Everything he says here is spot on. I have a lot of experience with the 320's in general. Started with a P320 compact in 9mm, then purchased a 320 SC 9mm conversion kit, followed by the X-compact, and x-carry grip modules, and the flat trigger upgrade. For those who don't know, the standard SC slide and barrel fits the Xcompact grip module, and the standard compact slide and barrel fits the X-carry grip module. Basically this allows me to convert between the P320C, SC, Xcompact, and Xcarry, with just one fire control unit. The XFive Legion was a must have. The fit and finish, the overall feel when shooting, the trigger, everything about this firearm is just amazingly perfect. 320's are outstanding in general, but the Legion is just unreal.
I just got one of these. Love the trigger so I bought a carry slide and a Wilson Combat grip module I’ll put the x5 fcu into for edc. Then I’ll have the x5 for range day
I looked at this gun for about two years. Finally decided to purchase it... couldn't find a single one near me nor around the country. A solid year and a half went by and my father wanted to get a .22 long rifle to get rid of a fox that had been a serious issue for our pug. We walked in and I was simple taking a stroll around the shop (Jays) and sure enough, there it was, a P320 X5 Legion in the case. Some guy custom ordered it online and when it came in, his wife ended up freaking out and told him not to follow through with the purchase. Needless to say, I bought it on the spot. Cannot believe it haha. I LOVE this gun so much and would highly recommend it.
It comes with the 17 round magazine because this gun was made for match shooting. The 21 round mag with not fit in the box required for some matches. Has nothing to do with pricing.
I love my X5...one of the easiest gun to shoot that I’ve ever fired. It’s a hungry gun...expensive rounds, mid range or the cheapest bargain bin trash you can find. This monster fires it all without complaint. I’ve put over a 1000 rounds through mine not a single issue ever. As far as I can tell the only problem with this gun is having to stop shooting long enough to reload the 3 mags.
This frame is awesome. I like what sig is doing with their gun. Amazing how a military contract can help your company. I've got a p365 p365xl p320 compact. I like what Sigs doing. Never been a sig fan. I'd like to see this in 10mm
Sig stopped the 21 round mags because they weren’t legal in any division except open without modification. Realistically nobody is going to use the magwell since it’s not a 40 except 3 gunners
Anytime Kevin! Yeah, the 365 is tiny by comparison, lol. Had to do it. Yes, trigger time is a must on this. Keep me posted! Thank you and cheers brother!
Great gun Ive always been a red fiber guy changed mine out before I ever shot it! Great vids bro! Also I’m loving the 14 lb spring with my 124 grain hand loads!
I have waiting period in my state. But yes, I was looking at many other things and guy at gun shop was like "hey...I got something you should put your hands on". Upon hearing such a thing, I was quite concerned. I was very relieved when he handed me a gun. And oh boy...what a gun it is. Being ex army and having owned many handguns in my time....I have never felt anything like it. Weight and balance are phenomenal in my opinion. First gun that I felt like it was made for me.
I literally just did the same thing today. Walked in to get myself a graduation gift and the guy said I think I have something you might like. Guess he was right.
I just came back from the range and shot mine for the 1st time. I had no issues with mine at all. It has the best out of the box trigger I have ever owned. Just for your info. Sig is already selling the the new tungsten infused frame only for $299.00. I also put my long slide 40 S&W on it and it worked fine.
I was looking for my first handgun. I had a lot of experience with different airsoft guns, but absolutely no experience with real firearms. So I went to a shooting range and tried plenty of different handguns. And man, this Sig is the smoothest thing I’ve ever experienced. I’d say it’s closer to airsoft replicas at this point - that’s how smooth it is. I bought it and have no regrets. It’s a wonderful gun, and I can recommend it as a starter.
Same reason I’m getting it. I’ve used hi cappa’s a lot in airsoft so this especially from using one feels a lot like what I’m used to carrying around the field all day.
I own a X5 Legion. I recently purchased a CZ Shadow 2. Both guns are very fun to shoot. The Legion has a slightly wider grip (1.238 in) and is slightly lighter (43.5 oz) than th eCZ (1.135 in grip width; 46.5 oz). The Sig comes OR out of the box, so I immediately installed a Romeo 1. The CZ OR was unavailable so I purchased the regular non-OR gun. The CZ has a very soft trigger that needs some practice to get used to. Couldnt say which is the better gun at my level. Love them both.
