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Sigma 17mm F4 DG DN (iSeries) Review | A Portable Wide Angle Solution 

Dustin Abbott
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@fellowcitizen
@fellowcitizen Год назад
Absolutely spot on about portability. I've dubbed these breezy lenses "Studio 55": I-series 17/4, 24/3.5, 45/2.8, 90/2.8 & aps-c 18-50/2.8, 56/1.4 -- all threaded for 55mm filters, and weighing 215 - 295g. Allowing a lighter attitude, as well as lightness of carriage.
@DustinAbbottTWI
@DustinAbbottTWI Год назад
They are definitely nice and portable.
@GoergeSwenton
@GoergeSwenton Год назад
I am really thankful for all the work and all the time you spent making these lovely videos. Thank you, Dustin!
@DustinAbbottTWI
@DustinAbbottTWI Год назад
That's very kind. Thank you!
@wocekderejczyk1345
@wocekderejczyk1345 Год назад
Now we’re looking forward to see a longer telephoto prime in Sigma’s I series, like 135 F2.8.
@DustinAbbottTWI
@DustinAbbottTWI Год назад
Agreed.
@careylymanjones
@careylymanjones Год назад
This could be a good lens for handheld vlogging with the new ZV-E1. Especially considering the crop factor for the dynamic active mode stabilization. You need a really wide lens to compensate for the crop.
@DustinAbbottTWI
@DustinAbbottTWI Год назад
For sure.
@Lalnunmawia
@Lalnunmawia Год назад
How is it comparing to Samyang 18mm f/2.8?
@DustinAbbottTWI
@DustinAbbottTWI Год назад
It is sharper than the Samyang and obviously has better build quality, though the Samyang has aperture advantage.
@user-jp9js9th8o
@user-jp9js9th8o Год назад
thank you very much for the illustrative review of both small format primes! Whereas I don't have any issues with the nifty-fifty, here my impressions and minus points about the 17 mm (translated by< google, pardon for any imprecise wordings therefore...): A short focal length, packed relatively compactly, is a good idea. Although the image quality is very good, except for the strong distortion in RAW (which costs image quality when corrected!), I have two points of criticism - the lens is actually much "too small" - measured against the 20 mm 2.0, its size would have been okay and would have fitted in very well with the series, at least with a speed of 2.8 IMPORTANT: that's why the classic B+W S-Pro filters (clear / UV) don't fit - the tube on which the lens hood is attached using a bayonet lock is narrower than the broader filter. Consequence: the filter protrudes slightly over the edge, the attachable bayonet hood no longer fits in! So I had to buy a new B+W Master Clear Filter for 40 E, which makes the following point even more important: - Measured by the mechanical aspects and the low "speed", I find the price too high, actually it should be at least 100 € cheaper I don't understand why Sigma (like many or actually all photo manufacturers unfortunately) doesn't ask the users beforehand about their wishes. In any case, I would have said that I find so much compactness for so little speed problematic. A bit bigger, but F 3.5 or 2.8 would have been great! I now use it as a second lens next to, for example, the Canon TS - E 17 mm shift lens - at least the focal length and perspective match So, dear company Sigma: set up a customer advisory board, then everything will be better
@DustinAbbottTWI
@DustinAbbottTWI Год назад
Thanks for your feedback. Hopefully Sigma will see it.
@harveylouis445
@harveylouis445 4 месяца назад
Are you saying that filters won't screw onto this lens with the lens hood attached?
@user-jp9js9th8o
@user-jp9js9th8o 4 месяца назад
@@harveylouis445 No - excuse me for any misunderstanding: some older b+w filters were too thin, but the newer and others from Nisi etc. do fit quite well with their slimmer form factor around the thread: pls check it out - a great lens, a real gem;-)!
@adrianfaulkner1353
@adrianfaulkner1353 8 месяцев назад
although a apsc lens I wonder if on A7Riv the Sony 11mm f1.8 would be better, just as small roughly 16.5mm on ff but a faster aperture
@DustinAbbottTWI
@DustinAbbottTWI 8 месяцев назад
So long as 26MP is sufficient for you.
