I love these videos but I decided to shed some more light on this as well. Starting with Season 1, You can tell that Ladybug aka Marinette, found Chat Noir as an annoyance. If anything, Ladybug mainly treated him as a partner and nothing more. However, in Dark Cupid, Ladybug knew the only way to break the curse was that true love's kiss would work. She used the excuse she was 'saving' him but that would mean any kiss could have easily break the spell. But it would also mean that it was a chance it wouldn't have worked. If Ladybug didn't have feelings for him then, the kiss shouldn't broken the curse since Dark Cupid's powers had a fairytale weakness to it. Not to mention, that was a pretty deep kiss for a kiss to save someone. It was almost if she enjoyed it. So it might be possible, Ladybug have already been in love with Chat Noir but maybe she was in denial about her feelings because of Adrien. Now going forward, now the episode with Glaciator, you have to remember the expression Marinette had when Chat Noir first has taken her to show her the surprise he made for Ladybug. Her expression as she clung to him and wasn't disgusted if anything, it was more like an expression a woman would have been held in the arms of the one they loved. I think she felt bad, but at the same time, her feelings for him was growing because she saw a side of him that she never knew. As you pointed out, Ladybug's nicknames and physical contact increased, at first she would always make an annoyed face and seemed to brush off his advances. But, you can see that the more they spent time, her feelings for him changed. Then remember at the beginning of Frozer, when Chat Noir expressed his feelings with the rose, remember what Marinette told him? She said she couldn't imagine her life without the guy she liked being in the picture, but she never denied or disregarded the idea of being with Chat romantically. Over all, I think that Marinette has both feelings for them just like how Adrien is going to develop feelings for Ladybug and Marinette. I think the reason the process of them not knowing the other identity maybe Master Fu wanted Ladybug and Chat Noir to grow to love each other both with and without the mask. I believe their love might be the key to defeating Hawkmoth later, even Master Fu said that they were made for each other. Perhaps, he is waiting for the moment for their bond to grow stronger with their love before allowing them to reveal to each other. It's a theory, but it makes sense otherwise, why Master Fu keep it a secret when both owners are working together? I can understand why he would hide the fact his friends are heroes since it might effect him in some way knowing they will be harmed. But I think it's a plan that Master Fu has that is connected with their bond, just like how the butterfly and the peacock work together. After all Ladybug and Chat Noir Miraculous has always worked together as well, but there is alot we still don't know and what power they can create when placed in the right hands.
Awesome points!! I like the idea of their love for each other being key to defeating Hawk Moth. Yeah, that kiss though, it said only love can break the spell, and just because you kiss someone doesn’t mean you love them so... Maybe she does like him.☺️☺️
I think Adrien has a CRUSH on Mari, but is IN LOVE with Ladybug, and Mari has a CRUSH on Cat Noir, but is IN LOVE with Adrien. Edit: I’ve come back to this comment after watching season 3 finale. I saw a theory recently that said Mari and Adrien need to learn to love themselves before their relationship can work. They need to stop putting the other person on a pedestal (as one of the replies to this comment put it). Well I recently realized, HOW COOL WOULD IT IF THEY HELPED EACH OTHER?! Like, Adrien worships ladybug and Mari worships Adrien, so how cool would it be if Chat Noir helped Mari and vice versa? WE COULD GET SOME SERIOUS MARICHAT AND I FEEL THAT WOULD WORK SO WELL!!
so Ladybug and Adrien are putting each other on a high pedestal, meaning that they block away their feelings for the alter egos and are completely blinded bye their "Love" for each other. A bunch of other fans have noticed that their feelings are only infatuated with each other , which hey basically Admire each other (basically puts them on the pedestal like I mentioned earlier). So, now we have to wait until they realize their feelings for their true selves.
Marinette: "If there was no Adrien, I'd fall in love with Chat." Well girl, if there is no Adrien, there is no Chat too. Well of course master Fu would have chose someone else, but that's not the point.
And if there would be a different Chat Noir, I bet she would fall in love with his civilian form, and not Chat Noir, and the story would just repeat itself...
Marinette saying she would give chat noir a chance if adrien wasnt around is enough evidence for me. She's holding out for adrien but she still likes chat. I agree with everything else you said in the video. She doesnt need to call him kitty and be extra playful with chat. Also I've subscribed.
