SIG P227 vs. H&K HK45 - Slugfest! 

1050 rounds through my 227 and not one hang-up/malfunction. Love the HK tho. Can't go wrong with either! Great review

the best 2 .45s on the market for the non 1911 crowd. Idc which one you choose you can't argue against the other. if the sig feels right then get it. same for the hk. but if you can get both. I'm not one of those hk vs sig guys. they're both to be respected. they make the world's best handguns and serve and protect daily. both fight for our freedom and are made the the world class standards the price justifys. I own both

Carried the Sig P226 in both 9 and 40 during my 20+ years snd always loved it. Been wanting to pick up the 227 for a while now.

Excellent Review.. I have a Sig. 229. A Few H&K's. No Malfunctions, I'm happy with either one. The H&K's seem to fit my hand better than the Sig. My VP9 came with Night Sights. I prefer the H&K phosphorus sights. My Sig's all came with Night Sights.

Very thorough video! FYI: the HK's trigger hiccup at 20:00 is the half-cocked position. The only time the hammer is dropped beyond that point is when the trigger is pulled onto a dead round / empty chamber. If you were to pull the trigger again to double-strike a primer, you would experience that hiccup. Otherwise, using the decocker, the hammer will sit at the half-cocked position. There will be more take-up before you get to resistance in the trigger, but once you start developing resistance, it's relatively smooth until the break.

I have both. For some reason, that is not even clear to me, I tend to shoot the Sig more often. But, after going back through these older videos, I will be taking the HK45 out to the range next week-end. I absolutely love the P227, I would never get rid of it unless Sig made a Legion version, then I'd trade up.

I don't know you don't have more subscribers. Your vids are very informative and of high quality. Thanks for the upload, this really helped me on deciding my next .45!

Great video Justin!! I love my P227 SAS Gen 2! - I need to pick up some 14 round extended factory magazines for it because they are availible now.. - Young Beretta

The H&K has steel sights, not polymer.

Got my hk 45 last week it came with a green front sight and blacked out rear sight it's a real shooter It will be my edc for sure

Both are Fantastic but the H&K45 ergos are what make me favor it. Great review!

I skipped through a lot of this but did he go over the rifling on these two, seems like that is a major difference worth noting... Standard vs. Polygonal.

Thanks for making this video, very well produced! As a left-handed shooter (and Sig owner) the controls are not a problem to operate-- the decocker and mag release button can be activated with my left index finger and the slide lock can be manipulated (e.g., for malfunction clearances) with my support hand. So any lefties in the crowd, don't be deterred from the Sig!

I love my H&K45 ! In a world of compromise others DON'T !

Not worried about if my HK45's sights may not be lit up fully at night because I dont plan on blindly shooting in pitch darkness. Not to mention if someone breaks into my home, I could easily take the target down even if the gun had no sights at all.

Just love the hk45 just a piece of art work! I get goosebumps Everytime I open my case! If I had the sig I would feel equally the same.. 2 great reliable company's that I trust my life with

This awesome video just made the decision VERY easy to decide.......BOTH!!!!!!

95% sure the hk45 will do lem/sa as well..also, for me, the p30 style grips o n the p30 and hk45 are the best in the west

there is no "better". each are great guns. which do you shoot better, that's what matters. I like both brands, both can take a beating.

Those glow in the dark sights are pretty damn nice. I sleep in a room with no windows and only the led light from the fire alarm glows in this room. Even so those glow in the dark sights pick up that tiny amount of light and do glow a bit all throughout the night till morning when the room is still all blacked out. Pretty neat imo

The sights you're describing on the H&K is phosphorus - same stuff used on analog watch faces.

I'm a happy SIG (West German made P226) owner since 1994 and I remember Hammer Time!

YOUR BEST VIDEO JUSTIN !!!!! I LOVED EVERY SINGLE SEC OF IT ! SO GOOD IM GOING TO PUT IT IN MY FB , SHARE IT WITH MY FRIENDS AND WATCH IT OVER AND OVER AGAIN ! NO KIDDING ! CONGRATULATIONS !!!!!!!!

P227 has a design flaw. It is shared with other guns out of the p series, but the p227 was most common to have this pin break. I have seen the the same thing happen in a p226. If this pin breaks the weapon will lock up, most of the time with a round in the chamber, but you can't move the slide. I had a p227 and a few others and got rid of all but my p220. Sig knows how to fix it, but refused to do so till it breaks. Not the confidence I want in a duty weapon.

