You are a man with the tech! This is amazing how you make all that work. I've seen your end product , too. Your labor does produce a beautiful looking silver.
Keep it up sir! More impure silver shot means more silver slimes. Refining the slimes are some of my favorite videos!!………Although stock pot refining is also. Maybe I like seeing trash turn to treasure but I know how much of a pain those processes are for you. Keep it up sir!!!!!!
That cement silver “waste” accumulates faster than people can imagine. Especially when processing 10K gold. I actually save my cement copper and melt into bars also. I don’t refine it but might as well get a few hundred dollars for my impure copper waste.
Well the statement about the green electrolyte just answered the question I was just wondering in my head thank you sir as always gold standard of refining
Sr. I got to tell you how my first day of exploring went. Yesterday I went to the thrift store by my house. The worker inside said that they have a lady that used to work at a jewelry store come and test the gold they get. I came back when that lady was there so I could pick her brain. Turns out she was a YNSC that used to work at a squadron right next to mine. We were both in the Navy at the same time and now we both are doing the same thing here in Florida. It’s a small Navy. I thought you would get a kick out of that.
That’s a great story. I ran into my old CO in a jewelry store once. And I went to a ships reunion back in June last year. It was very uplifting to see people that I got to serve with. Forty years later.
That was just a trace, it only takes one gram of copper per thousand to turn it pale blue like that. The silver is still three nines, even though it’s got a little copper.
I have had that already when making electrolyte that it turned slightly blue while using older silver bars. Although it did turn clear after nitric was fully consumed. Bullion bars arent really as clean as one might think.
Thank you for making these videos Sr. Chief. Yesterday I watched the video where you explained how a silver quarter and buy a gallon and a half of gas. That is incredible. I never would’ve understood the value of metals if you weren’t have explained it that way. Thank you for sharing that knowledge. Can I trouble you with a question? I can’t find the video where at the end you called the gold company in Dallas and showed us how to sell the gold. What was the title of that video? Thank you so much. I ordered an electric gold tester to get me started. I too want to be able to spot a gold piece from ten paces. The tester will help me get qualified in gold recognition.
Something u gotta try on a side project fascinating make purple gold 81.5% gold to 19.5 % aluminum mixed once it hardens up and u have it in bar shape it turns purple
Given that my favourite part of a sreetips video is when the term "pure silver crystal" is said, I'd say this is my favorite sreetips video of all time 😃
judging from the silver cell anode basket filter recovery videos, there is definitely palladium present in the shot of the cemented out silver, but i'm really not sure where the palladium is coming from originally i guess the answer is probably just the jewelry and jeweler's scrap materials, but i wonder if it might be from the copper material instead
Karat gold, especially white gold, is a known carrier of platinum group metals. When I inquart gold, the PGMs will tend to follow the silver and end up in the anode filter slimes.
I had a small lab set up in my basement in 7th and 8th grade. This is a carry-over from those days. I think I got away from it when I went to high school and discovered parties and girls. I was a terrible student, graduated (by the skin of my teeth) second from last out of about 480 students. I got a D in the only chemistry class I ever took.
Hi, I tried to leave a comment on your latest video. But no can-do I was going to suggest that it’s time for you to do a new gold plated refining video, mixed things up a little.🎉 anyways, I enjoyed your latest video on the Silver cell and hope to see another video soon on anything lol you have a great weekend🎉
Dawn, I turned comments on. Somehow got turned off. Highly suspicious. Could you try to leave a comment under my latest to see if they are working now? Thank you!
I have a question Kevin. Other than for demonstration purpose of potential contamination, why use commercially produced silver? You did state in a video a little while back, that you have had the pure silver you produce, already been assayed as 99.999% pure consistently. The quantity you are using here to produce electrolyte is a small percentage of the yield you get from the silver cell, I'm just curious as the reason of spending resources buying something you already have.
Yes, same question. I thought you would use your existing silver crystals to make the electrolyte. I notice you and Mrs. Sreetips buy a lot of sterling silver. I would have thought you have plenty of silver crystals to use in your gold refining process. Therefore not needing to buy so much sterling. I will also compliment your thoroughness and attention to detail.