There is a youtuber called Aphmau and I'd Kawaii~Chan in that! She ships a lot of people.. My boat has it's sails up!! EEE!!!!!! LADY NOIR IS SAILING!!!!! YAS DONT STOP!!! SPEED!!!
Miraculous, Simply the best! Up to the test, when things so wrong! Miraculous, the luckiest! The power of love always soo strong! Miraculous! best song ever OvO hehehe..... not creepy.... Ooo What about the nightmare episode! The sand boy has checked in! Now nightmares shall begin! OFF A LITTLE TINY NIGHTMARE!!! OMG!!! What must cat noir be thinking... is... that.... ME?!!?! Soooo that means lady bug is... OMG MARINETTE!! (Wow..... T-T way to get on board late comer) Marinette is like O.O IGNORE THAT!!!! AHHH *rips pillow* TIME TO DE EVILIZE! (and get rid of that OMG!!)
I think Cat noir has really grown on Marinette. Since she realised his feelings are real she has taken him so much more seriously, which has made her more conscious of him. I believe she needs to love cat noir so that she accepts him whenever and however he gets revealed. If she didn't like cat noir, she would falter on finding out he is Adrien. That's what I think at least.
@@MiraculouslyLazy Hey what is your fav ship.. mine are 1st LadyNoir 2nd MariChat 3rd Adrienette 4th Ladrien 😊😊 Ya LadyNoir is my total Freakout ship... it is my first priority than others ... what 'bout you?
She may like adrien but if she knew who was really behind that mask of cat noir she would totally change her attitude towards him and realize just like adrien did in cat blanc that they are the same person with or without the mask
Ok I got somethin So in Mr. Pigeon when Marinette wins the hat while Gabriel Agreste is talking you can see Adrien making 👏a👏very👏quick👏wink nobody noticed it that's how unnoticeable it is, LIKE DUDE WHY DOES HE ALWAYS WINK AT HER!?!? And as Chat he always seems to flirt with only Marinette, you don't see him flirt with Chloe or any other interaction he has had with girls 👏only👏Marinette👏, Adrien child just... Just admit it 😂😂😂 your blind with love, and since he's been locked up in his house he's probably very new and clueless to love that's probably another reason that explains the whole "She's just a friend" quote and not knowing his feelings
Hahah oh my word this comment is beautiful! You’re right Adrien winks at Marinette a lot. And Adrien does treat Mari differently. Our poor Adrien, he needs to figure out his feelings lol ☺️😂
Omg your a genesis! That is one of the most insanely (if you thought about it) true things I have ever heard and I feel like that could end up being true! Omg now I look at this in hole new way that so interesting to think aboutTho! Like if you agree!🤔🤔😊😄
How heartbroken she was when he said that line! And when they had that girl meeting! Marinette is like 'WHAT!!?!?! YOU KNOW??? WHAT IF HE KNOWSS?!?!?' And then they're like 'chill out girl! Guys are blind when it comes to this stuff!' The look on Mari's face is priceless as well! Man she had a mini heart attack! Probably thought that she would die!
Marinette is wayy more honest with her feelings towards Chat...She never said she didn’t love him but instead said she loved someone more than she loves Chat! Honestly she’s kind of leading him on. It’s only Adrien who has issues with expressing feelings😬
Unicorn Lover (aka me) IS OVER REACTING! (even though that is true) I CANT BELIEVE IT! (even though I made it) WE ARE GOING TO DIE!!! (only when the time is right) AHHH (no)
I think ladybug does like chat(or cat if it pleases ya)but she’s attempting to block him out or has stronger feelings for Adrien.But if she knew about Adrien being chat she would love him.Same thing with Adrien and marinette he does have a Crush on her but his feelings for ladybug are stronger but if he knew he would love her.
I just watched your video on how Adrien is developing a crush on Marinette and I think that the show is definitely doing this intentionally. They're bringing them one step closer to the time when they both like each other in both forms and it's going to be really dramatic and I'm SO EXCITED Edit: You just gained another subscriber!
Hmm they don't realize their feelings for the alter egos, and Ladybug and Adrien are not in love with each other more like they put each other on a high pedestal that they don't really realize their feelings for each other's alter egos, and this is why Luka and Kagami are in the show so Thomas Astruc is basically testing their love. There is this song that Christina Vee sang I think it was for the Christmas special,and she sings,"She doesn't know that she loves him".