Hk wins out in over the top torture tests that I’ve seen

good video, I own both. I installed the SRT in my 227 and now I like it much better than my HK

Maybe its just me, but it seems that the .45 is becoming popular again.

HK 45T LEM trigger. The best!

Looks like HK was less accurate for ya, which is something I've seen before, but for me it's the reverse. My target with my P30SK in 9mm looks more like the SIG at 25 yards v my full sized SIG p226 in .40 @ the same distance! Sig's triggers i think help but the HK triggers aren't as bad as the complaints I've heard. I think the LEM shoots more accurately in V1 and even my V2 once you are used to it, the follow up shoots are superb.

The sig is better looking, more comfortable for me, and has much more standard issue features. Hard to argue against its significant edge, but it's not like theres all that much wrong with the hk either.

Great stuff and great series! Two fine beauties! I don't have much experience with the HK, but really enjoy the Sig.

This is a great review of two outstanding 45s. I enjoyed all of the footage. I'm glad you didn't suffer a nose bleed when showing the high bore axis.

Wound up going to try the HK45 and SIG P227 and to my surprise I walked out with a SIG 1911 Scorpion. Figuring I already owned enough P2-series (For now) and three HKs, the 1911 just spoke to me, and I traded my P2000 as a carry piece to my wife (which she loves thank goodness, and she deserves the best) my pops got my P30 and the P220 and USP are nightstand for now. For backup I'm definitely going for an HK45c unless I find a smaller 1911 that just speaks to me, or decide to go for a Chiappa White Rhino or smaller revolver. (the White Rhino and Hk45c are vastly different, similar price and quality and both offer a lot as a backup/seconadry)

HK has a rail that is ready to mount an accessory? Do they know that ? Mine required machining. $1000 later it was ready to mount an optic

My rear hk sight is serated and blacked out and I have a green dot photo luminescent sight on the front.

I own a P220, HK P30sk, HK P2000 (in .40) a USP in .40 (best .40 I've ever shot between G23 and 22, Springfield XDm .40 and Smith and Wesson M&P .40, generally prefer .45 or 9mm), the P220 Carry was by far my favorite all-metal DA/SA I've owned right tied with my beloved Beretta M9, but far more ergonomic and my preferred round, easier to carry too. The USP .40 had the best recoil of the bunch, I'm a believer in the HK recoil reduction system, s othat said. Knowing that the HK45 c feels very much like my P2000, and really liking how HK's DA/SA works in LIVE FIRE (in dry fire it doesn't feel nearly as impressive)....If I had the option of spending $1000-1200 on either a SIG P227 or HK45c, I could get both for around $700 or under with some smart shopping, maybe $800 for the 45c...At that point I'd either have the SIG SRT trigger installed or if I got the HK45c I'd get the Lazy Wolf mod, either their LEM mod or their version of a short reset function on HK, lightening the DA to 8-9lb. So when all is said and done, the SIG P227 feels better, and shoots just as well, but the HK45c, and this is pretty common among my mates, feels like it's the better duty pistol, in and out of the military, and for private securty/LEO. Many of my friends really take to the LEM trigger after trying it out. And the great thing is if you get it in .40 (which likely means getting it cheaper by $100-150), it shoots nearly as good as the 9mm, and while stopping power is nearly the same if we're talking +P and ammo, I think the .40 polycase +P and +P+ ammo is the superior round. Polycase recoils a bit less, too. SIG is fantastic, and great for most gun owners, but if you plan on really heavily using your firearm, and you can do a coin flip on SIG or HK? I'd get the HK, superior engineering, more durable, slightly lighter. Right now I'm sticking with my SIG 1911 but the HK45c is definitely in my future.

Hk design is nice and has a good name eversince. Sig design is simple and very fuctional and can compete with the best guns. I’d go for HK since I don’t have one yet.

Great video!!!! Pls do also the compact version of each.

Good video. I own a Sig P239 9mm and just bought a two tone H&K USP Compact 9mm. Question do you consider upgrading your Sig to a SRT trigger and H & K to the LEM. THANK YOU

Great video, thanks for taking the time to do this right and enjoy the humor keeping it lite and not getting to religious about band loyalty.

Nice review, thumbs up. As a lefty, I give the H&K points for the ambi stuff, but it loses big time for plastic lower and the gasket thingy on the barrel. Trigger guard and batman grips look goofy too.

