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Similarities Between Greek and Arbëresh 

Bahador Alast
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In this video, we compare some of the common words between Greek (ελληνικά) and Arbëresh (Arbërisht).
Please be sure to check out George and Martin's channels:
George's channel: @DifficultGreek
Martin's channel: @ARBERESH
The picture shown during Martin's introduction of Sëndahstina is by Salvatore Di Marco.
Follow and message me on Instagram to give your suggestions and if you would like to participate in a future video: / bahadoralast
Arbëresh (arbërisht) is the Albanian language spoken by the Arbëreshë people in Italy.
We had a 2nd Greek speaker for this video, but something came up last minute and they were unable to join us, that's why we decided to continue this way with two Arbëresh speakers (Martin and Lidia) and 1 Greek speaker (George).
Greek (ελληνικά) is an independent branch of the Indo-European family of languages with a written record of over 3,000 years, easily making it the oldest documented Indo-European language. The Greek alphabet, originating from the Phoenician script, was the basis of numerous other scripts, such as Latin, Cyrillic, Coptic, Gothic, and Armenian. The Greek language has virtually impacted other languages in every corner of the world, being an important component of Western civilization, the Christian religion, and the language of some of the fundamental texts of science, astronomy, and mathematics. The Greek language today holds official status in Greece and Cyprus, and is recognized as a minority language in Albania, Armenia, Hungary, Italy, Romania, and Ukraine.
Arberesh is a polynomic language with multiple dialects and is part of the "Albanian language family".

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Комментарии : 1,5 тыс.   
@DifficultGreek
@DifficultGreek Год назад
Thank you for having us Bahador! I really enjoyed it!
@BahadorAlast
@BahadorAlast Год назад
My pleasure George! Thank you so much for being a part of it! For everyone else, I suggest checking out George's channel!
@ENDANGERED-LANGUAGES
@ENDANGERED-LANGUAGES Год назад
same here!
@arberia8951
@arberia8951 Год назад
Hi George, great video. You did not share with us, are you an Arvanite?
@DifficultGreek
@DifficultGreek Год назад
@@arberia8951 Hi! No, I'm not, and I don't speak any Albanian or Arvanitika. Although, where I'm from, there are a lot of Arvanites.
@arberia8951
@arberia8951 Год назад
@@DifficultGreek Thank you for the reply George. It is so amazing and nice hearing that there so much similarity with many things shared together. In fact it should not be any different. :) Please encourage and help your patriots back in Preveza to continue their traditions and preserve their heritage, custom and language. All the best :)
@EnthusiasticStudent-je2bw
@EnthusiasticStudent-je2bw 9 месяцев назад
My mother tongue is Bengali. But I learnt Greek language. So, I enjoyed this video 🥰
@dougpiranha3230
@dougpiranha3230 Год назад
I'm an albanian from Kosovo and I find it so interesting! Arbëresh language uses a lot of greek and italian words, but the syntax and the prepositions and conjunctions are exactly like in albanian; like albanian with foreign words. Had fun watching this!
@ENDANGERED-LANGUAGES
@ENDANGERED-LANGUAGES Год назад
do you have any examples?
@Usera2324dfre
@Usera2324dfre Год назад
Your syntax and grammatic you take from latin priests ,you did nt have written until recently , And latin based in greek grammar language
@ENDANGERED-LANGUAGES
@ENDANGERED-LANGUAGES Год назад
@@Usera2324dfre our syntax and grammar is NOT latin
@Tuta25Tuta5
@Tuta25Tuta5 Год назад
@@Usera2324dfre 🤣🤣Alto Latin,Nalt-Lart Albanians,and Greek Pano.. Umano Latin,Njeri Albanian,and Anthropo Greek,Monte Latin,Mal Albanians and Vuno Greeks,.Acqua latin,Uj Albanians and Nero Greeks ,Fiume Lat..Lum Alb.and Potam Gr, Sol Lat,Diell Alb and Ilio Gr,Lun Lat,Han Alb and Fengari and Selen Gr,Donna Lat,Grua Al,Gjineka (alb etimologi from Gji)Gr, Ochio Lat,Sy Alb and Mati Gr, Testa Lat, Krye-Kok-Kaptin Alb and Qefali Gr,Corpo Lat,Trup -Shtat Alb and Soma Gr etc,etc etc..based in greek languige!!!! are stupide?
@Marubi2
@Marubi2 Год назад
What are you talking about? Preveza was Albanian until 100 years ago. People in Preveza are mostly Albanians who speak Greek that’s why these are Tosk Albanian words. I bet the teacher’s grandfather spoke Albanian but now they identify as Greek. Also, Arber-esh music and literature is full of lament and songs about Arberia (Albania proper which obviously included Preveza, Arta, Parga, Crete, Thessalonik etc.) The song “O e bukura More-a” is about the Arberesh leaving their homeland of Pelonnesus in Arberia.
@godogodaj5434
@godogodaj5434 Год назад
All this words are understood by me because I am from South Albania. There are many words used by my grandmother like. (K)Serikua, Katua, perivol, palikar ect ect
@chrisg.k487
@chrisg.k487 Год назад
Perivol is greek word from "perivolos".
@georgekiriak7027
@georgekiriak7027 Год назад
Greeks and albanians were very close with one another in the Empire before the ottoman conquest
@Usera2324dfre
@Usera2324dfre 9 месяцев назад
​@@georgekiriak7027 albanian is based on greek and latin nothing else. And slavik and turkish Nothing else exist
@beratmaliqi5445
@beratmaliqi5445 8 месяцев назад
Katua - Gatua in Albanian is it like cooking ?? Perivol - Pervlu in Albanian like to scald? or Periferi in Albanianwhich means surburbs Loloudia - LULE in Albanian for flower GJITONE - gjitur ana is like NEXT TOO , which has the meaning of Neighbour Koukla - Kuklla for Doll Drandofil in albanian is rose i wish i can find more similar Greek- Albanian words 💋🇽🇰🇦🇱🇬🇷
@southepirote7676
@southepirote7676 7 месяцев назад
@@Usera2324dfre The notion of Greeks being ethnically homogenous and direct descendants of the Hellenes has been a persistent narrative, often used to foster a sense of unity and historical continuity. However, a closer examination reveals the complexity and diversity within the Greek population, challenging the simplistic portrayal of ethnic homogeneity and direct lineage from the ancient Hellenes. To begin with, Greece has been a crossroads of various civilizations throughout history, including interactions with Albanians, Romans, Byzantines, Ottomans, and others. This rich history of cultural exchanges has inevitably left an imprint on the ethnic composition of the region. Genetic studies indicate a diversity of influences, reflecting the historical interactions and migrations that have shaped the genetic makeup of the Greek people. This diversity challenges the notion of a singular, homogeneous ethnic origin. Moreover, the concept of ethnicity itself is complex and dynamic. It is not solely determined by genetic factors but is also influenced by cultural, linguistic, and historical elements. While the Hellenes were indeed one of the ancient tribes in the region, claiming a direct ethnic lineage from them oversimplifies the intricate processes of cultural assimilation, intermixing, and acculturation that have occurred over centuries. Language, often considered a key marker of ethnic identity, also presents complexities. The modern Greeks language belongs to the Indo-European family but is distinct within this linguistic group. While it has roots in the Hellenic language, linguistic evolution and influences from Latin, Slavic, and other languages have contributed to its unique character. This linguistic complexity challenges the notion of a straightforward, unbroken linguistic continuity between ancient Hellenic and modern Greek. Historical records further complicate the narrative of ethnic homogeneity. The region has witnessed migrations, invasions, and changes in political control, all of which have contributed to the diversity within the Greek population. The medieval period, for example, saw the influx of various groups, including Slavs and Normans, leaving lasting cultural and genetic impacts. In conclusion, the idea of Greeks being ethnically homogenous and direct descendants of the Hellenes is a simplistic narrative that does not fully capture the complexity of Greece's history and the diversity within its population. Genetic, linguistic, and historical evidence points to a more nuanced and multifaceted reality, highlighting the need to approach the question of Greek identity with a recognition of the intricate processes of cultural evolution and interaction that have shaped the region over millennia.
@hassanalast6670
@hassanalast6670 Год назад
Good to know about the common words between Greek and Arberesh.
@MertSezgin-js7ny
@MertSezgin-js7ny Год назад
😂😂😂
@apmoy70
@apmoy70 Год назад
@@klajdizemblaku8256 Err, no
@efibasdra6328
@efibasdra6328 Год назад
@@klajdizemblaku8256 piece of cake 😂. Just check the Liddell Scott 😂😂😂
@efibasdra6328
@efibasdra6328 Год назад
@@klajdizemblaku8256 there’s a Greek saying that translates as “Albanian head” meaning that someone is too stubborn 😊 No more waisting my time and effort on you!
@Alexikoua-o2o
@Alexikoua-o2o Год назад
Greek words not just common words.
@Philoglossos
@Philoglossos Год назад
You should do a Greek/Sicilian video!