Fantastic!! I really enjoy your videos. I was wondering if you have ever tried refining gold plated china. I have some broken pieces of a set that supposedly have 24 Kt gold on them. Could I send you some and watch you work your magic?
I use a case (six, 2.5 liter bottle) every six to eight months, depending on what I’m working on. For the silver, I use it to refine gold. So I’m killing two birds with one stone.
I say it every time you post a silver video that these are by far my favourites. There something magical about the silver cell, the colours and the way the crystal forms always fascinates me. Thankyou again for sharing your work.
It seems logical that some copper nitrate in the electrolyte shouldn't matter much since operating the cell will add copper to the electrolyte over time anyway.
The electrolyte’s sole purpose is to provide a path for the silver ions that get dissolved in the anode basket to travel to the cathode, where they deposit as high purity silver
Silver shouldn’t have oils on it. Just keep sulfur bearing compounds away from it to prevent tarnishing. The silver that he dissolved should have been pristine.
The comments are turned off on the new video. What do you think would happen if you ran it in reverse? If you molded a bowl from the silver shot and stuck a chunk of silver in the basket. Do you think it would grow one big crystal?
Another great Master Class from Mr. Sreetips. Do you feel that you were taken advantage of from the silver supplier, or was the amount of copper within tolerance?
just curious. How much weight in silver shots do you produce when starting off with 968.9 grams? So far it's 30 ounces of silver? But what would your output be?
I’ll only get out in pure silver, what I put into the anode basket as impure silver shot, less impurities. For example, after about ten or twelve days, I’ll have added about 1.4 kilos on impure silver into the anode basket. When I harvest the pure silver crystal, I’ll get out 1.5 to 1.6 kilos of pure silver crystal. The extra silver comes from the 600g of silver in the electrolyte. No silver is being created out of thin air. I only get out what I put into the cell.
Does nitric dissolve copper or silver faster and part two of the question which requires more or less nitric to complete the process thanks as usual a treat to watch yours videos
Does the silver in the silver nitrate also plate out as crystals, or does the resulting blue silver nitrate solution still have 600gm of silver in it when it's finished processing the silver shot?
I like maples and eagles because their dimensions vs weight are published and they can be easily verified. These bars are all suspect in my book. That’s why I learned to refine the silver myself. It’s the only way to be sure.
Copper builds up in the electrolyte turning it blue. That’s because the impure silver I’m feeding into the anode basket is about 1% copper. Copper in the electrolyte hurts nothing if kept below 60g per liter concentration.
@17:20 I assume, that the bucket with the silver weighs about 100 kg (minus 20% because it is loose powder -> 80kg). So you never take it from the table (except when almost empty) ?
I have three (a fourth started) of those buckets full of cement silver. I tend to get way behind on my silver and it builds up on me. Each bucket weighs about thirty pounds.
When it gets full of silver, I’ll disassemble and harvest the pure silver. Then I’ll re-use the same electrolyte a second time, but add another 200g of silver to augment because the the electrolyte become depleted. I never use the electrolyte more than twice. It gets loaded with copper.
Thanks again for an informative and entertaining video sir! My question, if I may, is how much copper would it take to make that color change you had when dissolveing those bars? Do you think those bars were true three nine fine silver? Thanks kindly in advance, and keep these great videos coming please!
Hey Sreetips. Just curious, the cement silver you get from refining gold is usually about 99% pure already. Is it really worth it for you to spend all that time and effort to turn it into silver crystal? I know I would probably just sell the cement silver by the Kg as 98% or 99% pure silver. You probably want at least some silver crystal because it sells well and it looks a lot better, but wouldn't it be more profitable just to sell the cement silver in bulk?
If sold, the price of the cement silver is indeterminable. Please understand that I’m not trying to make a profit. I’m converting my paper dollars into gold and silver. Not for a big bump in price to make a profit. But rather to protect my savings from the money printers. When they print dollars it dilutes and destroys the value and purchasing power of the paper currency. Therefore, it makes no sense to accumulate dollars, that are declining in value. Makes more sense to store my savings in metals. Because they can’t print more gold and silver. For these reasons, I’m not selling any of my silver, unless I’m forced to sell it.