Just got my hk45 for $749.99 in the time of covid and put almost 300 rds through it the first time out, multiple brands of 45 ball and my 45 carry ammo!!! All was flawless and capable of much more accuracy than I am!!! Even though it has a fairly high bore axis, I am finding the recoil reduction system makes a huge difference on taming the flip!!! My kh45 even with hot ammo like my carry ammo at 950fps plus with a 230gr jhp doesn't hardly move!!!

I own a hk45 and love it! Looking into the 227 :)

Fnx45 is my top choice for a non 1911 45, great gun for the money

It's a P-227 for me- Thanks for the Video

Both of those pistols are more accurate than almost any shooters ability!!! In a ransom rest they'd both have insane 25 yard groups

Fnx45 vs hk45 would have been better in my opinion. Great channel, justin!

Is the felt recoil on the HK45 less in your opinion? I never got to try them side by side, I'd say the HK45 felt less than my P220 Carry but considering the HK45 is longer, has HK's epic recoil reduction system and the weight is nearly the same when loaded....I am just curious if the P227 feels about the same . On video it looks like it had a tad more muzzle flip or at a more upward angle, and looked like it was recoiling a bit more but that's harder to tell.

Really well done Sir. Thank you for your time and efforts.

As a left handed shooter i will give my 2 cents. The decocker on the sig is in a good position to use your trigger finger to decock. I prefer righty mag release for the same reason. Slide stop release i just slingshot it. The hk i can use my trigger finger too to decock and actuate the safety but i prefer to use just as a decocker or replace with full ambi safety. The safety on the hk sits too high to get a comfortable thumbs over grip though. Not to mention the weird feel of the wide area it sits. The hk has super tight tolerances. I have never seen a barrel to slide fit this tight. Pistol field stripped with barrel in slide I can't move the barrel at all in any direction front or hood. Sig has better machining. My hk has minor machine marks inside the slide. The single action trigger on the hk is fantastic, mine is the hk45c if it makes a difference. The hammer looks like a drunken monkey molded this thing, yes its mim as are many of the small parts. Grip is pretty thin but not as ergonomic as the hk45 or the sig.

When I went shopping for a new .45, I looked at the Sig 227. I didn't like the grip. Wasn't ergonomic at all for my hand. The HK45 was just right. Price was only about $100 difference.

H&K Yesterday, Today and Tomorrow will be the Father of all guns, the rest is just music. Good video by the way ty.

Great video! Couple of points... my sample of the HK luminescent (glow) sights, as well as the TruDot tritiums that are HK OEM are both steel. Did you verify that your set is polymer with a magnet? That would indicate a manufacturing change somewhere along the line and may be worth noting. Also, the "false positive / hickup" felt mid stroke of the double action pull on the HK is the hammer "half-cock" position. This is the position of which the hammer falls when using the decocker. Therefore, this position is the starting point of the double action pull if loaded with normal protocol by dropping the slide and then the hammer with the decocker. In contrast, the video illustrates the double action pull by pulling the trigger, letting the hammer fall fully forward and then pulling the trigger again without resetting the hammer to its "normal" double action starting point. (I apologize if I misunderstood what you were describing.) The SIG looks awesome and I think I "need" to add one to the herd:) Thanks for the comparison!

The 2 most ergonomic 45 acp on the marketing, cant go wrong with either.

Thank you for this excellent review, I watched the whole thing and enjoyed all of it. :) Subscribing!

Great comparison video , thanks for sharing.

Nice job, thanks for the hard work.

Absolutely best review I have ever watched.

Wish sig would make a p227 legion! But I do love my hk45 and usp .45!

I have the p227 and couldn't imagine having the HK45 in place of it, ggg.

This was an awesome review! Thank you for sharing.

Great video, loved the attention to detail.

The HK hands down I have owned this gun for 10 years bought it when it first came out nothing was even close to it at the time, shoots and points well not knocking the sig they both go bang bang but for looks and feels and comfortable in my hand..looking at the vp9 which is also made by HK

When in a doubt, buy both.

dont get why so few views on your videos...I really like your work and especially the slugfests.greetings from greece

Should have shown the reset of the triggers like they do in every other review!

Takina uses either a Sig 226 or a 227 in Lycoris Recoil. At first I thought it was a 226 but she is seen testing some of Chisato's non-lethal bullets, and I'm pretty sure Chisato uses a 45. 🤔

EXCELLENT review sir! You have a new subscriber.

I own both the P227 Tactical Ops Elite & HK45 Tactical Awesome guns!

Excellent review. Tnx.

awesome review! Thanks. Just right.......I wanna SIG Sauer even more now.

