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Some people hate Side by Side shotguns. Ant is one of those people! Simon is not!
What happens when we lock them in a room at a clay course with a bunch of amazing side by sides... will Ant be convinced?
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@tomyorke3412
@tomyorke3412 Год назад
If your around a Gentleman like Simon you cant help but smile.
@r12e5p
@r12e5p Год назад
I love how Simon got Jon Richardson to realize that side by sides aren't so bad to shoot after all 😇
@martinhambleton5076
@martinhambleton5076 Год назад
I occasionally take a side by side game shooting and love it. Back in the early 80s, I think a few eyebrows would have been raised if you didn't game shoot with a side by side. I was invited as a guest back in the 80s when I was in my 20s and had to take an over and under as my side by side would not close properly. The shoot captain made me feel quite small, questioning its validity on a game shoot. I thought that he was completely over the top about it. I explained that my side by side was being repaired, and this was the only other gun I had. One of the other shooters could see that I was very uncomfortable with the line of questioning, saying to him, "Don't be such an old fart Gordon, If it was left to you, we would be crapping in a shed at the end of the garden. As you can imagine, it lightened an awkward moment, causing great hilarity. Nowadays, you very rarely see a side by side on a game shoot.
@NOC1TIME
@NOC1TIME 8 месяцев назад
Haven't picked up a sxs in over 40yrs. I sat my semi autos on the rack. Bought a new 20 bore sxs. Shot four of six chucker out of the box. Not bad for an old dude and his spoiled German shorthair. Thanks to you sir. Well done.
@buserror
@buserror Год назад
I often shoot a 1870 damascus barrels hammer gun at game, and it's gorgeous, and I shoot it like hell, but I tell people that even if I miss, I bloody miss *in style* 🙂 One thing I would disagree a bit with the instructor is the forend hold -- HE demonstrated he actually *holds* the barrels and that's the way to do it, you can't 'lean' the forend on your hand like you do with a heavy O/U clay gun, you need to keep control of that forend, especially for the followup shot. That's my opinion anyway, I don't GRIP the forend, but I hold the barrels. And yes, it means that on some crossers, your fingers are in the way but you have to go at them on trust -- you won't see them. Pretty much exactly as when you shoot driven where you never really see the bird as you shoot thru it. As far as cart, I once straighed one of the FITASC at Andy Castle with my hammer gun shooting CompX 21g, and I was shooting with a pristinely clad Clay Shooter with all the gear, the Perazzi, the Fancy Gamebore, and the hand towel -- who obviously was gobsmacked that I was there shooting 60 yarders with 21g and an antique. Makes you day ;-)
@alex1126gobages
@alex1126gobages Год назад
Nice video ! As a young hunter, i use 16ga sxs only for woodcock and small birds hunting here in France.
@keilamking
@keilamking Год назад
what we all needed especially as a side by side shooter myself and never shot anything else at 18 love it guys keep it up
@leifhoklin2681
@leifhoklin2681 Год назад
Punctuation goes a long way towards making your comments readable.
@mallardcutter7209
@mallardcutter7209 Год назад
Here in the states we are seeing a resurgence of sorts in doubles.
@pauljcomp6621
@pauljcomp6621 Год назад
Older SXS are very expensive. Even the heavy clunkers get sucked up by Turkey Hunters.
@markbutters5829
@markbutters5829 Год назад
When I had a lesson many years ago by Ernie who had retired and had coached for Galloyn at Cambridge shooting ground, after a few shots the first thing he said to me was do you watch the ball or the bat. He was all about footwork and position to take instinctive shots which as a walked up rough shooter served me well. That probably explains which I can shoot let's say rabbit on clays easy but long crossing birds with to much sky and time get the better of me. Good video keep them coming
@joegraziano5849
@joegraziano5849 Год назад
Great video. I’ve loved SxS shotguns since I was a teenage. I bought my first one at 16, a 20 gauge Spanish Kasnar import with money from my newspaper route. I’ve loved them ever since. For regulation clays shooting and long targets, it’s hard to beat an O/U. But I don’t enjoy it nearly as much. TGS and Simon, keep up the great work!