@LauraGarcia-tk1zj
@LauraGarcia-tk1zj Год назад
We need Greek/Spanish
@Chris.Davidson99836
@Chris.Davidson99836 Год назад
Magna Grecia
@SimpleManSweden
@SimpleManSweden 11 месяцев назад
@@LauraGarcia-tk1zj I know one word ( I think) - Cuniada
@Jessi_apo
@Jessi_apo 4 месяца назад
​@@SimpleManSwedenEspanol palavra
@davidscwimer1974
@davidscwimer1974 7 месяцев назад
We are all jelouse of the Albanian you know … they built the Parthenon 🏛️ Only in Albanian we can decipher what Parthenon means ! Partha = albanians Non = smell Albanians smell 😂
@southepirote7676
@southepirote7676 7 месяцев назад
Not only did the build Parthenon but they also the built the buildings/houses you live in. All of your construction workers and architects are Albanian 😂
@southepirote7676
@southepirote7676 7 месяцев назад
That literally makes no sense 😂
@davidscwimer1974
@davidscwimer1974 7 месяцев назад
@@southepirote7676 yes they did build our houses … very cheap … thank god … they clean our toilets too !
@Jessi_apo
@Jessi_apo Месяц назад
@@davidscwimer1974 Africa,afr ika, every thing Albaniangkitoni
@vangelisskia214
@vangelisskia214 7 месяцев назад
"Petros Karolidis... tried, as he writes in his related thesis (Hellinismos magazine, year 1904 p. 176-183), to speak in Greek to an old resident in Piana dei Greci, but he realized that she only knew Arvanitika, and he told this to the Italian who recommended her to him. 'The good presbyter, as soon as she heard me say that her language was not mainly Greek, protested, indignantly exclaimed: IO SONO propria GRECA-I AM a genuine GREEK'."' From the classic book by the Arvanitis Kostas Mpiris "Arvanites, The Dorians of modern Hellenism" (p. 328)
@southepirote7676
@southepirote7676 7 месяцев назад
Greeks are orthodox Albanians brainwashed by Greek nationalism
@jorham1
@jorham1 6 месяцев назад
all educated arberesh could understand greek...written language for arberesh was greek
@jorham1
@jorham1 6 месяцев назад
@@southepirote7676 albanians are not orthodox they are turkish muslims from azarbaijan
@southepirote7676
@southepirote7676 6 месяцев назад
@@jorham1 The notion of Greeks being ethnically homogenous and direct descendants of the Hellenes has been a persistent narrative, often used to foster a sense of unity and historical continuity. However, a closer examination reveals the complexity and diversity within the Greek population, challenging the simplistic portrayal of ethnic homogeneity and direct lineage from the ancient Hellenes. To begin with, Greece has been a crossroads of various civilizations throughout history, including interactions with Albanians, Romans, Byzantines, Ottomans, and others. This rich history of cultural exchanges has inevitably left an imprint on the ethnic composition of the region. Genetic studies indicate a diversity of influences, reflecting the historical interactions and migrations that have shaped the genetic makeup of the Greek people. This diversity challenges the notion of a singular, homogeneous ethnic origin. Moreover, the concept of ethnicity itself is complex and dynamic. It is not solely determined by genetic factors but is also influenced by cultural, linguistic, and historical elements. While the Hellenes were indeed one of the ancient tribes in the region, claiming a direct ethnic lineage from them oversimplifies the intricate processes of cultural assimilation, intermixing, and acculturation that have occurred over centuries. Language, often considered a key marker of ethnic identity, also presents complexities. The modern Greeks language belongs to the Indo-European family but is distinct within this linguistic group. While it has roots in the Hellenic language, linguistic evolution and influences from Latin, Slavic, and other languages have contributed to its unique character. This linguistic complexity challenges the notion of a straightforward, unbroken linguistic continuity between ancient Hellenic and modern Greek. Historical records further complicate the narrative of ethnic homogeneity. The region has witnessed migrations, invasions, and changes in political control, all of which have contributed to the diversity within the Greek population. The medieval period, for example, saw the influx of various groups, including Slavs and Normans, leaving lasting cultural and genetic impacts. In conclusion, the idea of Greeks being ethnically homogenous and direct descendants of the Hellenes is a simplistic narrative that does not fully capture the complexity of Greece's history and the diversity within its population. Genetic, linguistic, and historical evidence points to a more nuanced and multifaceted reality, highlighting the need to approach the question of Greek identity with a recognition of the intricate processes of cultural evolution and interaction that have shaped the region over millennia.
@jorham1
@jorham1 6 месяцев назад
@@southepirote7676 the notion of you normal people is pure fantasy...you sound psychiatric
@martelkapo
@martelkapo Год назад
I recognize Lidia and Martin from their appearances on the Ecolinguist channel! The three guests in this video have great chemistry between them. Awesome video, Bahador
@ugabugabagaga
@ugabugabagaga Месяц назад
People , ALMOST EVERY WORD all of you said are Greek ort of Greek origin.So as i understand Arberesh are either a separated Greek language with other elements or something like a Greek dialect.I might be wrong about the language as a whole , but the words you mentioned are almost all Greek.
@DemetriosKongas
@DemetriosKongas Год назад
What Albanian dialect are you talking about? Most of the words are Greek with a few Italian or Latin ones.
@gentigenti7752
@gentigenti7752 Год назад
No. The Albanian language is the mother of all languages ​​in Europe not Greek.
@DemetriosKongas
@DemetriosKongas Год назад
@@gentigenti7752 nobody said that Greek is the mother of all languages. This is stupid. But Greeks developed a fantastic civilization which provided the basis for European civilisation. The Illyrians did not develop any civilisation. There sre no Illyrian texts for us to know what the language looked like. Linguists try to make some sense by using names of places. That is why half the Albanian vocabulary is from latin.
@gentigenti7752
@gentigenti7752 Год назад
@@DemetriosKongas No, Latin comes from Albanian like Greek and many other European languages.We have the Lemno stele like all other engravings in southern Italy that speak Albanian.
@DemetriosKongas
@DemetriosKongas Год назад
@@gentigenti7752 how do you know that? We do not have any texts written in Illyrian. No epics like Illiad and Odyssey, no lyrical poems, no philosophy no history. How do you say philosophy in Albanian, how do you say democracy, how do you say republic, how do you say poetry? You use Greek and Latin words.
@DemetriosKongas
@DemetriosKongas Год назад
@@gentigenti7752 the Lemnos stele (this is a Greek word) is etruscan written in Greek letters.
@LitsaPodara
@LitsaPodara 8 месяцев назад
THE SIMILARITIES ARE MIND BLOWING! THE WORDS ARE PRACTICALLY THE SAME!
@durimmiziraj4815
@durimmiziraj4815 7 месяцев назад
Your just scratching the surface. There are lots more.
@DuaLipaLover3.0
@DuaLipaLover3.0 Год назад
Can you do similarities between Greek and Albanian, please?
@ambradarian6160
@ambradarian6160 11 месяцев назад
That would be very interesting to see
@AKRITAS365
@AKRITAS365 2 месяца назад
Just because they speak arvanitika it doesn't make them turkoalbanians.
@gj7710
@gj7710 Месяц назад
​@@AKRITAS365Said from someone who's 1/3 people came exactly from that area, Turkey, as a result of a huge population exchange between Greece and Turkey in 1930 😅😅😅
@balboaal
@balboaal 24 дня назад
⁠@@AKRITAS365 arvanitika = 🇦🇱
@saebica
@saebica Год назад
I wish we had a Romanian/Greek/Aromanian video
@saebica
@saebica Год назад
Maybe one day I will participate with Aromanian xd
@MrsTashaP1
@MrsTashaP1 Год назад
Yes, I speak Vlashki, it is spoken in East Serbia, very similar to Romanian… spoken in some parts of Macedonia, Greece, Albania, Bulgaria maybe even Ukraine and Turkey….
@saebica
@saebica Год назад
@@MrsTashaP1 Are you in the Serbiam Banat, Timok? That's Romanian.
@MrsTashaP1
@MrsTashaP1 Год назад
@@saebica I live overseas but I am from the Timok area.
@saebica
@saebica Год назад
@@MrsTashaP1 yeah, you're the Timok Romanian. We speak different Vlach languages
@elizaa.367
@elizaa.367 Год назад
Beautiful video, Bahador! 😊
@ΝεκτάριοςΧριστοφή-σ5δ
Γκέγκε Gjegje is probably a loanword from Arvanitic to Greek dialects in those areas. In others dialects it's not used or not known before the media usage of those dialects. It doesn't change form and used only as an interjection
@dinos9607
@dinos9607 Год назад
Meanwhile the Tosk Abanian Ali Pasha required a translator in order to communicate with the Gege Albanians... apparently the Gege were asking him "Gege?" and through his translator he would reply "No, Tosk".
@Estelleeeeee
@Estelleeeeee Год назад
WE say Gkegke in Greek when we are pissed when someone doesn't understand something we say and we're gonna be like " GKEGKE? did you get it? or do you want me to say it in another language?" xD Gkegke is like an angry Italian saying "Capis??" and do the hand movement!
@ΝεκτάριοςΧριστοφή-σ5δ
@@Estelleeeeee yes, exactly but not in every area, not all Greek speakers use this and for some like myself sounds quite foreign
@Marubi2
@Marubi2 Год назад
This guy is from Preveza which was 100 % Albanian until 100 years ago and they are all speaking old Albanian words.
@ΝεκτάριοςΧριστοφή-σ5δ
@@Marubi2 not at all my friend, you should study history more. Quite a few Cham Albanians lived there but the Preveza are was inhabited by Greeks since prehistory, some Albanians migrate much much later in the Middle Ages, the population was still heavily Greek.
@diellonrrezon5982
@diellonrrezon5982 2 месяца назад
Pershendeje Trima Dhe Zoti Ju Bekofte 8 )
@ekmalsukarno2302
@ekmalsukarno2302 Год назад
Bahador, can you please make a video on similarities between Thai and Khmer. Can you also please make a video on similarities between Khmer and Vietnamese. Thank you very much.