I bought those years ago. Back when silver was under twenty bucks. Plus, they aren’t expended. They’ll be converted to pure silver crystal - with NO COPPER.
The crystals are impossible to fake. Bars of brass can be plated with silver and it’s almost impossible to tell, without filing into the metal to reveal the scam.
Ummm, quick question. So if your using the silver shot from your cement silver in the electrode. Then where did the pure silver you made into the electrode go? Cause you put a lot in there. Was it a necessary compound needed in order to make everything else work? Or does it also form out into crystals in the end? So there's no silver left in the liquid once it's done?
Ok, the 600g of silver in the electrolyte will slowly become depleted of silver because it plates out on the cathode as the cell operates. After a few days, I’ll add more silver nitrate to augment the silver concentration in the electrolyte. However, most of the silver that deposits on the inside of the cathode (stainless bowl) comes from the impure silver that I feed into the anode filter basket. Tomorrow morning when I go out there, the impure silver in that anode basket will have been digested by the current flow from the power supply through the cell. The current flow dissolves the impure silver in the anode basket, the dissolved silver passes through the filter and travels through the silver nitrate electrolyte and deposits on the stainless bowl. Copper also dissolves and passes through the filter but it won’t begin to deposit with the silver until it reaches about 60g per liter concentration in the electrolyte. That’s why the electrolyte turns blue as the cell operates.
The copper dissolves and passes through the anode filter and accumulates in the electrolyte turning it blue. It won’t deposit with the silver as long as copper concentration is kept below 60g per liter.
Hi Sreetips, I have a question: In the silver cell, why do you have to melt the silver powder? wouldn't it be better to put it in the filter as cement powder? Thanks!
Sreetips! Would you consider refining some of the oufer and other brand "14k solid gold" jewelry to weed out fake or gold plated items? Could be a cool collaboration with some Amazon reviewers on RU-vid!
Yes, I’ve done electrolytic gold refining cell. But the gold is more nodular-looking. There’s a way to grow gold crystals that look like these silver crystals. But it’s an arduous process.
What is your recourse for the copper tainted AG? I do remember you commenting on a couple of the bars of silver looking odd when they were first starting to dissolve. I wonder if Pouring silver into a mold that had previously been used to make copper bars would have left enough copper residue in the mold to Contaminate the silver . Assuming there's an innocent explanation behind the contaminated silver!
Do you still operate both silver cells parallel to each other? If so, are you actually reducing your stock of cement silver or do you still produce more cement silver with your precious metal refining operations thann you can / want to refine each month? Also it would be interesting if you could quantify your silver yield in a gold refining video one day. Just to see how much silver is alloyed in a bunch of karat scrap you refine, since the silver in the gold alloys is a way to make some profit, too - you only pay for the gold content of the scrap, all the silver is kind of a bonus
I only have one running right now. I work at my hobby to get paid in metals. My profits are in gold and silver, not paper dollars. There’s silver in karat gold, but not that much. A hundred grams of 14k gold may contain about twenty grams of pure silver.
@@sreetips But aren't you producing a lot of extra cement silver due to the inquarting process (as opposed to just the silver contained in karat gold)? I don't know if this was exactly what OP meant above, but I'm also kind of curious about the rate at which you are recovering all that silver you add for inquarting. Do you have a "backlog" of cement silver or do you generally recover the silver at the same rate that you consume it for gold refining?
Random question (because I’m tired, my brain isn’t working, and I’m too lazy to test or research myself): Silver cement- can it be detected with a metal detector? What about gold after dropping from auric chloride with SMB?
Got a question for sreetips or anybody actually can you take a trimmed electrical contacts that it's got silver Indian and put them straight into nitric acid with distilled water?
I bought those from a guy about five years ago. I prefer my silver crystal over those bars because my silver is higher purity. They were contaminated with traces of copper. After I run them through my cell then the silver will be free of copper. Plus, I did it to demonstrate that pure silver bars can be used to make electrolyte for the silver cell if you don’t have access to pure silver crystal.
I did dissolve the silver on nitric. Then I recovered it and run it through my silver cell. I’m producing pure silver for my savings account. I’m not going to sell this silver unless I have to. The value of impure silver is questionable. But it’s easy to determine the value of pure silver.