@lankyjeep8432
@lankyjeep8432 Год назад
I love my over under for clay shooting, but I would love a classic hammer gun SxS for both game and for just a little bit of fun with friends on the clay fields, nothing looks classier than a nice SxS to me and even if they aren’t popular I think they will always have a place in shooting
@davidcaul7836
@davidcaul7836 Год назад
Really enjoyed that guys I started shooting with a sxs 30 years ago I think I am going to get one for my 50th birthday.
@sofalugger
@sofalugger Год назад
Have both types ...and can shoot nigh on equally...Love it when youngsters come up to me and say "My grandad used to shoot them!!"..
@jac2275
@jac2275 Год назад
Superb video. I fully agree and enjoy shooting side by sides on a daily basis. Finally, what is wrong with spanish boxlocks? The ancient ones were really superb! You should investigate more about that
@pauljcomp6621
@pauljcomp6621 Год назад
I have a shunned Model 30 Ugartechea, incredibly dynamic taker of doves and I get actually take it into the woods if needed.
@levischenk2668
@levischenk2668 Год назад
Thank you! Love the SXS videos with Simon. Adding Ant to the mix was wonderful. Look forward to the next.
@markcraddock5460
@markcraddock5460 Год назад
Well done I've got to say I just love sitting on the foreshore with my side by side in my grasp!
@michaelhicks708
@michaelhicks708 Год назад
I am nearing 82 years of age and I shoot side by sides and over and unders also semi autos, but lately I am seeing many shooting friends mainly the younger shooters getting rid of over and unders and purchasing side by sides, also quite a few gun makers are now producing new side by side guns, what goes round comes round !
@napalmhotdog4365
@napalmhotdog4365 Год назад
I am of the new generation of shooters. I’m only 21 but have been fortunate enough to shoot for 11 years. I’ve shot everything, with every type of gun. Krieghoffs to Boswells. But I shoot almost everything with a 28 bore hammer gun, and it’s coveted by many in my demographic. Who would have thought.
@martynf65uk
@martynf65uk Год назад
I shot my 725 MK2 for 5 years and I'm not bad at all with it. In the last year, I've added a modern heavy year old SxS with multi choke & single trigger, TWO hammer action SxS's and a 75 Victor Sarasqueta 6E twin trigger fixed choke. These 3 SxS's join my A400 semi auto and 325 & 725 O/U. The ones I love shooting the most are the SxS's. I'm somewhere down the middle of the age range and I have seen more and more SxS on the clay ranges. They are not dead.
@forddude1976
@forddude1976 Год назад
Come on Ant your own channel, following your work life and shooting.
@dave_724
@dave_724 Год назад
I shot my £170 side by side a couple of weeks ago it was a lot of fun even hit some big targets I think if I was to only own one gun and clay shooting and semi automatics didn’t exist it would be another side by side. I grew up shooting them and I don’t see any style difference between shooting a side by side or my current semi auto I like a fast handling gun that can be shot with minimal effort.
@tonyemans4512
@tonyemans4512 Год назад
Enjoyed watching that, yes at over 100 years old they are true craftsman built. How man modern O/U will be about in another 100 years?
@markwierzbicki5307
@markwierzbicki5307 Год назад
Another great video which I have watch four time, just to catch some of the shooting tips.
@bruceyeoward6544
@bruceyeoward6544 Год назад
I have the sister gun to the big Boswell, BLNE 12ga, 8lb 8oz, 3", 1 1/2oz, 32", F&F, file cut wide flat top rib. Scroll engraved with chequered side panels, high figure stock. Shoots just like Simon's. Good instruction by Simon move the gun by rotating the hip and shoulders, not pushing and pulling with the arms. I haven't used CYL choke but skeet choke can break targets out a lot further than expected with hard shot ie 6% antimony.
