Simulating Particle Life 

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from the looks of it, it would take a lot of computing power to run, so it's not likely many people would get as much use from it as he did

​@@BoredYoshi it runs on the GPU so not really

@@holl7w true

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He can make a smaller version

at most of the videos I can see some 'cells' as I would like to call it, eat other particles or cells and it become too big to it splits into 2 cells... Kinda like how cells division work but without the chromosomes bullshits lol

The problem with this is that it is _too_ easy for multiple of the same structure to form from nothing, meaning that there is very little material left for any of them to make clones out of without first cannibalising something ( since they all use unique particles )

Unfortunately he didn't add any sort of particle creation system that the particles can access.

Yeah i feel like i could see that in a more complex environment the material in the outer layer of the “cell” could be attracted to the center layer with a middle layer seperating it, so that if the availability of the materials is right it could form a stable loop of getting big then collapsing in on itself in such a way that it replicates

I think the complex "cells" emerging from this soup of particles and "evolving" to survive in the randomness and chaos is quite cool.

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I personnaly think that what makes us sentient is just the size of our brain, like at one point we became smarter that other animals and we gained concience and emotions to better understand, but we need to understand because we have concience.. idk if it's clear I tried my best to explain my thoughts...

@@darkgobelin4439 we know that, @junhongwu1882 is asking at which point consciousness starts

​@@darkgobelin4439The size of our brain doesn't really affect our intelligence. Popular misunderstatement. Though, i don't really know about what makes us far more intelligent than any other animal. I might guess that it's the amount of neurons in our brain.

@@PEIIIKA It's approximately the ratio of the brain-mass compared to body-mass that makes things intelligent

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Although this is fun and all, I would like to remind everyone that everything in this comment is an egregious misrepresentation of these concepts. I don't believe that OP intended to pass this off as "real", but for those gullible enough, this is absolutely positively incorrect.

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I made my reply before seeing urs

If only more content creators knew these basic secrets to luring in more viewers.

The simulation works a lot like a closed system, or a cave underground. What this needs for it to be more realistic is to have new elements constantly appearing (kinda like energy from the sun hitting the earth)

self replication was achieved, it just involved murder at one point the orange yellow and blue cells were wplit by the red and cyan cells creating two new cells, mitosis being acheived partially

​@@funnifunnifunni mitosis kinda happens through and requires stimuli as seen in the simulation because without it they won't split

@@creature-zf8rs It's less of mitosis, and more of forced cytokinesis, the cell is violently ripped in half by some external structure and particles are somewhat evenly dispersed between the daughters.

To be fair, you’d need to know how quantum gravity works, and no one knows how quantum gravity works lol

@@elementgermaniumhere's the great thing about simulations though! You don't, you just need to know it's effects! This simulation you watched was simplified as hell, and CELLS formed!

They can simulate a human organ I think on the molecular level. One of my prof told that in a lecture 10 years ago. But they had research computation clusters. I bet its even more achievable today.

The question is: will life emerge by doing such a simulation.

@@4984christian It depends on what you mean by "life"- In a simulation like this, I've personally seen simple "creatures" that eventually get so unstable they split into 3+, but more complex ones have a hard time It would be AMAZING to one day see spontaneous generation with our OWN EYES, computer or not!

I wount say they are alive you are seing the equivalent of wind it moves it pushes stuff but its not alive

@@ikosaheadrom *LOOKED* completely alive

@@leniterfortis4832 for they didnt look alive more of just particals moving about, the main thing that makes things alive is the ability to reproduce and metabolism i didnt see any of that in the simulation, i just saw multiple mobile black hole

@@ikosaheadrom You might be taking yourself too seriously.

​@@ikosaheadrom man has never seen a microorganism

What I think can be a gamechanger is mixing colours and their "electronegativity"

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@@ak47ali50 Nope

@@pidx YOU MEAN THAT ALAH DIDN'T DO IT!!!!!

