The media is the same everywhere. 6 corporations ultimately control the entire global mass media, and none of those are actually from or based in the UK, by the way.
UK nurses earn 33,000 GBP a year. The migrant workers earned 1 USD a week.. - working in extreme heat, in extremely dangerous conditions, and had to live in a box with 8 other men. They then had their passports taken from them so they couldn’t leave. One deserves Huge criticism the other isn’t even in the same conversation. But you already knew that.
@@ryanflood635 the England team had their kits made by poverty stricken Bangladeshi kids who were paid just few quid, while selling them well over a hundred quid. is that not double standards?
He is using a his platform to voice issues that are needed.That's the only reason why the WEFs Sunak bot responded, because he doesn't want his corruption exposed and he knows Neville has influence. Just because he's working in Qatar, In his profession, doesn't mean that he can't call out inequity in Britain.He's a British citizen, so you can do something about inequity and corruption here. Even if he calls Qatari corruption out, he can't do anything about It, that's up to their own citizens. Regardless, even if somebody is being hypocritical, doesn't mean the issues they are talking about don't need to be addressed.If you'r a citizen in the UK right now, if you don't get this Tory party out ina the next election, there will be no services, or rights left, That you take for granted by the end of their next term. Besides, It's pedantic to call him a hypocrite, because he has called out Qatari and FIFA corruption, in the past, if not at this moment
@@DeeDeeDanone piers Morgan got verbally battered and spat his dummy out 🤣 he got called out for his pathetic fan boy interview, couldn’t take it and tried to make childish little insults cus he got triggered and shown up 🤣
Let's not forget the first hour of BBC's world cup game coverage when all they did was complain about Qatar and skipped the opening ceremony very poor form
@@mazharul mate pop in to Leicester Square, 20-40 Uber drivers laying on floor next to mice & rats eating there lunches! Than they go home in barking, where 15-16 sleep in rooms! UK what r u talking about! Where r the human rites????
Gary Neville comparing Qatar immigrant workers to British workers is ludicrous, he is also a steaming hypocrite, taking the Qatari shilling (i.e. millions) with alacrity.
Why is it ludicrous? You're all hypocrites lol. Speak to actual migrant workers in Qatar and you'll hear a vastly different story than the one the British media is pushing. You have literal slavery going on in the Midlands with Eastern European and South Asian workers in sweatshops and brothels but noone bothers talking about them. Migrant workers are in Qatar because the quality of life there is far superior than they'll get anywhere else and they're able to make enough money to sustain families back home. The UK has far worse problems than Qatar does; supporting dictatorships around the world, funding wars, invading the world, domestic abuse in the UK is off the charts, teen pregnancies, broken families, alcoholism, drug abuse, ridiculous homelessness rates, child poverty, record number of people using food banks, etc. The moral high horse taken by the English is hilarious
@@randymarsh2901 far play for not toing the party line. I'm on the opposite side of the political aisle. I actually agree with a lot of what he says, but he is way off with this one.
Imagine Simon Jordon accusing someone else of being full of their own self importance !!! There is no one else in sports more full of his own self importance than Simon Jordon.
I don't think this is right. He might come across that way from time to time but its only because he's confident that what he is saying is correct and he usually is
That left wing labour boy wouldn't dare go the show. He would torn apart on every level. Gary neveille needs to look at his own ethics with all his businesses and the blood money from Qatar
I beg to differ! Why are you so sure? Also, a debate in what? Too many talksport fans mistake being articulate for being smart, the two are not the same!
Exactly! Underrated comment. Simon Jordan will be happy to become a billionaire if he could so his rubbish bias is obvious and the way he described Corbin followers is offensive!
Oh come on. I bet it wasn't like he spoke about the uk government. Gary tried telling people only 3 migrant workers had died once he was on the Qatari payroll.
but if you are from the UK and you are working the UK you have a CHOICE what job you do. Qatar is taking advantage of other nations in regards to workers rights and pay from poorer nations - the UK and Qatar are not to be compared at any point. Its complete deflection from Gary Neville
As Simon Jordan said, GN is right to have an opinion and we have freedom of speech in this country for him to have one. But he's also pointed out that he's a hypocrite for having a platform to express an opinion on Qatari TV and not doing so and then doing so on British TV when it wasn't the time or the place for it, it was a football world Cup final. And Gary Nevilles views on politics to be honest, are to be taken with a pinch of salt.
We need Gary Neville and Simon Jordan to have a proper grown up debate. That would be absolute box office. Two big personalities with something to say.