When I got my X5 few weeks later the Legion version came out and I was oh well my luck. There's light at the end of the tunnel. Sig sent an email advertising the TXG tungsten infused grip frame for sale.(Legion frame) Will be ordering mine today. Great review as always and I agree the Shadow 2 is hard to beat.
Great to hear about the grips sold by themselves. I think a lot of X5 owners will be checking them out! Hopefully they’ll do that with the X Compact as well. I’d be all over it. Thank you and cheers Keanon!
I maintain that you do the absolute best handgun reviews on RU-vid!! I agree with you about the longer magazines. In fact, it looks like the 17 round magazines are a little short. That is, they appear to be slightly recessed when fully seated. This looks like a USPSA production winner for sure! I hope you have a great weekend brother!
Thank you very much Texican! Truly means a lot brother. Yes, the 17 rounders sit just inside the magwell. Kind of odd that they did that. Oh well, they still work, lol. Have a great weekend as well! Cheers!
Great review my man! This is going in my collection for sure. They needed to include the 21 round mags for sure. I know I'd be buying more of them anyway. I can't wait to feel the heft of this gem. This gun, the X-Compact, and the P365 would complete the trifecta! Sig is finally stepping up their game again. And as always looking forward to your vids! Take care!!
Thanks Bloody! Yes, you definitely need this one. I think the weight will take you by surprise. Heavy, but well balanced. Lol, I agree on the trifecta. Cheers as always brother!
You're the man KS! I've been interested to see a review on this gun. You are the first channel I know of to get one. Very cool gun! I kinda want one now
Sold nearly all my glocks to switch to Sig for carry and competition. Now I am transitioning from the xfive legion to a STI Staccato XL for USPSA. My ONLY complaint on this xfive legion is the trigger reset. I find myself screwing up when in a hurry at competitions and not resetting it all the way so it holds me back a second to reset properly. If it had a shorter reset it would be the best gun hands down.
The Sig Sauer P320 X Five is better for duty / carry purposes, aside from the fact that it comes with four 21-round magazines. The Legion is made for target match competition / home defense. I am very happy with my X Five
@@rasmuspedersen3563 There was a P320 X Five model, replaced by the X Five Legion. The difference is the frame. The former is polymer, and the latter the frame is tungsten infused.
I bought the original X5 about a year ago and after I fell in love with it just from picking it up! I may by the new grip module. It'll save me from having to buy the new gun but still give me the upgrades in terms of weight. Great review.
Your great review just helped my decision. Just purchased this pistol. I am with you as far as the 115 grain loads. I shoot that at the range and don’t see a need for the 14lb spring until I compete. Thanks!
Haha!! That's awesome James! They really are great guns indeed. I was oogling over the coyote version yesterday. Thankfully, I restrained. Thank you and cheers!
I have never been interested in a Sig before and have only handled a couple.....but had someone hand me one last week and now I can't stop thinking about it LOL
Hello KS....thanks for all the time you put into your videos. The XFive Legion you sent Honest Outlaw for review had a big stick mag. Would you mind sharing where you can get the extended base plates?
Took the plunge and went to the dark side and picked it up. LOVE my Glocks and Hk’s!!! This is my first striker fired Sig. Beautiful pistol and cannot wait to see how it compares to my VP9 Long Slide.
Please hurry up and do the Sig vs CZ Shadow 2 comparison! Honestly my very 1st thought when I heard about this gun, is "how does it compare to the Shadow "? Thanks for the review, looks like an excellent pistol. Cant wait for the If I Could Only Have 1 video 😉
Great job on the review KS . I have done a few videos on this gun coming out . I have the $$$ . Just waiting to see if it becomes Massachusetts Compliant . The original X5 is . And they are still for sale at my gun store $789 . But I want this one . Love your new intro 💥💥💥 .
shot one and almost wet my pants. what a piece of work. i have a 226 and i ordered a flat trigger from armory craft because of trigger on 320 impressed me so much.
