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Game: SimCity 3000 Unlimited (goes also by the name of SimCity 3000 World Edition, among others)
Goal: 1 million population as fast as possible, RTA (Real Time Attack)
Mandatory options:
Difficulty: Hard ($ 10,000 Loan)
[✓] Disasters
Free options:
Start date: 1900
City size: Large
I've played SimCity 3000 quite a lot in the past. When I realized that people had speedran both SC2K and SC4, but not SC3K, I knew this game would be fun to try. There have not been any previous attempts at playing this game fast (as far as I'm aware), so I had the joy of discovering the game mechanics and inventing ways to exploit them myself for this purpose. Still, the game is very complex and I think I have a lot more to understand about it.
This particular run itself was very successful, I think. My strategy was to go with the minimal loan and rush Maximum Security Prison that comes with a juicy $ 3,000 revenue annually - with minimal downsides in exchange. Then I increased the residential tax to the maximum; in the beginning of the game the residential interest is very high despite the astronomical taxation. It seems the residents don't even mind this later on - I think I'd need to investigate this phenomenon further, if I'm to improve the run later on. My road network was based on 7x7 blocks - an argument could be made for different sized blocks as well. Advantages of 7x7 include minimal wasted space and easiness to build. Commercial zones can't build in the middle square initially, but that isn't a big deal in my opinion.
I didn't spend much time on population cap, and zone shortage, power / water / trash problems were minimal. The disasters were quite lucky as well. Toxic clouds usually form in places where the air pollution is high, but they completely fail to form near the edges of the map. Since my coal plants produce most of the air pollution and they are placed next to the edge of the map, the toxic clouds tried to form there. That is why you can sometimes see the game go to "disaster mode" for only a brief second during the run. Having no earthquakes saved some time. An earthquake is always preceded with 2 warning (non damaging) earthquakes - I'd have saved the game after the latter warning and loaded it after having the damaging earthquake hit my city. Loading the game would glitch the earthquake to only damage tiles in the very upper corner of the map. Since this maneuver loses some time, I was lucky to not have to demonstrate it. Riots could have also formed before I had a decent police coverage; fortunately that didn't happen either.
I requested speedrun.com to add this game there, so I'd be able to post the run to the "official" leaderboard. However, they rejected the game since they are "not accepting endless games with arbitrary goals". This decision was very disappointing, since:
1) SimCity 2000, SimCity 4 and other titles such as Cities: Skylines, games that are just as "endless games with arbitrary goals", already exist in the site, so this is highly inconsistent.
2) As I pointed out in my request, there actually are 10 official scenarios in this game, with concrete goals and automatic termination of the game upon completition, that could be ran as well.
I requested this game to be added again, stressing these points. However, they still declined with the message: "Both games [SimCity 2000 and SimCity 4] were added before rules had gotten stricter. If they had been requested now, they would not have been accepted. We are still not accepting endless games with arbitrary goals", completely overlooking my second point. I guess some things can't be changed.
I'm happy to answer any questions about this run. Any competition is also certainly welcome, even without a proper leaderboard!

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@mattradical5794
@mattradical5794 2 года назад
I remember playing this game when I was a kid where my grandmother used to cook food for lunch and my grandfather was doing his work right next to my computer setup. Now they're both in heaven. :( The soundtrack of this game makes me remember of my grandparents and I miss them so much.
@Kyle-lx7xo
@Kyle-lx7xo 2 года назад
🙏
@johncage3969
@johncage3969 2 года назад
This comment has SOVL. RIP your Grandparents, brother.
@I666I
@I666I 2 года назад
Cry
@Zestybot3475
@Zestybot3475 2 года назад
You had a great childhood
@geggy310
@geggy310 2 года назад
i made it 69 likes :)
@blakeada999
@blakeada999 3 года назад
Welcome to Coal City, where you can visit one of over 400 zoos.
@chakal8778
@chakal8778 3 года назад
so many years ago, I still remember every part of this game, great video.
@davepenkalski1486
@davepenkalski1486 Год назад
I've played more than my share of sc3k and I have to say I'm impressed. If anything deserves to be listed on a site devoted to speedruns this is it. Amazing, totally popcorn worthy!