Some of the comparisons are silly. The sights on that HK are standard sights! Tritium sights are optional, and they have a ledge for 1 hand slide manipulation. The HK45 also offers multiple variants, V1,V3, V7, LEM .. If $1,000 is to much for a polymer pistol, then it's a shame I sell so many $65,000 F-150's there made mostly of plastic. Even race cars, use polymer inserts for engine mounts. Both are proven platforms! The HK is a 21st century firearm. The SiG is the same design for years now since the 1970's. Also, even though the frame is metal, it's aluminum, so once that black coating comes off good luck. Plus Aluminum is not the tough, hell carbon fiber is tough. HK 45 anyway!

You're wrong about one thing... that magazine release button is steel, not aluminum. Check it with a magnet.

What about a three-way with the FNX? Which would come out on top of those three?

I have both of these and I really love them both. Awesome 45's!! The biggest advantage the P227 has is that it will fit in all of my holsters which I had for my P226 TacOps. For whatever reason I do shot the HK45 a little more accurately though. Over 2k rounds thru the HK45T with zero issues at all. About 200 thru the P227 but those have been issue free too. Buy both of them, you will like.

Great review, head to toe. Thanks.

Why would I be "sneaking up behind someone" and need to drop the hammer?

Good review ,so your HK45 came with polymer sights ? Mine came with metal sights but I did notice that mine is older BC yours is BE .

Great video! Nicely done sir

Cool 'tash and great videography!

Safety lever! Don't need no stinking safety lever!

Lol... there isn't nothing polymer about those steel sights on the HK45. Still a good review of both guns.

wonder why he didn’t show the initial sig disassembly

Hahaha love the bore axis joke.

I owned a HK 45 C , the slide release was ridiculous loose , I call HK and nobody was able to explained why it was loose , after 1500 round got worse , after 3000 round I notice some wear on the polymer around the rail inserts , the trigger was horrible , nothing compare to Sig SRT , is a overpriced gun that do not offer more than any other polymer gun like ,Glock , XD < XDM , or MP pistols for much less money , FNX 45 is far superior gun than this , the Sig 227 is basically a Sig 226 in 45 ,227 have the option to get 14 rounds of 45 , come with nigth sights , SRT from factory and outstanding Sig Costumer Service , the HK did not come with night sight just luminova , also just come with two magazines of 10 rounds , and they are extremely expensive and there is not any other option of after market hi capacity magazines , this gun just got its fame for Larry Vickers and all the Seals deal , that by the way they still carry the Sig 226 , thank you for the video Sir.

Now my rear sight on my hk45 is steel and much more squared up and can be used for one handed racking by snagging on the belt or whatever!!!

Nothing beats the HK

If I had to sneak up on someone I sure as shit wouldn't be dropping the hammer if I had the advantage.

Sig

Own both shoot both there really is no comparison. The HK is an awesome looking pistol and has great ergos, thats were it ends. None of the research and development went into the trigger at all. Double action is horrible and stacks like crazy. Single is better but not by much. The trigger reset is ok but it has a fake reset that you have to train around. The Sig is in a catagory all to its own. Double action is smooth and single has some take up and then a crisp break. If you get the SRT its even better. Both are reliable both have great fit and finish but honestly with regards to the HK I've seen better triggers in guns half its cost.

I could happily carry either. I would pick HK over sig but id agonize over it lol. They are both so great...sig has better feel, srt trigger makes it damn near match worthy...that said check out USPs with a lem/sa mod. First pull is lem at same pull weight with da pull length and my god...search Sean Burrows here on RU-vid for more info on that, lazywolf will do that mod i believe

I've been watching a couple of these slug fest videos and I have to ask. Which is the softest or flattest shooting .45 you have shown in these videos?

What's the exact model of the Sig at :30 second mark? Is it also a 227?

Discuss magazine costs also.

can you do follow up video on how the key lock on HK45 would work? i believed that HK45 has key together with it on the package thanks

Great review/comparison. With you're voice, it is like a Bob Ross gun show! No offense, keep it up.

Both made in the US? I thought Sig was Austrian and HK was German. Am I wrong about this? Also, higher bore axis is a good thing??? You obviously haven't shot the CZ 97 or a Tangfolio or the Sarsilmaz K2 45 against these pistols.

Not a really good comparison due to the fact that you can get the HK45 with night sights and in my opinion the HK45 is more accurate than the 227 in my hand the sig grip doesn’t fit me well at all while the HK is like a glove.

good video, nice GSD :-)

My girl prefers girth over length, therefore my P227 will get it done at the end of the day.