@JacobNax
@JacobNax 8 месяцев назад
There are similarities because they are essentially the same people that diverged into different cultures. Even in Albania itself they speak unique dialects per city that some native albanians have a hard time understanding. Communication was difficult in ancient times so translation would get slightly skewed by different interpretations so teaching the ancient language diversified many different nearby towns and villages as the interpretation was slightly different because there were no means for accurate information like today where we can use the internet or mass publish books. You had to teach the language in-person and interpret it yourself as a teacher. Your students would teach the language in their own interpretations and so the language would fork into many similar ones.
@duarelax5985
@duarelax5985 3 месяца назад
As an Albanian (from modern day Albania) I would say that this video is to bring some chill and good vibes to the hardcore Greek cultural claimers... here, they can see how much our culture is intertwined ...and there is NO clear cut between us.
@nilssonharrison
@nilssonharrison Месяц назад
Well maybe on the other hand you can chill out every fucking Albanian I ever met who claims everything Greek is theirs. Shhhhhh
@Chloe-hu9tf
@Chloe-hu9tf 8 месяцев назад
Albanian doctors use a lot of greek words. Educated albanians probably know it
@lefisallata206
@lefisallata206 Год назад
Shume bukur❤❤❤❤
@issavisisland9870
@issavisisland9870 11 месяцев назад
3:00 Greeks and Arberesh say Horio-Hore Albanians say fshati 3:11 Greeks and Arberesh say dhrom(os) Albanians say Rruga 3:25 Greeks and Arberesh say Geitonja Albanians say Lagje Nothing in common
@petrivesho1343
@petrivesho1343 10 месяцев назад
Yeah, but all the other words are pure albanian 😅
@issavisisland9870
@issavisisland9870 10 месяцев назад
@@petrivesho1343 What is albanian? The whole video are phrases , verbs, nouns and words common between Arberes and Greeks 8:30 Arberesh and rest of the Greeks say : dhaskali na diavasoun Albanians say: mësuesit për të lexuar Nothing in common
@petrivesho1343
@petrivesho1343 10 месяцев назад
@@issavisisland9870 i guess you do not even know Albanian language. I am not talking about some words that are showing in the video. I am talking about Arbëresh language. All the components and structure of that language are albanian. This is well known all over the world man
@issavisisland9870
@issavisisland9870 10 месяцев назад
@@petrivesho1343 This is not well known all over the world. World don't care about albanian language. So do I I'm commenting only what i see. All arberesh words and verbs in this video are ALL Greek.
@petrivesho1343
@petrivesho1343 10 месяцев назад
@@issavisisland9870 lol, you think the world care because of this video. Nobody in the world cant even read that alphabet....
@sakismpalatsias4106
@sakismpalatsias4106 Год назад
Question? Arventis though now, after over 200 years. Is mixed. I know people who arventis back ground but actual arventis is a small %. As such, would that be the same with people in Italy?
Год назад
Absolutely the same yes
@andreaberat3355
@andreaberat3355 Год назад
Νγκά βιέν ορε μίκ;
@livechild212
@livechild212 8 месяцев назад
More than half of your country is Arvanitas by blood. They're just assimilated.
@Kostas-kp1pq
@Kostas-kp1pq Год назад
most of the words were actually Greek and some Latin
@xheoncala7491
@xheoncala7491 Год назад
Everything is Greek😂😂 and yet you need translators when they actually speak 😂😂 by the way go check Greek words similar to turkey arabia Italy 😂😂😂
@alb-333
@alb-333 8 месяцев назад
you have those words from Arvanite, everything seems Greek to you and you have nothing to do with the Greeks. You are an Asian immigrant
@denijegeni378
@denijegeni378 Год назад
Gjegj means to listen in albanian, comes from the word to find to feel and thing. A gjegje? - did you hear?
@sakisathan9176
@sakisathan9176 3 месяца назад
Arvanites don’t speak Albanian; the Albanians spoke Illyrian. Simply put, the Arvanites are a Greek ethnic group and they got their name from Arvanon, a place in Epirus. Historically, the Arvanites were close to other Greek ethnic groups and they were Christians. During the Greek Revolution, they fought against the Albanians who had joined forces with the Ottomans because they were Muslims and formed the 'Turko-Albanian' forces. Many times during the Greek Revolution, the Arvanites not only fought the Albanians but also defeated them. You can still find proud Arvanites in southern Albania who raise the Greek flag all over southern Albania, and many of them have been jailed by the Albanian regime.
@OstasHs
@OstasHs 8 месяцев назад
Αll the words communicated in this exercise have Greek (Hellenic) origin. For instance: φυλακη, χωριον, δρομος, γειτονια, παπας, στολιζω, παρακαλω, ιατρος (even the "doctor" translation to "iatros" originates from "didaktor". Bercause Latin absorbed plenty of Greek. Same applies to the rest of the words. The teacher was kind enough to avoid being pendantic (another Greek word). All of this is really not something to be surprised about because Greek culture and its influence on the world (let alone neighboring people) is monumental.
@inaleka760
@inaleka760 7 месяцев назад
😂😂😂😂😂
@southepirote7676
@southepirote7676 7 месяцев назад
Lmao 🤣
@ParabolicDaemon
@ParabolicDaemon 7 месяцев назад
The Greek teacher kindly and with ease showed the supremacy of the Greeks.
@t.d4015
@t.d4015 6 месяцев назад
So Albanians got the language from the modern Greek LAnguage? Or could it be the opposite? As far as i know Albanian is unique and ancient enough
@OstasHs
@OstasHs 5 месяцев назад
You don't quite reach the level of the Greeks, and it's not just you. They're a culture like no other.
@perikliskarolidis5169
@perikliskarolidis5169 Год назад
Very natural for two nations that have been next to eachother for millenia
@jakefutplot
@jakefutplot 5 месяцев назад
Nothing strange here. The vast majority of Arbëreshes of Sicilia came from Peloponnese, Greece. Yes, they were Albanians and a small part of them still speak Albanian, but at the time they moved (centuries 16-18th) from today Greece to Italy, their Hellenization process had already started. Additionally to that, is that some similar words in Greek and Albanian language are of Proto-Balkan origin. .... "Parkales" mentioned here is the bridge between "parakalo" in Greek and "perkul/ perkulesh" in Albanian (bow, incline, kneel). Similar discussion for the word "gjitone" - neighbor, used identically in Greek and in Albanian Tosk dialect, a word of Proto-Balkan origjin. English "neighbor" = Albanian "ngjitur" (shtepia ngjitur)., which itself comes from the root "breast". " n' gji-tone" = "close to our breast"
@jakefutplot
@jakefutplot 5 месяцев назад
@@gulielmo4034 If you cannot understand or do not want to understand, I am not the one I can help you
@gulielmo4034
@gulielmo4034 5 месяцев назад
@@jakefutplot γείτων (giton) γειτονας-neighbor Αριστογειτων(aristogiton) Greek name αριστος = καλος - αγαθος Γειτων = γειτονας The good neighbor... Παρακλησιν-παρακληση-paraklisi (parkales) ικετεύω-beg... I think I helped you a little...
@sp2558
@sp2558 2 месяца назад
no they are dorian greeks... they never were albanians... they are just albanized by force... like the chams who were islamized greeks who became albanoturks...
@southepirote7676
@southepirote7676 2 месяца назад
​@@sp2558 Arvanites were Christianized Albanians and then became SlavoGreeks by force. All of Greece is Albanian. Ancient Epirus. Dorians.... another Albanian tribe.
@Theodisc
@Theodisc Год назад
Ο Γιώργος is one smart cookie, I deem. 👍🏽
@duarelax5985
@duarelax5985 3 месяца назад
parkales - Arberesh, parakalo - Greek, perkulesh - Albanian... "perkulesh" in Albanian is "to fold your body, to bow (to the God)"
@bandolero5068
@bandolero5068 Год назад
whether our languages are convergent or divergent, or so far removed as to be mutually unintelligible, there remains more that we have in common and unites us as humans than which divides us. Peace to all.
@hvar-pharosisland2268
@hvar-pharosisland2268 Год назад
Tsamis, Cham Thyamis Tsamiko Tsamouria, are all, Greek origin words: Thyamis (because of many Thymari plants along river) ancient Greek Epirotan river became Tsamis. Idiomatism just like we say Kathise - Katse Thyamis- Tsamis
@southepirote7676
@southepirote7676 10 месяцев назад
Hahahaha omg! Greek nationalism 😂
@katrin715w56w
@katrin715w56w 9 месяцев назад
​@@southepirote7676this is not greek nationalism but science but turkalbos or slav albos dosnt believe this couse they dont belong in albania generally 😅
@southepirote7676
@southepirote7676 9 месяцев назад
@@katrin715w56w You don't even belong in Greece let alone Epirus. All Greece is Albanian land 😂
@southepirote7676
@southepirote7676 9 месяцев назад
@@katrin715w56w Greece is literally a false state created by great powers on Albanian lands.
@southepirote7676
@southepirote7676 9 месяцев назад
@@katrin715w56w Greeks are just a mix of Albanians, Italians, Slavs and Turks.
@AgronHausmeisterservice-vi7gv
Respekt Martin !!!!!!