@airbhidhmacpharlain
@airbhidhmacpharlain Год назад
A most enjoyable episode, thank you. I began my love of shooting with a Browning under/over, and within a few years became bored and switched to side-by-side game guns exclusively for EVERYTHING. The past forty years I have owned a number of vintage English, and contemporary Basque guns and enjoyed all of them. I particularly relish an observation Mr. Reinhold has either made or eluded to a number of times which is, 'the fun is in learning how to shoot these guns', and I concur wholeheartedly. I liked, too, his remarks about light cartridges. Our British shooting forebears perfected shotgun ballistics over a hundred years ago, and 'more is not better', lads. It has mystified me to see British cartridge manufacturers producing loads not too very unlike the American 'cannon loads.' I break clays and kill gamebirds with fibre wad, 1200 fps, 24 gram cartridges in my new AyA rounded action boxlock ejector (a beautiful, lovely handling gun, by the way), and 24 or 28 gram, fibre wad, 1200 fps cartridges in my English Webley & Scott boxlock ejector gun; little recoil and deadly results. Again, a wonderful and thoroughly entertaining addition to the other TGS side-by-side gun videos!
@LoneMechanic
@LoneMechanic Год назад
I just bought a Fabarm Classis 20 sxs and love it for clay shooting.
@scottbrooks7978
@scottbrooks7978 16 дней назад
Interested to know what chokes Simon prefers for shooting sporting clays (ounce load lead not steel)
@fullchoke01
@fullchoke01 Год назад
Everyone should have a sxs, even if its just to take out of cabinet and look at
@stevewright6333
@stevewright6333 Год назад
I love a side by side, Got a Rigby myself. Can't shoot it properly for toffee. Would love someone like Simon to show me how to do it properly so I could enjoy it more.
@sunsetgundog
@sunsetgundog Год назад
Must try my 7/8 & full sxs on trap. It doesn't like big loads so I hope 24g will work!
@pauljcomp6621
@pauljcomp6621 Год назад
With SXS prices declining: If you are a younger person who really enjoys shotgunning, do find one for your safe. As you get older and get bored with the Autoloader you will be glad you did. Find a good one at the best price you can afford and it keep it at around 6.5 pounds or less. Pounds - Weight. I'm hearing that in England the prices are really dropping so its probably a great opportunity.
@draklord18283
@draklord18283 Год назад
Talking about SxS, I would love to hear what yall think of J.P Clabrough & Bros shotguns.
@joshuaregrut3150
@joshuaregrut3150 7 месяцев назад
Are u guys using modern shells in the shotguns
@anthonyhamilton-smith8494
@anthonyhamilton-smith8494 Год назад
And now I'm looking at bidding on 3 different hammer guns at auction tomorrow!!!
@jlducey
@jlducey 6 месяцев назад
What shotgun are they using at the 12 minute mark??
@chrissywhiskers
@chrissywhiskers Год назад
Such a great video. Would be a wonderful experience to spend a morning with Simon and some of his side-by-sides. I own a 26-inch sarasquetta 12-bore for walked up days and I really like it but it’s ugly and beat to sh*t. Would love to have a go with some more refined sbs!
@zermomia
@zermomia Год назад
Where I live such thing cost a looooot cause there are any new shotgun imported.
@tommyleemaddox1033
@tommyleemaddox1033 Год назад
This is great stuff!!
@hammyh1165
@hammyh1165 Год назад
The side x side is old hat , they just instill a sense of nostalgia and that's why people like them . Give it twenty years when most of the older shooters have died off or stopped shooting, you'll hardly see one. Same with classic cars , the popular cars just now are 70's and 80's another 10 years and itll be 90's and 2000's.
@manatoa1
@manatoa1 Год назад
Nah
@pauljcomp6621
@pauljcomp6621 Год назад
No, especially in the US. Please export all unwanted SXS to the US.
