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Simple Electric Train. Infinite Loop + DRAG RACE. 

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Duracell, Varta or Energizer, Which Will Be the Best?
In this video you'll see two races between aa batteries.
Infinite loop and DRAG RACE.
How to make the simplest electromagnetic train in the world ?
It's very easy. You only need these three parts.
1. copper wire raw
2. battery ( AAA, AA or C )
3. and two neodymium magnets ( it must be larger in diameter than battery )
If you have all the components so fun can start.
#MrMichal #eletrictrain #simpleelectromagnetictrain

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@MrMichalYouTube
@MrMichalYouTube 2 года назад
!!! New Channel !!! ru-vid.com/show-UCakqetATknYDsBvfwFgDQVg
@icedcool
@icedcool 5 лет назад
Duracell for length, varta for speed. Energizer bad.
@MrMichalYouTube
@MrMichalYouTube 5 лет назад
yes 👍
@curiousexistence9372
@curiousexistence9372 5 лет назад
It would be awesome to count the number of loops completed on the longevity tests. That way total work could be measured by multiplying its mass and total distance traveled. An optical counter and an arduino might be a really easy solution.
@Phant0mInfinity
@Phant0mInfinity 5 лет назад
So basically Energizer batteries suck
@HappyBeezerStudios
@HappyBeezerStudios 5 лет назад
Who knows, it might be the best for low power, long duration use. Not enough power to accelerate itself like the others, or keep the weight moving, but the best of the three for prolonged use, like in a remote.
@MrMichalYouTube
@MrMichalYouTube 5 лет назад
but it is the cheapest 😀
@badon6480
@badon6480 5 лет назад
Energizer batteries are the only ones guaranteed not to leak. You sacrifice some battery capacity, but you avoid ruining your devices. The devices are worth a lot more than the batteries.
@twomonkeysayoyo
@twomonkeysayoyo 5 лет назад
This is super interesting. I know a bit about small battery formulation and I was watching the infinite loop with a dismissive eye. It deforms too easy, isn't the same shape each go and is just 'duration'. The duration test would only show you how long it went around in the crappy circle BUT it didn't count the times they went around in that time period. I'm not familiar with Varta but I know Duracell and Energizer are always competing and trying to one-up each other. In the 90's each really pushed on the AA batteries 'power' over 'longevity' to power electronic devices like Walk-Mans (high draw over a short period of time) vs powering a smoke detector (low draw over a long period of time). I assumed that the Energizer didn't last as long in the loop but went more times. The second test (straight line speed) really was surprising to me. I assumed the Energizer would walk away with the win. I think another test like this is in order, maybe a bad batch of Energizers? Also, make the loop more round and stable!
@georgebasilius1036
@georgebasilius1036 5 лет назад
I've measured time of first 3 laps: E - 4,7; V - 4,1; D - 4,2 sec. Duracell - winner, Energizer sucks. Duracell is bit more heavyweight, e.g. have more friction.
@tarantinodavide90
@tarantinodavide90 5 лет назад
Nice. The Drag race test are bit useless since weight has a huge factor to boost up the acceleration received.. Really in that case you are testing the best Weight/Energy ratio but usually that's not what someone looks for when using that kind of batteries. The infinite loop test on the other hand is good because you are testing the accumulated Energy but you have to consider also in this case Weight that has influence on the circuit bending and so on the loss of energy. An accurate test would be the infinite loop with something holding the circuit firmly in place.
@MrMichalYouTube
@MrMichalYouTube 5 лет назад
I agree, but all the batteries have the same conditions
@tarantinodavide90
@tarantinodavide90 5 лет назад
@@MrMichalRU-vid it may seem like that in fact that was my initial thought too. But think about that.. every one has different weight and so every one bends the circuit in a different way (that is a function of the weight itself) and so the loss of energy becomes also a function of the weight. (Imagine.. a lighter battery has little effect on the bending and so approximately all the energy is converted in loops, an heavy battery bends the circuit a lot and at the end it will show less loops than it's potential ones because some energy has been lost). Of course I'm taking this to an extreme (this effect could be irrelevant) but that's the physics behind the test.