I love this gun more than my Walther Q5 match SF Pro. I ran 115 grain Fiocchi and didn't have any issues with the gun cycling., I know that ammo is hot but I ran PMC and Geco as well with no issues. I typically let them sit with the slide lock open for a few days before I go shooting. This gives the spring the ability to allow more movement. Great gun though.
I have shot 115g and 124g NATO with the same coil (purple) and have not experienced any problems (i.e. stovepipe that you mentioned) on the 115g rounds. I used the original 17 round magazine so I wonder if that may have something to do with the stovepiping since you used the 21 round magazine. Just thinking out loud. BTW, great review. I think the gun is incredible but I am a biased SIg owner. I also have the P226 Legion and the P938 Legion.
Thanks! I've been waiting for this. I love my CZs and Walthers but man this looks like a relative bargain for a comp ready gun out of the box. I might need to find one to fondle!
I absolutley love my standard PPQ... Over 5,000 rounds through it and Zero malfunctions! but I think Walther kind of shot themselves in the foot by not making the Q5 match or SF Q5 match with a slightly longer grip and 21 round mags in order to properly compete with the Shadow or other proper race guns! Especially with the price of the SF version!
I have a hybrid P320. I named it Monster. It has a RX upper with a Romeo 1 red dot, and suppressor height night sights. It has an X5 lower with that awesome X5 mag well. I also upgraded the trigger to give it more of a 1911 feel...I came out cheaper than buying a Legion that runs +$1200 where I live. Monster is all the good things a true Legion has to offer for half the cost. I am waiting on a threaded barrel that is on backorder. Once the barrel and my tax stamp comes in, Monster will be done. It shoots like a dream now. I have over 3000 rounds through it with no issues...Remember P320 is a modular pistol. Look at your options and save yourself some money. Legion is an awesome pistol. But you are really only paying for the name.
I wish you did the DH3 as well. I have the DH3 9mm and it's amazing. I bought the X-Carry Legion and not the X5 because I knew I was getting the DH3 so I have both. I would like to hear your thoughts between the two!
Ryan Banman good luck fellas but I'm afraid you are outnumbered by a very large margin. My ex is a Canadian and I spent much time in Ontario and I would get an ear full by almost everyone once they found out I was a gun guy.
Ryan Banman yeah I don't understand it either, but a firearm is so normal here it doesn't bat an eye. Canadian trucker huh? Any money in that up there?
Ryan Banman thankfully there is still money in it down here in the states. I drive myself locally and home everynight. Definitely don't want to do it forever my a cdl is like gold down here.
Ryan Banman man a lot of you all go to fire training in Texas. Lol my ex's friends fiancé in Canada went down there for fire school. Fire is hard to break out into up there from hearing him talk about it.
Ryan Banman I know what you mean. We are all puppets to big government. Makes me sick. Can always learn a trade brother. Working on power lines is in demand everywhere and you could utilize your cdl at the same time since they are required to have them.
Nice video!! Sig just emailed me to try and buy this frame for $300, and recently emailed me about several hundred dollar slides. Frankly for all this cost and weight, I’d rather go with the P226. It’s neat they are offering options, they just seem over priced. Funny you mentioned the takedown lever, mine has always been a bear.
Thank you! I agree that steel is awesome but there is something exciting about the tungsten frame and it truly feels amazing. Thank you and cheers Scott!
Great informative review. Have had some interest in this new pistol but haven't found an in depth look of it until I received a notification for your review. I've always liked the look of the P320 X5. This Legion version has even more eye candy. Sig's metal infused grip module wizardry is a great innovation to add weight, and keep costs down. By comparison, the Walther Q5 steel frame nearly doubles the cost (ouch!!) of the standard Q5 Match, which I currently own and really enjoy shooting. The price point of this Legion version though would place it in between the standard Walther Q5 Match and CZ Shadow 2. I love match pistols and this new X5 Legion might just earn its way into my growing collection before the Shadow 2.
Thank you Driver! I do agree about the look with X5. I think it’s a very visually appealing gun. The tungsten in the frame really is a great feature and you can see the difference immediately at the range. Good point about it landing between the standard Q5 and Shadow 2. That would make for an interesting comparison! Cheers brother!
