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Sim Racing 101 : Shifting - Rev Match it! (Ep14) 

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The Papy sims are the only ones I can think of where I've lost a gear, btw. Even then it always seemed somewhat random.
Yea, I HnT and use paddles. Why? Because I don't have the space for a stand alone shifter and I'd probably get a sequential anyways. It's easier with a gated shifter anyways, more natural.
Also, if you spike the revs every last time you shift, fk off. Man that crap pisses me off.

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@OdrikT800
@OdrikT800 8 лет назад
one day i woke up and suddenly i could heel and toe. idk why.
@genarodeleon858
@genarodeleon858 3 года назад
This was me but with drifting
@cheezey3295
@cheezey3295 3 года назад
@@genarodeleon858 something just clicks with drifting
@Zeedoctour
@Zeedoctour 8 лет назад
If you're trying to learn Heel'n'Toe downshifting, start (not actually racing) by practicing the rev matching side of things. Drive in a straight line and slow down by downshifting through the gear box, blipping the throttle of course ... you're not after speed you just want to get used to matching revs as you drop down through the gear box. Don't even think about the brakes yet, that's why you pick a straightaway where you have a lot of room to slow down. Once you get that part down ... you can start using the "slanted right foot" with toes/ball of your right foot on the brake, and the heel end of your right foot covering the gas pedal. Depending on the size of your foot, a long foot (size 15 scale of things) you'll use more the side than the heel, but a size 8 or 9 might use more heel. Anyone can do it with practice, Matt's video pedal cam view is very instructive. Now, left foot braking, that takes ENORMOUS amounts of practice because most people have almost zero sensitivity for control in their left foot. It's best to gain the first degrees of left foot sensitivity (control) by driving an automatic so you can not have to worry about the clutch. Once you can brake 100% with your left foot in an automatic shift (no clutch) mode and do it well, then you are ready to learn the drivers foot-well fandango where you left foot brake, right foot brake, left foot clutch, heel'n'toe downshift ... or brake and gas together for balance not slowing down, all as the situation demands. THEN you'll be a race car driver. :D
@willthethrill2078
@willthethrill2078 5 лет назад
BIG FACTS
@dsrevo79
@dsrevo79 5 лет назад
from driving forklift at work I lwsrn left foot braking lol
@TheDive25
@TheDive25 6 лет назад
Sim racing newbie here. Just want to say this was the most helpful video I've found on shifting and gear boxes I've found on RU-vid. Thanks for all the help. New sub!
@TacticalCardboard
@TacticalCardboard 11 лет назад
Flatshifting (keeping it pinned while shifting) a traditional gear box (such as the MX5) is a real technique that is valid and does work in the real world. BUT, on the flip side, it's not something you would do every shift because you will turn the box to dust sooner rather than later. There was an article on the iR forums where one of the drivers mentioned they flatshifted to win the race at Sebring a year back actually. Funnily enough, both guys were iRacers. lol
@malteheuer801
@malteheuer801 6 лет назад
There is actually another type of sequential gearbox (ignition cut ) it just cuts away the ignition between the gear changes instead of cutting away the throttle, because the ignition cutting takes Leser time to engage and disengage the engine power, as soon as you changed your gear the combustion caber runs to rich on fuel because the the ignition system is cut away but not the injection so in the time of changing a gear the is no ignition spark but there is fuel injection, that causes the flames on some cars during up and downshifts (all in all a really nice Video I’m glad to see some one having a clue what’s going on under the chair you sitting on :)
@malteheuer801
@malteheuer801 6 лет назад
Sorry for my grammar ( I’m from Germany)
@GHz2Gaming
@GHz2Gaming 9 лет назад
Thanks empty box this really helped me out and i can rev match heel and toe now!
@Cory989
@Cory989 10 лет назад
Im glad someone finally addressed this. I wish iRacing would atleast have the car stall if you didn't hold the clutch or spun out. Glad i subbed.
@TomBoi
@TomBoi 5 лет назад
i love reading old comments like these because iRacing just implemented it in 2019 Season 2 patch, making this comment completely irrelevant.
@Daz555Daz
@Daz555Daz 4 года назад
@@TomBoi indeed. But auto clutch works for those that still need it which is great.
@kim15742
@kim15742 8 лет назад
Oh, a bicycle! Finally somethinhg I can relate to
@TacticalCardboard
@TacticalCardboard 11 лет назад
I usually show the foot cams for HnT cars, if you don't see one it's probably LFB with blip on downshifts as I spend most of my sim racing time driving GT2 / GT1 cars which don't have autoblipping. Unless of course I'm driving an open wheel car, then you will know by the clicking of my paddles 15x in each brake zone. Mash paddle to get a gear, mash paddle to get a gear.