Gold and silver are real money, since biblical times and before. They require no third party validation like fiat does, they stand on their own. They are not investments. Although people try to make them investments. I’m not in precious metals for a big bump in price. I hold them to protect my savings from the money printers. If I need some paper to pay bills then I can always sell a little of my metals.
So I’m a little confused. You take pure silver and dissolve it to make your electrolyte in order to pull pure silver from your un-pure Is this so you can later pull the trace gold and Palladium from the slime that’s left in your cathode?
I made this video in response to those who asked what can be used to make electrolyte if you don’t have pure silver crystal. The sole purpose of the electrolyte is to allow a flow path for the electric current through the cell. And to facilitate the transfer of silver ions from the anode to the cathode.
So am I understanding this right? The electrolyte you create from the "pure" silver bars is just to kind of jumpstart the process of purifying the copper-contaminated cement silver you recovered from the gold-refining process? If so, question: the amount of material contained in that little basket definitely does not look like the same amount of silver I've seen you harvest in other videos. Is that because you are constantly adding a little bit more cement silver to the basket as the cement silver is converted to pure silver crystal on the sides of the bowl so over time it adds up? What about the silver from the pure silver bars you used to create the electrolyte? Is that ever recovered?
The sole purpose of the electrolyte is to provide a means for the dissolved silver to travel from the anode basket to the cathode where it deposits (on the cathode) as pure elemental silver. Some of the silver from the electrolyte gets deposited on the cathode as well, causing the electrolyte to become depleted of silver as the cell operates. That’s why I periodically add more silver nitrate. To both increase the physical level of the electrolyte and to replenish the silver concentration in the electrolyte.
Hello sreetips, I have a question if that’s okay. Got over 100lbs of xray film and been doing some test runs. At the stage where you add lye it turns black and add sugar and it stays black. Got it sitting over night to see what settles to the bottom of the beaker. Got any suggestions.
I did that experiment once about five or six years ago. Some X-ray film is thermal activated and contains no silver. I don’t know how to tell. I relied on the seller to make sure it had silver.
@@sreetips ok, that being said, during the rinse it looked just like silver chlorite so guess I’ll look up what thermal activated residual looks like after being exposed to bleach. As always thanks for the info.
@@sreetips holy cow!! That’s all from your waste collection? You must have been collecting that stuff for a long time. I’m in envy right now :) Can I have some lol
Quick question about your silver recovery - what would happen if you used sodium chloride in the electrolyte instead of silver nitrate? Would ALL of the base metals crystallize out, instead of just the silver?
In the cell we have silver as a nitrate. Adding any chloride to the nitrate will instantly convert the silver nitrate to silver chloride. So we want to keep sodium chloride (table salt) far away from our silver cell.
@@sreetips No, I mean using salt water *instead of* silver nitrate solution, not as well as. Like, in normal electrolysis, with tin crystals, for example, they just use tin electrodes and saltwater electrolyte. Tin grows on one end and dissolves off the other (I can never remember which way around they go). Or am I misunderstanding what we're trying to do here?
No, it won’t work. We want to keep table far away from our pure silver. My guess is that if tried, we’d end up with a salty toxic soup of silver chloride.
@@sreetips I tried to send you a picture, but comments won’t let me. I might try and send you the link to Amazon so you can see what I am referring to.
I looked them up, they look right to me. I buy mine at ace hardware. They went from $7.99 to $14.99 - why? Have they become more valuable? Or more scarce? No, it’s because the value of the money used to purchase them has declined by that much. This is a more accurate indicator of the real rate of inflation. Inflation is an expansion of the money supply (they print money out of thin air with nothing to back its value, and everything appears to go up in price because it takes much more of it to buy the same amount of stuff). Rising prices is the result of inflation (money printing) not its cause. And it’s just getting started.
Have you ever considered attempting to extract rhodium from used catalytic converters? It's about the only place you'll find it, and it's worth about twice as much as gold by weight. Might be worth experimenting. It'd be an interesting challenge in any case, cuz aqua regia doesn't dissolve rhodium. I believe you have to use boiling, concentrated sulfuric acid, so do be careful. It also has about twice the melting point of gold, so gods know how you're going to deal with that.