@mpampismarketos2253
@mpampismarketos2253 Год назад
When out of 100 words 95 are Greek, you don't call it an Albanian dialect, and indeed when almost all of them are ancient Greek, from what I see in the video, 🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂😂 SIMILARITIES ?????? 😂😂🤣🤣😂😂🤣🤣
@Alexikoua-o2o
@Alexikoua-o2o Год назад
Thats Greek. Any languege has foreign words. Thats just greek with some albanian words learned from these immigrants.
@dios1ish868
@dios1ish868 Год назад
@@Alexikoua-o2o They're Arebresh and Arbersh are Albanians. There are Arvanites in Greece as well, so the languages mixed together, although between the two peoples the mixing has been for millennia in language and more living with each-other. Also, here you hear only some of the words that sound similar to both greeks and Albanians, which Albanians too say that belongs to them as well.
@Notme17111
@Notme17111 Год назад
Gjitonia a Greek word yeah right just like luludhi don't forget that some of your vocab has archaic old Albanian words that not even in Albanian are in use today that doesn't make the words Greek😂
@Notme17111
@Notme17111 Год назад
⁠@@Alexikoua-o2othey are Arberesh they came the same from Arvanites they spoke the most clean and archaic Albanian obviously Greek is gonna have loans from Arvanites they fought in the independence war.
@kristaps5296
@kristaps5296 Год назад
@@Notme17111 I love arvanites they kⲓⲥked turkalbanian ⲁςς
@ΑστεριοςΣκοδρας
Amazing! As a Greek I even thing I could speak with one of those fine guys fluently! Almost anyway...❤
@andrem1403
@andrem1403 Год назад
@@topeagle6248 Ας υποθέσουμε ότι έχουν διαλέξει λέξεις, αλλά και προτάσεις; Δεν το έχω ξαναδεί αυτό σε άλλους συνδυασμούς γλωσσών
@xheoncala7491
@xheoncala7491 Год назад
As an Albanian I’m 100% sure you can’t 😂😂😂 but I can translate it for you
@xheoncala7491
@xheoncala7491 Год назад
@@andrem1403just search arvanit language Greeks don’t understand a thing from it. Greeks have similar words with Italy and turkey but they still don’t understand them
@SimpleManSweden
@SimpleManSweden 11 месяцев назад
If you speak Greek and Albanian language then yes , you may communicate. Obviously you have not seen the rest of the videos. It's ok I would be confused too actually. For example they will tell you. Arberesh. Mirë se na jerdhe. si ë zotrote? Gëzonem të të njoh. Greek. Kalos mas irthate. Pos ise ? Herome pou se gnorizo. Greek words are existing everywhere. I have met people from Arabic countries and Iran and sometimes I hear greek words. For example in Persian language you can hear words like- halasi ( χαλάσει ) klidh ( κλειδί) and more that I can't remember. My Egyptian friend told me that Egyptian language before Arabic had a big amount of greek words.
@ΕλευθέριοςΓιαννακόπουλος
WOOOOOOOOOOW! Very Nice!
@vangelisskia214
@vangelisskia214 7 месяцев назад
All these words are Greek derived...
@s_p_g_1791
@s_p_g_1791 Месяц назад
Proof?
@vangelisskia214
@vangelisskia214 Месяц назад
@@s_p_g_1791 In Arberesh language: "thank you" is haristís [xaɾiˈstis] from the GREEK ευχαριστώ [e̞fˌxariˈsto̞] ('thank you'). "village" is hora from the GREEK χώρα [chóra] ('land, village') gjitonia "neighbourhood", from the GREEK γειτονία. dhaskal "teacher", from the GREEK δάσκαλος. bla bla bla
@hysnijederguti
@hysnijederguti Год назад
I'm Albanian from Kosova, and I do understand your words. Love mother language old Albanian language ❤❤❤
@chrisg.k487
@chrisg.k487 Год назад
These is a mix. Greek with some Tosk. Are you sure that are albanians?😂😂😂
@southepirote7676
@southepirote7676 7 месяцев назад
The notion of Greeks being ethnically homogenous and direct descendants of the Hellenes has been a persistent narrative, often used to foster a sense of unity and historical continuity. However, a closer examination reveals the complexity and diversity within the Greek population, challenging the simplistic portrayal of ethnic homogeneity and direct lineage from the ancient Hellenes. To begin with, Greece has been a crossroads of various civilizations throughout history, including interactions with Albanians, Romans, Byzantines, Ottomans, and others. This rich history of cultural exchanges has inevitably left an imprint on the ethnic composition of the region. Genetic studies indicate a diversity of influences, reflecting the historical interactions and migrations that have shaped the genetic makeup of the Greek people. This diversity challenges the notion of a singular, homogeneous ethnic origin. Moreover, the concept of ethnicity itself is complex and dynamic. It is not solely determined by genetic factors but is also influenced by cultural, linguistic, and historical elements. While the Hellenes were indeed one of the ancient tribes in the region, claiming a direct ethnic lineage from them oversimplifies the intricate processes of cultural assimilation, intermixing, and acculturation that have occurred over centuries. Language, often considered a key marker of ethnic identity, also presents complexities. The modern Greeks language belongs to the Indo-European family but is distinct within this linguistic group. While it has roots in the Hellenic language, linguistic evolution and influences from Latin, Slavic, and other languages have contributed to its unique character. This linguistic complexity challenges the notion of a straightforward, unbroken linguistic continuity between ancient Hellenic and modern Greek. Historical records further complicate the narrative of ethnic homogeneity. The region has witnessed migrations, invasions, and changes in political control, all of which have contributed to the diversity within the Greek population. The medieval period, for example, saw the influx of various groups, including Slavs and Normans, leaving lasting cultural and genetic impacts. In conclusion, the idea of Greeks being ethnically homogenous and direct descendants of the Hellenes is a simplistic narrative that does not fully capture the complexity of Greece's history and the diversity within its population. Genetic, linguistic, and historical evidence points to a more nuanced and multifaceted reality, highlighting the need to approach the question of Greek identity with a recognition of the intricate processes of cultural evolution and interaction that have shaped the region over millennia.
@chrisg.k487
@chrisg.k487 7 месяцев назад
​@@southepirote7676No. The Albanians think that they're ethnically homogeneous. 😂😂😂😂
@Jessi_apo
@Jessi_apo 4 месяца назад
​@@southepirote7676big professor you are imam or tourk from the milion tourks living in Albania
@demetriusstavrinos1909
@demetriusstavrinos1909 Год назад
So touching!!!!!!
@ervinxx2545
@ervinxx2545 3 месяца назад
The relationship of the Arberesh(Old Albanian version) and the Dimotiki came from the Byzantine Era (Ecclesiastical language and life). And many of the Words still are present on Modern Albanian language like Stoli-s e ecc. (Some like Gitones -Gjitone-Fqinje jan ne zhargon)
@tassosantiochos
@tassosantiochos 4 месяца назад
IN ESSENCE EVERYTHING IS THE GREEK.
@massielur
@massielur Год назад
Why does Lidia have a peruvian accent in english?
@Traianos_St
@Traianos_St Год назад
That's Italian accent.
@pickacard4474
@pickacard4474 2 месяца назад
This is so touching to watch ❤️ 🇬🇷 🇦🇱
@nikorontzocos9072
@nikorontzocos9072 10 месяцев назад
I am surprised, for priest it is not pfifti in arbëresh and closer to Greek
@CHARISKARAS
@CHARISKARAS 27 дней назад
The greek histori is here !!!
@mickeymouse1697
@mickeymouse1697 6 месяцев назад
Arbaresh is Middle Ages Rural Greek
@southepirote7676
@southepirote7676 2 месяца назад
@@mickeymouse1697 Greeks are Albanian. Pelasgian were proto Albanians the first that inhabited the aegean basin before the Greeks. With DNA tests now updated on Myheritage the truth is slowly coming out that Greeks are lost Albanians. Ok Mickey Mouse? 🐀
@alb-333
@alb-333 8 месяцев назад
geitoniá comes from Albanian "NGJIT-Ngjitur" wich means "Very close" or "Next to us"
@HladniSjeverniVjetar
@HladniSjeverniVjetar Год назад
It would be interesting to compare Arberesh and Arbanasi language from Croatian Albanians from the Zadar area.
@ohrid59mk76
@ohrid59mk76 Год назад
Arberesh is south Toska dialect , Croatian Arbanasi is Gheg northern dialect ( Arbanasi are from Shestan Krajina in Montenegro /Albania border region .
@tesseg
@tesseg Год назад
Very interesting!
@ginaibisi777
@ginaibisi777 Год назад
Parakalo in Albanian means to give way to someone ore to something
@dios1ish868
@dios1ish868 Год назад
Not to give away, it's just what it says, like when you tell someone to go ahead before you-'Kalo Para', like a telling someone 'Please, go ahead' and that's what it means in greek as well.
@kristaps5296
@kristaps5296 Год назад
​@@dios1ish868 Yes, it's a Turkish word, used in all turkic languages, from turkmen to turkalbanian.
@dios1ish868
@dios1ish868 Год назад
@@kristaps5296 Trying so hard to get away from your real roots. Don't worry, it's engraved on your DNA's. 🤣
@kristaps5296
@kristaps5296 Год назад
@@dios1ish868 I'll never run away from my roots! I am a proud turkalbanian, my ancestors made the long trip from Caucasus to the Balkans in the 16th century! Turkalbania 4ever!
@dios1ish868
@dios1ish868 Год назад
@@kristaps5296 So now is 16 century, not 11? 🤣😂🤡
@Gk-ug6gu
@Gk-ug6gu Год назад
Only gjegje is the Albanian origin word of this video all the others are greek 😅
@broadminded7774
@broadminded7774 Год назад
No is not!