@3OrMoreBones
@3OrMoreBones 3 года назад
I'm glad I'm not the only one who spams the firefighter pole thing when there's a fire.
@Faime1Up
@Faime1Up 3 года назад
I just installed my original copy of SC 3000 on my 11 years laptop. She play the sims but I showed her what I use to play and now we're watching you. This was cool.
@madam757
@madam757 3 года назад
Well that's something I've never expected to see, nice run!
@kudjo24
@kudjo24 3 года назад
Lmao that residential tax rate incredible
@chrisbrianjeremiaholsen9787
@chrisbrianjeremiaholsen9787 2 года назад
Muhaha that's what I thought. Just like a demoKKKrat run city.
@Chosen1Creator
@Chosen1Creator 3 года назад
"Experts call power supply adequate for 1." Hey! What about the rest of us!?
@habbis_speedrun
@habbis_speedrun 3 года назад
:D
@KG-xt4oq
@KG-xt4oq 3 года назад
I loved playing this game back in the day...never saw the haunted house though? Where I worked at that time we had a computer that was solely used for training purposes (and very rarely). We were open 365 days a year, so working on weekends and holidays was inevitable. This was also a blessing in disguise because on those days you were the only one at work; this led to bringing in my Sim City 3000 CD-Rom with me one weekend and I spent all day playing to my heart's content. Over the course of about a year I had built quite a few massive cities...I don't remember the exact numbers but I think I had a 2mil population on one of them. I was so paranoid of getting caught that before I would start playing, I would change the date/time of the CPU back to 2-3 years in the past (and then change it back to the current date when done) so that the associated files that would be created/saved to the hard drive whenever I played and saved my progress would have that date affixed to it to make it look like someone had played the game on the CPU years prior...lol.
@DrAnGeber
@DrAnGeber 3 года назад
The Haunted House was included in the very rare and obscure(?) "Holiday Edition". It's very hard to find any information about this Edition but it's the Version we played in our family since then...
@SomeGuyWhoPlaysGames333
@SomeGuyWhoPlaysGames333 3 года назад
Nico Vercetti It’s called “Unlimited.” (In the U.S. at least)
@PokemonHaloFan
@PokemonHaloFan 2 года назад
I recall a prebuilt City that was included with the game called Metropolis that had a starting population of around 2 million. But I'm sure that one took weeks to make. The fact you did this in an hour is simply astounding. Great work.
@Ff-jg8lo
@Ff-jg8lo 3 года назад
RU-vid blessed me today with some nice algo. I loved playing this as a kid. I"m just starting to watch it now but it's nostalgic hearing the music and seeing someone play it to the greatest level of efficiency. I mean after all that was the point of the game.
@DaniboyBR2
@DaniboyBR2 3 года назад
I play it to this day on my low spec rig, I prefer Cities Skylines if I have the hardware to support it but since I'm using a low spec laptop because my rigs are slave-mining crypto I'm playing Simcity 3000.
@Valporite
@Valporite 5 месяцев назад
Very nice to see not just pictures of the result, but the entire proces itself. Just picked up this old game and needed some guidance. This helps out perfectly well with creating smart zone planning with the right sizes, effective distances and all that.
@GiuseppeS.
@GiuseppeS. 2 года назад
I'm playing with it these days, I remember my best city earning 1.5 million a year and I had 200 million in cash, I had built it on an atoll. Great game
@wlink639
@wlink639 3 года назад
"Not accepting endless games with arbitrary goals" Isn't Minecraft, the most popular game to speedrun right now, essentially that? Those rules need a revision.
@achtsekundenfurz7876
@achtsekundenfurz7876 3 года назад
Both MC and SC2 have some goals. For MC, the most popular is to defeat the Ender Dragon, sort of the final boss of the game. For SC2, the most notable is 120,000 population, which unlocks arcologies. The problem with SC3 is that there are very few goals I could think of; it's more sandbox-style than the earlier two games. (For _SimCity Uno_ , management specifically asked for the scenarios, because they thought that it wouldn't be enough of a game without any set goals.) I can't remember if there are scenarios in SC3, but if they are, they should count. The fact that speedrun:com decided to ignore the point entirely reeks of corruption. Still, there should be some possibility to set goals for games which don't have them, at least one or two "sensible" ones. For SC3, I'd say 1 million pop is the most straightforward one, and $1 million could be another.