@IemonIime
@IemonIime 5 лет назад
Nah. Given that those 3 batteries are probably equal in volume, the weight is irrelevant. The one with the greatest power to weight ratio, will be the preferable battery. The lightest battery, with the most power output, is superior. If weight is added to the battery, in the form of metal or chemicals, it should only serve to provide more potential energy.
@badon6480
@badon6480 5 лет назад
@@IemonIime It serves to prevent leaks in the Energizers. Energizers are heavier because they have a stronger steel casing. That's why Energizers are guaranteed to never leak and destroy your devices.
@IemonIime
@IemonIime 5 лет назад
@@badon6480 If that is true, then the standard build for all batteries should have a leak proof casing considered when manufacturing. That should be the first priority, before power is even involved. If other companies are sacrificing safety for additional power thats not good, but energizer is still a weaker battery as a result. It lost the race, after all. Ive used all three and never had a leak once. However, i would rather use a safer, weaker battery in my electronics vs a more powerful one thats prone to failure.
@obidobi2
@obidobi2 5 лет назад
Would have been interesting to know the actual number of loops each battery made in the infinity loop. Couldn't a battery move faster and do more loops but last less time? Eg. spending the same amount of energy but lasting less time, so you can't tell which one is best from just time alone?
@SagostundenSvenska
@SagostundenSvenska 5 лет назад
Add sports commentary on this and you struck gold.
@zekenelsons2069
@zekenelsons2069 5 лет назад
Ah yes, the MarbleLympics success format.
@MrMichalYouTube
@MrMichalYouTube 5 лет назад
😀
@hussbilbs
@hussbilbs 5 лет назад
Man traps electric mouse in tube until it dies.
@sheridantaylor5922
@sheridantaylor5922 5 лет назад
Cant wait for the enigizer dmca notice
@MrMichalYouTube
@MrMichalYouTube 5 лет назад
😀
@humphrey7079
@humphrey7079 4 года назад
There is something I like about the fact that you just have a box of coiled copper wire
@ianchen23
@ianchen23 5 лет назад
These tests do not consider weight differences between batteries
@lukaskaucik8616
@lukaskaucik8616 5 лет назад
does it really matter? They were all AA batteries of the same size...the difference in weight is not that significant. Or you really care when buying your batteries what weight they are? If they are a gram or two heavier than some of their counterparts?
@ianchen23
@ianchen23 5 лет назад
@@lukaskaucik8616 it's not the weight itself that I cared about, but weight directly impact things like acceleration, speed, friction, and therefore how long they last in these tests. That's why without knowing the weights, the results of these tests don't mean much about the performance of the batteries.
@lukaskaucik8616
@lukaskaucik8616 5 лет назад
@@ianchen23 again, it does not matter, what matter is efficiency, the heavier one should have more energy...if it does not, it still means it is less efficient if it holds less energy per gram of weight...and the test will still show it...
@ianchen23
@ianchen23 5 лет назад
@@lukaskaucik8616 You are right if the load is the batteries themselves. It's not the case if the battery is being used to drive say a fan, where the battery itself is stationary. Or even if you are using the battery in a toy car, most of the weight comes from the car, not the battery.
@lukaskaucik8616
@lukaskaucik8616 5 лет назад
@@ianchen23 I get it but this is a test where three different brands are compared where the most efficient one wins no matter what....and it will be always the one that packs the most electrical charge per it`s weight...
@Mongoose490
@Mongoose490 5 лет назад
I think the infinite loop test is flawed, there's nothing keeping the shape loops consistent other than the tape and the varta looks like it massively deflects the loop compared to the other 2 which would increase friction and decrease efficiency, perhaps if the loop was kept more round the test would be more fair?
@MrMichalYouTube
@MrMichalYouTube 5 лет назад
but all the batteries had the same loop
@iwanttoknowmore
@iwanttoknowmore 5 лет назад
@@MrMichalRU-vid Same loop but how the loop moves while the battery is going would change the friction on each battery. Another thing that would add variations to the test is how centered the magnets are on the different batteries.
@coadyk54
@coadyk54 5 лет назад
@@iwanttoknowmore Also since the Varta is traveling faster it deflects the loop more intensely due to its increased kinetic energy. unless you had miles of straight tube it's tough to draw accurate information. Additionally the initial mass of each battery wasn't taken, the Energizer might be significantly heavier causing increased coefficient of friction, meaning it may be performing more work than the other two with no way for us to visualize it. A simple circuit with meters is a significantly better test of performance than this.