@archon6437
@archon6437 Год назад
Luludi is also an Albanian loan to Greek language but yes all the other words are Greek
@broadminded7774
@broadminded7774 Год назад
@@archon6437 Of course !
@gotshot8355
@gotshot8355 6 месяцев назад
Louloudi also and gjitonia also! Louloudi is not greek! Is loanword from arvanites! Anthos is a greek word for flower! Gjitonia in albanian means....., all together! Gjitonia has no meaning in greek! No offense!!! Love Greece, but this is truth! The others are greek, yes
@erigreca3297
@erigreca3297 5 месяцев назад
Lule Is greek to you ? Buuuuuuhaaa mongol! Dont you see that the video is focused on the similiraties btw Arberesh and Greek. It's not focused on the similiraties btw Albanian and Arberesh cuz every normal persone with a Little bit of brain knows that Arberesh is part of the Albanian language, Tosk dialect to be precise!
@lindaS_
@lindaS_ 8 месяцев назад
Used the same in Albanian: Gjitoni / neighbor Papa - like Lidia's pronunciation / priest stolis / decorate, beautify Lule / flower kurmi / body
@fatmiramino9673
@fatmiramino9673 5 месяцев назад
This is the old Albanian.
@Alexikoua-o2o
@Alexikoua-o2o Год назад
Thats greek
Год назад
What is ?
@Alexikoua-o2o
@Alexikoua-o2o Год назад
@ Just because a language has borrowed words from Greek doesnt transform those words into their own. They are, and will forever be, Greek words.
@southepirote7676
@southepirote7676 7 месяцев назад
@@Alexikoua-o2o There is no such thing as Greek. What is Greeks is based on Latin, Albanian, Turkish and Slavic.
@Μέμος-λ5ζ
@Μέμος-λ5ζ 8 месяцев назад
Arberesh are Greeks.🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷🇬🇷
@southepirote7676
@southepirote7676 8 месяцев назад
Greeks are Albanians 🇦🇱🇦🇱🇦🇱🇦🇱
@Μέμος-λ5ζ
@Μέμος-λ5ζ 8 месяцев назад
@@southepirote7676 Tosks are different of Gegs because of their Greek origin . ''Jaste nga besa jemi vlezzer''' ....this is what old tosks said in the past about Greeks
@Μέμος-λ5ζ
@Μέμος-λ5ζ 8 месяцев назад
@@southepirote7676 Other thing is Arberesh ,another thing is Sqipetars. Similar languages ,different Races. For example Boulgarians and NorthMacedonians. For example Serbs and Croatians. For example Argentinians and Mexicans.
@southepirote7676
@southepirote7676 8 месяцев назад
@@Μέμος-λ5ζ Greek nationalism making every single Albanian as Greek. Bro I know Albanians are tall dark and handsome but calm down a little 😂
@southepirote7676
@southepirote7676 8 месяцев назад
@@Μέμος-λ5ζ Source: Greek nationalist fantasies
@paranormalact888
@paranormalact888 8 месяцев назад
ΠΑΡΑΚΛΗΣ PARKALES... ΡΕ ΝΟΥΜΕΡΑ ....ΣΥΝΘΕΤΗ ΕΛΛΗΝΙΚΗ ΛΕΞΗ.....ΚΛΕΙΣΤΕ ΤΟ ΤΟ ΜΑΓΑΖΙ....
@TelefonoTelefono-u1s
@TelefonoTelefono-u1s 5 месяцев назад
gjuha arbereshe e folur 600 vjet me par nuk ka asnje lidhje me greqishten e 600 viteve me von .greqishtja si nje gjuh e krijuar ka marre shum nga shqipja e vjeter por edhe nga pellazgjishtja .prandaj ka fjal te ngjashme .
@AKRITAS365
@AKRITAS365 2 месяца назад
The Greek language prevails the turkoalbanian language . Ancient Greek is not related to todays turkoalbanian language.
@southepirote7676
@southepirote7676 Месяц назад
So called "ancient Greek" is Albanian language. Do some research on Pelasgians first 🇦🇱
@davidscwimer1974
@davidscwimer1974 22 дня назад
@@southepirote7676cry about it 😢
@petrosmpampalis6097
@petrosmpampalis6097 5 месяцев назад
Similarities; Of course! Your Country was part of Greece!..: Ancient Hepirus! 😉
@southepirote7676
@southepirote7676 2 месяца назад
All of Greece is Albanian. Be sure that many Çam Albanians will fight for and liberate Çameria which European powers took away from us with treaty of London.
@nixter888
@nixter888 Год назад
This is all Greek!
@Ari-cd5gv
@Ari-cd5gv Год назад
Bro, Albanians belong to thr Greek nation. Check modern DNA tests... It's a political agenda to divide Greek folks from Greece (Albanians, Italians, Mikrasians etc.)...
@Notme17111
@Notme17111 Год назад
You do forget that Arvanites made a huge part of Greece war of independence and they had a massive influence these are Albanian words but because of Medival Albanian Immigrants they remained in Greece and Greeks say oh this is "Greek"
@kristaps5296
@kristaps5296 Год назад
@@Notme17111 Yes my brother, they are turkic turkalbanian words.
@katrin715w56w
@katrin715w56w 9 месяцев назад
​@@Notme17111we arvaanites from greece are greece pure greeks descend foem anciend greeks and in history the killers of turkalbos and slav albos like u ! 😅 we saved the greek revolution couse we belong to hellenic famil, who actually the true albos descend too couse grece is our motherland ! Turkalbos and slav albos dosnt belong to albania also not in grecee
@fpointer
@fpointer 9 месяцев назад
My ass
@loridaafrinderin6503
@loridaafrinderin6503 Год назад
The old Albanian language 👏👏
@Usera2324dfre
@Usera2324dfre Год назад
A newborn dialect That comes from the greek one actually With latin .
@andreaberat3355
@andreaberat3355 Год назад
⁠@@Usera2324dfreArbereshe doesn’t come from Greek.It’s a different language.It’s just has Greek loanwords.
@issavisisland9870
@issavisisland9870 Год назад
@@andreaberat3355 . 8:30 dhaskalji na diovasoun Δάσκαλοι να διαβάσουν Teachers are reading Same Greek nouns, same Greek verbs even same Greek prepositions
@andreaberat3355
@andreaberat3355 Год назад
@@issavisisland9870 σημαίνει ο δάσκαλος μας διάβασε ένα βιβλίο όχι ο δάσκαλος διαβάζει ένα βιβλίο.
@issavisisland9870
@issavisisland9870 Год назад
@@andreaberat3355 Don't bother 8:30 Arberesh and rest of the Greeks say : dhaskali na diavasoun Albanians say: mësuesit për të lexuar
@ellhnes3004
@ellhnes3004 Год назад
make a video about similarities between greek and egyptian arabic
@lefisallata206
@lefisallata206 Год назад
More area and arvanitas aren't Greek . They wrongly were called grechi but they are southern native albanian
@jimjim3474
@jimjim3474 11 месяцев назад
southern natives 'albanians' are not albanians
@lefisallata206
@lefisallata206 11 месяцев назад
@@jimjim3474 go and have some tea because u feel cold
@lefisallata206
@lefisallata206 11 месяцев назад
@@jimjim3474 have some xaxiki and you will feel better with Greek brainwashing history lying the world
@jimjim3474
@jimjim3474 11 месяцев назад
@@lefisallata206 naahhh i'm fine
@alondon6950
@alondon6950 Год назад
Lefteria stin Voreio Hpeiro. Free North Epeiros from Albanian occupation.
@dios1ish868
@dios1ish868 Год назад
Ahem? I'm sorry to burst your bubble, but Albanians were called Epirotes by all historians. Also, Leuteria/Lefteria wich means Leu te roi, Born to live. Sounds very much Albanian in its root. 😆
@kristaps5296
@kristaps5296 Год назад
​@@dios1ish868 Preach my turkalbanian brother!
@dios1ish868
@dios1ish868 Год назад
@@kristaps5296 Based on latest scientific DNA studies Albanians have the least turkish impact on Albanians, compared to other countries around.
@kristaps5296
@kristaps5296 Год назад
@@dios1ish868 Obviously, that's because us turkalbanians are the quintessential Turkish specimens to begin with!
@dios1ish868
@dios1ish868 Год назад
@@kristaps5296 Well, as a GreekTurk, which makes more for your DNA, it's very easy today to find out with a DNA test. 😆
@yvonne530
@yvonne530 8 месяцев назад
The Greek Language can be easy deciphered through Albanian Language. She has an absence of morphemes and needs some from 366 embryomorphemes of Albanian Language. The Iliad and the Odyssey have many Albanian words and it wasn't be able to be written by Homer, he was a blind rapsod. Don't forget that 90% of the old population at that time in Epirus were Pelasgians/ Albanians and 10% Helens. (after osmanic registers) The old Sanskrit Language was based on the Albanian Language, old Greek and Latin too. Sanskrit, old Greek and Latin are dead languages, from the old languages is alive only the Albanian Language, it has strong roots, especially the Gheg dialect. It is the cosmic language, close to the ancient symbols. You find all the symbols on the Albanian folkloric costumes named "Xhubleta" - Unesco World Heritage. Leibniz and others dreamed to create an universal language, but this is not possible because the universal language - Albanian Language - exists. References: "The mesianic role of the Albanian Language" by Petro Zheji, " Albanian and Sanskrit" by Petro Zheji, "Thoth spoke Albanian" by Giuseppe Catapano, "The Enigma" of Robert D'Angely, "The Greek Language, this daughter of Albanian Language" by Agron Dalipaj. Other References: Bopp, Johan Georg von Hahn, Holger Pedersen, Benloew, Joseph Ritter von Xylander, Stier, Schneider, Rozny, Georgiev, Majami, Robert Elsie, Niko Stillo.
