Hope to see powerful successor to A6600 in 2022 now that Sony finally ready to unleash the a7 IV. APS-C people needs some love too, Sony or they will jump to Nikon ZFC and Fuji soon.
I dont know if we have to say it is “Saved” Their camera line is excellent and while it may not have the same body tech as Fuji (right now) they have way more lens availability and third party accessory support. Sony built this category and I doubt they will be the ones to lose it.
@@dubenick I'm a Sony aps-c owner and I literally hope they lose their own line. Their business model and handling is utter bullshit, from the color science to horrible menus and their remote app/mobile app is simply abysmal. The cameras struggle with some incredibly trivial, basic tasks which one would take for granted. And all that is topped by either crappy native lens, or overpriced Zeiss-tagged lenses. Naturally, no OSS on any third party lenses which are actually worth their money and not overpriced. So yeah.. not seeing a lot of reasons to stick with them, especially considering how Sony is infamous for dropping support, changing their ways at the first sign of profit going down. They've become a really shitty company in the last decade or so.
Just got my Sony A6700 and I ordered this lense to go with it because of your review. Wow this lense is truly capable and it fits so nicely with an APS-C camera. It's crisp, the bokeh is amazing, it's quiet, its autofocus is fast. It's such a fantastic value and I can't recommend it enough.
Maybe just check out the ‘DPReview TV’ review before buying it. They pointed out a few more flaws than Arthur did. I don’t know who’s right here, but they had quite a different take on just how good this lens is.
@@kane4013 here’s another interesting review that compares the same three apsc zoom lenses ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-ObH5uqmRwH4.html
Big congratulations on the second child on the way. Awesome review, I was thinking about going full frame a couple of years ago when there were not a lot of lenses coming out for Sony APSC but we are now spoiled for choice at the moment. Keep up the great work.
Hey, Arthur! Did I get that picture of you and Janessa and the "Big Bro" holding the ultrasound printout right? If so, my sincere congratulations to you and Jenessa!
This past week I was considering buying the Sigma 18-35mm 1.8 for Canon EF with the MC-11 Adapter for my a6600. I cannot tell you how excited I am right now! Thanks for the review. Best Sony APSC reviewer on RU-vid!
@@Lana.USA. That is partially because of the lens not adapting as well as others and also because of the older focusing system on your a6500. Newer cameras like the a6100, a6400, a6600, A7c, A9 I/II, A7R IV, and A1 all focus much better with adapted lenses.
For filming? When I first read about the 18-50 2.8 i thought about how nice it would be to have this combination on my ronin sc. 6600 + 18-50. what do you think?
The 18-50 is pretty cool…. I got my 18-35 f1.8 and mc-11 combo last year and it is no joke either…. One of the few lenses that has produced extremely sharp images corner to corner, comes in handy when cropping. Also can be used on a gimbal since it doesn’t extend. Rarely comes off my a6000 and awesome for indoor event shoots and almost everything else haha… but will def be looking into this as its a great travel lens.
Just bought Sony A6700 with this lens, and must say, I`m so impressed! Compact, portable, and the constant f/2,8 is an "eye-opener", to say the least, literally, compared to my nine years old A6000/Sony 18-55mm 3,5-5,6!! Supersharp edge-to-edge, and unbeatable "bang for the buck"!!🙂
Thanks for another trusted review Arthur. Congrats to the Sigma team for creating a high performance, compact travel zoom at such an affordable price point. No IS, no problem for photos. Let the shutter fly and, where higher ISO is needed, nothing a little NR in post can't handle. For devoted aps-c video shooters, you probably have a gimbal already to obtain those buttery smooth, stabile shots. If no gimbal, it's a an upgrade definately worth considering. Better capability than most IS, and they are getting more affordable and more compact. Congratulations your growing family Arthur!
Although not evident in the side by side comparisons some of these shots look sharper than what I can get off my Tamron 17-70 wide open. It’s really amazing what Sigma did here for the price. Thanks for the great review.
Look careful at the pictures and you will see where the focal plane is on the wonderful model. In one shot, the wife's nose tip is in focus, in the other pix from the competing lens, the nose is a little out and the focal plane is closer to the eyes. So, I conclude that these are all incredible lens. I'm going to get the Sigma for my son's camera as he doesn't have a zoom in this focal length range. I am so stoked. I'd get one but I have the 18-105mm zoom and it does fine for me and I love the internal zoom feature. But...if I didn't, the Sigma would be in my inventory. Long Live ASP-C cameras. I absolutely love my a6600.