@muhammadjahangir1260
@muhammadjahangir1260 Год назад
very very beautiful
@original5065
@original5065 Год назад
Great video
@Jolly56Roger
@Jolly56Roger Год назад
28 gram sellier & bellot plas 7's more is better they are
@jerroldshelton9367
@jerroldshelton9367 10 месяцев назад
The first shotgun I ever fired was an uncle's 28 gauge A y A No. 2. That's also the first gun I broke clay and killed quail with. When I got my first shotgun, it was a 20 gauge pump, and I couldn't wait until I was 18 and old enough to buy a gun closer to my uncle's A y A. On my 18th birthday, I bought a 20 gauge Ugartechea Model 30. I was still in high school. Now, on the clays course, I'd rather shoot my 28 gauge Yildiz SPZ ME, but shooting Callipepla californica, also known as "California quail" or "valley quai," it's a light, sub-gauge, splinter fore-end, straight gripped, double-trigger side by side that I still consider the right tool for the job, and what I'd rather have for close-flushing birds. I sold my Ugaretechea Model 30 in preparation to upgrade to a 28 gauge A y A 4/53 when I got side-tracked by the 28 gauge Yildiz SPZ ME O/U. It worked out for the best, as I wound up inheriting the 28 gauge A y A No.2 that I first hunted quail with, and having that, I'd have no need for a 4/53. As long as there's an Arizona desert north of Scottsdale that has valley quail to bring to bag, and as long as I am breathing air, the whole rest of the world might be finished with side by side guns, but I won't be until I breathe my last breath.
@TheTerryE
@TheTerryE Год назад
I hope not. It's all I know how to use!
@kenlansing1216
@kenlansing1216 Год назад
Just persevere, he'll come around sooner or later. Possibly later.
@batmantiss
@batmantiss Год назад
It's a tough sell...I wouldn't throw one away if someone gave it to me...
@karlsailor
@karlsailor Год назад
Almost had him
@adrianneedham2373
@adrianneedham2373 Год назад
I’m with Ant on this one spectacular to look at but over and under to use (can’t hit a 45 gallon drum with sxs)
@ChemicalShots
@ChemicalShots Год назад
I'm seeing more and more switch to semi autos more than anything. I struggle to now see the need of an over under or side by side apart from preference or an extra choke choice.
@napalmhotdog4365
@napalmhotdog4365 Год назад
It’s traditional in the uk. All game shooting is done with side by sides or over and unders. It’s very very unusual to shoot game with a semi auto, and as so many competitors in clay shooting also shoot game, they choose to shoot both with the same (or same style of) gun.
@ChemicalShots
@ChemicalShots Год назад
@@napalmhotdog4365 I know it's traditional I started on an over under but after switching to a semi auto I now don't see any benefit to a side by side or over under apart from a extra choke option. At the end of the day it's how well you can use that gun but I see semi autos just getting more and more popular for sure here in the UK
@stog9821
@stog9821 Год назад
@@ChemicalShots I’m in the States, where semiautomatics and pumps are very popular, but being a bit shorter than average, I find the doubles a tad more comfortable to shoot. Of course, they kick hard than a semiauto, but when hunting I don’t usually fire all that many shots.
@ChemicalShots
@ChemicalShots Год назад
@@stog9821 That's a good point that I didn't consider, my 28inch A400 is as long as a the 32inch over unders. So maybe for people on shorter side it's not ideal
@napalmhotdog4365
@napalmhotdog4365 Год назад
@@ChemicalShotsthere is no benefit to a double barrelled gun at all. That’s not the point, it’s supposed to be sporting.
@sn00pgreen
@sn00pgreen Год назад
webley 700 28" choked half and three quarters..all I ever need
@maureenmillard4241
@maureenmillard4241 Год назад
If they ever ban lead for all shotgunning and don’t find an alternative, most classic SxS will be made obsolete! Cant shoot steel in them. Mal in au.