@jamieguthrie1760
@jamieguthrie1760 5 лет назад
@@MrMichalRU-vid but if the Varta is stronger (which the later tests suggest), then it will waste a lot of energy deforming the loop and create more drag. Is there a way you could anchor the loop in place so there is no lateral movement and the tubing can't deform (maybe by glueing it to a baseboard or something)
@bankia6723
@bankia6723 5 лет назад
Yes but i think the error % isnt so great to completely invalidate the experiment. At the very least some tube flexing isnt gonna make it last 10 minutes longer.
@redsquirrelftw
@redsquirrelftw 5 лет назад
I dare someone to try this with an 18650 cell.
@gmula1987
@gmula1987 5 лет назад
How bout a 21700 lol
@thom8045
@thom8045 5 лет назад
I'll see your 18650 and raise you a car battery
@SergeyGalin
@SergeyGalin 5 лет назад
With unprotected 30A max cell!
@tristanalbert3856
@tristanalbert3856 5 лет назад
Duracell's bunny does not lie to me since my childhood. I can live with that
@MrMichalYouTube
@MrMichalYouTube 5 лет назад
😀
@txgunguy2766
@txgunguy2766 4 года назад
Duracell used the bunny first and then Energizer copied it and kept using it when Duracell went to some other ad campaign.
@LuBre
@LuBre 5 лет назад
Real life watermark is the best thing ever
@curiousexistence9372
@curiousexistence9372 5 лет назад
It would be best to randomize which battery takes which parallel track. Maybe the top track just had less resistance, but that kind of error could be corrected by averaging multiple runs across the various tracks.
@gabrieloverfield5361
@gabrieloverfield5361 11 месяцев назад
Expensive for the future, I mean a real life electric gravity magnet train.
@davecor
@davecor 5 лет назад
There is some black magic behind how batteries are formulated. You'll never hear Duracell claim to last 5% longer than Energizer or Energizer claim any number better than Duracell. When you formulate a battery two of the variables you try to balance are current and shelf-life. Batteries formulated for high-drain devices give more current, but don't last as long on the shelf or in devices when not being used. Batteries that have a really long shelf life don't give lots of current. Those are great for TV remotes and clocks, etc. So both Duracell and Energizer (and others) all try to guess what kind of mix of gadgets most people use. They average the number of high and low drain devices and try to average their formulas to hit that sweet spot to work pretty well in most of them. So depending on the devices you have, Duracells may work better in some, Energizers better in others. Also some trivia - In many cases Duracell and Energizer batteries come out of the same factory - they are private labels made by contract manufacturers.
@paralyzed2112
@paralyzed2112 5 лет назад
Do this with the procell, high energy, and industrial lines please
@robinbrowne5419
@robinbrowne5419 Год назад
Awesome 👍 Go Varta Go.
@aaronlowenz
@aaronlowenz 5 лет назад
Got this off reddit
@TINRFD
@TINRFD 5 лет назад
Battery drag race...well, i guess i learned something new today.
@MrMichalYouTube
@MrMichalYouTube 5 лет назад
👍
@jmsaltzman
@jmsaltzman 5 лет назад
Fun video, thanks. Comments criticizing the silliness of this silly test ftw!
@MrMichalYouTube
@MrMichalYouTube 5 лет назад
thanks for support 👍
@eddbopkinss
@eddbopkinss 5 лет назад
This needs to be done on a few different formats..like NiMh batteries, lithium batteries, and niCads. Then against each other.
@Gizmoand23
@Gizmoand23 3 года назад
lithium would win hands down.. They arent nearly as limited by high draw applications :)
@chrishadjipetris6059
@chrishadjipetris6059 4 года назад
I don't think that it's important to buy a battery, because it won the drag race. However, Duracell is the best option, because of its longer life. Varta is probably just a little lighter than Duracell, that's why it won the drag race
@MojoPapiFPV
@MojoPapiFPV 5 лет назад
Would guess the VARTA has a slightly higher voltage out of the box. Did you take a reading with a multimeter?