Thank you for making this lens! Could you please make a super light wide zoom f2.8 too? Even if starts at 14mm will give almost 20mm fullframe which is so useful
Lens arrived today. Slapped it on my a6600 and fired off some sample photos. It's tiny, tight and beautiful. It also produces very sharp pictures. My son is going to love using this lens with hopes of getting many close ups and videos of my grandson driving him crazy.
Finally! (😁 ) I made my choice between Sony 16-55mm or Sigma 18-50mm Last week, I order the the Sony 15-55mm for my Sony A6000 (I did mind to pay for the best quality lenses) I wait a week without any news. So I cancel my order to switch to this Sigma for many positive point: The price is $$$ vs $$$$ for Sony, Because I don't do video at all, I have no need to pay for steady F2.8 , the Sigma is much lighter, the quality is only a touch higher on Sony. But, I will miss the focus manual/automatic button (I do have it on my Sony 18-135mm. Great range) Another very positive difference for me is all Sigma lenses have 7 years guaranty in CANADA! 😁 // Thanks Arthur.
Dude, I've been watching your videos for a really long time and would like to thank you for being consistent with APSC lenses. I wouldn't of known about this release if it wasn't for your channel. Keep it up!
The Tamron seems to me to be very competitive. Its price increase seems to me to be well justified by the addition of the optical stabilization and the little extra tele. I can see these two holding their grounds. The Sony one though, quite a jump in price. Thanks for the review!
I would definitely be in the market for the Sigma for my 6100 but just bought the Tamron . I absolutely love the Tamron and think I would miss the extra 20mm. I know it is bigger but seems to be about the perfect carry range. I am selling my Sigma 30mm and Sony 50mm. Keeping the Sigma 16mm because it is just awesome and I so some astro with it. Love your channel.
I currently have the Sony 18-105 4.0 and the Sigma 16mm 1.4. I wanted to watch out for getting the trio together, but this lens really makes me reconsider everything
travelling with a Sigma 16, Sony 35/50/55-210 is such a major hassle to switch lenses. i sold all my gear and can't decide yet if i go FF or still APS-C, but if i have to choose APS-C i am going with either the Tamron or this Sigma
Perhaps a strange comparison would be with the Sony 18-135. About the same price and about the same weight. The Sigma gives us a brighter lens (but I’m curious about better quality when at f-stops the two lenses share), and the Sony gives us longer reach.
I would actually like this review too. I have the 18-135 and used it a lot when backpacking (2 years around the world). Now I don't plan to use it traveling as much and perhaps more family picture taking. I have the 12mm Rokinon and the 30mm F1.4. Thinking about swapping my 18-135 for this Sigma 18-50 but want to make sure overall quality is better for the 50-135 I'll loose. I have found the Sony 18-135 a step up from the kit but find it overall a NOT sharp lens and don't enjoy using it. Any insights would be helpful. Cheers. SB
@@scottiebumich for traveling the 18-105 is far better, no questions asked. Covers every focal range. The OSS is super steady (sigma doesn’t have it) and the autofocus is far faster as it’s a native lense. The sigma is the sharper lense but for travel or grab and go shooting, you will be disappointed when you lose the 50-105. If you only had enough money for a single lense, I’d choose the 18-105 over any other lense just because of the versatility.
Sigma to the rescue once more! I have to pull the trigger on that one! Was looking forward to a lens like this. I have a few primes but they are driving me nuts while travelling. This is perfect!
10:51 That's exactly me when I saw the price first! Wish it had focus hold button like the sigma 28-70 f2.8 but we'll I'm still so happy with this lens and I think it will sell like hell! Kudos to sigma
Dang. I’ve been planning on upgrading my A6000 to A6400 after buying the Tamron 17-70. Now I can get the Sigma and A6600 for roughly the same money! Congrats on the new addition!
I already own both 30 and 56 mm. I was considering purchasing the 16 mm but this came out and made me reconsider. Today I just put my hands on a perfectly looking 16 mm for 250€. Frankly if I didn’t find this opportunity I would have just gone with this new lens. I am still going to purchase it nevertheless because of its compactness and because it will turn out perfect for family holidays abroad. I might always sell back the 30 and 16 mm afterwards if I am feeling like it but there’s no way I will ever get rid of my 56 mm. I love it too much and it basically turned my into a Sigma fanboy.
