Sidney Weltmer and the Queen's Package: Citation Needed 3x04 

Oh, Tom, please.

I honestly think the censored version with the abrupt BISCUITS is funnier.

@@MatthewDoel32 Me too, doesn't stop curiosity getting the better of me!

It's probably something along the lines of "twat"

@@jeffgoldblunt I know British libel law's strict as, but surely simply calling someone a twat isn't enough to sue over.

Derek Accorah is a *beep *beep* *beep* BISCUITS!!"

Biggest laugh of the episode.

pcljet can you explain the joke? ive watched this episode 3 times and i still dont get it

Well, Derek is an actor/"spiritual medium," which are both professions which rely heavily on being able to sell things that aren't true. Given the bleeping, I'm guessing he also tends towards the litigious.

**beep*-stery Biscuits* (oh yeah) And yeah, he got a bit sue-y when he was revealed to be absolutely the charlatan that everyone suspected he was, by dint of secretly visiting the area of the next target property and looking up all the behind the scenes details on people who died there and might therefore be expected to reappear as ghosts... taking notes on things he could "channel" from the spirits that he _couldn't possibly_ have known otherwise, as proof that his psychic powers were real. Nice attempt, really, but took it too far, and didn't deal with the unmasking too well. Dunno how the court case came out but I can't imagine it went in his favour, which is why he doesn't appear on our screens any more other than in repeats way off in the high numbered satellite and cable channels, his role having been taken over by Yvette Fielding whose job is basically "professional scaredycat". None of the whole mock-spiritual-medium guff that Derek indulged in... just jumping in fright at every little noise or tiny glint of light in a darkened room.

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They always say you should drink equally amounts of water and citation needed

Spit take!

Jackie Scholl Well, a B-2 is hard to fly without power.

Surely you enjoyed the $100 hamburger episode then? Didnt realise fellow aviation nuts watched this? Do you fly yourself?

Jackie Scholl a motor glider is able to glide efficiently. Standard airplanes do not glide as efficiently. The Grob 109 "Vigilant" motor glider is able to utilise themals and updraft to glide like a standard glider. Whereas the Grob 115 "Tutor" or other airplanes cannot.

THANK YOU!

Thank you Aviation Captain, you can fly away now

Sam Sayah That's one of the most fitting nicknames I've ever heard

Sam Sayah Oh my God. Ok, so after some googling it turns out he ran for parliament in 2010?! Apparently 84 people voted for him, including Noel Gallagher, not too bad for such a strong conservative seat.

Check out the Park Bench series, he goes into his time as Mad Cap'n Tom on the internet, at university, and in London. All three are fascinating stories, especially the latter two of course

Meanwhile, at my university I don’t even know the names of my current teachers.

I have been avoiding watching those old videos like hell. I don't want to know.

Piper Isle PERFECT

Purrfect (sorry I had to)

Joshua Green Do you do the 'oh yeah' bit at the end?

@@TheChipmunk2008 i do!

How do you remember all the words?

Bruh, I flatout sing it. XD

Sadly, I think they are planning to stop making Citation Needed after the next season. They're doing other things, though!

@@timothymclean Replying to a 3 year old comment

They’ve stopped it I think

They’ve stopped it

i really like this comment

Maybe the law was different back then, who knows

Thing is, Weltmer had an actual clinic, with people coming in for treatments and staff sometimes making house calls. The main part of the business was in-person, with people coming in and receiving an actual (if scientifically and medically unsound except as a placebo) service; mail was strictly a vector for communication & transactions. So, there probably wasn't enough for it to qualify as mail fraud outright. If he'd been selling induction scripts through the mail, on the other hand....

They’re not in the US, are they?

@@oxybrightdark8765 "Ah, now that's a statement of fact!"

@@NoLongerBreathedIn no it’s not, it’s a question.

@@oxybrightdark8765 "Those are his middle names." "Ah, now that's a statement of fact!"

they're british, not American, UK libel law is amonst the strictest in the world & they follow that, as they live, work & film(ed) in the UK that would be deemed as enough to be taken against them, in court, over here (UK) as Tom points out

.. i didnt notice, but thats what happens when the sound engineer remembers to do his job i sujppose :o

I always thought when he says "I forgot to record" he was joking I just realized that he turns on the recorder for the actual mics and we switch from gopro mics to the good mics!

whatever "laxative laws" means, I don't think I want to chance that

@@phygs I mean, some people likely consider the laws to be crappy, so it might fit, anyway.

Bishop is not based around the chess piece.

+Erik Akerberg it's the fact that he said they move diagonally.

If only my icon were a 'D', we might have a crude joke to be made. You tried, Lads, and that's all we could ask for. Perhaps one day if sir D wishes to step up to the plate, I will gladly delete this post, that the thread's full potential be reached.