@SergeyGalin
@SergeyGalin 5 лет назад
They use the same chemical reaction so it is not likely. My guessing is that Varta has lower internal resistance and therefore gives higher current.
@lilj8356
@lilj8356 4 года назад
I see a few people commenting about different factors within each battery, well if they so smart then it should easy to calculate the weith to time factor, right??? Video was good basic informative knowledge mr. Michael 👍👍👍
@aLiXGG
@aLiXGG 5 лет назад
You should test IKEA's batteries, they truly are the best for a fraction of the price
@SergeyGalin
@SergeyGalin 5 лет назад
And they also leak much more often.
@alexandrec.2939
@alexandrec.2939 5 лет назад
I guess it cannot tell anything, since tests are conducted in non normal usage conditions. Right? (Plus no replicates for statistical analysis)
@vincentpadiolleau3438
@vincentpadiolleau3438 5 лет назад
Definetely want to know how many laps did each, this would be a much more relevant information the time it last
@jasminedoty722
@jasminedoty722 5 лет назад
I'm subscribing with the intent to watch the follow up which takes advice from the comments and adds more brands.
@Shadowpriestrox
@Shadowpriestrox 5 лет назад
What my neighbour is doing at 2 am
@MrMichalYouTube
@MrMichalYouTube 5 лет назад
😀
@pau3203
@pau3203 5 лет назад
Duracell wasn't lying when they said they have good batteries
@MrMichalYouTube
@MrMichalYouTube 5 лет назад
👍
@ЮрийБычко
@ЮрийБычко 5 лет назад
магнитное поле, разность потенциалов, механическая энергия... )) Занятно, что-то типа ротора электродвигателя.
@hafizzulqarnain5379
@hafizzulqarnain5379 Год назад
Magnet size ( diameter) should be slightly greater than the battery size. This wire is the same enameled wire which is used for motor winding?
@bigredc222
@bigredc222 3 года назад
I wonder how the new Duracell Optimum would rate? Cool video. Thanks.
@isaaccruz5182
@isaaccruz5182 Год назад
One question, can I try to do it at home?
@privatename7797
@privatename7797 5 лет назад
Would this work for testing duracell vs lithium batteries too?
@dmull6776
@dmull6776 5 лет назад
I do not buy Duracell anymore because the have a strong tendency to leak. I have so many ruined things, mostly caused by Duracell. Some things were also ruined by AC Delco AA batteries. Energizer has never leaked-now I see the downside.
@fadzlenkadir6014
@fadzlenkadir6014 4 года назад
That Adidas...man you're a slav
@Chimpmanboom
@Chimpmanboom 5 лет назад
Energizer management sweatin
@inky_draws__
@inky_draws__ 5 лет назад
How did I get here, I love this
@CasamTheAnimator
@CasamTheAnimator Год назад
You can also see it spinning whenever it's on the path of coil due to magnetic field.
@freddie6969
@freddie6969 5 лет назад
There is another potential problem with EVERY test on this video. To read the "DURACELL" name, this battery is run with the negative end first. The Varta and Energizer batteries both read with their positive end first. In order to be consistent, all three batteries must be put through the tests with either the positive or the negative ends first. This may be of no consequence but it is possible it does make a difference. Too bad. Minimize the variables and validate the test.
@georgebasilius1036
@georgebasilius1036 5 лет назад
I've measured time of first 3 laps: E - 4,7; V - 4,1; D - 4,2 sec. Duracell - winner, Energizer sucks. Duracell is bit more heavyweight, e.g. have more friction.
@benj1116
@benj1116 5 лет назад
Publicite varta,c est tout!
@Aurorita994
@Aurorita994 5 лет назад
Nice! Your videos are the best. I look forward to your next video. 😀
@MrMichalYouTube
@MrMichalYouTube 5 лет назад
Thank you so much 👍
@JJB34T5
@JJB34T5 5 лет назад
So THERE'S where all the copper went!
@RyoHazuki224
@RyoHazuki224 5 лет назад
I guess I'm buying Duracell from now on since they look like they last longer in my infinite loop setups. lol
@MartinchoDH
@MartinchoDH 5 лет назад
Thanks for the info !