@Usera2324dfre
@Usera2324dfre 5 месяцев назад
Ὄμνυμι Ἀπόλλωνα ἰητρὸν, καὶ Ἀσκληπιὸν, καὶ Ὑγείαν, καὶ Πανάκειαν, καὶ θεοὺς πάντας τε καὶ πάσας, ἵστορας ποιεύμενος, ἐπιτελέα ποιήσειν κατὰ δύναμιν καὶ κρίσιν ἐμὴν ὅρκον τόνδε καὶ ξυγγραφὴν τήνδε. Please translated etymology words by word Is from Homer's Iliad
@davidscwimer1974
@davidscwimer1974 Год назад
Well you see Albanians even steel other peoples languages 😂
@southepirote7676
@southepirote7676 7 месяцев назад
Talking about yourself there, Greeks stealing other people's languages as usual and claiming it as theirs 😂 The notion of Greeks being ethnically homogenous and direct descendants of the Hellenes has been a persistent narrative, often used to foster a sense of unity and historical continuity. However, a closer examination reveals the complexity and diversity within the Greek population, challenging the simplistic portrayal of ethnic homogeneity and direct lineage from the ancient Hellenes. To begin with, Greece has been a crossroads of various civilizations throughout history, including interactions with Albanians, Romans, Byzantines, Ottomans, and others. This rich history of cultural exchanges has inevitably left an imprint on the ethnic composition of the region. Genetic studies indicate a diversity of influences, reflecting the historical interactions and migrations that have shaped the genetic makeup of the Greek people. This diversity challenges the notion of a singular, homogeneous ethnic origin. Moreover, the concept of ethnicity itself is complex and dynamic. It is not solely determined by genetic factors but is also influenced by cultural, linguistic, and historical elements. While the Hellenes were indeed one of the ancient tribes in the region, claiming a direct ethnic lineage from them oversimplifies the intricate processes of cultural assimilation, intermixing, and acculturation that have occurred over centuries. Language, often considered a key marker of ethnic identity, also presents complexities. The modern Greeks language belongs to the Indo-European family but is distinct within this linguistic group. While it has roots in the Hellenic language, linguistic evolution and influences from Latin, Slavic, and other languages have contributed to its unique character. This linguistic complexity challenges the notion of a straightforward, unbroken linguistic continuity between ancient Hellenic and modern Greek. Historical records further complicate the narrative of ethnic homogeneity. The region has witnessed migrations, invasions, and changes in political control, all of which have contributed to the diversity within the Greek population. The medieval period, for example, saw the influx of various groups, including Slavs and Normans, leaving lasting cultural and genetic impacts. In conclusion, the idea of Greeks being ethnically homogenous and direct descendants of the Hellenes is a simplistic narrative that does not fully capture the complexity of Greece's history and the diversity within its population. Genetic, linguistic, and historical evidence points to a more nuanced and multifaceted reality, highlighting the need to approach the question of Greek identity with a recognition of the intricate processes of cultural evolution and interaction that have shaped the region over millennia.
@davidscwimer1974
@davidscwimer1974 7 месяцев назад
@@southepirote7676 yeah can’t be bothered to read you artificial intelligence waste of time 😂 Look simple Albanians are a so jealous of Greeks all they do is go on Greek videos on you tube and wish they where Greeks !
@vasiliosgrekousis8192
@vasiliosgrekousis8192 Год назад
I love these Arberesh people, we're all Hellenic dialects. We're Hellenics... Hellenic is not only Greek, but a culture/identity/language group like Slavic, Germanic, Celtic, etc.
@glaukiaillirian
@glaukiaillirian Год назад
what does ‘Hellenic’ actually mean and how is ‘greek’ the author of this word?
@kristaps5296
@kristaps5296 Год назад
@@glaukiaillirian I don't know about Hellenic, I specialise in turkic languages, like turkalbanian
@glaukiaillirian
@glaukiaillirian Год назад
@@kristaps5296 you are using words which do not exist, such as ‘TurkAlbanian’! This are primary school mistakes.
@kristaps5296
@kristaps5296 Год назад
@@glaukiaillirian Turkalbanian is my glorious ethnicity, take that back!
@gentigenti7752
@gentigenti7752 Год назад
you are Turkish Christians brought from Pontos and the Arberesh have nothing in common with you.
@andreasmpintas9073
@andreasmpintas9073 Год назад
If only Albanians 150 years ago borrowed the words they needed from Greek, today these two languages would be like 90% similar. Even better scenario if they borrowed the vocabulary and grammar of ancient Greek, today Albanian would be the oldest living dialect of Greek together with Tsakonika and Vlahika. Then they could throw out some Slavic and Turkish loanwords from their language to make it purer. But no, they had to go and pick half their words from English and French and the other half from German. That's how much they, the Turks and the super powers of the time like Germany, Austria and Italy, wanted the two countries-nations to be "different" back then. P.S. I hope Martin knows that "Vemi te Hora" (the phrase on his T-shirt) is 100% Greek. Vemi is from the Greek verb "βαίνω", te is short for "εις την/τεν", hora is from "χώρα" = city/village/head village/capital.
@Jason-cu2tz
@Jason-cu2tz Год назад
"grek"
@ilgrandearthas6429
@ilgrandearthas6429 Год назад
Well Albanian is richer from gramatical and phoneticall aspect compared to modern greek, so how can you assert such non-scientific theory? 😂😂 By the way, modern greek and skllavic languages are full of Turko-Arabic words compared to Albanian.
@andreasmpintas9073
@andreasmpintas9073 Год назад
@@ilgrandearthas6429 I can understand very well that your knowledge of the Greek language is non-existent. It's no problem. But not knowing your own language, Albanian, is a big problem. A problem for you, not for me. More than half of your language is Turkic and Slavic loanwords. The rest is Greek. I'm talking about your basic language. If we see standard modern Albanian, your language is almost extinct and replaced by English. Stop embarrassing yourself and go read a little bit. You watch too many anti-Greek propagandist shows.
@andreasmpintas9073
@andreasmpintas9073 Год назад
@Primo Please buddy... Don't do this to yourself. Stop trying to give Greeks lectures about linguistics. Instead you can ask the Greeks for help you so you can find out more about your own language. Maybe then you could read all the marble plaques in the Albanian museums.
@andreasmpintas9073
@andreasmpintas9073 Год назад
@Primo Sure. The first part Ηελ-Σελ-ΕΛ means bright. The second part -Λας means stone. So "Ηελλάς" is the country of the bright stones. Hέλλην is the human of this country, Ηελληνες is the plural of Ηέλλην. These "stones" are how humans were made by Deucalion and Pyrrha. It's a well know myth, try google it. But linguistically it's a two part word, like i explained above.
@montana3918
@montana3918 Год назад
I did some researching regarding similarities of Albanian words and Homeric Greek which went extinct about 5th century BCE and was replaced by classical greek. And astonishingly some of these words survivied over 2500 years of death and still remain only in the albanian langauge but not in modern greek: 1. Dorë (Albanian): - "dorê" (Homeric Greek) - "cheir" (Classical Greek) - "heri" (Modern Greek) - English: hand 2. Lepur (Albanian): - "lepus" (Homeric Greek) - "zoni" (Modern Greek) - English: rabbit 3. Kale, Kali (Albanian): - "kale" (Homeric Greek) - "poli" (Modern Greek) - English: city 4. Këmbë (Albanian): - "gampê" (Homeric Greek) - "podi" (Modern Greek) - English: foot, leg 5. Gur (Albanian): - "goura" (Homeric Greek) - "koukkoula" (Modern Greek) - English: neck, throat 6. Asht (Albanian): - "Astōma"/"Osteon" (Homeric Greek) - "Kókalo" (Modern Greek) - English: bone, skeleton 7. Krytë (Albanian): - "Kórynē" (Homeric Greek) - "kefali" (Modern Greek) - English: head, head helmet armor 8. Flamur (Albanian): - "phlamuron" (Homeric Greek) - "simadi" (Modern Greek) - English: flag 9. Zot (Albanian): - "Zeus" (Homeric Greek) - "Theos" (Modern Greek) - English: god 10. Mik (Albanian): - "mikos" (Homeric Greek) - "filos" (Modern Greek) - English: friend 11. Bardhë (Albanian): - "phardos" (Homeric Greek) - "vardis" (Modern Greek) - English: white 12. Bukës (Albanian): - "pêkos" (Homeric Greek) - "psomi" (Modern Greek) - English: bread 13. Dru (Albanian): - "dryas" (Homeric Greek) - "dendro" (Modern Greek) - English: tree 14. Frima (Albanian): - "phrimos" (Homeric Greek) - "prima" (Modern Greek) - English: cold 15. qeni (Albanian): - Homeric Greek: kúōn (κύων), kuōn (κύων), kunos (κύνος) - Modern Greek: skýlos (σκύλος) - English: dog 16. rrah (Albanian): - Homeric Greek: rhaptéō (ῥαπτέω) - Modern Greek: chtypó (chtypó) - English: to sew, to beat 17. rri (Albanian): - Homeric Greek: rhéō (ῥέω) - Modern Greek: menó (μένω) - English: to stay, to remain, to be 18. rronje: - Homeric Greek: rhóngchos (ῥόγχος) - Modern Greek: tóxa (τόξα) - English: spear, javelin, arrow
@kristaps5296
@kristaps5296 Год назад
Wow, I didn't know Homer spoke Turkish
@dios1ish868
@dios1ish868 Год назад
@@kristaps5296 Don't be such an ignorant.