@EnterJustice
@EnterJustice 2 года назад
@@achtsekundenfurz7876 SC3k does have scenarios to play. Aside from that I think the spaceport reward is the closest sc3k comes to some sort of ultimate goal. It requires you to get to over 2 million population and make it to the year 2500.
@asasnat342
@asasnat342 2 года назад
@@EnterJustice if that’s the case then explain why my city, with a population of less than 1 million (and far from reaching the year 2500) has the spaceport unlocked (and no, it’s not cheats)
@EnterJustice
@EnterJustice 2 года назад
@@asasnat342 That's quite the aggressive tone you've got there. We're talking about a video game that's over 20 years old, not anything worth getting your panties in a bunch.
@ev6558
@ev6558 6 месяцев назад
I don't even play Minecraft and even I know it has end goals. What a ridiculous comment.
@akiarashi9362
@akiarashi9362 3 года назад
Ich muss nur den alten Ost hören und habe die endlosen Stunden vor Augen, die ich auf unseren alten Familien-PC ohne Internet damit verbracht habe. 😍
@Rosi1_
@Rosi1_ 3 года назад
Good job! I remember playing this game, such great memories ! You are truly very good at this game, better than me !
@Maraus92
@Maraus92 3 года назад
This game was amazing... Remember that I learned using parks makes grounds be of higher values and bring wealthier citizens in.
@DeadlyLazer
@DeadlyLazer 5 месяцев назад
I still think the sound design in this game is unmatched. Later games' sound effects are more realistic, but the sound design choices in this game just has its own character thats just so satisfying to listen to while playing
@meditativeturtle
@meditativeturtle Год назад
Awesome, dude. If only you had added some voice commentary about what you were doing... Still impressed! :)
@supergeorge8603
@supergeorge8603 2 года назад
11:37 was the funniest I’ve ever seen on SimCity
@marcwhitlock5002
@marcwhitlock5002 2 года назад
Here I was actually building/funding police/firestations when you only need them when there's a fire or riot
@supergeorge8603
@supergeorge8603 2 года назад
@@marcwhitlock5002 I suppose when you’re playing with disasters off you don’t need fire stations at all, but it improves your city’s aura if you do build them.
@laughingalex7563
@laughingalex7563 2 года назад
@@supergeorge8603 he had them on though lol
@Myne1001
@Myne1001 3 года назад
Glad to see the ol' tax rise strat being used lol
@brocklee5773
@brocklee5773 3 года назад
Is there a benefit to making so many city to city connections? I always thought you only need one per side to get neighbor deals and it seems like you spent a lot of money on them in the first half that could've gone to more zone growth
@habbis_speedrun
@habbis_speedrun 3 года назад
Connections increase industrial and commercial demand. However, it could likely be the case that I indeed overinvested in the city connections initially in the run. Still, this should not be a problem as long as the other sections (enough zones, power, water, residential cap) are taken care of. All in all, finding optimal number of connections per city size would be a good place to improve on this run.
@archezwei1729
@archezwei1729 3 года назад
Thank you, I have been looking for this.
@daudiochero
@daudiochero 2 года назад
I recently started playing this again, this is awesome
@oscarriver1730
@oscarriver1730 3 года назад
Simcity 300 was the one I played, I would like to learn to use Simcity 4 without everything becoming a disaster xD
@GodSonBlessed
@GodSonBlessed 2 месяца назад
I played 2, 3 and 4. You'll be fine with 4 you'll just need about a week to learn how to budget properly, even on easy.
@CrabQueen
@CrabQueen 2 года назад
Doing a speedrun with disasters on? Ballsy
@RecioDj
@RecioDj 3 года назад
This is awesome! Really liked it.
@toks1c
@toks1c 3 года назад
You are the God of Mayors.
@bryanx0317
@bryanx0317 Год назад
The final amazing version to this series R.I.P.
@InCaldera
@InCaldera 9 месяцев назад
Call me crazy but I preferred 3000 over 4. Maybe it's just nostalgia, I don't know.