@MrMichalYouTube
@MrMichalYouTube 5 лет назад
👍
@jackroman8821
@jackroman8821 5 лет назад
Ok, this is pretty awesome.
@MrMichalYouTube
@MrMichalYouTube 5 лет назад
Thank you.
@JefffRushton
@JefffRushton 5 лет назад
varta master race crew checking in
@MrMichalYouTube
@MrMichalYouTube 5 лет назад
👍
@lethalotto
@lethalotto 5 лет назад
...Neighbours hate this simple trick
@MrMichalYouTube
@MrMichalYouTube 5 лет назад
I have no neighbors 😀
@Reaversword3D
@Reaversword3D 4 месяца назад
Can we say Varta lasts less than Duracell, but despite last 10 minutes less, it's high speed makes last less? Maybe Duracell gives more total energy along time and Varta gives more power... I wonder how many cycles did Varta and Duracell, and how many laps did Varta in 27 minutes and how much Duracell in that 27 minutes... And total number of laps for that 37 minutes of Duracell. Doesn't appear reasonable Varta be able to achieve same number of laps then Duracell in that 10 extra minutes. Duracell for remote controls, Varta for RC cars toys
@Bvalon24
@Bvalon24 5 лет назад
These Duracell commercials are really getting out of hand
@MrMichalYouTube
@MrMichalYouTube 5 лет назад
it's not advertising, I don't take any money for it
@ushappymoments
@ushappymoments 7 месяцев назад
Could you give me the thick magnet information of diameter size?
@HappyBeezerStudios
@HappyBeezerStudios 5 лет назад
So assuming weight is the same, the varta starts with a higher initial voltage and the duracell can keep the voltage up for longer?
@MrMichalYouTube
@MrMichalYouTube 5 лет назад
probably yes
@RebuUber
@RebuUber 5 лет назад
never trustin the Energizer bunny again
@MrMichalYouTube
@MrMichalYouTube 5 лет назад
😀
@pajamatime5476
@pajamatime5476 5 лет назад
It's like rail gun stuff.
@MihadAlzayat
@MihadAlzayat 5 лет назад
That's so so so cool
@MrMichalYouTube
@MrMichalYouTube 5 лет назад
Thank you
@UpNCommerz
@UpNCommerz 5 лет назад
I'd like to see this test with the more expensive variants ie. Duracell Quantum, Energizer Ultimate Lithium, etc. I have also never heard of Vanta before. Not sure that I have every seen them in a store before so maybe they're Canadian or something? Also, would like to see this tested with the cheap alternate batteries that you can get at Walmart and such. The ones that you get like a 30 pack for $8.
@MrMichalYouTube
@MrMichalYouTube 5 лет назад
I thought to try to compare with Duracel and Ikea batteries
@Mihausspb
@Mihausspb 5 лет назад
Дюраселл рулит !
@TheMcstevester
@TheMcstevester 5 лет назад
Plz tell me Duracell wins
@MrMichalYouTube
@MrMichalYouTube 5 лет назад
Yes and no 😀
@Whfox
@Whfox 5 лет назад
The poor AA cells have claustrophobia 🤔
@ЮрійДовбуш-х2у
@ЮрійДовбуш-х2у 5 лет назад
Файно! Молодці!
@Psycrovv
@Psycrovv Год назад
So varta uses more power but last less..and duracell last longer..so its true
@richardboutet797
@richardboutet797 5 лет назад
He should have switched tracks during the drag race
@yuryyu2390
@yuryyu2390 5 лет назад
Are we witnessing beginning of a new Olympic sport?
@MrMichalYouTube
@MrMichalYouTube 5 лет назад
😀
@pajamatime5476
@pajamatime5476 5 лет назад
WOW, i never heard of Varta batteries.
@MrMichalYouTube
@MrMichalYouTube 5 лет назад
Battery Varta are known only in Europe MAYBE
@jordanu1626
@jordanu1626 5 лет назад
did the varta win because the +ve is facing the end point?
@funnypoint15
@funnypoint15 3 года назад
Does work Lithium ion (cylinder's shape) battery ?
@MeargleSchmeargle
@MeargleSchmeargle 5 лет назад
These were all fresh from the package?