@gitithadani
@gitithadani Год назад
I have 2 of their slow lenses in the I series & the optics are special - also because of their MFD. The other f2 lenses in the series are larger with std mfd. This compact format works very well with the FP camera series & for the compact sony a7c. I prefer the 20mm fl - also for the R5. And for the wider range the 17-28 tamron. But it's amazing to see these compact lenses particularly for smaller bodies. It is also interesting to see the development of compact lenses with in built software correction.
@DustinAbbottTWI
@DustinAbbottTWI Год назад
There's definitely room for these type of lenses.
@therealsergio
@therealsergio Год назад
I was eyeing this lens with some interest, but having just invested in FE 20-70 G, its become kind of moot for me, since the built-in ultrawide 20 will get that job done for me and not require packing anything extra (or shelling out another $600). Extreme landscapers or home interior applications may not think 20mm ultra wide enough, but its enough for me.
@DustinAbbottTWI
@DustinAbbottTWI Год назад
That's fair.
@harveylouis445
@harveylouis445 4 месяца назад
Excellent review, as usual. Did you get a chance to test this on APS-C, particularly in reference to distortion and vignetting?
@davidwallace8980
@davidwallace8980 Год назад
Your reviews are the best. I have an idea which is off topic, but I think would make interesting comparison. How do early productions lenses compare to recent versions. I just received my FE50/1.4 Ziess Planar which was made on 01/01/2023. Based on my experience so far it is fantastic. How dose it compare with a lens produced years ago? When I worked for Sony electronics, our motto was continuous improvement. My 35 and 24GM's seem to give equal results to the Ziess. It does still have the slight AF noise, but accuracy seems to be very good. Just an idea for something new.
@DustinAbbottTWI
@DustinAbbottTWI Год назад
Interesting thought experiment, David. I'll keep it in mind, though I do have a lot of review demands for some time
@GuitarRJP
@GuitarRJP Год назад
I have the Sony A74 with the 24mm F1.4 GM which is a great lens, but I like the idea of any lens that I take when traveling, to be less than 1lb. (453 grams). I have the Sony ZV-E1 for travel video on order, so am looking for some lightweight travel lenses for it. I think this (or the Sony 20mm f1.8) the 40mm or 50mm f2.5 G and the 85mm f1.8 seem like a good setup.
@DustinAbbottTWI
@DustinAbbottTWI Год назад
Sounds reasonable to me.
@evenatienzaart
@evenatienzaart 3 месяца назад
Hello, Dustin: Would you prefer this or the Viltrox 20mm f2.8 paired with the Tamron 28-200 and Sony a7c for hiking/backpacking/travel-with an emphasis on landscapes and architecture? TIA
@DustinAbbottTWI
@DustinAbbottTWI 3 месяца назад
Interesting question. This Sigma is great optically, though the maximum aperture is a little slow. If that isn't a big deal for you, though, grab the Sigma.
@evenatienzaart
@evenatienzaart 3 месяца назад
@@DustinAbbottTWI Thanks, Dustin. I think I will. The size, weight and maximum aperture are fine for my outdoor daylight use. And I am willing and able to treat myself to what looks like a beautifully designed and crafted instrument.
@Mauroplcr
@Mauroplcr 6 месяцев назад
Good video thx ! there is also a Sigma 20 mm F2 , which is better ? only 3mm difference....
@DustinAbbottTWI
@DustinAbbottTWI 6 месяцев назад
Two different priorities with those lenses (the 20mm isn't nearly as compact). I would probably lean towards the 20mm for the low light capabilities, but your needs might be completely different.
@acouragefann
@acouragefann Год назад
I feel it's a bit of a shame that having rounded aperture blades for more rounded bokeh balls / specular highlights stopped down has become such a de facto "norm" in recent years. A lens like this would really benefit from 5 straight blades for clearly defined sunstars. If one really needed round bokeh balls (unlikely to be a really important faczor at 17mm to begin with) one could still stick to F4. Nice sunstars can sometimes really elevate an image from good to great.
@DustinAbbottTWI
@DustinAbbottTWI Год назад
Completely agree on a lens like this. The opportunities to create bokeh are very limited with a lens like this, anyway.
@sulev111
@sulev111 Год назад
Primary competition is the 16-28/f2.8. Also small, light, sharp, but brighter, costs 300$ more.
@fellowcitizen
@fellowcitizen Год назад
L-mount also has the Lumix 14-28mm f/3.5-5.6 at 350g, and the Lumix 18mm f/1.8 at 340g (both weather-sealed, but chunkier.) They're all expensive options, though.
