SIMON PHILLIPS 33/8 COUNTING!!!  

His work on the 801 Live album is excellent too.

He and Gavin Harrison are gods.

is that class on youtube?

I see what u mean. To me your counting sounds too busy, but has a strong relation with the bass line. What I think is that all this was originated by the 4/4 and only dilated by that part 3/4 3/8. Consider as taking out the last beat from the 4/4 and dilated with one more eight note and that's it. To me his intention was to dilate a normal 4/4. 👍👋👏

@@DavidePettirossi It's really fascinating to see in how many ways one can count that. I guess it also depends largely on how comfortable one is with counting fast. I'm personally able to speak pretty quickly and often played rather fast drum grooves in 7/8, so that's the most natural feeling for me. Having only a very short fast counting phase in 3/8 coming from 4/4 then 3/4 I personally find more difficult, so your 3rd way came the easiest to me (7/8 + 5/4 + 4/4 + 4/4). But yeah great video. Funny exercise to try all these different countings/feelings.

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The time signatures are the ones indicated by the yellow numbers. If you open the description, you'll find 3 different options for counting this. 👍

@@DavidePettirossi ummm, dude? It was a joke.

@@tripbreaker I don't understand you

No, it's not like that. The bass line is in the way I wrote. Everything starts from a 4/4 feel with a stretch of the second bar (3/4 and 3/8). Apart that, it's all in 4/4.

@@DavidePettirossi Hmm. Makes sense. But I would simply say the second bar is a 9/8 instead of saying (3/4 and 3/8) then. :)

We have to follow the beat, not the mathematical aspect. The beat, dictate the way, not 2+2. You can't just add the 6/8 of the 3/4 with the single 3/8 measure: that is not the way music speak to us. For example, I was listening to the beautiful Virgil Donati's "Poland" on the Planet X record. You've got 5/4 and 3/8: you can't just go 18/8, or 2 bars of 9/8 simply because that resolve your math! It's 5/4 plus 3/8. Music first.

Did you try with Moises?

The first part is already written as you do but to me your quarter note will be too slow for the song. The second part; I really don't understand why you have to insert a complicated 9/16 bar...

I do not agree. Every irregular time is binary and ternary pulse composed. So 7/4 does not exist, actually. I wanted to basically highlight that 33 does not exist either since any irregular is a mixture between 3s and 2s. So 5, 7 and 9 (this one with the exception for the compound classifications), 11, 13, 15 or 17 simply do not exists. They are ALL mixed basic signatures.

Seriously, nobody is going to count it/orchestrate it as 33/8 lol.

​What’s the point of telling us this obvious?

I understand what you mean but, no, that .5 can't be used here since you should cut the time unit! It can be done when you have the same pulse or the same time unit.