Sin Eaters & Funeral Biscuits 

I like that 😁

Does Mexico also have a stereotype of good cooks being clumsy?

If it's that good there's 30 min rule and the dead can fight me for it.

@@TV-jn4dh I have never heard that lol.

I'm afraid the dead will be going hungry. In this household, the dog has already called dibs.

adorable 🥰

No, stay .

You better be (Lies! That was a good one!)

No, no, have a seat right over here... Don't mind the shape of the seat, it only looks like a coffin, I promise. ;)

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😂 seriously

@@TastingHistory rapid industrialization and weird spiritual shenanigans. ✨️ Welcome to Victorian England ✨️

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Try Rag Puddings. My Gran used to make amazing beef steak and veg "puddins, wi loads 'o' peppor"

@@zsoltsandor3814 weird spiritual shenanigans is the best descriptor I’ve seen of it😂😂🙌🙌

That's the Way to do it man Irish wake all the wayI want ppl to forget details they were so "happy"

Found the Irish lass!

That's called a Wake. They had one when my great uncle passed decades ago.

I did it for my grandmother, not even a decade ago. In my case it was more of a sin drinker, as I did make a special drink from irish whisky and caramellized milk where you simmer the milk down until the sugar in it turns caramellized. Because milk is the first food, and in that case, the last food to go, as death is also the way to something new, like a birth. Alcohol is also symbolic. It preserves, it leeches aromatics of its properties, it is the death of grain, fruits or whatever is fermented, but also new life because yeast, and then it is cleansed by fire and aged in barrels, made from wood..like something else. She was deserving, not many are. And I still miss her

Please tell us where this was and what year?

​@Gabriel Bernard pretty cool symbolism for the ingredients used in your funeral drink.

No fr

TOTES. Max always has something up his sleeve

Made me pause what I was doing and nod in admiration.

Max is a real one fr fr

You should check out the Tabletop Roleplaying game Geist: The Sin-Eaters. There you play as a person who has died but an incredibly powerful ghost called a Geist stops you from fully padding on. The ghosts strikes a bargain with you. It will use its powers to resurrect you giving you another chance at life under the condition you share your body with it as it too wants another shot at life. If you say no the Geist moves on looking for a new death and you fully pass on. If you say yes however you are resurrected as a Sin-Eater. Biologically you are alive like before, you still need food, you still breathe and age like normal but spiritually you’re deader than a door knob. Because of this you can see ghosts where normal humans see nothing. Your Geist explains to you the horrors of the underworld being a hellish oppressive realm ruled by Death Gods and where ghosts are doomed to go to if they do not complete any unfinished business. As a Sin-Eater you take up a new duty helping the ghosts of the land and fighting back the forces of the underworld. Your Geist provides you with an assortment of ghostly powers called Haunts and a rituals you can use for in your quests. You’re not alone though, even with the help of your Geist Sin-Eaters naturally form groups of like minded individuals called Krewes. A Krewe can be composed of Sin-Eaters, regular humans, Ghosts and even other strange supernatural creatures such as Vampires, werewolves or Mages. You, your Geist and your Krewe are the closest things to heroes to the undead you can find.

Just look at FF14's Shadowbringers. The main enemies there were called Sin Eaters, monsters made from too much divine light basically. And they're all biblically accurate angels.

I'm surprised I haven't heard of more fantasy that covers the topic. It'd be so fascinating!

Sounds like a spin off of Black Butler(an anime about a young boy in Victorian England who made a deal with a demon that became his butler, if you or anyone hasn’t heard of it. It’s good and funny)

Omg yes! I would absolutely watch a Sin Eater anime

🤣😂🤣 I'm more of a savoury man and demand necromince patties for a burger or meatballs. No other cheese than dairy too thank you.

That works out to a lot of cookies.

Go to every wedding in Pittsburgh, they do a potlucked "cookie table"

Especially if they offer milk with the cookies.

*Cookie Monster enters the chat*

Honestly true :')

@@TastingHistory remember: if you ever cut your finger while you're cooking, you should soak it in cider.