@TacticalCardboard
@TacticalCardboard 11 лет назад
That applies to sequentials and dogboxes (one and the same for our uses in a sim). Like I said, you are slamming it into gear, speed is of the essence. Even still it's quite common to see NASCAR drivers HnT with clutch despite it being "bad", largely due to the amount of power and lack of grip relative to weight. I bet you would see more drivers driving a NASCAR style car as a standard H pattern manual than a sequential because of that. The goal is to not overcomplicate things.
@afthefragile
@afthefragile 11 лет назад
And I heel-and-toe when downshifting when driving around fast in my car all the time. It's tricky to match the revs to get perfectly smooth changes and it's much harder at low and very high rpms but it's super fun once you get used to it!
@Joshuatheflarefox
@Joshuatheflarefox 10 лет назад
i recently changed my shift aid settings to Auto Clutch on my wingman and OMG i feel i can accelerate faster. This is on Iracing.XP ROAD HERE I COME
@wolfman92398
@wolfman92398 11 лет назад
In my opinion, i think nascar sticks with h-pad because they do so little shifting compared to other series. You brought up a great point with v8 supercars. That is part of the reason why i think marcos ambrose has had more success that montoya in nascar.
@TacticalCardboard
@TacticalCardboard 11 лет назад
I can honestly say in all my time with rFactor I've literally never lost a gear. Ever. I've blown engines, but never lost a gear.
@MathieuBouvier
@MathieuBouvier 11 лет назад
First track is Charade, 70's version if I'm not mistaken. Awesome track to have fun - tons of mods for any sim out there.
@calebwright2849
@calebwright2849 2 года назад
Yeah most of these new cars in the last 15 years where having a slap shifter or even paddle shifters on the sport trims of most cars is standard even on a camry lol, but it's just a standard TC auto with some electronic gizmo that allows you to put it in manual mode. Now there not all bad, my awd g35 for example has 5at with rev matching and it will hold gears at high rpm's unlike my old pos 2000 eclipse gt. But generally your slower using the manual mode on trannys like this when it comes to all out acceleration and shift times BUT the computer can be goofy downshifting. I really like being able to control when it downshifts but these TC auto's are nothing like a DLC or a true sequential transmission. A dlc is really the ultimate tranny for speed but there is nothing like rowing through gears and using a clutch. Especially once you master it, it is very rewarding once you nail it. I got in to sim racing for it to transfer over to real life as much as possible. I'm not delusional, I know this 100% does not transfer but if you have the correct set up you can 100% improve real life. If anything I find some things easier in real life because I can feel the revs and the g forces, you just have a lot more info coming in where as in a sim you really have to rely on visuals and feel from the wheel. I'm just about to install 4 bass shakers next week and im very excited for that. Just to feel the shifts would help a ton. Hopefully by the end of the year I can get a dof reality p3 or p6. For the money they are absolutely incredible. If you can settle for a seat mover like NLR's V3 motion platform, you could get the m2 starting at $750!! Or the heavier duty one for around a grand. They have a pro model with tougher motors for commercial use or whatever and then they have a standard version. You can get there 2dof for around 1500 and upgrade to the 3 and 6 dof versions. Lol honestly I'm almost having as much fun planning and building my rig than actually using it. I'm 26 and I am very late to the game. I had a wheel growing up but it was a joke. I didn't realize these ffb wheels were even around and it sounds like the logitech has been around since the 2000's. I wish I would of discovered this back then but oh well. My set up so far though is a t300rs that came with a conquer cockpit, T-LCM pedals, fanatec 1.5sq shifter, drivehub adapter for ps4. Im using an old 43in 1080p vizio for my display and also have PSVR. The cockpit was not working so I built a hybrid using the conquer seat and an old printer stand for the wheel stand on a plywood base lol. It's not pretty but solid and its a temporary rig although it's good enough to be a permanent rig but now I see where I can improve.
@fjbh1018
@fjbh1018 7 лет назад
If anyone else watches this video 4 years after it was published, what car mod is this and do links to it still exist?
@pellergin
@pellergin 6 лет назад
In the mid 80s the number one cause for race retirement in F1, was mis-shifting, lol. Clutchless manual for the win.
@juancete0107
@juancete0107 4 года назад
After watching Jimmy Broadbent race in rallies in Dirt, i started to automatically heel toe.