I'm getting this lens!...Update 2022: I got it and I'm so happy I bought it, is small but powerful, great value and is my go go lens for everyday situation.
It's funny, normally I would complain about 18mm not being wide enough as well, but the Sigma is so much physically shorter than the Sony and Tamron equivalents, I bet the 18mm appears wider than one would expect, simply due to the fact that the end of the lens is farther away from the subject. Well done Sigma! Also nice reveal at 7:05 Arthur 😉 Wishing you guys the best.
I've been thinking about getting the Tamron lens for a while, but its price was preventing me. But this lens looks like it is exactly what I wanted, price included. Thanks Arthur for an exciting video!!
Due in part to Arthur's reviews, 4 years ago I purchased a Sony a6000 and the Sigma 16mm f/1.4 lens as an upgrade to using a phone camera for an upcoming road trip here in the PNW, and that setup has been great. Then two weeks ago I took advantage of a killer price on an a6600 (
For me 18 instead of 16 make a difference, 50 instead of 55 does not matter. For the price and size it is fantastic. It is so many lenses for Sony APS-C now, the problem is that Sony don't give us new bodies. a6600 have a mediocre EVF, a bad screen and a lot of rolling shutter, and with those weaknesses it is still rather expensive.
Great review. I just bought this for my a6300 and I agree totally with your recommendation. Portability/lightweight for hiking and skiing is a major consideration for my own use (I'm fed up of carrying a huge DSLR up mountains!) This lens is perfect for this and daily walk around use. The compromises on zoom range and lack of OS are totally offset by the low price. Stabilization is also less relevant at wide aperture and at the shorter focal lengths so I don't miss it. The lens is elegantly simple, small and produces stunning images. What's not to like?
Recently got the Tamron, but would have gotten this instead. It's half the size. Tamron is amazing with VR - but just too dang big. This is basically the alternate kit lens that people ought to get with their a6 series. They should make a slightly larger version with VR, would pay money for that.
This looks terrific! I have the sigma trio, but for travel I usually carry the Sony 18-105 and only one of the primes. Now, if Sigma would release a relatively compact telephoto zoom to be paired with this lens, that would be perfect! Also, congrats to the whole family!
Looks like a very nice lens. But I'd choose the Tamron over it again, not so much because of the bit more wideangle but the 20mm more tele. Not to forget the excellent image stabilization. But it's very good to see that Sigma is still producing new stuff for APS-C. Love their primes. Hopefully they make a f2.8 tele zoom for APS-C as well.
Congratulations on the baby!!! Happy for you guys. Arthur, I’ve been following since you did the review on the a6000, which lead me to buy it and get into photography. I just wanna say, thank you and god bless! You’re an inspiration 🙌
I have Sigma 56 & 16 (both f1.4), and was thinking of selling off the 16 in favour of this lens as I realised I hardly use it at f1.4 anyway and the versatility of the zoom is too important. The images you posted were sharp af. I think you just managed to convince me to consider this lens, though I had my heart set on the Tamron 17-70 aswell.
Kinda wish it was a bit wider at the low end, 16-50 would be the perfect affordable step up from the 16-50 kit lens. 18 is just a bit too wide for vlogging to me personally
@@EinzMY Yeah I guess, but everything I do is between 16 and 50 mil. It’s only 2mm from being able to be the only lens in my kit, but because it’s not that bit wider, it’s no longer a do everything lens. When it could be, for a lot of people. Especially if it was a 15-50 instead of 16
Hey Arthur, you are by far the best Sony APS-C reviewer on RU-vid. Thank you for your clear assessments, I always make sure to watch your videos before making my decisions on gear!
I was a bit worried when I saw these reviews popping up on this lens, since I recently went for the Tamron 17-70 and so far I have to say, that I am still happy with my decision. Not having any vibration control on the Sigma is a bigger deal on my non-stabilized 6100, the Tamron does have a larger zoom range and in the more technical reviews the Sigma did not perform quite as well as the Tamron (especially in LoCA, slightly in sharpness). The Sigma is a great lens for the price / size, but I think I'd personally still go with the Tamron.
I recently went for the tamron as well, and oh boy, after 2 years of shooting with non-stabilized lenses I don't think I am ever going back. Hope sony makes OSS a default for future APSC bodies.