@@KSGunGuy01 It also appears that H&K is throwing their hat into the mid-tier polymer based 9mm match pistol arena, (long description) with the HK VP9L. For now it appears to be only a separate barrel/slide combo for about $325. Add the $550 cost of the VP9 and you have an $875, 5" barreled match pistol. So many choices, wish I could buy them all.
320 X5 rear sight is jacked up because Sig decided to put a taller than needed front sight on it. Even Dawson told me they suggested a shorter front to Sig , but they still kept it. some say the reason is that the romeo would co witness with the taller front sight i have held the new legion. man what a brick. its as heavy as my 2011. also the 21 rd mags are not legal for uspsa 140mm as they were jsut slightly too long with the stock floor plates.
Nice! Its very impressive I was picking one up and the slide had a scratch in the rear slide serrations that was deep 😞 so im waiting till they get another one. Have a awesome weekend.
Hello KS.......Thanks for a cool video. I like the look of the ported slide on the Sig. That look alone placed the X5 in a "legion of its own". For the price of the Sig handguns, I am happy to see them package the X5 with 3 magazines. Some of the magazines cost more than a box of 50 rds.
Gotta ask since I'm curious. (Edited since I found this question answered, it is cut for Romeo 1 Pro/DPP which is EXCELLENT to see, which means it'll take the Romeo 1T and Romeo 2 as well) I see a lot of people mentioning the weight is over for IDPA by half an ounce...but couldn't that be remedied by simply changing the magwell to a lighter one or removing the internal weight in the grip? Will you be a doing a revisit to the "If I could only have one" between the Shadow 2 and this one? Would be nice to see Shadow 2 vs X-5 Legion and PPQ Q5 SF Match against each other (without trigger mods).
KS - great review as always! I have one on order and am looking forward to receiving it. Your review, as always, is the most balanced and your praises and criticisms both seem to be spot-on. Yes, it should have had 21-rounders. I have enough of them from my only other P320 but that isn’t the point. Yes, the Romeo-1 Pro does have a white, 2-dot cut out in the back to act as a rear sight, OR it takes the Delta Point Pro (a proven red dot) to which a rear sight can be added. My only question - do you always put your full length recoil springs in that way? Truly, it MAY NOT make a difference, but in the 1911-world conventional practice is to put the “closed end” (double loop) onto the guide rod first and allow the “open end” to go to the muzzle. Yours worked but I just got a little chuckle. Little things amuse me LOL. Thanks again my friend!
Thank you very much Jason! I truly appreciate it brother. Good question on the spring and I am just doing it the way it original came but now you have me curious about flipping it around, lol. Cheers as always!
For the first 17 minutes, I was like «yes! yes!» as this upgraded X5 ticks all the boxes I was looking for in a new IPSC production gun. This was followed by a «No!» at 16.55 - I guess the Legion will never make it on to the approved production list with a 3.5 pound trigger pull?
Have you actually pulled the trigger on one? I was at my local gun store fondling a few of their guns and the trigger on this blew my mind. The break after the wall is smooth as butter (no gritty feeling) and ghostly (I didn't know when it would break). I never understood it when some GunTubers would say "trigger pull weight isn't everything" until I tested the trigger on this beast
Outstanding review, KSGG! I love the idea of the increased grip module weight. I wish there was a way to quantify the difference over polymer frame. The Full Size is such a sweet shooter, I can imagine the X-Five is incrementally better and it would be fun to see what the heavier tungsten one improves/changes. Two pertinent points. One, I got an email from Sig just yesterday telling me they are now selling the tungsten grip separately. Two, my X triggers arrived today and I got them in my three non-XCarry P320’s. They work as advertised and, in my case, even better. All three have had the safety recall done and the triggers worked in all three, including the 90° break. The added benefit for me was that they removed all traces of the tiny bit of squishiness I was feeling since the recall; they are practically as “tight” as my X Carry. The Apex triggers were a vast improvement, these are even better. So now I have the X trigger in my Full Size. If I get the tungsten grip module I guess I’ll have an “almost X5”. My old Sub Compact is now virtually an X-Compact. It’s like Barbie dolls for men!