@Joshuatheflarefox
@Joshuatheflarefox 10 лет назад
I have tried driving Iracing with no shift assistance and its pretty fun. But watching your foot work with only two pedals gives me an idea of how I am suppost to dowwshift cause I find myself jumping up and down when downshifting.XDD
@ipo7596
@ipo7596 3 года назад
A lot of japanese time attack cars I watch have sequentials but still use clutch and some even heeltoe. Im not sure though if its just to eliminate action and time with hpatterns but retain the manual use of clutch and blipping.
@RoscoePablo
@RoscoePablo 9 лет назад
You are the fuckin BEST mate hands down this video alone dropped like 3 to 4 seconds off my times
@ryang1591
@ryang1591 11 лет назад
About your comment on NASCAR and the h-pattern I'm fairly certain nationwide and sprint cup ran sequential gb's at the road courses this year not sure about the trucks though
@Hewatza
@Hewatza 2 года назад
Sorry to bother you literally 9 years later lmao. But I have a question. I've learned that I should double clutch when downshifting. Essentially "clutch down, shift to neutral, clutch up, blip, clutch down, shift into gear, clutch up." But this video shows blipping while the clutch is still down. Is there any real difference? Is there a benefit to the extra effort of double clutching or am I just expending extra time and energy into my downshifts?
@TripSpeedGT
@TripSpeedGT 11 лет назад
Ended up deciding on the ClubSport Pedals... not sure when they'll get here, but I'll resume my quest to blip then.
@parkourninja21
@parkourninja21 9 лет назад
I would've loved to see the inputs (like, level of braking or acceleration) alongside your foot cam. Sweet stuff :) I'm new to racing sims (err, well, anything outside of GT) and I don't recognize this sim! rFactor? Love to see your skill on Clermont Ferrand!
@TacticalCardboard
@TacticalCardboard 9 лет назад
Yes, it's all rFactor in this video.
@opmike343
@opmike343 11 лет назад
Nominally, if we break down the sequence into discrete steps its typically clutch-in then apply throttle to raise up the RPM. In practice, there's a significant amount of overlap here. Racing sims tend to let you get away with a lot more than in a real car. In sims, my motions tend to be simultaneous. In my real car, I have to lead with the clutch a bit more if I want the shifter to actually move out of gear when I want it to. You already have the theory down, use what works for you.
@GrahamBartle
@GrahamBartle 11 лет назад
Oh I get that but I'm wondering if his pedals provide enough realism to allow the skills to transfer directly to your average car.
@zmiller93
@zmiller93 9 лет назад
Nascar uses helix cut gears which allow for the "slamming into gear". They don't even use the clutch now too. Just a little factoid.
@twistedslimjim7757
@twistedslimjim7757 8 лет назад
zmiller93 are u sure? If so most production cars us helix cut gears there's nothing special about them other than a smoother sound due to gradual constant contact...... Not durable for gear slamming..... And also any and every production car can be shifted without use of the clutch.... Ever had a clutch cable fail? It's not recommended on production cars because of the synchromesh and helix cut.
@RoccoHorvath
@RoccoHorvath 10 лет назад
Question, when driving a car with a sequential gearbox that does not have throttle cut upshifts but you don't lift the gas, the revs go up then won't it "pop the clutch" each time you upshift giving to a better jump into the next gear? I just feel like it would be faster. Would like to hear other peoples thoughts.
@TacticalCardboard
@TacticalCardboard 10 лет назад
So keeping the foot flat to the floor? You could do that in theory, but it'd just place extra stress on the driveline and yield zero lap time advantage - if the wheels are spinning, you are going slow.
@ozilevin200
@ozilevin200 11 лет назад
I have to ask. Do you think it's okay to downshift multiple gears with one move? For example: When I raced in iRacing at summit with the mx5 once, there is the slow left corner taken with 2nd, while you're aproaching it with 4th. So instead of going through the gears one at a time, I go from 4th to 2nd in one move, but after I slow down the car enough to not over-rev it. All that in a heel and toe of course. So what do you think, is it okay, do you stress the gear box like that?
@WilliamLevesqueineX
@WilliamLevesqueineX 11 лет назад
No, they run H-Pattern. Most drivers though left foot brake and just blip with their right foot. They don't have to use the clutch with the transmission type (dogbox) they have.
@LesPaulBJJ
@LesPaulBJJ 10 лет назад
So with regards to V8 Supercars, in which all but 2 drivers (Greg Murphy and Fabian Coulthard I believe) use the clutch on downshifts, why is that? Does it just extend the life of the transmission?
@TacticalCardboard
@TacticalCardboard 10 лет назад
Probably simply habit more than anything else. If you've been driving like that for a while, it's worked, it's gotten you to a high level, why try and alter that style?
