "obvious" way to do things, and that Python wasn't powerful enough to have macros (although you could use Hy with Python to have macros). Python also had a massive standard library that was battery included ala Java. This meant that Python's community didn't fracture. Python people tended to focus on using libraries to do stuff rather than trying to do advanced LISP stuff.

@RandolphCrawford Год назад

So the goal of MIT's 4 course into to EECS and SICP before 1997 was merely to move robots around? And the new and improved paradigm for doing engineering at MIT is to use trial and error to find the right mix of Python functions to do the same thing today, but now, without understanding how it got there?

@beguiledfoil Год назад

I hope no one is confused about why python is so well loved. The fact that pythonic is a synonym for beauty is highly suggestive.

@flaviacristinasouzacardoso3668 2 года назад

Muito bom esse vídeo legendado, obrigada!

@nagoranerides3150 Год назад

In an era where people want to spend an hour or two being wrong in depth it's good to see someone brave enough to show how wrong they can be in just 7 minutes.

@0011101001101 Год назад

Empirically exploring how a black box component part behaves and can be used, rather than understanding it from the fundamentals up, is increasingly relevant as AI systems are incorporated as component parts of applications. To Sussman's point, this has been true for a long time since component parts became too complex for one person or one team to understand top to bottom. While I wish for essential simplicity, it's hard to disagree this is the right emphasis.

@annaczgli2983 Год назад

And now times are changing again. Now I don't even have to care about Python, as GPT codes most of it. I just have to direct it appropriately.

@reijin999 Год назад

Modern Python is very much in the same vain as the SICP philosophy though. It's about making a large thing out of smaller things, just with less transparency. Most sophisticated Python programs start with a staggering number of import statements and those smaller modules are then glued together to build a larger program.

@Filaxsan Год назад

What a man! A piece of history for real.

@xixiaofin

I'm studying the SICP video series of this great man here:

@chenchen8688 Год назад

thanks for shareing,it is pretty!

@NalaGinrut Год назад

Python can do things easier in prototyping, but it's the different "easy" from what Scheme was introduced. You can do easy things with Python because you ignore the implementation of the library. While the easy in Scheme is to implement the same things but ingnore the low-level details. Think about Scheme only skip few layers, but Python skip much more. For Python, it is not the "hidden" behind the abstract. It's the blackbox for prototyping. For Scheme, we care about and be able to control the abstract easily.

@ilkinq.8646 Год назад

if you have english subtitles too please add it though

@jllucas.santos Год назад

"ok?"

@lhd7105 Год назад

So unfortunately I cannot speak this language :(

@user-mo7ge4cw3x

SICP is the best programming course, and schema is the best programming language. And python is shit, and it doesn't matter how many libraries are written to it.