@MrMichalYouTube
@MrMichalYouTube 5 лет назад
yes
@lambertj.2892
@lambertj.2892 3 года назад
What gauge copper wire, and where do you buy the batteries? Give us some links please.
@sabdaalam9616
@sabdaalam9616 10 месяцев назад
How to set up the double stick??
@elarcadenoah9000
@elarcadenoah9000 4 года назад
do it with tube pipes
@danielcalleramirez3131
@danielcalleramirez3131 4 года назад
que numero de hilo de cobre esmaltado utiliza
@394Magic
@394Magic 5 лет назад
What length of copper did you start out with?
@pabbicool
@pabbicool 5 лет назад
I hope you don't have neighbours downstairs.
@MrMichalYouTube
@MrMichalYouTube 5 лет назад
no 😀
@ot4ayannbiy790
@ot4ayannbiy790 Год назад
Расскажите это проволка сталистая или медная?
@anti_fragile
@anti_fragile 5 лет назад
THIS IS AN INTERESTING FORM OF RACING. I HAVE NEVER SEEN IT DONE WITH A CHILD IN PLACE OF A ¿DOG?
@bayronportuguez2145
@bayronportuguez2145 3 года назад
DURACELL
@PeterRumanRumo
@PeterRumanRumo 4 года назад
too bad you forgot lidl's AEROCELL
@bsod4144
@bsod4144 5 лет назад
nice video....keep up and u will be big one day
@MrMichalYouTube
@MrMichalYouTube 5 лет назад
👍
@jonataneliasgilberdugo7585
@jonataneliasgilberdugo7585 5 лет назад
Faltó sacar la cuenta quien dió más vueltas en el Infinity loop
@iplz
@iplz 5 лет назад
Is this basic how rail guns work?
@worm489
@worm489 5 лет назад
On a very loose proof of principle, yes- but not really
@elarcadenoah9000
@elarcadenoah9000 4 года назад
bateries should be the same diameter
@Jaxv3r
@Jaxv3r 5 лет назад
You should have done a timelapse instead of skipping it.
@shubhampal499
@shubhampal499 3 года назад
How do to control on this battery
@silent_bob_
@silent_bob_ 5 лет назад
Neat.
@MrMichalYouTube
@MrMichalYouTube 5 лет назад
👍
@Zyron_Guy01
@Zyron_Guy01 3 года назад
I can't belive the battery i used for my Xbox is that bad
@ch3xmix
@ch3xmix 5 лет назад
How fresh were the batteries compared to one another?
@MrMichalYouTube
@MrMichalYouTube 5 лет назад
each battery for each test was new
@thespacecowboy420
@thespacecowboy420 5 лет назад
The better batteries are heavier so they ride slower
@ChaossX77
@ChaossX77 5 лет назад
I've never heard of varta before. Is it a store brand or something? Maybe not big in America?
@MrMichalYouTube
@MrMichalYouTube 5 лет назад
This brand is known in Europe. Maybe not in America
@ChaossX77
@ChaossX77 5 лет назад
@@MrMichalRU-vid got ya. Thanks for the reply. Great vid.
@refink33
@refink33 5 лет назад
please race Amazon Batteries!!
@PoGoTips
@PoGoTips 5 лет назад
Do the loop test with car batteries!!
@MrMichalYouTube
@MrMichalYouTube 5 лет назад
it is probably impossible 😂
@MrMichalYouTube
@MrMichalYouTube 5 лет назад
that's probably impossible 😀
@iliaberiashvili8305
@iliaberiashvili8305 5 лет назад
Duracell
@ined77
@ined77 5 лет назад
Why is the duracell battery reversed with the + side pointing backward? The other two have their + side pointed forward.
@oaschbeidl
@oaschbeidl 5 лет назад
The magnets are probably reversed too. Resulting field strength should be the same, no matter which direction the battery faces, just the direction of the magnetic field will change. So by reversing the magnets and the battery, you get the same resulting force vector on the whole thing.
@capttom7772
@capttom7772 5 лет назад
That is sooo cool!!!
@MrMichalYouTube
@MrMichalYouTube 5 лет назад
Thank you !
@mabutinmarnies.7874
@mabutinmarnies.7874 Год назад
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