@LesPaulBJJ
@LesPaulBJJ 10 лет назад
Empty Box That makes sense, only Greg Murphy's been driving V8 Supercars since before they had straight-cut transmissions, so he must've had to alter it TO the LFB style at some point.
@mattynigma
@mattynigma 8 лет назад
Learning to heel-toe in real life was a huge boon both in simracing and in everyday driving. The only problem is when my cat and/or dog get in my lap.
@F-Man
@F-Man 10 лет назад
How do you set it up to not auto-clutch for you (as well as for it to not allow pre-selection [cheating]) in iRacing? I have a G27 and I set it for no shifting assist, but the clutch still cuts in automatically at low speeds and it's annoying!
@TacticalCardboard
@TacticalCardboard 10 лет назад
The clutch will only cut in when you would have stalled the car if you have auto clutch disabled.
@FezzantPlucka
@FezzantPlucka 9 лет назад
Matt, have you ever tried the Grinding Tranny Plugin for rFactor? If so, what did you think about it?
@FezzantPlucka
@FezzantPlucka 9 лет назад
Also, some times when I blip the rev light comes on. Is that wrong? Tx.
@n8tehgr8est
@n8tehgr8est 9 лет назад
+FezzantPlucka if the rev light is coming on, it's saying you've blipped to the shift point. You're probably blipping a little too much, since the point is to get the RPMs to where they're be at the next gear
@FezzantPlucka
@FezzantPlucka 9 лет назад
n8tehgr8 Thanks for the answer.
@cajiky
@cajiky 10 лет назад
Im so sorry for my troubles but im having a seriously hard time understanding breaking. Ive been 100% locking breaks and it seems to stop quicker that if im not locking the breaks. very confused
@TacticalCardboard
@TacticalCardboard 10 лет назад
You do stop quicker without locking the brakes. When you lock up the wheel, they say you only get about 70% braking performance rather than 100%. So don't lock up!
@WilsonCalabresi
@WilsonCalabresi 10 лет назад
Perhaps you fell like that cause of tires sound like lockup (maybe you are braking just right), but lockup scream is very loud and little different in RACE07, GT2, evolution, Asseto but iRacing (iRacing has a more like kart sound of rubber scratching the track), yet you can use your replay to get the right felling and use it accordingly, do it hard, a "good breaking" and see the replay, lock it up and see teh replay again so you can start to get the right felling.
@cajiky
@cajiky 10 лет назад
OK THANKS A TON GUYS!
@DoesNotGiveAF
@DoesNotGiveAF 2 года назад
I had to drive a car without a clutch once, master cylinder pooped out on a car coming back from a dealer auction, it was a challenge being forced to learn how to perfectly match rpm up and down gears.. i made it 20 or so thankfully mostly highway miles without completely destroying the gearbox so i guess i did okay
@deadrisingat
@deadrisingat 11 лет назад
Empty, what is the name of the track you are driving with the Flat 6?
@katanamd
@katanamd 9 лет назад
As I move off the MX-5 I am trying to learn how to "properly" drive. I currently have the DrivingForceGT with only two pedals. Would you recommend learning how to heel and toe anyway, or is it better to start of just left foot braking and then learning heel ant toe after rev matching with two feet? Thank you for all the great videos!
@TacticalCardboard
@TacticalCardboard 9 лет назад
When I had my DFGT, I never bothered with heel toeing, as there was obviously no clutch pedal. I would LFB because well, 2 feet, two pedals, makes sense. I never heel and toed with those pedals, though I would still blip when required (see the sequential part of this video - that is how I drove footwork wise, LFB + blip on downshift, no clutch) Once I switched pedals, I then learned how to HnT and RFB. I personally would say I found RFB easy to pick up on, but by the time I had started RFB I had driven cars on the street (where I always RFB) and had a good bit of sim racing under my belt. HnT is somewhat tricky to learn, but you cant really learn it and get the timing without a clutch pedal.
@TheIndySnake
@TheIndySnake 11 лет назад
Hey Empty Box, great video. I got a quick question about shifting. I race a lot in leagues for rFactor and I've noticed that the mod I've driving is a sequential with throttle cut... but I've noticed that if I still blip while braking it still has an effect even if the car is supposed to blip for me? I'm pretty sure this isn't a placebo effect as when I try to brake very late I either spin out of the car due to how fast I'm shifting down or the car just doesn't slow down enough. Can you offer an explanation to this? Thanks
@TacticalCardboard
@TacticalCardboard 11 лет назад
Blipping "harder" or "longer" than the electronic autoblip can also have the effect of altering the brake bias more or less. If the car is RWD, applying some power through the rear wheels means the rear end can't slow as fast as the car fights itself. Usually helps to stabilize the car.