@Hydrogen-Hyperoxide
@Hydrogen-Hyperoxide Год назад
@montana3918.. you are (at least) idiot. Half (if not all) of examples are fake. Why you do this? With fake meaning of words, what try to prove?. You are not the only one, I have seen many Albanians do that, even in Quora. I am absolutely sure that you do not know Greek (ancient or new) at all. Yet you pretend to be an expert, when you are simply a liar.
@denissaliaj9459
@denissaliaj9459 Год назад
@@kristaps5296which of the words is of turkish origin?
@kristaps5296
@kristaps5296 Год назад
@@denissaliaj9459 All of them, as proved at the comment above. They are all ancient turkalbanic words.
@d3r4g45
@d3r4g45 Год назад
Arbëresh is just Albanian. Greeks didn't want to admit an Albanian minority there, so they deny it being called Albanian and call it "Arbëresh". Just like they didn't want to admit Macedonian minority so so they deny it being called Macedonian (with the story that *they* greeks are both greek *and* macedonian in the same time). It's the same playbook of denying people and languages.
@nerdo5570
@nerdo5570 Год назад
Arberesh live in Italy, nothing to do with Greece anymore. If you're talking about Arvanites, they weren't a minority but an integral part of the country. Would any country have a Prime Minister from minority populations? I highly doubt it, but there were Prime Ministers in Greece of Arvanite origins, like Georgios Kountouriotis for example. Why should we recognise someone as a minority and marginalise them just because you say so, even though said people feel more Greek than Greeks? There was never a Macedonian minority. There were Greeks, Bulgarians, Jews and Turks in Macedonia. Now why those Bulgarians started calling themselves Macedonians is another story. And yes I'm both Greek and Macedonian cause I come from Macedonia region and I'm Greek. As a Greek from Thessaly is both Greek and Thessalian, from Thrace both Greek and Thracian etc. There is a muslim minority in Greece and it is called a "muslim" minority and not "Turkish" because those muslims are Pomaks, Turks and Roma. Should we call Pomaks Turks? Would you like to be called a Turk just because you're muslim? You say that "we deny people and languages" when you do that exact thing. I've heard from many Albanians that there are not Greeks in Albania and that the Greeks living there are just deluded Albanians who deny their identity. Lastly, just a friendly advice, look in the mirror first before you start accusing others.
@nerdo5570
@nerdo5570 Год назад
@@ADprimo I think you romanticise the situation in your mind, that after all those centuries, they somehow had an Albanian conscience and they were just "Philhellenes, admiring Greek culture". Let me tell you this, they only feel Greeks. And because I'm sure you've never met an Arvanite in your life, I'll give you inside information from my cousin who has distant Arvanite roots from her father's side. Arvanites have been here for centuries, all they knew as their country, their home was Greece. Her grandfather didn't even know how his ancestors came here, he only knew that his family spoke a different language at home. They never told him why and how, I doubt they even knew themselves. He first learned about where Arvanites come from from a book. When you ask him what ethnicity he is, he'll immediately answer Greek. The first time he met an Albanian in his life was in the '90s. He was curious at first but he said he didn't feel any kinship and connection and he thought they were different. I don't know how similar Arvanite and Albanian is but he said they couldn't understand each other when he was speaking in Arvanite and the other in Albanian. About your other statement that Greeks didn't even know what a Hellene was... well I think you've been misinformed. Hellene fell out of use with the rise of Christianity. It endede up meaning the pagan, the one who followed the old ways and the Christian Greeks didn't want to associate with it. That's why they favoured the name Romios. This doesn't mean that they didn't know their connection with ancient Greeks, they just didn't want to associate with the religion.
Год назад
Please do not erase our identity. We are Italian, not albanian, and we came from Morea: we are part of an Albanian langauge family, we’re not JUST albanian!
@PSquaiella
@PSquaiella Год назад
@you came from south albanija and himara also from todays epirus
@kristaps5296
@kristaps5296 Год назад
​@@PSquaiella Himara = 🇬🇷
@vasiliosgrekousis8192
@vasiliosgrekousis8192 Год назад
So cute!!!!
@arvitkopliku7232
@arvitkopliku7232 Год назад
Albanian, I haven’t heard any of these words.
@SimpleManSweden
@SimpleManSweden 11 месяцев назад
ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-gwckesQAM2A.htmlsi=kQ87wcHbDq3tGa_K This is the video with Albanian words.
@beratmaliqi5445
@beratmaliqi5445 8 месяцев назад
Dhrom - ( DREJT in Albanian) STRAIGHT geitonia - ( GJITONE in Albanian )NEXT TOO for neighbour Parkales - LUTJE in Albanian ) PARA KALO actually in Albanian means go infront of me (. Like thank youuu your welcome ) loludi - LULE in Albanian for flower kurmi - TRUPI in Albanian for Body gjegje - Degjo in Albanian for Listen
@ginaibisi777
@ginaibisi777 6 месяцев назад
Me shumë lule. Lulet janë shumë të bukura🎉
@ramazanakcan4878
@ramazanakcan4878 Год назад
Zehf xweş bû..
@liljanavoci4647
@liljanavoci4647 12 дней назад
It sounds Tosk Albanian All Arvanites it’s Albanian .. The Greek was the Tosk and the Kosovo was Gegë that means Tosk and Gegë Sound Albanian ,Illirian ,Dardan ,Teut , Arberi,etj
@giogate1334
@giogate1334 3 месяца назад
Albanian language basement is tye ancient Greek thats why are so similar
@knuknarot
@knuknarot 4 месяца назад
History lesson to the ignorance: todays place name we call Albania originate from the 12th century which was given by the pope in order to get a hold to the eastern roman empire(Byzantine).The original name is Dyrahion.The Arvanites are Greeks sub culture which they do a big role in Greek unrepentance war. Any Arvanite in todays Italy that believes he or she is an Albanian it is because of Italy's propaganda on the 19th century .Italy did that because they wanted to pass the mare nostrum policy. Due to that policy Greece was not able to intergrade the north Epirus part. If Greece was integrate North Epirus She will will be able t command the entrance of the Adriatic sea and that goes against the mare nostrum policy of Italy. Arvanite was is and will ever be Greeks. Go to the biggest DNA company on the world myheritage and check the Albania map 85% greek dna
@gentigenti7752
@gentigenti7752 4 месяца назад
The Arvanites are Albanians and not Asians like Pontiani Karamanli Pomachi Armenians Slavs deported to today's Greece because they are Orthodox. Go tell these tales to ignorant people like you
@southepirote7676
@southepirote7676 3 месяца назад
Greece is a fake nation created artificially by Britain, France and Italy. Not only Southern Epirus but all of Greece is Albanian land. Çam genocide doesn't forget.
@southepirote7676
@southepirote7676 3 месяца назад
Mitsonazi bots in action
@knuknarot
@knuknarot 3 месяца назад
@@southepirote7676 Ουδείς αχαριστότερος του ευεργετηθέντος
@gentigenti7752
@gentigenti7752 3 месяца назад
you are a ridiculous invention of the 19th century with leftovers of Asian populations such as the Karamanli, Bafrali, Pontiani, Pomachi, Slavs, Gypsies,armenian and other deported to the land where you live today. You have no connection with the ancient past. You have stolen everything from the Arvanites who have the blood of the Albanians.Arvanites,Arberesh,Arbanas,Arnaut are all albanian and are only a stupid christian turks
@ViktorYzeiri
@ViktorYzeiri Год назад
That’s very sneaky from that guy who says that he is native greek,of course he knows ALBANIAN language that’s why he uses wards that they are the same in ARBERESH (or ALBANIAN) and in GREEK Too . Find what does it mean GREECE ,who put that name to you and when. I call that propaganda about that grasso language and the connection that his “NATIVE GRASSO LANGUAGE “ has with ARBERESH (ALBANIAN).By doing he the sneaky GRASSO Guy wants to say that ARBERESH are GRASSO. Of course some of them are ORTHODOX BYZANTINE, But ALBANIAN speaking orthodox. Now you ARBERESH guys by accepting that you loose identity and with that you will lose the personality, Integrity, you will lose the thinking as progressive humans ,and many more l want to say. You will lose the poetry that a language has.
@klaritarapo
@klaritarapo 4 месяца назад
gjegje eshte i gjuhes shqipe origjinale DAkort
@illyria8119
@illyria8119 Год назад
Gjaku 🇦🇱♥️♥️♥️♥️
@moutsatsosa
@moutsatsosa Год назад
There 3 are speaking the exact same language in different dialects.
@GeoBBB123
@GeoBBB123 Год назад
Interesting that the Ypsilon was clearly still pronounced like an 'u' in Greek 500 odd years ago before the ancestors of the Arberesh departed from Italy.
@chrisg.k487
@chrisg.k487 Год назад
A lot of greek words. 😂😂😂
@southepirote7676
@southepirote7676 7 месяцев назад
Yes..... Sayonara is Greek word too 😂
@chrisg.k487
@chrisg.k487 7 месяцев назад
@@southepirote7676 No..... It's Albanian Illyrian Pelasgian. 😂😂😂😂
@southepirote7676
@southepirote7676 7 месяцев назад
@@chrisg.k487 No no, it's definitely Greek. Uranus is Greek too 😂
@chrisg.k487
@chrisg.k487 7 месяцев назад
@@southepirote7676 Greek is Greek. Albanian is Albanian. And "papas =priest" it's Greek. The Albanian world is prift.