@@MrTaxiRob apple juice or cider cider?

@@b-beale1931 who said anything about apples?

@@MrTaxiRob cider is either how Americans refer to Apple juice, or it's fermented apple juice at around 6-8% alcohol

They were all into death and ghosts

@@TastingHistory Big time. Ironic, since so much of the trend was based in Christian beliefs, and the Tanakh/Bible says to avoid that sort of thing. (I could go into detail, but let's just leave it at, 'that time was WILD'.)

@@TastingHistory So it's like Halloween all year round? Sign me up!

@@vigilantcosmicpenguin8721 Your funeral ⚰is on monday 31 okt. at 11.00 am. 🧛‍♂

I imagine the fact that laudanum and coke lozenges were basic medicine is a contributing factor

Along the lines of "my history professor was so old, he'd celebrated dust's every birthday"?

Do you have any idea of where that recording may be found?

There is a movie called The Last Sin Eater. It was on Prime Video. Idk if still is, but it was pretty good!

@@sarah_noodle I had no clue, I'll check it out when I can!

@@celestinemorningstar4851 unfortunately no, and I have no clue if it's been archived in the internet. He just dropped the coolest bomb and them continued on with the lecture

I would add all of it, the soap is for washing sins away.

Only the Risen from the Dead Son of God, Jesus Christ's Holy Blood can wash sins away, but only after you admit you are a sinner, ask humbly that Jesus Christ forgive you of your sins with His Holy Blood that was shed for you and ask Him to come into your heart and soul and be your LORD and SAVIOR and GOD and MASTER. Jesus Christ will do as you ask and then give you Eternal Life, the Holy Spirit to indwell you to guide, teach, and protect you. But you must heed the Holy Spirit's words that come to your knowing and obey them immediately. The Only way to Eternal Life is through believing that Jesus Christ is who He says He is and has done all there is that needs to be done for you to enter Heaven. Anything you do, do out of your love for Jesus Christ and all that He has done for you and all that He promises to do for you in the future, whether you are still alive on this Earth, or are alive in Heaven with Him and all humans who have put their faith in Jesus Christ Alone. We are in the Last Days. Jesus Christ is coming soon in the air as the Holy Bible records to call everyone that has put their faith in His righteousness Alone up into the air to Him and then to Heaven forever, to be with Jesus Christ forever. Jesus Christ died in your place to pay off your sin debt. There is no forgiveness of sins without the shedding of blood. Jesus Christ died so that if you believe in Him Alone, you can escape eternal damnation in Hell. Read I Corinthians chapter 15 verses 1-4. Christ Jesus died to take away the sins of those who believe only in Him and His Words just as the Holy Bible predicted thousands of years before His immaculate conception by the Holy Spirit and a virgin young woman.

while not the same things as post-funeral goodie-bags, repasts are good ways to thank folks for attending the services. some attendees even take flowers -- with permission, of course -- from the funeral arrangement(s). [sigh] and yes, my fam, i haven't forgotten i "owe" you repasts for my parents' services.

In one of my high school classes, a weeklong assignment was to plan our funeral, design our gravestone, plan what we’d take with us to the grave and afterlife, and write our obituaries. A classmate died that year, and at a total loss, his parents asked our teacher if he’d saved those plans (he had). So… my classmate got his ideal funeral. Everyone wore green, as black was not allowed (weird for a goth to not wear black) and it was literally standing room only. This guy had been majorly popular!

@@deboralee1623 never heard of repastas. I should give it a try. A little sugo to the repastas and all participants will go home in joy

Very much in the same vein

It also seems like a substitute for the sacrament of confession, after it was discarded in the wake of Protestantism. And while the poor man was indeed being fed by his richer Protestant neighbors, remember they considered him to be taking on an eternal loss on their behalf. It's sort of like how coal miners lost limbs and got the black lung for maybe a schilling a day. Except much worse, at least culturally.