@windyman56
@windyman56 9 лет назад
A buddy of mine races the NASCAR K&N Pro Series, and actually won the Watkins Glen and VIR races last year. Thing is, judging by his footcam, he wasn't using the clutch. I noticed a similar technique from AJ Allmendinger's footcam, where the clutch just wasn't used. I know on iRacing in an H pattern car you can up shift by just lifting off the throttle, and downshifting by simply blipping the throttle, but in real life, especially on a budget K&N team, why would the clutch just be sitting doing sweet FA?
@TacticalCardboard
@TacticalCardboard 9 лет назад
Depends on the transmission, seems most stock cars now use dog boxes which basically means for the purposes of this video they are the same as sequential only with h pattern gear selection. You'll still see a mix though, when making this video I found one of Kasey Kahne clutching on upshifts but not downshifts, which I found quite odd. Some guys HnT, some don't, within stock cars it seems like more of a mix than other series where LFB has become the thing and RFB is more of a rarity. I'd imagine a guy like AJ with an open wheel background is naturally prone to LFB and has been for some time, so wouldn't surprise me.
@bohunt9596
@bohunt9596 10 лет назад
Is there ANY cars on iRacing that require a clutch to shift? I very rarely touch my clutch at all on any of the cars I drive, which is most of them in the service, and I don't seem to lose much time. The only cars that I've ever been stuck out of gear was the Miata and one time an SRF (still finished 4th on lead lap during week 13 lol). For this reason I wonder why I should bother learning how to heel/toe, besides it being the "right" way to do it.
@TacticalCardboard
@TacticalCardboard 10 лет назад
No, they never require you to use the clutch in iRacing for some reason. But, it is the right way to do things, it's more fun and as you mentioned - it's more consistent.
@bohunt9596
@bohunt9596 10 лет назад
Thanks!
@icanhasinternets
@icanhasinternets 10 лет назад
Thanks for the video. I have a question about sequentials, specifically the CTS-V in Iracing. I think it has throttle cut upshifts but no auto blip downshifts. Is it pretty much standard practice to drive with left foot always on brake and right for throttle to blip downshifts? Feels completely counter intuitive to me but I've been pretty much exclusively using H shift race cars (like GT Legends/Power and Glory) for years now.
@TacticalCardboard
@TacticalCardboard 10 лет назад
You can do whatever you want however you want. I prefer LFB (left foot braking) when I can for a couple of reasons (none of them speed) but there is nothing wrong with RFB even if the car allows you to LFB. Some people prefer to use their right, some their left, some both. (something I do when Heel and Toeing as you could see in the video, it's totally illogical but it's natural and it works for me )
@katsuramoneh
@katsuramoneh 3 года назад
i just started iRacing, is it better to learn this now (along with everything else like driving racing line, braking, and throttle app) or should i take it as progression once I'm a bit more settled with other basic stuff? or do you think might as well try to learn all of these altogether?
@jkabee
@jkabee 11 лет назад
Thanks EB. I was leaning that way. Glad you made it easier.
@CANiHAVEaCHIP1
@CANiHAVEaCHIP1 8 лет назад
When running H-Pattern cars in R3E, I keep tearing the gearbox to bits on downshifts, and I'm not sure why. I don't feel like i'm doing anything wrong in terms of HnT, yet after 15 minutes or so, shifting is nigh impossible.
@AgentJot23
@AgentJot23 7 лет назад
Same happens for me
@jimlakey8366
@jimlakey8366 6 лет назад
H patterns are aka direct select. Try this. If you are in 5th and you need to be in 2nd to exit a corner, shift from 5th to 2nd. One move, not 3.
@diegomoralescastillo132
@diegomoralescastillo132 7 лет назад
When do you blip the throttle on sequential transmissions w/o autoblip, at the same time you press the downshift paddle?
@medln5357
@medln5357 7 лет назад
i only tought that heel toe was therefore for preventing to lock up the rear tires
@TacticalCardboard
@TacticalCardboard 7 лет назад
That's only part of it.
@getthebunny2279
@getthebunny2279 9 лет назад
i play project cars with no assists and everything turned off exept abs and use the manual clutch too but with some cars even when im using manual cluch i can shift without using the clutch. is that normal ? for example the group a cars like the sierra.