@@MiraculouslyLazy thx but I don't think the seat belt would be enough for me not to fall off, they say there is an episode in season three that would probably make the fandom cry and no one except for the team that working on the show know about it
In frozer when Adrien called her "just a friend" it sounded like he had trouble saying those words again,or in short terms forced lets say in the 2nd part of Origins Adrien can say it so easily and now he can't even sound like hes telling the truth..
Also about the "kitty" nickname, in French the translation "chaton" is a very common nickname between lovers or two people who are super affectionate with each other
I feel like when LB was holding on to Chat's arm was because she felt sorry for how she ditched him and tried to be nice I guess. (Also it was part of the plan) 😂
Also in Glaciator (I'm sorry I dunno how to spell it XDD) when Chat arrived at Marinette's balcony she did seem surprised at first and a little hesitant,but she let him stay. And she opened up to him about her love life (so did Chat) and yes,you would think that "That's what everyone does," but you have to have a lot of trust in the person if you were to tell them something like that! And she moved even closer to him and they both looked at each other (mY FaVoRiTE sCeNE aHHH-) and Chat took her to the place where he and Ladybug were supposed to meet and he prepared everything she looked amazed and she felt sorry for him when she turned around ,you could see her hurt in her face and she tried to say sorry through her actual self. And as you said,when Chat left her at her balcony once again,she said she saw him a bit differently. my otp 😫
Wahhhhh They will be a great couple 💕😍 and is it just me? Or she is really flirting with him? 😂 And know what? I always imagine that Ladybug will kiss Cat Noir every time she holds his face *shrieeekkkkssss😍😍💕💕🤐🤐*
Also in Horrificator when chat and ladybug are talking and he says I love it when u read my ,ind and then she says something else (I forgot)😂 and he goes “ oh wow u did it again “ she starts blushing and smiles
Ok so for everyone who’s confused for why people say “Chat Noir” not “Cat Noir” here’s why: So as we all know, MLB is set in Paris which is in France, and because Adrien/Cat Noir is masculine (a male) people say “Chat” because it means Cat in French that’s why. If Cat Noir was a female, or when lady bug and cat noir swapped roles, Lady Bug would’ve been known as Chatte Noir, because Chatte is a female cat in french. I personally prefer to say Cat Noir but it’s your choice on how you say it, hope this helps!
i think for the glaciator when cat noir visited marinette and talks about their heartbreaking, marinette felt sad for him cause she didnt show up. so i think mari just make up her mind and let cat noir do whatever he wants (like carrying her to the "Date"). i think she just dont want to make the same mistake in her 2nd life (mari's normal life).
I love how i can hear you smiling throughout this whole video, and you're inner fan girl is showing too XD Adorable lol, this videos was spot on amazing👏✨
She really cares for Chat Noir, and those feelings - esp in the later seasons- I think really develops into loving him as (questionably) more than just a partner!
I feel like in season 4 she's gonna lose all hope in adrein coz she thinks he likes kugami but really he just has a tiny crush on kagami thats all. And then she will start to love cat noir and they might get together or something.
Seeing LB blushing to chats kiss on the cheek was great😸 Gotta love Glaciator right?but I think you forgot about the scene of Chat on Maris balcony and them looking at each other for a few minutes
On one of the sing alongs for Miracoulas Ladybug, the song is saying “CatNiro, is in love, with our own Ladybug and always have been. Ladybug, doesn’t know that she loves him cus she only sees Adrian” so that is PROOF that she likes him
The thing is, I am starting to believe that Adrien is getting more comfortable with Marinette but I don’t think he is getting anywhere farther from “She’s just a friend.”
Yah that is true. Chat Noir means black cat, which is why in origins episodes part one Nooroo tells hawk moth that it is the earnings of the ladybug and the ring of the black cat. I am nerd who mesmerizes a lot of lines in episodes. Sorry. Not sorry
oo on that episode zombiezoo, there is another scene where ladybug says "you'll get your kiss kitty, just not like this" a few minutes after chat was kissed by the kissy zombie things
Honestly if mari Actually DID lOVE Adrian wouldn't she noticed that same cocky smile and aditude that chat has?? Also if Adrian loved ladybug he would Definitely know it's Mari bc of HER HAIR
I KNEW Ladybug likes Cat bc after the episode "Glaciator" she has been developing feelings for him and she dosen't call him "Cat Noir" anymore she calls him "MY KITTY!"😮😮😮