@calpal9983
@calpal9983 4 месяца назад
Same!
@petermuller608
@petermuller608 3 года назад
I loved that game!
@marcwhitlock5002
@marcwhitlock5002 2 года назад
My biggest take is to ignore the complaints, I didn't and my city never really grew cause i was constantly trying to please everyone
@WinnyJ1
@WinnyJ1 2 года назад
i remember the noises... my childhood
@robertkeaghan
@robertkeaghan 3 года назад
This is way harder than speedrunning SimCity 4!
@Gerelos
@Gerelos 3 года назад
That was fun. GG Habbis, nice run!
@bigmikeobama5314
@bigmikeobama5314 7 месяцев назад
the soundtrack of this game is awesome
@WeedyFlash
@WeedyFlash 2 года назад
Is it not good to put dense commercial near residential?
@NSS7
@NSS7 3 года назад
It is shame speedrun dont add this game. I would love to see creative way other player came out to reach 1 million faster.
@BoHarry71
@BoHarry71 2 года назад
How do you not have horrible traffic issues?
@bad99teddy
@bad99teddy 3 года назад
This is so cool. The fact you invented all the strats an techniques on your own. Id suggests you upload a sc3k speedrun of a scenario with a set ending. Once the game is added you can create categories on your own (I THINK it would make sence to me).
@bad99teddy
@bad99teddy 3 года назад
Man if i was in school still id make an presentation about this. Where i live you can choose your subject on your own
@pinkfluffy9610
@pinkfluffy9610 3 года назад
Sooo cool, Liebe geht raus! ♥️
@blakeada999
@blakeada999 3 года назад
Could have saved space by calling the video "China"
@araujo_jean
@araujo_jean 3 года назад
China%
@BlackPanther-kh3ly
@BlackPanther-kh3ly 2 года назад
1:07:29 - French version of SC3K World Edition has a bug at number of patients : appear a very largest number that citizens on the map.
@zmdeadelius
@zmdeadelius Год назад
Impressive! Good job! I wonder if this was influenced by Magnasanti somehow.
@KattoVideo
@KattoVideo 2 года назад
For your knowledge: commerce must be 3 tiles away from roades, residencial 4, and industrial 5, so all ur 7x7 Residencial and industrial fully develop, but your commercial never develop those middle squares away from de 6x6 when you place them in 7x7. When u started all ur commerce was on 6x6 so I said "he knows what hes doing", but then u went full auto 7x7. Is this on porpouse to lose less time?
@Mauspree
@Mauspree 3 года назад
3:30 aaaaaaaaaaand here goes
@BoppoShawzie
@BoppoShawzie 2 года назад
How do you know when to use the dense/light zones?
@maxavery8269
@maxavery8269 2 года назад
It's quite impressive how you maintain your budget and still have plenty of empty slots left.
@manufan1044
@manufan1044 3 года назад
were you buy this from bud couldnt find it?? i liked
@habbis_speedrun
@habbis_speedrun 3 года назад
GOG Galaxy - www.gog.com/galaxy
@crispers702
@crispers702 10 месяцев назад
I remember playing thia in elementary school when we had free time 😊
@johnnyrussul1278
@johnnyrussul1278 3 года назад
I love this game awesome game 😊
@parrotconservative
@parrotconservative 3 года назад
I was too young when I played this game I was too much of a idiot with cities 😂
@christophergilliam2328
@christophergilliam2328 3 года назад
That’s ok! Lots of real mayors and city planners are idiots too! We call them Democrats.
@parrotconservative
@parrotconservative 3 года назад
@@christophergilliam2328 San Francisco is one of those too 😂👍🏾
@conchamarfernandezrocca1494
@conchamarfernandezrocca1494 2 года назад
Hello, Nice gameplay. I have a fun SC3k Challenge for you
@ChaseMC215
@ChaseMC215 2 года назад
One of the songs in the game sounds like Garry Newman's Cars at points.
@Chris-wk8nu
@Chris-wk8nu Год назад
Did you have any deals with neighboring mayors? And what was your tax rates? Schools? Weall done.