@TacticalCardboard
@TacticalCardboard 9 лет назад
***** Depends on the car, depends on the transmission. I know from experience some cars over in that game you pretty much need to use the clutch and some others have a very wide zone where you can do it clutchless. It's normal and realistic - it is possible to upshift even a standard manual without a clutch, if you do it right.
@getthebunny2279
@getthebunny2279 9 лет назад
oke thx :)
@Mikus987654321
@Mikus987654321 11 лет назад
Do you have any intention to make a sim racing 101 episode on X Motor Racing?
@mmtonkikh
@mmtonkikh 11 лет назад
What track and Sim are you racing here in this video?
@CobraAce04
@CobraAce04 11 лет назад
he should have said "harder, better, faster sronger"
@BollocksUtwat
@BollocksUtwat 10 лет назад
So I have a DFGT which I know you have experience with. So far I've actually been doing alright practicing in Assetto Corsa with auto-clutch but no auto-blip. However I notice its a real pain in the butt to keep my brake pressure consistent. Did you learn to Heel n Toe with the default pedals or did you wait til you had a better set? What if anything did you do while you were locked to the DFGT pedals to get better? So far to avoid locking the brakes up I'm having to brake way earlier because I can't really threshold brake.
@TacticalCardboard
@TacticalCardboard 10 лет назад
I didn't heel and toe until I upgraded to the Clubsports. With only two pedals it felt pretty pointless to right foot brake ever. Practice goes a long way really, that's about all you can do outside of getting better pedals. I'd suggest you look at the Fanatec CSR Elites if you do. Eventually you'll start hitting the same travel on the brake pedal lap after lap and gaining consistency, but it's harder to be consistent on those pedals that a nicer set.
@BollocksUtwat
@BollocksUtwat 10 лет назад
Empty Box Can you cut through the Fanatec marketing babble to explain to me what the Clubsport pedals do that the Elites don't? I'm probably several months at least away from considering the upgrade so at this point its curiosity more than anything.
@TacticalCardboard
@TacticalCardboard 10 лет назад
BollocksUtwat Pretty much nothing, Clubsports are just more "tunable", but otherwise pretty much functionally the same to the point I would go with CSR-E pedals unless you are having enough fun with it that the price premium for the CSPs isn't much an issue.
@TacticalCardboard
@TacticalCardboard 11 лет назад
Correct, though you will still see some guys using the clutch from time to time.
@osfponikhths
@osfponikhths 10 лет назад
i got a used g25, i never plress the clutch enough on down shifting (and when trying to heel and toe, well i never press the brake enough, so i never manage to do a corner) should i just start with basic braking and downshifting, getting htat correct and then start heel and toe
@grgbulldog99
@grgbulldog99 11 лет назад
Autumn ring! Love that track.
@TheHighDanger
@TheHighDanger 11 лет назад
I have yet to find a racing sim that satisfies me completely in terms of Body and mechanical damage Visuals Handling and behavior of the car. Richard Burns Rally and iRacing are my favorites but have so much that could be improved :c
@Spartan168
@Spartan168 11 лет назад
what pedals do you use?
@BlackChrys
@BlackChrys 11 лет назад
Thanks for this vid EB, really helped me make sense of how to shift properly :]
@johncarl5505
@johncarl5505 8 лет назад
Do I have to blip the throttle everytime I down-shift.
@TacticalCardboard
@TacticalCardboard 8 лет назад
+john carl Depends on the gearbox, depends on the speed.
@finalout9305
@finalout9305 8 лет назад
+Empty Box Depends on the game as well.Screw up the blip in some games and you're going to get punished for it.
@mattynigma
@mattynigma 8 лет назад
+john carl The closer you are to idle, the less you need to change engine speed The closer you are to full throttle, the bigger the difference in RPMs you need. So at near idle, you can just cycle backwards, even in a real car.
@julianwagg1866
@julianwagg1866 8 лет назад
When i HnT in iracing every time i blip the throttle i get no brakes
@madmarty7103
@madmarty7103 10 лет назад
I'm getting there with heel and toe but left foot braking still is f*cking difficult. With my left foot I'm as sensitive as I would be if I would brake with my butt.
@NickG40
@NickG40 10 лет назад
'Dat Autumn Ring.
@formulafreak2
@formulafreak2 11 лет назад
this is difficult part for me cause i only have 2 pedals no clutch
@RichieW
@RichieW 11 лет назад
Took me a really long time to get this right, and still I mess it up sometimes.
@bigballstouchem1560
@bigballstouchem1560 9 лет назад
do u race in the real world too Empty Box??
@bennyroberts1680
@bennyroberts1680 8 лет назад
What car & track? (Also which sim is this?)