@tgsoutdoors
@tgsoutdoors Год назад
Incorrect, most are ok with standard steel and all are good for bismuth
@maureenmillard4241
@maureenmillard4241 Год назад
@@tgsoutdoors yep! No go if you have more than 1/2 choke ,lotsof 3/4+ full plus some full and full like my Pops Greener live pigeon sxs.
@ShotawayFilms
@ShotawayFilms Год назад
Well chaps the AntShank redemption attempt failed.Not a bad try though the face of adversity.I am also feeling a tad of remorse being as I once had a hammer gun with lovely patterned Damascus barrels and it ended up above the fireplace of a relation I gave it too.Think I mentioned this before ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-oNnRGtVkr6E.html 😈
@Shoot-all-day
@Shoot-all-day 11 месяцев назад
Within the past two weeks I have purchased a 12ga sxs and a 410ga sxs, both 20" barrel coach guns. Could not be happier.
@guygabriel6251
@guygabriel6251 Год назад
😊❤️😊
@jacobzachary5631
@jacobzachary5631 Год назад
side by side is a walked up gun… a gun for pointed birds
@mikeproctor3664
@mikeproctor3664 Год назад
It was a lost cause from the beginning
@fallendragon69
@fallendragon69 Год назад
Click bait
@johnetheriedge8675
@johnetheriedge8675 Год назад
Enjoy hearing some cometary, but there is too much in this video. It makes me not want to watch and hear more! Thanks, John E.
@harleyquinn6774
@harleyquinn6774 Год назад
Imagine telling someone that the recoil with a sxs is downward????
@jamie3499
@jamie3499 Год назад
*Unpopular opinion:* side by sides are incredibly ugly.
@Blondejam
@Blondejam Год назад
I bought my SxS on a whim. I had shot them when I was a teenager and thinking back I don't recall seeing an O/U on my local shoot. But anyway I bought it firstly for nostalgia maybe but I saw it also as a challenge. I shoot quite well with my MK38 etc but wanted that SxS experience again, and yes I am glad I did. Apart from the fact it brought back memories from decades past it was a new experience again. It took a couple of shoots to get used to the cast, comb etc so I added and extender as the stock was too short for me as the gun is from the 60's and was made when I was three growing up in the South Wales valleys whilst it was starting it's life in Northern Spain. I can see where Ant comes from as say for his work gun and he feels comfortable with his Beretta, and so it should be. As a fun nostalgic gun I like to fire my old Spanish, but then again I am retired so having a gun for work is no issue for me. Good work Simon I always enjoy your input and your knowledge of these guns is always enjoyable and informative. Cheers guys great work as usual, looking forward to the next regardless of the subject matter.
@williamklinko4022
@williamklinko4022 Год назад
6:19. Simon: “Now, two in a row, killing both.” 😂.
@dgoodman1484
@dgoodman1484 10 месяцев назад
Once a guy matures a little he realizes shooting clays with something all flash and little soul is silly. About the same time he’s likely killed enough game that it stops being about the killing and more about the experience. Hard to beat the experience of shooting wild chuker/grouse/pheasant with a fine British double imho although I’m not sure about the flat caps and breeks but I’m only 60 so I still have time for growth 😁
@bobbyainscough6417
@bobbyainscough6417 Год назад
Ant really needs his own RU-vid channel
@dominiccampbell947
@dominiccampbell947 Год назад
I think you need to be older than 14 to have an account don't you?
@johnsoncozier2152
@johnsoncozier2152 Год назад
​@@dominiccampbell947🤣
@Chris-td4yd
@Chris-td4yd Год назад
Flipping Heck!. Ant seems a really nice chap 🙏 But I bet everything I own that if he gets a couple of pints of beer inside himself he will be fighting with his own shadow 😡.
@alexmclaren-salter9669
@alexmclaren-salter9669 Год назад
😂 well done Simon! Ant, you look like you loved it.😂
@mountaingoat2340
@mountaingoat2340 Год назад
a quill pen of sorts versus the sword... its nibble might shines through the mastery of its calligraphy. Great episode TGS!