@250R1983lover
@250R1983lover 2 года назад
I happily fell asleep to this video
@maxstudiosalkesero
@maxstudiosalkesero 3 года назад
fire: BlleBleeBleBleeebleBleBle
@manray666
@manray666 3 года назад
Funny looking simcity
@fermingonzalez1167
@fermingonzalez1167 10 месяцев назад
hello! nice video!!! This game for mac...es posible installing? thanks!!!
@alilawati87
@alilawati87 3 года назад
Can you share the saved file? there is a lot to learn from it, like where to place police, fire stations and recreation facilities. I did not know that it is sufficient to place electricity lines in a single line!! I have always messed with electricity lines as I placed them along street lines and near the zones!!
@CESkootchy
@CESkootchy 2 года назад
This rules. I would love to see people race this game. Maybe I should give it a go
@jq747
@jq747 3 года назад
Now power the city with nothing but wind turbines
@Numa2k
@Numa2k 3 года назад
I was on board till the fire department
@TylerChristensen69420
@TylerChristensen69420 3 года назад
Lmao. Built the station, dispatched the units then destroyed said station so they can't go back!
@vivereconnuvolina6297
@vivereconnuvolina6297 2 года назад
there is a new version of computers and phones!!! it's than beautiful
@munsters2
@munsters2 Год назад
Great speedrun. I'll have to try this. 1. Why all the neighbor road connections? 2. Why the neighbor subway connections? 3. Why the zoos and not any other parks or recreation? When I make a road, railroad or highway connection to a neighbor, I get none to light traffic? Why?
@habbis_speedrun
@habbis_speedrun Год назад
1. The game implies increased commercial and industrial demand. I was also able to find this connection in my own tests, thought the exact number and pace of road connections is not well optimized for this run. 2. The game implies increased residential demand. Again, same as 1st question. 3. Parks increase your residential cap, that is, the maximum population your city can have. Zoos have the largest increase among the parks and is accessible through hotkey, so it is preferable over other parks. (Library is the most space-effective for residential cap, as in the infamous Magnasanti city video) Don't know if the traffic shown in graphics correlates to the increased demand effect. If you research the 1st and 2nd point further, let me know of the results!
@munsters2
@munsters2 Год назад
@@habbis_speedrun Thank you very much. I just started a new game and will try this out.
@thrawthingalbyeblothingal3150
@thrawthingalbyeblothingal3150 3 года назад
so basically you just build a bunch of squares with roads & fill those in with different colored mini-squares of shit until the GIANT mega square is filled in. So squares inside of squares inside of squares!
@zephyrp8836
@zephyrp8836 2 года назад
Impressive. Any chance of an SC4 run?
@Harvon94
@Harvon94 2 месяца назад
56:01 soundtrack name???
@ddobrevs
@ddobrevs 3 года назад
The other of Sim city 3000 is so unique!
@macbriggs7361
@macbriggs7361 2 года назад
Turn down mouse sensitivity. Your cursor control is pure slop. You will get use to it and perfer it once you rebuild muscle memory.
@railroadhistoryarchives
@railroadhistoryarchives 3 года назад
This is way cool
@Uncleshawny
@Uncleshawny 5 месяцев назад
Man I’m getting old 😢
@jp-ui3tu
@jp-ui3tu Год назад
Where can i download it?
@en09
@en09 3 года назад
Is there much RNG in this run?
@habbis_speedrun
@habbis_speedrun 3 года назад
I had favourable disasters and unlocked the maximum security prison quickly. These things I've attributed to RNG. I am not sure how much RNG is there in RCI-demand and how much RNG is there in RCI translating to actual building construction / abandonment / etc. But I am pretty sure that even if they are completely deterministic, there are some really strong butterfly effects in play and thus deterministic theoretical patterns cannot be relied on in an actual run.
@en09
@en09 3 года назад
@@habbis_speedrun Interesting! I would like to see 2 save games running side-by-side in real time to see if it is deterministic. When I have some time maybe I'll do that. Nice video btw.
@Mateowable
@Mateowable 6 месяцев назад
gg
@Heffey02
@Heffey02 10 месяцев назад
Bro just built New York.