@@niallireland2940 Neville started as a pundit for the 2011/12 season with Sky, over 10 years so you are saying that counts for nothing? He was active way before AFTV even started so that argument is completely nonsensical
Simon would probably fold like a deck of cards like he did against Piers Morgan and Nasser Al-Khelaifi. Simon's good at giving it the big 'un in the studio there but when it comes to the crunch he doesn't have the minerals to back up his big gob and strong opinions.
simon shamelessly claimed that ten hag suits were too big and indicate its relevance to coaching credibility so that makes two wally between you and gary
Broadly agree with Simon’s take that it was an inappropriate venue for political views. But to call Neville a Trotskyite is a bs. Trotsky was a revolutionary communist. Speaking up for worker rights and pay doesn’t make you a commie
@@StandardsFC Sorry mate, we are all sick and tired of these hypocrites. They destroyed functional government to reach this level and yet they are still poor. Look what they did to Iraq and Libya?
Great speech from Neville. Everything he said is correct. Workers rights are always under attack from tories. Establishment always want to keep politics out of things that embarrass them. He knows what he’s talking about. Politics is in sport as it doesn’t take place in a bubble. It takes place in the real world. If people don’t stand up for rights in uk. We will end up in the same place as Qatar. Simon doesn’t know what he’s on about
It appears SJ has an agenda against Neville calling him a Socialist and Corbynite. Neville has the courage to speak about political issues. Neville is a UK citizen living in the UK. He has every right to speak about issues in the UK. He clarified his position regarding the situation in Qatar. Yes, he doesn’t agree with everything that is happening there but at least he’s willing to answer and highlight these important questions and topics. Sunak has every right to be triggered considering the situation he and his peers have put the UK in. SJ should humble himself and not assume he’s won every debate and discussion on talk sport.
@@Kronthedon2333 when you get asked the question relating to issues in the UK or Qatar on a sports broadcast channel or show then he has the right to answer. That is all he did. I don’t understand the big issue here. I don’t understand why everyone has to be a snowflake. Some people and politicians expect footballers, ex-players and pundits to speak on political issues for their own agenda. When they do and it happens to be against what they stand for then they are vilified. So much for freedom of speech.
@@MrBannystar what did he say that appeared to be so wrong. Speaking up on real issues in the UK? We’re too busy speaking about issues in another continent that we don’t look at internal issues at home? Think you need to calm down and sleep on it.
@@YouAintGotNoTegridyBoithe UK normal people are worried for nurses and rail workers, only people not concerned are Torys pushing towards privatisation
I think Simon should have focused on the point Gary made than his person. It is a poor way of getting your point through when all he does is ad hominem
That's true, Simon is right wing but weirdly he argues like a lefty, immediately calling names and throwing labels around. He's a walking contradiction in many ways.
@@scottanonymous798 I'd love to see a celebrity boxing match between Simon Jordan and Gary Neville. Neville would obviously win and it'd be a great watch! 😅
@Freedom For Our Sons Royal deaths would have to be included too mind. Anything forced on players should be forbidden. However, players can gesture and speak out about what they want and will be solely accountable for it. I'll agree to that.
The problem is that Sky have completely overhyped Neville and act as if everything he says should be put in a Bible. If Neville came on the Talksport morning slot, Simon would destroy him
When he got announced to join sky that year I was sat with my girl and was like oh no anyone but him... had to mute him for years and can't stand the sound of his voice
That's funny though because Simon's fans seem to think everything _he_ says should be put in a bible. I'm free of all that shite. I don't like Jordan or Neville, they can both do one.
I've gone the other way. Used to have respect for him, but Simon has changed all that over the last year or so. I cant respect a serial, unrepentent hypocrite!
The whole narrative about Qatar was about politics and human rights and not about football. I'm no fan of Neville but as soon as he mentions politics and a human right to fair pay in an unequal society in the UK he gets told to stick to football. The absolute hypocrisy is mind blowing
@@supercriceto from what I gathered it wasn't really comparing it to Qatar but talking about pay as a whole and the unequal distribution of wealth in every country. The amount of working people that rely on food banks in this country is a scandal and constantly gets swept under the carpet. I work for a housing association and the amount of teachers and nurses that come looking for financial help is disgusting. This is in the UK. So in my eyes it should be compared and discussed on a similar level the way we talk about Qatar.
Don't be silly, Neville would walk over him. Jordan is just a posh boy who has no idea what it's like to struggle. Neville is a champagne socialist yes but at least he campaigns for decent causes rather than posh tory boys who hide money away in foreign climes...!
@gillie-monger9094 and so it shouldn't be. Football has the global platform to make a positive change to society yet the attitude is to act as if the sport is above such trivialities.
@@gillie-monger9094 I agree, but the world has in part attempt to become civil in that time. I don’t see why one can’t push for further change whilst keeping a business working well.
The British media didn't care about critiquing Qatar and were encouraged to do so. But now some introspection on our own country is required and suddenly they want people silenced?
you guys are so amazing in your presentation. keep it this way - different views but challenged - so refreshing and enticing. you guys create discussions worth participating.