@bennyroberts1680
@bennyroberts1680 8 лет назад
By this is mean the first car/tack combo in shown in the background
@TacticalCardboard
@TacticalCardboard 8 лет назад
Alfa Tipo 33 I believe. CSGT WSC 1970 mod for rFactor. Track is Charade 1970, sim is rFactor.
@JavierUKWithCat
@JavierUKWithCat 9 лет назад
no clutch pedal :(
@Protonkpax
@Protonkpax 11 лет назад
EmptyBox you say you can't beat electronics when it comes to using gears, but you haven't see me drive lol good video I always learn something more and that's the point of your videos to inform us sim noobs, a job well done, keep bringing us great content as I for one am happy to learn as much as I can.
@TacticalCardboard
@TacticalCardboard 11 лет назад
All three are rFactor.
@wdowa94
@wdowa94 3 года назад
GooD
@jaegerbh
@jaegerbh 5 лет назад
Crunching the gears in Assetto Corsa will destroy the gearbox in a short time.
@dalebarany4645
@dalebarany4645 11 лет назад
i have strait cut gears so i dont need the clutch
@TacticalCardboard
@TacticalCardboard 11 лет назад
csshhhhewwwwwwrnrnrnrnrnrnnrnrnr.
@Ty-yr3gf
@Ty-yr3gf 3 года назад
Thanks for the vid but I wanted you to show more shifting while explaining what your doing, your way past 101 with a lot of the things your talking about.
@CobraAce04
@CobraAce04 11 лет назад
you missed a Daft Punk joke at 14:49 :)
@wcrfish7233
@wcrfish7233 6 лет назад
Nice socks
@carlzimmerman8700
@carlzimmerman8700 6 лет назад
I truly enjoy using the clutch and H shifter in iRacing but it appears to me to only be a disadvantage while actually racing. Watching replays in the MX5 series it appears everyone is using paddles with auto/clutch. Either that or everybody in rookies are gods when it comes to shifting.
@TacticalCardboard
@TacticalCardboard 6 лет назад
Auto clutch is slowest. What some people are doing is "button clutching", which is binding the clutch to a button. In theory it's fastest, in actuality it doesn't matter much.
@TacticalCardboard
@TacticalCardboard 11 лет назад
Clubsport v2s.
@shawqialattar1794
@shawqialattar1794 2 года назад
I came here in 2022😊
@MegaMymusiclist
@MegaMymusiclist 4 года назад
Wats goin on gayz
@daboiracing3848
@daboiracing3848 11 лет назад
Nr2003 you can lose a gear
@jackjon7763
@jackjon7763 8 лет назад
I drive automatic in real life and I use heel toe. I don't use my left leg at all. My friend taught me to drive a clutch and it was weird learning to use my left leg. But when I get my rig and it set up I'll probably be using both feel to brake. Just depends on what track.
@AHHF005
@AHHF005 8 лет назад
Do you drive and automatic or manual?
@TacticalCardboard
@TacticalCardboard 8 лет назад
Manual, because who the fudge uses automatic?
@amdenis
@amdenis 5 лет назад
I know what you mean by people doing things without regard to it being appropriate or safe in reality. For example, don't you just hate when people drive motorcycles in sneakers, or do sim racing in socks?
@RedSliceGaming34
@RedSliceGaming34 8 лет назад
Left Foot braking? eww
@brockbain8656
@brockbain8656 8 лет назад
^someone doesn't understand weight trasnsfer, or boost preservation
@AHHF005
@AHHF005 8 лет назад
Are you serious. It's a video game.
@TacticalCardboard
@TacticalCardboard 8 лет назад
And all of this applies to a real car, so...
@rfruss
@rfruss 6 лет назад
This also applies to large commercial vehicles with non-synchronized transmissions. You have to match the rpm from the engine to the trans to make a shift up or down.
@Fertro
@Fertro 10 лет назад
When I started watching this series, I thought I knew a decent amount about driving... Ohhh was I wrong.
@DiViNiTY1337
@DiViNiTY1337 9 лет назад
"Oh yeah, you also get a really cool sound with a properly rev-matched downshift. Yeah. That's reason enough to use this technique, and master it." Perfect, so true. Also, what pedals are those? They look really comfortable to use barefoot when you only have socks.
@TacticalCardboard
@TacticalCardboard 9 лет назад
DiViNiTY1337 Fanatec Clubsports with some DSD pedal faces.
@TacticalCardboard
@TacticalCardboard 11 лет назад
If you are talking about the "manumatic" type boxes those are entirely different from a racing sequential, and more or less an automatic that allows manual gear selection.