Thank you Jake! Yes, the heavier frame makes a huge difference in my opinion. It’s effortless to shoot. Congrats on the triggers! I’m glad you like them. Your full size will definitely be close to the X5 and you won’t want to shoot anything else, lol. Cheers brother!
they do the flush fit mags with with heavy base plates so the drop free n the over hun can fit in the measurement box for idpa n ipsc. but i agree with it def look better with the 21rd mags. that another reason i got a older xfive it was much cheaper, n came with the 4 21rd mags n they fit in my m17. plus we only do uspsa so 21rd mags are perfect 140mm length.
@@charlescarr3909 yeah it is!! i was gonna wait to these updsted xfive then sig nold me no changes. so i bought the first pne i could get for the price k wanted.
Put an Align Tactical gas pedal/takedown lever on this P 320 Legion and you will notice even better handling characteristics. I installed one on my HK VP9 and it help[ed me immensely.
I LOVE Sig, but I can't see spending $1,000 for 8 ounces. I love my 320 X5, but I just can't see where the juice is worth the squeeze for the Legion model. As always, THANK YOU K.S. for the great content. Semper Fi Brother.
@Jim Gregory I just ordered the TXG tungsten frame from Sig, it's the same frame as the Legion so all you have to do is put it on your X5 slide and trigger assembly on the frame.
I think you’re going to be able to find these for more in the $850 ballpark which actually isn’t bad considering all that you get. It’s a crazy good shooter Jim. Thank you as always and cheers brother!
Just bought the XFIVE LEGION three weeks ago. I could not be happier with it. I do have one question though, did you paint the spring? Mine was just black. I wish they would've put the legion mark on the grips :( .
I held a P320 x5 legion today and like you said it was a little difficult to insert the magazine. When I put inthe mag it felt like it was recessed in. So,like you said it would be better with a 21 round mag.
P320 X5 is in my Hall Of Fame and Worthy. After I put in a competition trigger set, a 1911 recoil spring, a red point and lazer/flashlight with magnet activation in the holster. The pistol is like using a firehose now. Very little barrel rise and low impact on the hand.
It's a "competition ready" pistol. The magazine requirements are strict which is why they only gave 17 round mags. They could have given like 2 more though.
A while back you did a review on the standard X5 vs the Shadow 2. You seemed to like both but preferred the shadow. How about this X5 Legion vs the shadow, does it beat the shadow or come close?
i trigger thud, has completely disappeared in the m17 after 3000 rds its so great now, i hope the same happens to the xfive. m17 after being broke in is as good as my old preupgrade p320 that trigger was perfect.
Hey KS, my brother wants black xfive, its still in great shape only used one year of comps m the range maybe 2yrs. Take that cash n put if into a legion. What do u think. I always hated the xfives trigger its light but long break/reset...older gen.
As always, great review!! My only concern is, im not sure I like how fast that barrel is showing signs with only 200 something rounds Is that something to be concerned with?!
Thank you very much! Good question on the barrel. I find that Sigs tend to wear fast in the beginning, then settle in. Not something to worry about however. Cheers!
KSGunGuy Thank you for reply! Not only are you the best gun reviewer on youtube, you have ALWAYS responded to my questions and posts and that says so much about your character. You are really the best!! Thank you again so much.
This one is like the huge big sister to the x compact. I’m sure it shoots really well as I’ve enjoyed the x compact. However the x compact failed to knock the p07 out of edc rotation. I can only speculate until I shoot one but I don’t think the shadow 2 gets beat by this sig offering. I do have a bias for DA/SA that only gets overlooked if the striker fired option is super smooth
Very true about the size Rooster. Both the X5 and X Compact have been winners so far this year. I hope that trend continues. As for the Shadow 2... we shall see, though it’s going to tough to knock it off the throne. Thank you and cheers brother!
Did I miss who won? Did the Shadow2 get dethroned? Wat? I picked up the tenacious folder Spyderco for my Dad from your link and he loves it. How about a if you could only have one between a Cz Rami and a glock26 or Sig 365xl? Great job as always.
The Shadow 2 has definitely not be dethroned... yet, lol. Maybe someday? That’s awesome about the Spyderco and thank you for that. It’s an awesome knife and I still have one from ‘95 that’s still going strong. I do want to try a RAMI at some point. I’ll try to make that happen Howard! Thank you and cheers brother!