Falko, kannst du mir mal einen Link zukommen lassen zu dem Vergleich zur Schärfe Tamron/Sigma? Ich kann das gerade gar nicht glauben. Ich habe mir das Tamron gekauft und bin extrem enttäuscht, was die Schärfe angeht. Es geht morgen zurück und ich werde mal das SIGMA versuchen, da ich mit dem 56er 1,4 extrem zufrieden bin. Danke dir.
@@thomasdoe6768 Habe mittlerweile ein paar neuere Videos mit direkten Vergleichen gesehen, wo die Sigma in der Tat besser abschneidet, zumindest was Schärfe in der Mitte angeht. Bei den getrennten Reviews von Christopher Frost klang das noch anders. Dort hörte es sich so an als wäre die Sigma in der Mitte vorne, aber am Bildrand schwächer. Außerdem fällt die Sigma wohl bei 50mm schon ziemlich ab. Die Tamron bleibt da noch etwas schärfer (besonders weil es ja noch bis 70 mm weitergeht), verliert aber stärker an Kontrast. Ansonsten hat sich meine Meinung allerdings nicht geändert, da ich eher am oberen Ende des Zoombereichs unterwegs bin und mir die Vibration Control wichtig ist. Hätte ich ne a6600 und wäre mehr in Städten als in Bergen unterwegs würde ich das ggf. anders sehen.
@@thomasdoe6768 Kein Problem :). Chris Frost Tamron: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-8HvhZ8r0GR4.html Chris Frost Sigma: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Ymx2Lx5A22U.html Interessanter, detaillierter Direktvergleich der drei Standardzoooms: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-ObH5uqmRwH4.html Christopher Frost ist insgesamt super für detaillierte und standardisierte Objektivtests.
That’s a terrific lens! I own Nikon Z50 and seriously thinking to buy it with Magadap ETZ11. But selling it and buy a Sony a6400 is not off the table. I prefe4 Nikon though. Congrats to Sigma! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Hope to see someone tests this lens with Nikon zfc or the z50 with the Megadap adapter too. Curious to see the adapted autofocus performance for video and stills
While specification wise it's not in the same league but usage wise at least for a part of its range the Sony 18-135 competes with this. Sony pricing too is close to this. The Sony 18-135 performs much beyond what's expected from it so I am interested to know how far behind it is compared to this sigma. Please do include it when you are doing a detailed comparison.
agreed. Just bought the 18-135 (its the same for the 18-105) and would like to see if this makes a nice addition or if I should go for the Sigma Prime.
Thanks for a great first take on this lens. I hope a 3-way comparison with the Tamron 17-70 and Sony 16-55 is in the near future. At the end of your review of the Tamron 17-70 you suggested selling everything and buying that lens. Has this lens changed your mind?
The Tamron is great, I cant describe it in any better way other than this Sigma feels more special. And its less money, smaller, and optically a touch better so far in my comparisons.
@@DanOehlsen I would love to see this comparison. Especially with the Sony 16-55. I am really impressed about the sharpness of this lense compared with the Sigma 3. This would be my first choice but the price is not from this world. On the other hand it becomes cheaper maybe because of Sigmas new competitor. In Europe you can get it with Sonys winter cashback for about 900€ Btw.: Just found this comparison between the three: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-ObH5uqmRwH4.html
This is like the single greatest channel for Sony camera content. Recently picked up an a6300 after binging a bunch of the buying guides, and the lens reviews/comparisons are always great.
Just bought the Tamron but this seems like a better travel lens, I do like the VC on the Tamron though since I’m on an a6400. So now I’m considering if I want to bite the bullet and get this lens as well for days when I don’t want such a chunky lens like the Tamron. Hmmm
Before Tamron gave us an APS-C lens I tested the 28-75 as Full-Frame on my A6400. I was just disappointed with the lens. Quality was okay for the price but damn - Missing OSS is just a Pain. If you're not living in the bahamas with Bright sunlight all day long you will miss OSS. It's not that I can't take pictures without it - I know the rules and how to use it unstabilized. Rocked a 50mm Minolta for a year. But it's just frustrating when you have to really work hard for pictures when you know that there is a better solution for it.
The dramatisation made this video for me. 😆😆 Thanks for your reviews; I’ve bought a a6100 and the sigma 30 in the last two weeks 👍👍 as a result of watching them.
The fact that you got so excited with with the Sony G and took the lens with you to the trip & then with the stabilized Tamron came and you were really excited about the value. Now, when this Sigma compact came along you are so impressed and excited, tells us that this is a really really awesome lense!