@montanamountainmen6104
@montanamountainmen6104 Год назад
I prefer a SXS. I have 4 actually , I use them for waterfowl, upland birds and trap.
@nickhorten97
@nickhorten97 Год назад
As I have said many times, the over and under is but a passing fad.
@mchughcb
@mchughcb Год назад
The winner is the Akkar Triple Crown three barrels.
@danhill6333
@danhill6333 Год назад
Get Ant the best of both worlds, an A&S Quattrocanne 410. O/U and SxS both. Only $110K. Nothing is too good for our buddy Ant.
@AdamsClayPigeonGuide
@AdamsClayPigeonGuide Год назад
Some of the best advice from Simon there.
@ronlafitte6864
@ronlafitte6864 Год назад
I would love to spend some time with these gentlemen. I couldn't understand half of what they say and I know they couldn't understand my southern drawl. But what a fabulous time, shooting their fine doubles!!!
@stevehunter9255
@stevehunter9255 18 дней назад
Youngster has no sense of aesthetic and beauty. There is nothing like SxS with hammers. Real classic. Will take SxS over O/U all day long.
@harrymurphey2634
@harrymurphey2634 10 месяцев назад
... You know that nice S/S that you have slung over your shoulder ... well, I can not hit the broad side of a barn w/ it !!!! W/O a "mid-sight bead", I swing the barrel side to side ... w/ a I/O I am deadly ... and the s/s's I have w/ "mid-sight bead" I do not miss to much ( I shoot in the 90's/100 at the range ) It is all about the sight picture ...
@francisconway9949
@francisconway9949 10 месяцев назад
As you are on the EJ Churchill's grounds I would recommend anyone to read Robert Churchill's book "How to Shoot". Anyone that shoots an old type side y side would benefit from reading it. It is very informative and a very practical minded layout.
@SG-hd1qg
@SG-hd1qg Год назад
Ill take mu 1187 any day
@stevekunde123
@stevekunde123 Год назад
I would love a nice sxs in 28ga.
@Blackpowderdad
@Blackpowderdad Год назад
Love the video! Still on the hunt for the antique side by side of my dreams!
@stu748r
@stu748r Год назад
Come on Ant, next thing, you'll be buying a Harley at this rate....................
@funkla65
@funkla65 Год назад
"Chalk & cheese" - who says Ant hasn't the soul of a poet? ..Recently looked at a pristine 30" 12 gauge BSS for $1500, and was definitely tempted. Have heard they can be a solid workhorse for clays.
@manofkentcatapultsgunsando5069
Brilliant 💥💥
@grahamsimpkins1540
@grahamsimpkins1540 Год назад
That a great video guys !! Simon had is work cut out there!! For me a side by side is a gentleman Shotgun for game & clays from time to time I’ve been looking for a SXS for over a year now just can not fine the one.
@ericwandless1845
@ericwandless1845 Год назад
My 1870s wanless bros underlever hammer looks and feels and shoots just like that !👍
@james-wb1jr
@james-wb1jr Год назад
Fantastic video love to a hammer gun being used. It would be nice if you guys did some videos of the restoration of Simon’s hammer gun
@stuarthawkes1382
@stuarthawkes1382 Год назад
No, they certainly are not my old son!
@bestestusername
@bestestusername Год назад
Side X sides are pure, love them to bits.
@canbrit4621
@canbrit4621 Год назад
All Hail Simon! "I got him!" Lol
@timothyrogers7584
@timothyrogers7584 Год назад
Job well done!!!!
@Andy_Nick
@Andy_Nick Год назад
At 0:23 you're a person that really loves semi-automatics... guess it's time for that A5 video then! 🤣🤣
@tgsoutdoors
@tgsoutdoors Год назад
It’s coming….
@matchett100
@matchett100 Год назад
Simon Reinholds a legend.
@chadnolte9134
@chadnolte9134 Год назад
This just in Ant is going to bid on every SxS on the next Holt Auction. Lol. Good job Simon.
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