@@durrangodsgrief6503actually it’s the opposite. Since the real Seigfreid doesn’t have Galvinism, his mana regen is notoriously poor, meaning he wouldn’t even be able to keep up with Mordred. Both Seig and Seigfreid have the Armor of Fafnir already equipped. Now if this was Sigurd that’s a very different story. Mordred would definitely get cooked.
@@durrangodsgrief6503 To add to the comment above, Siegfrieds weakness is a leaf-shaped spot on his back. Once Siegfried used his NP, Mordred and Sisigo could easily plan to get behind him. Next, Mordred would agree to use some underhanded tactics when necessary.
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@@jimmy89758 Infact Siegfried is the weakest in his servant form.Alive Siegfried had a much higher mana rank and a Dragon core to boot.Meaning that he could fight artoria on par.
More like: The edgy-tomboy-waifu we wanted as a protagonist since she is an edgy-tomboy-waifu who is easy to understand VS The one who has a real reason to be a protagonist but too many people don't bother trying to understand him since he is not an edgy-tomboy-waifu and his feelings aren't spoonfed... I love Mordred but she is unfit to be Apocrypha protagonist for thematic reasons
@wake6000 Many fans I have seen wanted either Mordred or both of them as protagonists. Either way they couldn't work as Apocrypha's main characters simply because they don't fit its theme, but I don't see anything wrong with how they and their stories were used, they found their answers and left in a very satisfying way, other complaints are just fans fetishizing Mordred or never looking beyond the tip of their nose.
Whyy do I have a fantasy that arturia and gilgamesh and a child and this is her because she acts justtt like gilgamesh like "imitation " and "mongrels" but fights like arturia obviously. But imma keep this fantasy lol
Siegfried gets hard nerfed in Holy Grail Wars cause they lower his Dragon Core (Heart) to its lowest output. His sword techniques are one step below that of Karna's who is considered eqivalent of that to the Gods but have long trancended Humanity. His body would show traits of an incarnated Dragon Kin like Wings, Horns and a Tail, and all of these are boost to his Dragon Cores effectiveness. When having the full access to his Dragon Core his usage of Balmung was EX ranked and could reach the Stratosphere, litterally. The Holy Grail System Nerfs him insanely similarly to how Artoria does not get Avalon her True Noble Phantasm on summoning. Sieg had access to the full power and knowledge of Siegfried and used his techniques and skills properly. Except he hadn't steeled himself to Kill a target and therefore held back unconsciously, Mordred states give him another chance to ready himself and he would be at her level and then exceed her. But even that status is still short of the Living Hero Siegfried.
God, if that was the real Siegfried, Mordred wouldn't have lasted long. Sieg (Siegfried) is always operating at Siegfried's effective 50% in the apocrypha LN.
I genuinely feel apocrypha would've been much more liked if sieg wasn't the mc he was just kinda bland and the really made it seem like mordred and her master were gonna be the main duo
You know right before this she fought Frankenstein and survived the one hundred percent noble phantasm. And then had to deal with a saber phantasm. That's two phantasm by the 2 strongest classes also sieg was fortified by the command spell as well.
Took on and defeated Frankenstein, Astolfo, Sieg clone, had even fought and nearly defeated Assassin, and Archer. later fights Spartacus, and even kills Semiramis in her hanging gardens Noble Phantasm which was supposed to make her invincible. She isn't weak.
@@rafaelmontejocortes4620 huh? Dead count shapeshiter doesn't boost, it only transforms him to siegfried for 3 minutes. And also by no means mordred is weak she's really just a bad match up to siegfried who slays dragons and has better np. And also no, she wasn't tired, servants don't need rest, sleep or food, all they need is magical energy and they can run for days on end if they want, take gawain for example in fate extra, dude spend lots of years with only sleep, a view of flowers and a good sip of fine tea every now and then. the only reason artoria does so is because shirou is horrible as a master henc she needs to replenish her mana on her own. Also to survive Frans noble phantasm, sisigo had to use a command spell to boost her unless she would have been vaporized by blasted tree(read the manga). And sorry to say, but if mordred can't even beat a "Fake" siegfried even with a proper supply of magical energy, a continuous use of her mana burst and another boost command and unleashing the sword the killed the king of knights. Yep seem pretty desapointing huh? And that's saying something.
@@vartner8051 According to the LN, Mordred does get weakened after taking Fran's NP. And Kairi's boost only let her fight at her best condition, not strengthen her in any ways. And Sieg isn't weaker than Siegfried, in this video he's just still doesn't used to using Siegfried's power, in his 3rd transformation he's literally stronger than servant Siegfried (not living Siegfried), cuz Sieg is a walking mana sources so he can just spamming Balmung while Siegfried can't do anything like that.