@CaffeinatedPixels_
@CaffeinatedPixels_ 9 лет назад
I've been having trouble with shifting, mainly getting both of my feet to hit the brake and gas. I'm using G27 pedals and due to me being younger than most (13) I can't reach across until my foot's basically sideways. Do the Elites you use have an easier feel on the gas and brake?
@CaffeinatedPixels_
@CaffeinatedPixels_ 9 лет назад
Solved my problem by wearing a pair of shoes.
@DriftJunkie
@DriftJunkie 8 лет назад
+Imran Agassy Did you get separate pair of shoes for sim racing? :) (I know, I'm a year late)
@DriftJunkie
@DriftJunkie 8 лет назад
I mean, do you have a clean pair of shoes (normal/special doesn't matter) just for sim racing.
@sandrino5
@sandrino5 7 лет назад
A little old topic, but maybe this will help others. With Logitech G pedals, you can shift the pedal plates a little. All plates can be unscrewed and moved like 1cm left or right. Maybe gas to left, brake to right will close the gap enough.
@TacticalCardboard
@TacticalCardboard 11 лет назад
Yes, they all use sequential boxes now. HnT is an old world technique that now-a-days is pretty much forgotten about at in the high levels, but none the less is good to understand as that is pretty much the same thing that is going on with all these fancy transmissions.
@select20
@select20 9 лет назад
Really wish I could learn to heel toe, but thanks to my military service, I'm left with a bum left leg below the knee. I have tried left foot braking, or learning to, but with no feeling in my left foot, I just can't get it. I make do and I've noticed I do things when braking no one else does but that comes more from adapting and trying wierd things somtimes to try and duplicate an effect that you might achieve when you can left foot brake. It's still a handicap for me and there are times I feel lacking, but it's all learning. Eventually I come up with stuff to at least close the gap.
@dmitrykireev3607
@dmitrykireev3607 8 лет назад
It's a kind of a handicap, but a lot of "old school" drivers still use their right foot to brake and they don't seem to go slower than their competitors. Uwe Alzen is a typical example. He drives GT3 with paddle-shifts, but still uses his right foot for braking.
@select20
@select20 8 лет назад
Dmitry Kireev Yeah, After spending a lot more months in iracing and being able to talk to guys, there are other little ways that right foot brakers learn to carry speed. So all in all, you can learn to make up for it in other areas in very subtle ways. I haven't been able to play due to traveling for a few months now, but I can't wait to get back to it.
@TacticalCardboard
@TacticalCardboard 11 лет назад
Yes, it's one of the main advantages of an H pattern box. There is a vid actually here on YT of some guy in an IMSA GTP car (with only about... say 800 HP lol) going from 5th to 1st in the corkscrew - just one epically large downshift. Nothing wrong with it, I just naturally go through them all as it's the way I've always done it.
@grandprixrejects7027
@grandprixrejects7027 4 года назад
This video is 6 years old, and is still as relevant today. Thanks for teaching me how to tackle the chaos of a DRM car. Edit: Sub earned too.
@MultiHunterOne
@MultiHunterOne 3 года назад
Awesome video, although at 8:50 the text mentions that the transmission howls because it's a sequential. It howls because the gears are straight cut and the howl is the sound of gears smashing together hundreds of times per second instead of engaging smoothly like helical gears, this gives the gears the benefit of creating no longitudinal force on the shafts which eliminates the need for a thrust bearing which in turn makes the transmission lighter, that can also be a thing in a manual so yeah. (Source: I study mechanical engineering) Sorry for being a smartass but it didn't sit right with me not to correct it :C I hope whoever reads this has learned something interesting though.
@71tonywhite
@71tonywhite 7 лет назад
I was shopping for a manual car in my younger years when asking a car yard owner if they had any manual cars he quoted "If god intended us to drive manual he would have given us three legs" after hearing that I turned and ran as fast as I could. haha. Good video, very thorough explanation. As in using the clutch driving sims for me has been an easy transition as I drove trucks for most of my career. I just gotta keep it off the dirt now. lol. Keep the videos coming. :D
@GetboostedVR
@GetboostedVR 6 лет назад
Already know how to heel and toe, but it never hurts learning a little bit more about it. best advice for everyone is to understand why you do it before you begin to learn it, just like Empty Box just explained. its not the easiest thing to do but when you get it right the rewards and feeling of doing it without even really thinking about it is amazing, you feel like a pro racer lol
@LuutiRake
@LuutiRake 11 лет назад
just found your channel and i wanted to point out why i liked it from the began, a) you advice ppl to become better drives and the biggest b) footwork cam, your videos are enjoyable to watch
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