@@joshgraham681 and their generous pensions funded by the taxpayer...and cheap leased cars...and in some cases accomodation....it's quite a list of percs.
@Josh Graham it's not true, though, is it? 1 in for 4 hospitals have food banks for their staff, including nurses. Some nurses qualify for universal credit as their wages are low.
Free Speech means Free Speech. Everyone should be able to express their political opinions as long as they aren't discriminatory or harmful to other people.
this has nothing to do with free speech. This is about hijacking a world cup final football show to push your political opinions on the whole nation. he can say what he wants, but by pushing his views on the watching public, when thats not the type of programme people signed up to watch. they wanted to watch football
NOT ONE actual football fan, turns on the tv to watch a football show, and hopes to hear what the pundits think about politics and working conditions. Somewhere along the way, someone has given these football pundits the confidence to believe that we all want to be lectured by them about the world, and that everything they say must be heard by everyone. They have their jobs because they played football, for no other reason. They aren't qualified or educated enough on the subject matter to be broadcasting it to a whole country of people who actually just tuned in to watch football. Gary Neville uses every opportunity he has to preach Labour to the country, and most of the time its on a football show.
Are you seriously suggesting that Neville shouldn't have an opinion? I bet you were one of those who watched the sportswash masquerading as the World Cup. Fair play, but YOU sound like a hypocrite.
@@missshihtzu09 Neville can have whatever opinion he likes, as can anyone, but it was Argentina v France, so not sure what relevance his ramblings hold?
Neveille accused Boris Johnson of allowing fans to be racists. Boris, who I am not a fan, was asked about players taking the knee. Boris said it was up to individual players. Somehow, neville translated that to approvig racist abuse. This guy is a thick Manc that made pots of money from Football and has dropped in lucky with property. SKY sacked Le Tiss for his views, they should sack Neville.
@@whitleybayman123 bit late for that isn't it. If you can see the comparison between a nation that has slaves vs a nation that has an economic safety net and free healthcare you're too far gone.
@@alistairmonro he never said the UK is worse than Qatar so that's beside the point. He just pointed out that the UK has its own ongoing problems, if people don't like hearing that then they are the problem
Regardless of whether he should be political or not, comparing the situation in Qatar to the UK is utterly ridiculous and actually quite disrespectful to the human rights issues in Qatar. Yes, it's bad in the UK, but that comparison is ridiculous. Simon is spot on.
I have to agree with Simon. GN is a fool, he can't get paid from beIN & call these people out on ITV. Just look at the over lap about the WC makes no sense.
Gary Neville is 💯 correct, we are only interested in workers rights in England not Qatar. Pay our workers the right wage instead of distracting us with the stuff in Qatar that has nothing to do with the us
They're not happy with Neville working in beIN during world cup. Even Simon would work for beIN sports if they pay him well, nothing wrong with that. Personally i watch premier league on beIN for Andy Gray
@@JackSmith-kp2vs champagne socialist? So arguing for fairness of rights , you must only be poor. But if you are rich, you hate fairness. Don't tell me, you think Marcus rashford should give away his entire fortune to pay for school dinners for kids in holidays to prove he really cares....
Why is he right? Forget about Neville for a second. Give me any good reason why workers should not be given pay increases in lock step with inflatation? Otherwise workers would be poorer every year they turn up to work. While bosses are racking it in. Smug Simon, muppet would argue with himself if there was no other alternative.
@@greaterthanharrowk1679 Who says?. Sport is an entertainment for people to go and watch in peace. Without the likes of Neville lecturing everyone about his own views on politics
@@Fractalchemystical He said NhS workers and train workers were being demonised. They are absolutely not. They’ve been offered 8% and 10% pay rises retrospectively and have declined it.
A time and a place absolutely. As for people dying at the start of England’s Industrial Revolution too. Yes, Simon. But how long ago was that? Are you really implying there couldn’t have been far fewer deaths considering Qatar’s wealth? They could bring in as many of the best planners, consultants, safety equipment and all the rest as they’d like and learn from the past mistakes of other countries before things were as modernised and well known as they are now… Ridiculous, cop-out argument.
What better place to put his views about the state of broken Britain. The drip-drip effect of letting the modern worker know how the government is shafting them is perfect. It was not for the commentators to hear, but the working people tuning in to the show to hear that the rich is getting richer and the poor continue to be poorer because they are not taking action. This is how tyranny starts the weak will suffer from the powerful if they do nothing.
If any footballer wanted to get into politics and was allowed to do so you'd really have to question this, footballers are trained to give robotic responses to the media, only reason a path has even been spoken about regarding Neville and politics
Indeed. The establishment loves a 'useful idiot'; a malleable and ultimately uninformed social justice warrior who can be used as a pawn to unwittingly serve morally antithetical political agendas. The fact that he's a lefty snowflake helps massively with that too. All things considered, Neville has a sterling political career ahead of him!