@@aidanclark196 wrong video, wasn't that in the Thomas Midgley video?

@@brandonmartin-moore5302 9:20

"You are feeling sleepy. You might not know it, you might not believe it, but it's true, and here's why..."

Time to charge the fact batteries!

Most devices charge on 5V USB standard

Sadly, I actually worked this out, too. If you dispense with the accessories, you can put the cat on a larger glider and power a power-assist system for the control surfaces and some electronic instruments with it.

Hold up--is that where the word "mesmerizing" comes from?

@@dbseamz Yes! He believed you could hypnotize others using these magnetic fluids, this belief is known as mesmerism, and mesmerizing is derived from that term.

It’s funnier with the censored bit.

well we can now

you can't libel the dead. now's the time

Well!

Disproved him "as" a vegetable? :)

Haha, how?!

Okay, I know I'm replying to a two-year-old comment, but leaving _that_ anecdote unfinished is criminal.

@@HaloInverse I know, right? THE PUBLIC DEMANDS ANSWERS!

what did you do, batter him with a marrow going 'where are the spirits now derek?

Gregor Masson how about both?

Gregor Masson considering how lazy cats are, it´s probably the latter.

I was thinking cats trapped in a perpetual falling state, and so endlessly spinning as they seek a feet-first position - endless energy!

+Gregor Masson no it was the hamster in a wheel, toxicized by petrol, runing away from a cat which is also in a wheel, but cat wheel had gears cranked to it since it's a bigger animal and it will be more efficient to power glider via catwheel. otherwise you're stuck with hamster-powered glider

And I was wondering how one manages to let cats do anything other than what *they* want.

Wow! I didn't catch on to that!

I thought QI was a longer version of this :D

Had the identical thought.

The fact that there's something less focused than this says way too much

its pretty much if you took the the internet and four blokes from Yorkshire living in london, and shoved them in the room.

Swaffle wait, Tom isn’t from Yorkshire!

I don't think you're being fair to Sidney Weltmer.

Timothy McLean Considering I thought "that's Scientology, innit?", I don't think it's that unfair.

Or, indeed, CBT.

He's died now... not libel anymore

The what?

A dodo wearing a kimono from Quasimodo and Frodo

Close. A dodo clone in a kimono... Well done though.

+iain hewitt ahh I missed the word recreation.

You did well. I'm currently thinking of how to phrase another... Something along the lines of, "Mr Reynolds won the bronze in an open necked garment but was very short when asked about it..." It needs something else, I feel, and I'm not sure bronze fits...

I assume the open necked garment fits though?

+Zalied That is an awesome idea!

And sponsors.

I'm replying unbelievably late, but there actually is a spreadsheet somewhere with the prizes, and all the points & Biscuits everyone has scored.

yep if you google the show and prizes it comes up

Ah, but does it involve cats?

Plane.

Its funnier this way

William Brayton Sorry, but this is false. The US does give extra protections to people speaking about public figures, so it is far harder for a politician or a celebrity to successfully bring a defamation case than for a normal citizen, but _there aren't a separate names for it_, just different legal standards. Libel still refers to written defamation, and slander still refers to spoken defamation.

That's what I was saying.

William Brayton No, it isn't. You either didn't read my comment, or you are very confused about what you wrote, or both. You wrote: "Libel is against Public figures and has an extremely high bar of proof, requiring the person stating the libel as a means to create malicious damage. Slander is protection for the common citizen and the evidence is much lower." This is absolutely false, in that the definitions of "Libel" and "Slander" have *nothing* to do with the legal standards that a public figure has to meet in order to bring a successful defamation lawsuit. In the United States, "Libel" simply means "written defamation", just like in the rest of the world. In the United States, "Slander" simply means "spoken defamation", just like the rest of the world. Clear?

Or you don't know American law because Libel and Slander are sometimes codified into the same things by state laws.

William Brayton Cite the law, then. Because I've never heard of it being defined in the way you mention in your OP.

*scam artist

Einar Strandberg, you say that, but are you sure? Corporate influence being what it is are you sure we're not just all corporations just recognized under the law as people?

@@smwillia yes

I'm going to guess they mean "This guy would sue us".

UK libel law is more strict than in the US, in that opinion also can get you into trouble. Since Gary had insulted him by effectively calling him a fraud (to put it lightly) like all other psychic mediums, Tom didn't want to get sued given the guy is known for suing fellow Brits who try to badmouth him.

UK is a socialist regime

@@theswaff699 Letting private people "censor" those who badmouth them is completely unrelated to socialism.

Whoops! Just fixed that link in the description.

***** The annotation at the end is still wrong

***** The link at the end of this video replays this video too :)

+Tom Scott The link at the end of the video is still wrong :(

+Tom Scott You missed the annotation for the next video.