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Actually, they are already there. A cell is alive while it's whole and moving, and dies when it's eaten by another or collapses

@@Aaa-hl6oj that's true but I meant the particles rather then cells

I think it’s sorta on 3d surface lol. It’s all one surface at least. No edges

Way more lag more combinations

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The creature on the bottom left literally exploded from eating too much

​@@bluestone-gamingbg3498it was more like "reproduction" notice the parts formed 2 other of itself, that's similar to how some real cells reproduce.

@@Smiley_404 It seems like the "cell" itself was barely holding itself together, but due to the intense charge of the "membrane" attracting to the "nucleus" (via the bridging orange particles that attract both the "membrane" and "nucleus), it remained stable. Once the "cell" got a hold of more cyan particles (those that make up the "nucleus") the force overwhelmed that of the "membrane" and it violently exploded. From this, the "membrane" and "bridge" particles formed new, smaller "cells", which quickly picked up a "nucleus" of a few cyan particles. This system is unbelievably impressive, notice how the daughters (terminating the use of quotation marks for convenience) without a nucleus of cyan particles form far more fluid structures, as the nucleus was a necessity for a proper membrane to form. Speaking of the membrane, the membrane appears perfectly formed to allow for fission of the cell. At large sizes (when the cell would want to divide), it forms slits that easily allow cyan particles into the nucleus, until the force overpowers the membrane and the cell divides. The life cycle of this structure of particles works specifically to grow in size, until it is too large, then divide. This, however, is similar to a cell being struck by an external structure that forcefully divides it. The major difference here is how the cell itself works to allow for this. The only issue with this cell is its inability to defend itself, despite how impressive its abilities of fission are, most or all of the offspring die before maturity (in which it divides).

We can't really prove that though. Even if the universe chose a different preset, you know what they say; life finds a way, I guess.

​@@alexanderthemidIIt has been proved, well sort of... No tangible research has been done on it but through equations of physics any physicist can tell that if the constants in our reality were slightly different nothing would exist... It's like knowing that if you cut off the base of a cup you can never fill it with water. Everything is just perfectly tuned... perfectly.

​@@Blankoo3di agree with that. But I also have a question is that if all contants are increased 1% in perfect ratio, would the universe will work? (And it's the "interactions of these constants" that shape the world)

​@@alexanderthemidI the problem with "life finds a way" into relation with the fundamental presets is that - they are constants, which mean since the beginning of this universe they have been the same, so it doesn't make sense for the universe to do try and error until they find the perfect values.

@@lixun7390 There is literally nothing saying there can't be multiple universes that may have different laws of physics, and we happened to be in the one that supports this kind of life.

I think "external forces" is inaccurate. Your atoms are pulling on the Earth while it pulls on you. Your atoms are affecting a magnet while it's affecting you. I think there is no real internal vs external distinction, it's all the same field, and you can algebra the + / - signs to describe it from the perspective of this or that object. But that's an arbitrary choice, and exactly the same level of complexity will emerge from exactly the same level of simplicity, regardless of which side you put all the minus signs in your conceptual representation of whatever nature is actually doing.

@@bmatt2626 Basically what I’m trying to say is that there’s more to life than just pulling and repelling. The video only shows how particles will act based solely on pulling and repelling alone.

@@Osprey2511 I think the point is that even with only pulling and repelling, only 2 dimensions, only X compute, counterintuitively complex states and behaviors still arise. Of course it's not "real life", but understanding how "fake life" emerges from simple rules provides conceptual frameworks for people to investigate "real life". Playing with LEGOs isn't building skyscrapers, but if you ask 2 kids to analyze a skyscraper, the one who played with LEGOs will notice different things, ask different questions. These are _models_ of _aspects_ of a thing, and in *2D*, which of course you can't get "real life" out of anyway, because all the twisting and folding of real particle configurations allows for waaay more complexity.

@@bmatt2626 Because you mentioned Lego, I will put this debate to rest. Well played.

Same

Like damn it’s so cool to watch Some particles consume others violently and others kinda passively grow