@Jessi_apo
@Jessi_apo 4 месяца назад
​@@southepirote7676back to school
@Met4lN1kos
@Met4lN1kos Год назад
In essence, they speak Greek
@2024greece
@2024greece 11 месяцев назад
Its insane that there are greek words in their language? What does it mean Arberesh? Did you even know anything about them? If you search about them or hear a full conversation i doubt if you understand anything.
@ΝίκοςΜπέτσης-ΗΠΑ
@ΝίκοςΜπέτσης-ΗΠΑ 11 месяцев назад
Arberesh = Αρβανίτης = Albanian. They are Albanian speaking populations that migrated first to Greece (Peloponnese or More as it was known about 600 years ago). It is unknown how long they stayed in Greece, but later some of them migrated to Southern Italy and Sicily (coincidentally in what was Magna Grecia). So their language is Albanian, but it is heavy influenced by Greek. From an Albanian standpoint, you can evaluate which layer of Greek influences affected them vs the current modern Albanian speakers. Example: Giatros and Dhaskal are known in Albanian as they are present in Modern Albanian too (considered archaic now) but parkales is a purely borrowing from their presence in Greece. Just FYI, 170 years ago, Albanians and Greeks were considered «ομογενείς» from both sides of the current modern borders.
@katrin715w56w
@katrin715w56w 9 месяцев назад
​@@ΝίκοςΜπέτσης-ΗΠΑarvanites arberesh = both hellenic with greek southern italian and a bit of albanian identity! The most of us with greek and italian identity ! The true is albanians are also hellenic 😅 the term arvanitis comes from a city of arvanon which was inncentral albania 😅
@alb-333
@alb-333 8 месяцев назад
​@@katrin715w56w 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@southepirote7676
@southepirote7676 8 месяцев назад
Yes, the whole world speak Greek. So do the Chinese. And also the sound of clapping Greek cheeks 😂
@drinidrini7839
@drinidrini7839 Год назад
Ecco perche la nostra lingua è cosi bella e meravigliosa. Arbereshet in Italia lo parlano ancora dopo 500 anni, i greci lo parlano da sempre.
@arbenqarri359
@arbenqarri359 3 месяца назад
😂😂😂Greeks and Greeks did not exist. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Markos_Botsaris Today's Greeks learn Albanian-Greek invented by Markos Botsaris🇦🇱 in 1809. That's why Greek has many Arbëresh and Arvanite words that are the same language that today is called Albanian🇦🇱
@lolita239
@lolita239 Год назад
Parkales/parakalo = to supplicate
@cla1988
@cla1988 9 месяцев назад
I am from the largest city in southern Albania, Vlore. All the words in Arberesh and Greek that have been spoken are common and everyday phrases in the Albanian spoken in southern Albania. Perhaps the accent changes slightly, but the language and words remain the same.
@frimox
@frimox 20 дней назад
What are you talking about ???
@cla1988
@cla1988 20 дней назад
@@frimox that all 3 the same
@steliopapakonstantinou674
@steliopapakonstantinou674 Год назад
Well, they only rephrase Greek words! It's not like there are related languages, or originating from the same language like romance languages or Slavic ones or the Germanic ones!!!
@Jessi_apo
@Jessi_apo Месяц назад
@@steliopapakonstantinou674 forbidden from albanian konsoulat
@georgekiriak7027
@georgekiriak7027 Год назад
Those people migrated in Italy before or during the Ottoman conquest of Greece took place . This proves how close Greeks and Albanians were in those eras under the Empire understanding it as one country . Those peoples lived as friends for centuries . Now many are consumed by extreme nationalistic propaganda(see the comment section) and fight over silly things trying to separate the two peoples... But how can you separate those that lived together for centuries?? its natural to find common ground and similar traditions. Trying to separate it and create nationalistic hatred is unnatural to them . To the normal people at least Lol
@alb-333
@alb-333 8 месяцев назад
these words are used and have been used by Albanians in Albania, Kosovo, and Macedonia!
@mickeymouse1697
@mickeymouse1697 6 месяцев назад
ISLAM and COMMUNISM
@sp2558
@sp2558 4 месяца назад
they where not friends they where one people... albania is a modern invention and has always been used a proxy by foreign interests...
@lastsamuraial
@lastsamuraial 4 месяца назад
@@sp2558wtf are u talking.Albanians are Illyrians,not like you whatever nation church created.
@Jessi_apo
@Jessi_apo 4 месяца назад
Ποια Μακεδονία εμείς οι αγράμματοι ξέρουμε ΜΙΑ
@ginaibisi777
@ginaibisi777 Год назад
I would be interested to have all Albanian dialects of the Balkans, including Çam, Arbëresh and Arbanasi.
@aurora_b
@aurora_b Год назад
Don't forget the biggest one, Gheg.
@ylliriaalbania326
@ylliriaalbania326 10 месяцев назад
​@@aurora_b😂😂😂😂
@albarmy1
@albarmy1 7 месяцев назад
@@aurora_b the shittiest one, it is obvious arbereshe is closely related to tosk dialects
@ginaibisi777
@ginaibisi777 6 месяцев назад
​@@aurora_bGheg is a dialect and Arbreshi , Abanasi, Arvanites, Epirotes, Dalmateans and Dardanians are now known as modern Albanians.
@mickeymouse1697
@mickeymouse1697 6 месяцев назад
@@ginaibisi777 EPIROTES ARE 100% ANCIENT GREEKS , WAKE UP
@bantorio6525
@bantorio6525 Год назад
... they're not similar at all ... except for a few words ... but that does not mean they're similar ...
@santosh-un2bj
@santosh-un2bj Год назад
Fantastic video sir, with very lovely guests. Excellent for educational purposes and learning about historical accounts. Well done to everyone 🎉
@panostsif7208
@panostsif7208 Год назад
I wanna travel to Sicily and visit these places where people speak Arbëresh! I new nothing about this Albanian dialect. ❤
@SimpleManSweden
@SimpleManSweden 11 месяцев назад
They are people who moved to Italy because of ottoman empire in Balkan. Some of them moved from Arberia ( Albania before Ottomans) and some of them from Peloponnesus ( Arvanits , maybe I am wrong about this , I am not sure) It is actually the oldest Albanian dialect still alive and its going to be extinct like Arvanitik in Greece. In Italy very few people speak Arberesh ( mostly old people) and in Greece too ( it is spoken mostly by old people)
@Bennov26
@Bennov26 9 месяцев назад
lol Arbersh (Italy) Arvanitis Greece, Arrnaut Turkye,,is all an Albanian dialect ,,if you from Greece easy u can find north Greece or so many islands or Peloponnese that old people still speking the Albanian dialect of Arvanitas...we Albanian have e very very beautiful song from Morea(Pelopones) is more then 500 years old id called " Moj e Bukura More.....ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-KMt5kYjsTgI.html
@beratmaliqi5445
@beratmaliqi5445 8 месяцев назад
@@SimpleManSweden i have roots bymyself in Morea ( Peloponez in Greece ) im from Republic of Kosovo 🇽🇰🇽🇰🇦🇱🇦🇱. Krenar qe jam shqiptar
@tulo-i-kashmirasiseemairak2198
@tulo-i-kashmirasiseemairak2198 8 месяцев назад
Really amazing, most of the words exist in my mother tongue.
@gulielmo4034
@gulielmo4034 5 месяцев назад
@@beratmaliqi5445 can you explain to me what moreas means in albanian
@killbill1175
@killbill1175 Год назад
Arbaresh/Arvanites came from Albanian but have greek influence. I have family that are arvanites. Nothing to do with Albanians they are 100% Greek .. arvanites were orthodox christian ..
@denissaliaj9459
@denissaliaj9459 Год назад
What does religion have to do with this?
@8VALONA
@8VALONA Год назад
Sorry but...greeks and albanian have the same dna ....so you say have nothing to do with albanian but you are greek....to be greek will be to be albanian...and to be albanian will be to be greek....dna of albanian and greeks are the same
@albodomi1979
@albodomi1979 Год назад
Typical of those new generation brainwashed arvanites that claim that they have nothing to do with albanian identity, when thats what arvanite/arbëresh means, to be albanian. And most arbëresh didnt migrate from nowadays albania, but from Morea(nowadays peloponesse) which again proves that arvanites/arbëresh/albanian are the same thing.
@emanuelskelaj9843
@emanuelskelaj9843 3 месяца назад
Well they are Albanians, you don’t have to identify with the nationalism or the country but you are still ethnically Albanian and culturally too if you keept the culture
@giorgio1814
@giorgio1814 Год назад
Είμαι από το Χώρα των Ελλήνων
@chrischris3922
@chrischris3922 8 месяцев назад
Say land of Albania then better
@giorgio1814
@giorgio1814 8 месяцев назад
@@chrischris3922 I would say Peloponneso
@albarmy1
@albarmy1 7 месяцев назад
@@giorgio1814 it was called Morea before Greek nazis changed its name.
@inaleka760
@inaleka760 7 месяцев назад
😂😂p😂😂😂
@Jessi_apo
@Jessi_apo 4 месяца назад
​@@albarmy1you are glosolog, in youniversite,of course
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