@DustinAbbottTWI
@DustinAbbottTWI Год назад
Some good suggestions here.
@ourhouseuk
@ourhouseuk Год назад
I can’t fathom buying this over the Sony 20g (wider than 20). Other than really needing 2 mm wider, if that.
@DustinAbbottTWI
@DustinAbbottTWI Год назад
The 20G is a really strong lens.
@careylymanjones
@careylymanjones Год назад
In Dynamic Active Steadyshot on the ZV-E1, you get a crop almost like an APS-C. 17mm becomes equivalent to about 24.5mm.
@justinward8072
@justinward8072 Год назад
How would you say this compares to the tamron 17-28 f/2.8? Obviously different lenses but if shot both at f4 would you say this is sharper? I never really jived with the 17-28 and am liking the size of this lens. Would be using it for landscapes while hiking and traveling
@DustinAbbottTWI
@DustinAbbottTWI Год назад
It certainly isn't softer. This is a very sharp little lens. It sounds like a very good fit for the application you are describing.
@Gregs_Camera
@Gregs_Camera Год назад
Possible new lens for my Sony A7ii, what tripod are you using in the video?
@DustinAbbottTWI
@DustinAbbottTWI Год назад
Oben Tabletop Tripod shown in video: bhpho.to/3vL8YWy
@AR-vf7vg
@AR-vf7vg Год назад
Compared to Batis 18mm ..? (..for a friend)
@DustinAbbottTWI
@DustinAbbottTWI Год назад
It's been so long since I've reviewed the Batis that I'm working mostly off memory. The Batis has a fair bit of distortion as well. IIRC, the center of the Batis is very sharp, but the corners are a bit softer. I would say the Sigma is probably sharper in the corners. The Batis colors are probably going to be slightly richer, as that is a strength for Zeiss. The Sigma is much smaller and obviously a bit wider, though at the cost of a smaller maximum aperture.
@tangiblemind
@tangiblemind Год назад
Hi, would you use it for Astro photography?
@DustinAbbottTWI
@DustinAbbottTWI Год назад
F4 is not an optimal aperture for astro photography, but I I supposed it could do in a pinch.
@standapp9172
@standapp9172 Год назад
The Sigma 16mm f1.4 is a great wide angle astro lens for APS-C. For Sony FE you should check out the Sony 28mm F2, Sigma 24mm f/1.4 DG HSM, Samyang has a few really sharp and cheap lenses with f2.8 apertures that I've used and they're not bad either.
@frankfeng2701
@frankfeng2701 Год назад
It's slow and yet not as compact as RF16 2.8, while costing twice as much.
@DustinAbbottTWI
@DustinAbbottTWI Год назад
But yet much better optically than the RF lens...and with infinitely nicer build quality.
@ScalzoPhoto
@ScalzoPhoto Год назад
​@@DustinAbbottTWIIn my opinion both RF16 2.8 and Sigma 17mm are GREAT for video, especially using a gimbal, for travel videos. A perfectionist doing photography only, probably would have other lenses as well, but these two are great for video gimbal work. Also, fitting a camera in your jacket pocket and walking around is nice.
@sulev111
@sulev111 Год назад
SECOND
@EatCoffee
@EatCoffee Год назад
FIRST
@johndennis5233
@johndennis5233 7 месяцев назад
All of the greatest universities in the World - and many of the not-so-great ones for that matter, have a thing called the Department of Polymer Science and Engineering. They make polymers that have far better resistance to corrosives than metals, less deformable than metals, stronger than metals, harder than metals, less brittle than metals, have less thermal expansion/contraction than metals, more durable than metals, and are far lighter than metals - to name a but few. And yet, you dismiss their work as “a tacked on plastic afterpiece”. This is despite the polymers used in lenses being, when required, less less plastic than metals. Instead, you champion a more corrodible, softer, deformable, alternative with terrible thermal properties, and which of course, is much heavier. Why?
@DustinAbbottTWI
@DustinAbbottTWI 7 месяцев назад
My point is about consistency. If you want to be critical of metals, then why not critique the body of the lens? How about the brass mount? In the terms of the feel of the materials, the plastic lens hood is a poor match.
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