I learned about them on The Night Gallery. It was dark and gloomy story starring Richard Thomas. Scary but good.

Same here!

Sin eating was just folk religion/superstition, whereas indulgences were an actual Church doctrine.

The potatoes would make sense but we probably can’t blame for the weird jello salads though 😂

I've always wondered if it was Utahan or Utahn.

​​​@@arlenedavis5770Utahn, only one a. Everyone has their own recipe for this too, each better than the next. The average Utah funereal feast is almost always: Ham, funeral potatoes, green salad, green beans, rolls, cakes, cookies, brownies. All served in a chapel's cultural hall, a large multipurpose room in Mormon meeting houses.

Mexico, and maybe Spain, has a bread called Pan dd Muerte. I usually bake a loaf for Halloween 10-31.

My grandma used to make dead man's bones, you've reminded me I haven't had them in years

Filled with marzipan to look like marrow. Love it.

I think they probably just knew that a sweet treat after something like a funeral (where you did not eat beforehand) helps you feel better.

As a "bairn" I love this idea!

Can you share the history? I know when I was in Peru the Chechian (Indegenious) guide taught us to always pour one out for Pacha Mama, their Earth goddess.

We do it in Central Madagascar too, on the North East corner of the house or the tomb.

Sounds like an opportunity for another episode of Drinking History!

In the Philippines, we have the tradition of pouring out the first shot every time a bottle of hard liquor is opened during a drinking session (particularly when it's done outdoors). It's meant to be an offering to any spirits in the area, to keep them happy and prevent misfortune. There's also the folk belief that it throws out any methanol that may have gathered at the top of the bottle.

In a lot of neo pagan traditions, an offering is poured out to the gods and ancestors before the humans take a drink.

I thought of that book too! I was wondering if Max would talk about any history of that tradition in the U.S.

I read it too. There’s also a movie based on it, which I’ve only found on RU-vid.

A wonderful book. Francine Rivers is an excellent author who does her research well! A must-read!

Ghost type of course

And hard tack.

@@ellenjampole1905 TLAC-TLAC!

I think cake pops shaped like skulls would be adorable! They would make people happy, but, like, not too happy for a funeral.

i’m only coming if i get the piranha plant plush

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I will be brought in 15 minutes late after everyone has been sat. I am never on time, except for work.

@@ShellyS2060 "Here comes the corpse, here comes the corpse!"

@@ShellyS2060 I actually heard of a funeral where this happened. An elderly lady was renowned for her tardiness, so it was arranged for her casket not to arrive until partway through the first hymn. Apparently the mourners were in stitches. 😂

My dear father was an amateur actor and loved Broadway. A great guy with a fun sense of humor. I had his service organist play "Let me entertain you" to begin, various show tunes the ended with "Give my regards to Broadway". The giggles began and my mother was mortified. He had a Masonic service as well. When I read about your "Pop goes the Weasel" I broke up because at gravesite..one front pallbearer dropped the coffin.And my first thought was he's gonna pop up !🤣

Haha I was hoping I'd find someone else who played XIV and immediately went "Oh no." Meol was *horrifying.*

looking for this in the comments! I learned about real sin eaters a few months ago and was delighted/horrified.

No less than three people sent me this video because I RP a sin eater.

I'm glad I wasn't the only one who thought of Final Fantasy 14 when I saw the title/I was hoping someone to find someone else mentioning it in the comments 😅Was interesting to learn about the original concept/what they were presumably named after! Even though it isn't quite the same concept (and it definitely feels like it's meant to be ironic/negative in their case), the FF14 ones apparently got their name from being 'seen as agents of divine punishment, sent to devour sin and sinner both' (thanks Urianger), so I guess there is still the general idea of having your sins eaten and therefore being 'forgiven'. (And given what meol is, I guess you could also say that the sins ended up in the bread in a way...)

This was definitely a TIL.

Same!!

They’re so intriguing

Now we know why all those folk were allowed to attend the Queens funeral. We all witnessed those free biscuits.