Congrats to the growing family! Thanks for this review. Sigma seems to have done a great job. The price is just awesome. If this is going to drop its price over the years, no one will use the kit lens anymore...
Спасибо тебе за твой вклад, твои видео трудно переоценить! По стеклу - действительно, безальтернативная вещь! Спасибо еще раз, теперь буду знать, что покупать в следующий раз)
This lens looks really good, thrown a spanner in the works as to which to get next other this or the tameron 17-70... and I already own the sigma 16 and 30! Hear you with the price point for no OSS, but still lacking the perfect sony crop for video, without jellow and decent IBIS etc. so not quite there yet. Think Sigma are setting themselves up nicely for a 10-22 next, really hope that throw OSS on that and we will have a all time winner.
Great lens, this will be a huge step for Sony APS-C. Nevertheless I will keep my Sony 16-55 because for me it makes a significant difference to have 16mm instead of 18. When using the lens for travel photography/ landscapes, you can't have enough wide angle.
Wow! One could buy this Sigma and the Tamron 17-70 2.8 for less than the Sony 16-55 G! I just bought the Tamron 17-70 2.8 I wish I would have waited for this one. While the Tamron is a great lens its rather big for my needs. Great review!
Thanks for this review! I'm glad I didn't buy the Tamron 17-70mm. Going to save money with Sigma! Another reason for me not to buy the Sigma 30mm f1.4, but will keep the 16mm and 56mm f1.4 lenses. This Sigma 18-50mm will definitely be my all around and travel lens.
I think it starts at 18mm so as not to kill the Sigma 16mm f1.4. Paying 2/3 the price of the 18-50 2.8 for a prime, soley for the extra stops would be a hard sell on its own - if you combine that sell with the extra 2mm (which is alot on the wide end of focal lengths) then it keeps that lens more relevant too. I hope for Sigma to make an 18-35 F1.8 though for Sony E Mount APSC
Yeah, and the Sigma 16mm f1.4 is an outstanding lens for night shooting and is sharp to the corners. Even though I have the Sony 16-55 2.8, I can't part with the Sigma 16.
Considering this lens is f2.8, even if it went to 16mm, it still wouldn't replace the 16mm prime lens because of the F1.4 capability alone. I plan on doing the 16mm f1.4 for night/low light, astro, night street photography, the 56mm f1.4 for dedicated portrait photography and have this lens as a travel walk about lens. This will be my 'Sigma Trio". 😉
@@mrspeeddemon727 Two things I like about the Sigma 16mm over the Sony 16 - 55 f2.8. The Sigma has nearly no distortion in the corners, whereas the Sony does at 16mm. Secondly, the faster Sigma is marvelous in low light. I get amazing depth of field with the Sigma even at f5.6. Despite all this, the Sony lens is so versatile. I shoot it mostly at f4 to f8 in its full zoom range and its sharpness is second to none. In other words, both are superior lenses with different strengths. As I have come to know, you can get excellent results with most gear today if you know the limitations and work within those parameters. The difference is that normally the superior gear has a wider range of excellence.
1. Congrats! 2. That is a killer lens. If I used my a6000 more (broken EVF) I would get this lens. But I'm thousands deep in FE lenses as it is. But I just might add this to the list for travel and family stuff.
Another great review of a lens that keeps up the high bar of image quality with the low price, the Sigma trio have a zoom lens to add to their family now. I'd love to see this zoom lens bring compared at 50mm with the 56m f1.4 to be honest. But it looks very promising indeed so far.
All these f2.8 standard-zoom lenses never really appealed to me. Until now. Most of the time, these lenses are monster things. Sure, they're probably good optics, but I'd rather just bring a prime and zoom with my feet, plus get an even faster aperture. But this is actually tempting because it's kit-lens-small yet f2.8 fast. If they ever make one for Fuji, I'll probably buy one really quick.
I was hoping for a 1.8 from sigma. their 18-35 1.8 dslr one was amazing. I was hoping they bring it back for mirrorles. I still hope, they will be able to do it. Even for double the price of this. Even if being that big and heavy like the tamron. but be it a 18-50 1.8.
Given that this lens is actually Sigma's first ever 2.8 zoom for native mirrorless aps-c, if this lens is proven popular Sigma might design the new 18-35 1.8 DC DN in the future. I myself would prefer Sigma to design 16-30mm 1.8 instead.