@TheXLAXLimpLungs
@TheXLAXLimpLungs Год назад
You are sure letting your ocd and good mayorship affect the speedrun
@user-ci6dx2lf7g
@user-ci6dx2lf7g 2 года назад
マナー災警報器アイコン良い加圧トレーニングカ名前カ🪓アイコン山坂本まかれ山歩きに🦟大使館
@Okkoson
@Okkoson 2 года назад
societal leisure needs: zoos
@Jon-hx7pe
@Jon-hx7pe 2 года назад
does this work on 64 bit operating systems?
@hashedhakahol
@hashedhakahol 2 года назад
yes
@berndbiesenkamp280
@berndbiesenkamp280 3 года назад
Sim city 3000 und sim city 4 das wahr geile spiele
@Nylon-xj9ml
@Nylon-xj9ml 2 года назад
Nice.
@justinw7323
@justinw7323 2 года назад
I actually had a low budget PC in the mid 90s that could run this 😆
@sittingduhk
@sittingduhk 4 месяца назад
30:40 bae bae bbb-bbb-bb bae bae bae baebaebub-bbbbbbb
@G_Silent
@G_Silent 3 года назад
My biggest city was around 11,000 but boy is this game hard.
@Chris-wk8nu
@Chris-wk8nu Год назад
It’s not that hard really
@balloony2515
@balloony2515 2 года назад
1:10:30 anyone know the music there?
@minukutty3772
@minukutty3772 2 года назад
Why RU-vidr is Not Making A Videos
@TallTapper
@TallTapper 7 месяцев назад
this is the part with the car
@sashan4722
@sashan4722 3 года назад
Whats the music? Its pretttty nice.
@habbis_speedrun
@habbis_speedrun 3 года назад
It is the default one in the game. It may differ from what you are used to since this game is the Unlimited edition.
@sashan4722
@sashan4722 3 года назад
@@habbis_speedrun oh wow, thanks. yeah I don't recognize it at all. time to pick up unlimited :)
@user-ci6dx2lf7g
@user-ci6dx2lf7g 2 года назад
🚩那覇バス🚌!ケーブル🦟叉記事クッション大使館 🗃名前
@simonpierrelauzon3845
@simonpierrelauzon3845 3 года назад
I'd say you built china except there were people living in those residential high density buildings
@bad99teddy
@bad99teddy 3 года назад
Why didn't you enact any ordinances
@habbis_speedrun
@habbis_speedrun 3 года назад
I enacted some later on in the run. Keep in mind that when you start at 1900 there aren't that many to pick from in the first place. But certainly, with more knowledge, enacting different ordinances, or enacting ordinances earlier, could optimize this run. I have a feeling on what ordinances are helpful and what are not, but ultimately their effects seem to be quite limited, based on tests I've run. Unfortunately, the actual effects of the ordinances are quite undocumented and I would love to have something like an excel sheet with numbers. All I've found is the advisors comments that are vague and online resources which pretty much parrot the aforementioned advises. Because of the lack of information, I decided to not have policies early in the run since they cost money and money is still the most scarce resource. Also, one important note is that the policies that reduce pollution are counter-intuitively bad for the run. Why? 1) They usually lower the demand for industry, lowering amount of jobs available, lowering residential interest. 2) With less pollution, occurring disasters will be other disasters than toxic clouds. Since toxic clouds lose no time because they fail to form on the edges of the map, this would ultimately lead to major time losses.
@hansschlosser3529
@hansschlosser3529 3 года назад
Why 8x7 layout?
@habbis_speedrun
@habbis_speedrun 3 года назад
"My road network was based on 7x7 blocks - an argument could be made for different sized blocks as well. Advantages of 7x7 include minimal wasted space and easiness to build. Commercial zones can't build in the middle square initially, but that isn't a big deal in my opinion."
@vivereconnuvolina6297
@vivereconnuvolina6297 2 года назад
old simcity
@user-ci6dx2lf7g
@user-ci6dx2lf7g 2 года назад
カミーラ湯、🌋クッション死てもらえますか?何ないはいま🫣 マンション🗃 🗃マンション大使館名前負けかは!が🦟
@Sqdlow
@Sqdlow 2 года назад
1:06:02 😂
@med4699
@med4699 2 года назад
You cheated by restoring your money. Not impressive
@maxdenim9841
@maxdenim9841 11 месяцев назад
Junk
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