Mi stupid memelord brain mixed "morbid religious" into morbius and now I cannot unread it.

@@thesexybatman263 IT'S MORBIN' TIME

Heath Ledger starred in a movie about sin eating, called The Order. It was set in modern Italy though. I’d love to see a period horror piece on the subject done by the people who made The Witch.

There was a black and white TV series episode made. I believe the series was called Thriller.

@@azureus3644 Nice idea. Someone who literally absorbed the sins turning into a monster. Perhaps attacking the innocent in some attempt to absorb virtue escaping their curse.

@@patrickmccurry1563 There's already a story on r/nosleep like this. It's really good.

@@patrickmccurry1563 Ooo, maybe like a riff on the Portrait of Dorian Gray, where the person grows more and more monstrous in appearance, except for when they look in a mirror or something ...

Making comments about which sin is in which cake.

@@patrickmccurry1563 Gluttony tastes the best, of course.

very true, especially the children

😂 wouldn’t that be nice. A three course meal of a mortgage, student loans and a Target credit card bill.

Did you come by it in sinful ways then maybe this could still work lol

Surely, it'd be possible to invite someone to dinner and have them sign a contract that says, in small print, "by eating this meal you agree to take on all of the outstanding debts owed by the host."

Dark web, find a cannibal and let them find the person you owe and eat them, therefor eating your debt

What is the tradition behind it?

I'm gonna have an 80s and 90s acid house rave type biscuit. Dove flavoured

Pretty much what we did after my great grandma's funeral. It worked, too. Fried chicken has that effect.

After my grandmas funeral I had a big meal at the pub we held the wake at, got tipsy, and went home to have a nap. It was weird because I lost my appetite and barely ate for months except that day. It definitely helped.

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Be careful with that friend 😳

@@DJDarling you're not wrong. She'll probably go from sin eating to visiting sin upon me

@@qjames0077 brave man 😅😂😂

"Hey babe, are you on death's door? Cause you're looking like a funeral biscuit to me."

Yes! I love that

Very interesting! Thanks.

Norwegian (commercial) ginger ale is properly gingery, but unfortunately also _really_ carbonated, like soft drinks from that brewery (Dahls, which is also the brewery behind the real Julebrus) tend to be.

Thank you! And from a proper historian, that is praise indeed 😁

I would have loved to have been a historian sometimes I wish I stayed on after my History degree.

A high proportion of the colonists that settled in Appalachia are Scots-Irish and some Welsh-that is, from places where sin eating was practiced. However, looking at the book, it is generally categorized as fantasy and horror-fiction, not history, anthropology, or any other category suggestive of accurate representations?

I was thinking, "That's gonna stick to the cat's teeth."

It’s basically the modern version of a gravøl, or grave-ale.

What's the rite of Avril?

@@georgeoldsterd8994 it's in the video at 13:37

Same thing in rural France and it's also practical, I mean people sometimes came/ come from quite a long distance away and you just can't send them away hungry, it would be considered very bad form. Also the close relatives do need a bit of strength in the form of food after a funeral so... A little snack or meal is just what everybody needs.

There is a story that food is a way to affirm life just as making love before the funeral.

There is also a movie with Heath Ledger that was about this topic. It was really good.

That is more modern feminist YA semi-alt-history novel than a remotely accurate representation of real world sin eaters.

@@nevisysbryd7450 Definitely would not say it's a YA novel as there are some pretty mature themes presented in it. Beyond that, I didn't mean to imply that it's historically accurate. Just that it explores ideas in a fictional medium in case people are curious for more content that considers sin eating.

Me too! I love ANYTHING Victorian!

Thanks for the tip, just needs molasses! 👍

Sorry for your loss.

So sorry for your loss.

Sending virtual hugs ❤

If he was murdered it wasn’t really his fault right? Don’t yell at the poor guy lol

I love the funeral luncheon that begins "The Big Chill". Jeff Goldbloom's character describes it very well. "They throw you a big party but you can't come because you're dead "